On 29/04/2022 03:33, williamwright wrote:
> On 28/04/2022 21:59, Vir Campestris wrote:
>> On 26/04/2022 17:51, ARW wrote:
>>> He also must pretend not to hear us when we ask him to take his hands
>>> out his pockets.
>>
>> I've never understood why having your hands in your pockets is a
>> problem. Perhaps you could explain?
>
> It's slovenly.
>

Makes them look uninterested in what you are supposed to be teaching them.

On 29/04/2022 14:32, Andrew wrote:
>> No that isn't special knowledge. Cleaning up happens in all walks of
>> life and occupations.
>>
>
> But is an alien concept to most boys still living at home

It isn't like that nowadays you know.

Bill

ARW <adamwadsworth@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote
> williamwright wrote
>> Vir Campestris wrote
>>> ARW wrote

>>>> He also must pretend not to hear us when we ask him to take his hands
>>>> out his pockets.
>
>>> I've never understood why having your hands in your pockets is a
>>> problem. Perhaps you could explain?

>> It's slovenly.

> Makes them look uninterested in what you are supposed to be teaching
> them.

That's mad. I often have my hands in my pockets at garage sales
in winter and I am certainly interested in what is being sold.

williamwright <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote
> Andrew wrote

>>> No that isn't special knowledge. Cleaning up happens in all walks of
>>> life and occupations.

>> But is an alien concept to most boys still living at home

> It isn't like that nowadays you know.

The most most of them would have done is wash their car if
they have one or their parents' cars.

Our primary schools do have very occasional fund raising
events where the kids wash the cars of anyone who wants
to have their car washed but even that isn't done every year.

On 29/04/2022 19:40, Rod Speed wrote:
> ARW <adamwadsworth@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote
>> williamwright wrote
>>> Vir Campestris wrote
>>>> ARW wrote
>
>>>>> He also must pretend not to hear us when we ask him to take his
>>>>> hands out his pockets.
>>
>>>> I've never understood why having your hands in your pockets is a
>>>> problem. Perhaps you could explain?
>
>>>  It's slovenly.
>
>> Makes them look uninterested in what you are supposed to be teaching
>> them.
>
> That's mad. I often have my hands in my pockets at garage sales
> in winter and I am certainly interested in what is being sold.

The apprentice is not at garage sale in the middle of winter.

ARW <adamwadsworth@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> ARW <adamwadsworth@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote
>>> williamwright wrote
>>>> Vir Campestris wrote
>>>>> ARW wrote

>>>>>> He also must pretend not to hear us when we ask him to take his
>>>>>> hands out his pockets.

>>>>> I've never understood why having your hands in your pockets is a
>>>>> problem. Perhaps you could explain?

>>>> It's slovenly.

>>> Makes them look uninterested in what you are supposed to be teaching
>>> them.

>> That's mad. I often have my hands in my pockets at garage sales
>> in winter and I am certainly interested in what is being sold.
>
> The apprentice is not at garage sale in the middle of winter.

Irrelevant to whether he is interested when he has his hands in his
pockets.

On 29/04/2022 03:33, williamwright wrote:
> On 28/04/2022 21:59, Vir Campestris wrote:
>> On 26/04/2022 17:51, ARW wrote:
>>> He also must pretend not to hear us when we ask him to take his hands
>>> out his pockets.
>>
>> I've never understood why having your hands in your pockets is a
>> problem. Perhaps you could explain?
>
> It's slovenly.
>
That's what the army say. I'm still not convinced.

Give him some bulky safety gloves, that'll stop him (and keep his hands
warm!)

Andy

On 27/04/2022 18:48, ARW wrote:
> On 25/04/2022 20:42, Jock wrote:
>
>>
>> Adam has only ever had one or two who had much of a clue or intelligence.
>
> The hands in his pockets useless 16 year old has gone. Failed a drugs test.

Now that _is_ a good reason for getting rid of him!

Andy

On 29/04/2022 14:52, Andrew wrote:
> After watching last nights BBC2 program about repairing Notre Dame
> in Paris, I have come to the conclusion that the French have a
> relaxed attitude to working in an environment massively contaminated
> with lead dust.
>
> The cleaners removing the first and obvious layers of dust were properly
> suited-up but the ladies looking at the damage to the stained glass
> (where there must still have been plenty of dust) didn't seem too
> bothered.

