https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61280625

On 30/04/2022 in message <t4j3q4$9qa$1@dont-email.me> Jim Stewart ... wrote:

>https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61280625

He could have just swapped seats with the PM and got a free peek.

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(Margaret Thatcher, speech at the White House 17 December 1979)

On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 11:54:59 AM UTC+1, Jeff Gaines wrote:
> On 30/04/2022 in message <t4j3q4$9qa$1...@dont-email.me> Jim Stewart ... wrote:
>
> >https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61280625
>
> He could have just swapped seats with the PM and got a free peek.
>
> --
> Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
> George Washington was a British subject until well after his 40th birthday.
> (Margaret Thatcher, speech at the White House 17 December 1979)
..............and he caught the clap off a toilet seat ?

Jim Stewart ... <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote

> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61280625

He has now admitted that that was a lie and is resigning.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61284686

In message <xn0nh8cm24d79xf00k@news.individual.net>, Jeff Gaines
<jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>On 30/04/2022 in message <t4j3q4$9qa$1@dont-email.me> Jim Stewart ... wrote:
>
>>https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61280625
>
>He could have just swapped seats with the PM and got a free peek.
>
I have to say that I've never heard so much prudishness and puritanical
tripe as is being spouted in the LBC phone-ins about this particularly
foolish misdemeanour.
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On 30/04/2022 in message <NTQL+FFlCZbiFw69@brattleho.plus.com> Ian Jackson
wrote:

>In message <xn0nh8cm24d79xf00k@news.individual.net>, Jeff Gaines
><jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>>On 30/04/2022 in message <t4j3q4$9qa$1@dont-email.me> Jim Stewart ...
>>wrote:
>>
>>>https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61280625
>>
>>He could have just swapped seats with the PM and got a free peek.
>>
>I have to say that I've never heard so much prudishness and puritanical
>tripe as is being spouted in the LBC phone-ins about this particularly
>foolish misdemeanour.

Some good memes appearing though, did he watch the full tractor video or
just the trailer?

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Tomorrow, isn't looking good either.

On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 21:37:27 +0000, Jeff Gaines wrote:

> On 30/04/2022 in message <NTQL+FFlCZbiFw69@brattleho.plus.com> Ian
> Jackson wrote:
>
>>In message <xn0nh8cm24d79xf00k@news.individual.net>, Jeff Gaines
>><jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>>>On 30/04/2022 in message <t4j3q4$9qa$1@dont-email.me> Jim Stewart ...
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61280625
>>>
>>>He could have just swapped seats with the PM and got a free peek.
>>>
>>I have to say that I've never heard so much prudishness and puritanical
>>tripe as is being spouted in the LBC phone-ins about this particularly
>>foolish misdemeanour.
>
> Some good memes appearing though, did he watch the full tractor video or
> just the trailer?

He was looking for OnlyFarms.

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On 30/04/2022 18:45, Rod Speed wrote:
> Jim Stewart ... <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote
>
>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61280625
>
> He has now admitted that that was a lie and is resigning.
>
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61284686
are all conservatives liars then ?

On 01/05/2022 in message <t4lauv$822$1@dont-email.me> Jim Stewart ... wrote:

>On 30/04/2022 18:45, Rod Speed wrote:
>>Jim Stewart ... <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote
>>
>>>https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61280625
>>
>>He has now admitted that that was a lie and is resigning.
>>
>>https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61284686
>are all conservatives liars then ?

Perhaps all politicians? Starmer and Rayner are up there at the top of the
tree.

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On 01/05/2022 08:33, Jeff Gaines wrote:
> On 01/05/2022 in message <t4lauv$822$1@dont-email.me> Jim Stewart ...
> wrote:
>
>> On 30/04/2022 18:45, Rod Speed wrote:
>>> Jim Stewart ... <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote
>>>
>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61280625
>>>
>>> He has now admitted that that was a lie and is resigning.
>>>
>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61284686
>> are all conservatives liars then ?
>
> Perhaps all politicians? Starmer and Rayner are up there at the top of
> the tree.

