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Subject: Asbestos garage removal
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 by: Bazza - Wed, 4 May 2022 20:12 UTC

From what I have found, there are different types of asbestos each with its own risk but when used in asbestos cement panels and corrugated roof panels, the risk is much lower and hopefully somewhat lower.

I have some 1950's asbestos garages that need removal. See this image https://imgur.com/HKZpFqn

Are these the high risk type and what could I expect to pay for removal of one measuring 3m x 5m?

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 by: Tricky Dicky - Wed, 4 May 2022 20:31 UTC

On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 9:12:31 PM UTC+1, Bazza wrote:
> From what I have found, there are different types of asbestos each with its own risk but when used in asbestos cement panels and corrugated roof panels, the risk is much lower and hopefully somewhat lower.
>
> I have some 1950's asbestos garages that need removal. See this image https://imgur.com/HKZpFqn
>
> Are these the high risk type and what could I expect to pay for removal of one measuring 3m x 5m?

The roof panels look cement/asbestos so would involve little risk, our LA accept these free as long as they are double wrapped and sealed in Visqueen. The side panels look suspiciously like pure asbestos so a high risk and your LA may not accept them as such,

Richard

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 by: Chris Hogg - Thu, 5 May 2022 06:13 UTC

On Wed, 4 May 2022 13:31:24 -0700 (PDT), Tricky Dicky
<tricky.dicky@sky.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 9:12:31 PM UTC+1, Bazza wrote:
>> From what I have found, there are different types of asbestos each with its own risk but when used in asbestos cement panels and corrugated roof panels, the risk is much lower and hopefully somewhat lower.
>>
>> I have some 1950's asbestos garages that need removal. See this image https://imgur.com/HKZpFqn
>>
>> Are these the high risk type and what could I expect to pay for removal of one measuring 3m x 5m?
>
>The roof panels look cement/asbestos so would involve little risk, our LA accept these free as long as they are double wrapped and sealed in Visqueen. The side panels look suspiciously like pure asbestos so a high risk and your LA may not accept them as such,
>
>Richard

OOI, what do you mean by 'pure asbestos'? Surely the fibres have to be
bonded with something, and if not cement, what?

--
Chris

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 by: Colin Bignell - Fri, 6 May 2022 09:41 UTC

On 05/05/2022 07:13, Chris Hogg wrote:
> On Wed, 4 May 2022 13:31:24 -0700 (PDT), Tricky Dicky
> <tricky.dicky@sky.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 9:12:31 PM UTC+1, Bazza wrote:
>>> From what I have found, there are different types of asbestos each with its own risk but when used in asbestos cement panels and corrugated roof panels, the risk is much lower and hopefully somewhat lower.
>>>
>>> I have some 1950's asbestos garages that need removal. See this image https://imgur.com/HKZpFqn
>>>
>>> Are these the high risk type and what could I expect to pay for removal of one measuring 3m x 5m?
>>
>> The roof panels look cement/asbestos so would involve little risk, our LA accept these free as long as they are double wrapped and sealed in Visqueen. The side panels look suspiciously like pure asbestos so a high risk and your LA may not accept them as such,
>>
>> Richard
>
> OOI, what do you mean by 'pure asbestos'?

You used to be able to buy pressed asbestos sheet, but I doubt the walls
of a garage would be made from that. Probably a different variant of the
asbestos cement used on the roof.

Surely the fibres have to be
> bonded with something, and if not cement, what?

The cement is not there to bind the asbestos. The asbestos is there to
reinforce the concrete, to allow it to be made thinner. Today it would
be called fibre reinforced concrete.

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 by: Tricky Dicky - Fri, 6 May 2022 13:28 UTC

On Friday, May 6, 2022 at 10:41:14 AM UTC+1, Colin Bignell wrote:
> On 05/05/2022 07:13, Chris Hogg wrote:
> > On Wed, 4 May 2022 13:31:24 -0700 (PDT), Tricky Dicky
> > <tricky...@sky.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 9:12:31 PM UTC+1, Bazza wrote:
> >>> From what I have found, there are different types of asbestos each with its own risk but when used in asbestos cement panels and corrugated roof panels, the risk is much lower and hopefully somewhat lower.
> >>>
> >>> I have some 1950's asbestos garages that need removal. See this image https://imgur.com/HKZpFqn
> >>>
> >>> Are these the high risk type and what could I expect to pay for removal of one measuring 3m x 5m?
> >>
> >> The roof panels look cement/asbestos so would involve little risk, our LA accept these free as long as they are double wrapped and sealed in Visqueen. The side panels look suspiciously like pure asbestos so a high risk and your LA may not accept them as such,
> >>
> >> Richard
> >
> > OOI, what do you mean by 'pure asbestos'?
>
> You used to be able to buy pressed asbestos sheet, but I doubt the walls
> of a garage would be made from that. Probably a different variant of the
> asbestos cement used on the roof.
>
> Surely the fibres have to be
> > bonded with something, and if not cement, what?
>
> The cement is not there to bind the asbestos. The asbestos is there to
> reinforce the concrete, to allow it to be made thinner. Today it would
> be called fibre reinforced concrete.
>
>
> --
> Colin Bignell

When we were buying our present property we showed an interest in one that had a very similar garage from the 50”s whose roof was definitely corrugated cement/asbestos however the panels looked very similar to the OPs example being much whiter compared to the grey of the roof. Importantly the side panels seemed a lot softer then the roof, many of which were broken and the breaks had a very wafer like break in them. I have seen pure asbestos panels but mainly used inside buildings these looked similar. They may have been bonded with something but it was not cement and to the untrained eye looked more asbestos than anything else.

Richard

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 by: Andrew - Fri, 6 May 2022 14:32 UTC

On 06/05/2022 10:41, Colin Bignell wrote:

> The cement is not there to bind the asbestos. The asbestos is there to
> reinforce the concrete, to allow it to be made thinner. Today it would
> be called fibre reinforced concrete.
>
>

It was the miracle modern replacement for horse hair in render and
plaster. Oops.

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