Well worth watching - I just got around to it.

The cleaners were disturbing the dust where it was in thick layers. I
doubt there was much on the windows, and they weren't stirring it up.

It occurred to me watching that on the day after I retired that I'll
likely outlive every single bit of software I ever wrote.

Those guys are doing things that may last a thousand years.

Andy

On 29/04/2022 21:51, Vir Campestris wrote:
> On 27/04/2022 18:48, ARW wrote:
>> On 25/04/2022 20:42, Jock wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Adam has only ever had one or two who had much of a clue or
>>> intelligence.
>>
>> The hands in his pockets useless 16 year old has gone. Failed a drugs
>> test.
>
> Now that _is_ a good reason for getting rid of him!
>

A good un would not have been fired.

In article <t4hj04$68a$1@dont-email.me>,
Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 29/04/2022 03:33, williamwright wrote:
> > On 28/04/2022 21:59, Vir Campestris wrote:
> >> On 26/04/2022 17:51, ARW wrote:
> >>> He also must pretend not to hear us when we ask him to take his hands
> >>> out his pockets.
> >>
> >> I've never understood why having your hands in your pockets is a
> >> problem. Perhaps you could explain?
> >
> > It's slovenly.
> >
> That's what the army say. I'm still not convinced.

t's to stop him playing 'pocket biliards'

> Give him some bulky safety gloves, that'll stop him (and keep his hands
> warm!)

> Andy

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 19:02:25 +1000, charles <charles@candehope.me.uk>
wrote:

> In article <t4hj04$68a$1@dont-email.me>,
> Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 29/04/2022 03:33, williamwright wrote:
>> > On 28/04/2022 21:59, Vir Campestris wrote:
>> >> On 26/04/2022 17:51, ARW wrote:
>> >>> He also must pretend not to hear us when we ask him to take his
>> hands
>> >>> out his pockets.
>> >>
>> >> I've never understood why having your hands in your pockets is a
>> >> problem. Perhaps you could explain?
>> >
>> > It's slovenly.
>> >
>> That's what the army say. I'm still not convinced.
>
> t's to stop him playing 'pocket biliards'

Yeah, much better to have him fucking the customers, like Adam.

On 30/04/2022 10:02, charles wrote:
> In article <t4hj04$68a$1@dont-email.me>,
> Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 29/04/2022 03:33, williamwright wrote:
>>> On 28/04/2022 21:59, Vir Campestris wrote:
>>>> On 26/04/2022 17:51, ARW wrote:
>>>>> He also must pretend not to hear us when we ask him to take his hands
>>>>> out his pockets.
>>>>
>>>> I've never understood why having your hands in your pockets is a
>>>> problem. Perhaps you could explain?
>>>
>>> It's slovenly.
>>>
>> That's what the army say. I'm still not convinced.
>
> t's to stop him playing 'pocket biliards'

Saying that to the apprentice would have been an effective way of
keeping his hands out of his pockets!

On 29 Apr 2022 at 15:26:55 BST, Jock <kdj@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 19:34:11 +1000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 29/04/2022 10:26, Jock wrote:
>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 19:04:33 +1000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 29/04/2022 04:57, Jock wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 12:35:10 +1000, williamwright
>>>>> <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 26/04/2022 10:51, Jock wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> You lose every argument because you resort to abuse.
>>>>> Corse you never ever resort to abuse yourself, eh ?
>>>>> Usenet is never about winning or losing.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone reading it will dismiss what you say.
>>>>> More of your mindless bullshit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Using such words demonstrates your limited vocabulary
>>> More of your mindless bullshit. The use of the word bullshit
>>> exibits a wider vocabularly than just saying "you are wrong"
>>> or "I disagree"
>
>> When you can't explain why anyone one is wrong is down to ignorance
>
> More of your mindless bullshit. I ALWAYS include the explanation
> fuckwit.

Saying "fuckwit" desn't explain anything.

--
If your experiment needs statistics, you ought to have done a better experiment.

Ernest Rutherford

Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote
> On 30/04/2022 10:02, charles wrote:
>> In article <t4hj04$68a$1@dont-email.me>,
>> Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 29/04/2022 03:33, williamwright wrote:
>>>> On 28/04/2022 21:59, Vir Campestris wrote:
>>>>> On 26/04/2022 17:51, ARW wrote:
>>>>>> He also must pretend not to hear us when we ask him to take his
>>>>>> hands
>>>>>> out his pockets.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've never understood why having your hands in your pockets is a
>>>>> problem. Perhaps you could explain?
>>>>
>>>> It's slovenly.
>>>>
>>> That's what the army say. I'm still not convinced.
>> t's to stop him playing 'pocket biliards'
>
> Saying that to the apprentice would have been an effective way of
> keeping his hands out of his pockets!