Everyone lies at some point.

Jim Stewart ... <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Jim Stewart ... <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote

>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61280625

>> He has now admitted that that was a lie and is resigning.
>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61284686

> are all conservatives liars then ?

All pollys are liars.

In spades when caught doing something like that,

I'm looking at setting up a battery of 10 rental garages on a vacant site. The site has a solid stone wall perimeter with a single gateway.
Problem it's 100 miles away and I want to find a system for controlled access and remote management. I looked at ANPR but that was too expensive.

The second thought was a token/fob system to control a rising barrier to the site. This would need to accept 10 different fobs. Key fobs would be issued against a deposit and be reprogrammable by me at the end of each lease. Security for each individual would be by secure garage lock with padlock key provided against a deposit.

Is there a cost effective way of achieving this or is there a better way?

On Sun, 01 May 2022 17:42:55 +1000, Richard
<smithski@btinternet.com.invalid> wrote:

> On 01/05/2022 08:33, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>> On 01/05/2022 in message <t4lauv$822$1@dont-email.me> Jim Stewart ...
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 30/04/2022 18:45, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> Jim Stewart ... <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61280625
>>>>
>>>> He has now admitted that that was a lie and is resigning.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61284686
>>> are all conservatives liars then ?
>> Perhaps all politicians? Starmer and Rayner are up there at the top of
>> the tree.
>
> Everyone lies at some point.

But only con men, lawyers and psychopaths lie all the time like pollys do.

On Sunday, 1 May 2022 at 09:48:40 UTC+1, Bazza wrote:
> The second thought was a token/fob system to control a rising barrier to the site. This would need to accept 10 different fobs. Key fobs would be issued against a deposit and be reprogrammable by me at the end of each lease..

Fairly standard door entry / access control system linked to a barrier. Many can have fobs added/deleted remotely through a GSM data or SMS link. Having a remote audio/video entry facility could be useful for customers, or passers-by who want to contact 'security'.

https://www.videxuk.com/system/gsm-intercoms/

is the sort of thing, but an access control business would be able to sort this out.

Owain

On 01/05/2022 09:48, Bazza wrote:
> I'm looking at setting up a battery of 10 rental garages on a vacant site. The site has a solid stone wall perimeter with a single gateway.
> Problem it's 100 miles away and I want to find a system for controlled access and remote management. I looked at ANPR but that was too expensive.
>
> The second thought was a token/fob system to control a rising barrier to the site. This would need to accept 10 different fobs. Key fobs would be issued against a deposit and be reprogrammable by me at the end of each lease. Security for each individual would be by secure garage lock with padlock key provided against a deposit.
>
> Is there a cost effective way of achieving this or is there a better way?

A raising barrier will only stop access to those who are already law
abiding. The criminal fraternity would just trash it to gain entry.
CCTV in operation signs would be just as effective.

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On 01/05/2022 11:21, Owain Lastname wrote:
> On Sunday, 1 May 2022 at 09:48:40 UTC+1, Bazza wrote:
>> The second thought was a token/fob system to control a rising barrier to the site. This would need to accept 10 different fobs. Key fobs would be issued against a deposit and be reprogrammable by me at the end of each lease.
>
> Fairly standard door entry / access control system linked to a barrier. Many can have fobs added/deleted remotely through a GSM data or SMS link. Having a remote audio/video entry facility could be useful for customers, or passers-by who want to contact 'security'.
>
> https://www.videxuk.com/system/gsm-intercoms/
>
> is the sort of thing, but an access control business would be able to sort this out.
>
> Owain
>
>
>

That kind of system was used when friends were renting a storage
container on a secure site. To gain one off access they had to phone up
to get a code which was then keyed in at the entrance. That code was
only valid for the day they stated that they wanted access.

