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 by: Animal - Sat, 23 Apr 2022 20:40 UTC

On Saturday, 23 April 2022 at 16:31:58 UTC+1, Adrian TODD wrote:
> i am in a 1990's built brick and breeze block built house. i have some plaster cracks around the windows, on the walls that seem to come back even after the bathroom was re-plastered about ten years ago.
> I did have a builder come and look and he says it was nothing structural to worry about as the cracking can not be traced outside.
> When i removed plaster for re-decorating in the bedroom i found void areas in the breeze block causing the crack in the plaster. I filled the void with flexible filler in a tube and painted it over . trouble is it has still shrunk afterwards. how do i repair the same thing in the next room I decorate?

Bit short on detail really. Generally speaking, filler shrinks if it's applied too deep in one go, and some shrink a lot, some hardly at all. And if you need a lot, bonding plaster is cheaper.

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 by: ado topp - Sat, 23 Apr 2022 22:32 UTC

Thanks animal, I was planning filling any big gaps in the breeze blocks with cement. Then I could get some bonding plaster as you suggested to go over it when dry. I will probably end up removing about a 4" wide line of the existing plaster following the cracks around the window to make sure I fix any gappage in the breeze blocks like I found in the other bedroom under the plaster.

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 by: Animal - Sun, 24 Apr 2022 22:06 UTC

On Saturday, 23 April 2022 at 23:32:04 UTC+1, ado topp wrote:
> Thanks animal, I was planning filling any big gaps in the breeze blocks with cement. Then I could get some bonding plaster as you suggested to go over it when dry. I will probably end up removing about a 4" wide line of the existing plaster following the cracks around the window to make sure I fix any gappage in the breeze blocks like I found in the other bedroom under the plaster.

Cement/sand is all good.
Whether you need to rip plaster off & fill gaps really depends. If it's the odd small gap & the wall has properly fitted insulation I wouldn't worry. OTOH if it's an old wall with no insulation, open cavity top & dot&dab pb, gaps would be a real problem for heat loss.

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 by: alan_m - Mon, 25 Apr 2022 07:31 UTC

On 23/04/2022 21:40, Animal wrote:
> On Saturday, 23 April 2022 at 16:31:58 UTC+1, Adrian TODD wrote:
>> i am in a 1990's built brick and breeze block built house. i have some plaster cracks around the windows, on the walls that seem to come back even after the bathroom was re-plastered about ten years ago.
>> I did have a builder come and look and he says it was nothing structural to worry about as the cracking can not be traced outside.
>> When i removed plaster for re-decorating in the bedroom i found void areas in the breeze block causing the crack in the plaster. I filled the void with flexible filler in a tube and painted it over . trouble is it has still shrunk afterwards. how do i repair the same thing in the next room I decorate?
>
> Bit short on detail really. Generally speaking, filler shrinks if it's applied too deep in one go, and some shrink a lot, some hardly at all. And if you need a lot, bonding plaster is cheaper.
>

As well as filler shrinking which can be helped by not filling
completely in one go there is also a problem of surrounding brickwork
and plaster sucking moisture from the filler or new plaster causing
hairline cracks around the edges of filled crack/hole. I always first
seal the whole area to be filled with a 50:50 PVA:water mix and let it
dry and often a second coating of the same and let it dry enough to
become very tacky before filling.

I've had variable experiences with tubes and small tubs of pre-mixed
filler and these days a powered filler where you add water is my
preferred option for this type of application.

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