Depends on the apprentice, some would realise you are just a silly old
fart.

On Sun, 01 May 2022 00:11:44 +1000, Tim Streater
<timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:

> On 29 Apr 2022 at 15:26:55 BST, Jock <kdj@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 19:34:11 +1000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 29/04/2022 10:26, Jock wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 19:04:33 +1000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 29/04/2022 04:57, Jock wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 12:35:10 +1000, williamwright
>>>>>> <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 26/04/2022 10:51, Jock wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You lose every argument because you resort to abuse.
>>>>>> Corse you never ever resort to abuse yourself, eh ?
>>>>>> Usenet is never about winning or losing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyone reading it will dismiss what you say.
>>>>>> More of your mindless bullshit.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Using such words demonstrates your limited vocabulary
>>>> More of your mindless bullshit. The use of the word bullshit
>>>> exibits a wider vocabularly than just saying "you are wrong"
>>>> or "I disagree"
>>
>>> When you can't explain why anyone one is wrong is down to ignorance
>>
>> More of your mindless bullshit. I ALWAYS include the explanation
>> fuckwit.
>
> Saying "fuckwit" desn't explain anything.

But the sentence does, fuckwit.

On 30 Apr 2022 at 19:12:16 BST, Jock <kdj@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 01 May 2022 00:11:44 +1000, Tim Streater
> <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>
>> On 29 Apr 2022 at 15:26:55 BST, Jock <kdj@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 19:34:11 +1000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 29/04/2022 10:26, Jock wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 19:04:33 +1000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 29/04/2022 04:57, Jock wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 12:35:10 +1000, williamwright
>>>>>>> <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 26/04/2022 10:51, Jock wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You lose every argument because you resort to abuse.
>>>>>>> Corse you never ever resort to abuse yourself, eh ?
>>>>>>> Usenet is never about winning or losing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyone reading it will dismiss what you say.
>>>>>>> More of your mindless bullshit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Using such words demonstrates your limited vocabulary
>>>>> More of your mindless bullshit. The use of the word bullshit
>>>>> exibits a wider vocabularly than just saying "you are wrong"
>>>>> or "I disagree"
>>>
>>>> When you can't explain why anyone one is wrong is down to ignorance
>>>
>>> More of your mindless bullshit. I ALWAYS include the explanation
>>> fuckwit.
>>
>> Saying "fuckwit" desn't explain anything.
>
> But the sentence does, fuckwit.

No it doesn't, Woddles. Now piss off.

--
All of science is either physics or stamp-collecting.

Ernest Rutherford

On Sun, 01 May 2022 05:51:25 +1000, Tim Streater
<timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:

> On 30 Apr 2022 at 19:12:16 BST, Jock <kdj@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 01 May 2022 00:11:44 +1000, Tim Streater
>> <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 29 Apr 2022 at 15:26:55 BST, Jock <kdj@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 19:34:11 +1000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 29/04/2022 10:26, Jock wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 19:04:33 +1000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 29/04/2022 04:57, Jock wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 12:35:10 +1000, williamwright
>>>>>>>> <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 26/04/2022 10:51, Jock wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You lose every argument because you resort to abuse.
>>>>>>>> Corse you never ever resort to abuse yourself, eh ?
>>>>>>>> Usenet is never about winning or losing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyone reading it will dismiss what you say.
>>>>>>>> More of your mindless bullshit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Using such words demonstrates your limited vocabulary
>>>>>> More of your mindless bullshit. The use of the word bullshit
>>>>>> exibits a wider vocabularly than just saying "you are wrong"
>>>>>> or "I disagree"
>>>>
>>>>> When you can't explain why anyone one is wrong is down to ignorance
>>>>
>>>> More of your mindless bullshit. I ALWAYS include the explanation
>>>> fuckwit.
>>>
>>> Saying "fuckwit" desn't explain anything.
>>
>> But the sentence does, fuckwit.
>
> No it doesn't

You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.

> Now piss off.

Go and fuck yourself, again,