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On 01/05/2022 09:51, Jock wrote:
> On Sun, 01 May 2022 17:42:55 +1000, Richard
> <smithski@btinternet.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 01/05/2022 08:33, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>>> On 01/05/2022 in message <t4lauv$822$1@dont-email.me> Jim Stewart ...
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 30/04/2022 18:45, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>> Jim Stewart ... <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61280625
>>>>>
>>>>> He has now admitted that that was a lie and is resigning.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61284686
>>>> are all conservatives liars then ?
>>>  Perhaps all politicians? Starmer and Rayner are up there at the top
>>> of the tree.
>>
>> Everyone lies at some point.
>
> But only con men, lawyers and psychopaths lie all the time like pollys do.

So, rod, which one of those is your profession?
No need to answer, as it will be a lie.

On Sun, 01 May 2022 01:48:38 -0700, Bazza wrote:

> I'm looking at setting up a battery of 10 rental garages on a vacant
> site. The site has a solid stone wall perimeter with a single gateway.
> Problem it's 100 miles away and I want to find a system for controlled
> access and remote management. I looked at ANPR but that was too
> expensive.
>
> The second thought was a token/fob system to control a rising barrier to
> the site. This would need to accept 10 different fobs. Key fobs would
> be issued against a deposit and be reprogrammable by me at the end of
> each lease. Security for each individual would be by secure garage lock
> with padlock key provided against a deposit.
>
> Is there a cost effective way of achieving this or is there a better
> way?

My last employer had an app-controlled system that registered mobile
numbers. A registered number called a mobile and the gate opened. An
unregistered number got a network error.

Messing around with fobs is - as I pointed out to the disgust of my lads
letting agent - so 1990s.

Jethro_uk wrote:

> Messing around with fobs is - as I pointed out to the disgust of my lads
> letting agent - so 1990s.

fobs don't have batteries which can go flat.

fobs don't rely on mobile signal.

(barring cloning) a fob shows it is actually at the gate, not getting someone
else to remotely phone-in.

In message <xn0nh8tkc505lgw00n@news.individual.net>, Jeff Gaines
<jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>On 30/04/2022 in message <NTQL+FFlCZbiFw69@brattleho.plus.com> Ian
>Jackson wrote:
>
>>In message <xn0nh8cm24d79xf00k@news.individual.net>, Jeff Gaines
>><jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>>>On 30/04/2022 in message <t4j3q4$9qa$1@dont-email.me> Jim Stewart ...
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61280625
>>>
>>>He could have just swapped seats with the PM and got a free peek.
>>>
>>I have to say that I've never heard so much prudishness and
>>puritanical tripe as is being spouted in the LBC phone-ins about this
>>particularly foolish misdemeanour.
>
>Some good memes appearing though, did he watch the full tractor video
>or just the trailer?
>
I have to confess that that took several seconds to sink in!

Many of the phone-in condemnations of Mr Parish seemed to be because he
was 'at work', and instead of wasting time he should have been
concentrating on doing his job as an MP. I therefore ask myself whether
he would have attracted the same degree of criticism if NO porn had been
involved, and he really HAD been looking only at tractors? What was the
real offence? Was it watching porn, or was it simply not doing the job
the taxpayers were paying him to do?
--
Ian

On 01/05/2022 08:33, Jeff Gaines wrote:
> On 01/05/2022 in message <t4lauv$822$1@dont-email.me> Jim Stewart ...
> wrote:
>
>> On 30/04/2022 18:45, Rod Speed wrote:
>>> Jim Stewart ... <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote
>>>
>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61280625
>>>
>>> He has now admitted that that was a lie and is resigning.
>>>
>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61284686
>> are all conservatives liars then ?
>
> Perhaps all politicians? Starmer and Rayner are up there at the top of
> the tree.
>

And definitely every local canvasser for the Limp Dems need
including in that group.

On 01/05/2022 09:48, Bazza wrote:
> I'm looking at setting up a battery of 10 rental garages on a vacant site. The site has a solid stone wall perimeter with a single gateway.
> Problem it's 100 miles away and I want to find a system for controlled access and remote management. I looked at ANPR but that was too expensive.
>
> The second thought was a token/fob system to control a rising barrier to the site. This would need to accept 10 different fobs. Key fobs would be issued against a deposit and be reprogrammable by me at the end of each lease. Security for each individual would be by secure garage lock with padlock key provided against a deposit.
>
> Is there a cost effective way of achieving this or is there a better way?

One issue with a barrier is what plans you have for when the barrier
fails to open - especially when it fails to open to let people out.
Firms like NCP have staff available to attend such cases and IIRC aim to
let people out within an hour.

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On 01/05/2022 14:23, Robin wrote:
> On 01/05/2022 09:48, Bazza wrote:
>> I'm looking at setting up a battery of 10 rental garages on a vacant
>> site. The site has a solid stone wall perimeter with a single gateway.
>> Problem it's 100 miles away and I want to find a system for controlled
>> access and remote management. I looked at ANPR but that was too
>> expensive.
>>
>> The second thought was a token/fob system to control a rising barrier
>> to the site.  This  would need to accept 10 different fobs. Key fobs
>> would be issued against a deposit and be reprogrammable by me at the
>> end of each lease. Security for each individual would be by secure
>> garage lock with padlock key provided against a deposit.
>>
>> Is there a cost effective way of achieving this or is there a better way?
>
> One issue with a barrier is what plans you have for when the barrier
> fails to open - especially when it fails to open to let people out.
> Firms like NCP have staff available to attend such cases and IIRC aim to
> let people out within an hour.
>

Most barriers are not that substantial, often for safety reasons for
when they close on a pedestrian, biker or even a (open top) car.

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In article <Tx2sW8I8CobiFwqm@brattleho.plus.com>,
Ian Jackson <ianREMOVETHISjackson@g3ohx.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <xn0nh8tkc505lgw00n@news.individual.net>, Jeff Gaines
> <jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk> writes
> >On 30/04/2022 in message <NTQL+FFlCZbiFw69@brattleho.plus.com> Ian
> >Jackson wrote:
> >
> >>In message <xn0nh8cm24d79xf00k@news.individual.net>, Jeff Gaines
> >><jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk> writes
> >>>On 30/04/2022 in message <t4j3q4$9qa$1@dont-email.me> Jim Stewart ...
> >>>wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61280625
> >>>
> >>>He could have just swapped seats with the PM and got a free peek.
> >>>
> >>I have to say that I've never heard so much prudishness and
> >>puritanical tripe as is being spouted in the LBC phone-ins about this
> >>particularly foolish misdemeanour.
> >
> >Some good memes appearing though, did he watch the full tractor video
> >or just the trailer?
> >
> I have to confess that that took several seconds to sink in!

> Many of the phone-in condemnations of Mr Parish seemed to be because he
> was 'at work', and instead of wasting time he should have been
> concentrating on doing his job as an MP. I therefore ask myself whether
> he would have attracted the same degree of criticism if NO porn had been
> involved, and he really HAD been looking only at tractors? What was the
> real offence? Was it watching porn, or was it simply not doing the job
> the taxpayers were paying him to do?

Suppose you are on a jury. Doing what many would consider important work.
Would it be OK to be using your phone while in session? Same with an MP.
He could quite easily left the chamber to use his phone. But like so many
MPs displays zero common sense.

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On 01/05/2022 02:17 pm, Andrew wrote:

> On 01/05/2022 08:33, Jeff Gaines wrote:
>> Jim Stewart ... wrote:
>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> Jim Stewart ... <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote
>
>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61280625
>
>>>> He has now admitted that that was a lie and is resigning.
>
>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61284686
>>> are all conservatives liars then ?
>
>> Perhaps all politicians? Starmer and Rayner are up there at the top of
>> the tree.
>
> And definitely every local canvasser for the Limp Dems need
> including in that group.

Some years ago now, a LibDem canvasser told me and my next door
neighbour completely different and irreconcilable things about their
plans for taxation. One of us was nominally for an income tax reduction,
the other for an increase. He agreed with both of us.

They haven't canvassed here for many years now. I assume they don't have
the foot soldiers (except maybe for a by-election, when they can bus in
volunteers from every corner of the UK).