With a full refund heading toward my account, I suggested avoiding the
*clamshell* type for any replacement.

Sadly, my grandchildren and their caterer seem determined to try again.
Anyone have any experience with these things?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/KAPPLICO%C2%AE-Ambassador-Pizza-Oven-Maker/dp/B0
9KSYG4DB/ref=zg_bs_3538359031_3/260-5083621-6600222?pd_rd_i=B09KSYG4DB&ps
c=1

The failure point is where single core flexible cables are used to link
the top element across the hinge.

Alternatively, if I had some suitable wire, I could repair the original
unit!
--
Tim Lamb

Tim Lamb <tim@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Sadly, my grandchildren and their caterer seem determined to try again.
> Anyone have any experience with these things?

No experience, but possible many of them are made in the same (Chinese)
factory - the designs look similar, they're all brands you've never heard
of...

> The failure point is where single core flexible cables are used to link
> the top element across the hinge.
>
> Alternatively, if I had some suitable wire, I could repair the original
> unit!

You know you want to!

Any constraints on the wire? Could you fit say braided clothes iron flex in
there?

Theo

In message <aKk*eJpNy@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, Theo
<theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes
>Tim Lamb <tim@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> Sadly, my grandchildren and their caterer seem determined to try again.
>> Anyone have any experience with these things?
>
>No experience, but possible many of them are made in the same (Chinese)
>factory - the designs look similar, they're all brands you've never heard
>of...
>
>> The failure point is where single core flexible cables are used to link
>> the top element across the hinge.
>>
>> Alternatively, if I had some suitable wire, I could repair the original
>> unit!
>
>You know you want to!

Indeed !
>
>Any constraints on the wire? Could you fit say braided clothes iron flex in
>there?

Bear in mind these connections are coupled to two heating elements with
little air movement. Outside the Aerospace industry, can you get single
core 10 amp super flexible insulated for UK supply voltage wire rated
for a few hundred deg. C?

The originals were possibly covered in braided glass fibre.

>
>Theo

--
Tim Lamb

Tim Lamb <tim@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Bear in mind these connections are coupled to two heating elements with
> little air movement. Outside the Aerospace industry, can you get single
> core 10 amp super flexible insulated for UK supply voltage wire rated
> for a few hundred deg. C?
>
> The originals were possibly covered in braided glass fibre.

It turns out you can, although you might have to wait a few weeks for
backorder:
https://uk.farnell.com/w/c/cable-wire-cable-assemblies/hook-up-wire?operating-temperature-max=450degc|700degc&range=exc-delivery-surcharge

and if you feel like chancing ebay's finest (only 200C):
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222422744662

Theo

In message <aKk*avqNy@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, Theo
<theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes
>Tim Lamb <tim@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> Bear in mind these connections are coupled to two heating elements with
>> little air movement. Outside the Aerospace industry, can you get single
>> core 10 amp super flexible insulated for UK supply voltage wire rated
>> for a few hundred deg. C?
>>
>> The originals were possibly covered in braided glass fibre.
>
>It turns out you can, although you might have to wait a few weeks for
>backorder:
>https://uk.farnell.com/w/c/cable-wire-cable-assemblies/hook-up-wire?oper
>ating-temperature-max=450degc|700degc&range=exc-delivery-surcharge
>
>and if you feel like chancing ebay's finest (only 200C):
>https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222422744662

Hmm. Affordable. Looks very similar to the original wire. I don't
understand the Farnell std refs.

I found a pull out drawer type 12" pizza cooker for less money than a
new clamshell.

--
Tim Lamb

On 05/05/2022 20:14, Tim Lamb wrote:
> In message <aKk*avqNy@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, Theo
> <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes
>> Tim Lamb <tim@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Bear in mind these connections are coupled to two heating elements with
>>> little air movement. Outside the Aerospace industry, can you get single
>>> core 10 amp super flexible insulated for UK supply voltage wire rated
>>> for a few hundred deg. C?
>>>
>>> The originals were possibly covered in braided glass fibre.
>>
>> It turns out you can, although you might have to wait a few weeks for
>> backorder:
>> https://uk.farnell.com/w/c/cable-wire-cable-assemblies/hook-up-wire?oper
>> ating-temperature-max=450degc|700degc&range=exc-delivery-surcharge
>>
>> and if you feel like chancing ebay's finest (only 200C):
>> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222422744662
>
> Hmm. Affordable. Looks very similar to the original wire. I don't
> understand the Farnell std refs.
>
> I found a pull out drawer type 12" pizza cooker for less money than a
> new clamshell.
>
https://www.heatsensecables.co.uk/media/1627/glass-type-240v-700c-nickel.pdf

In message <tfkmmk$1toob$1@dont-email.me>, ARW
<adamwadsworth@blueyonder.co.uk> writes
>On 05/05/2022 20:14, Tim Lamb wrote:
>> In message <aKk*avqNy@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, Theo
>><theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes
>>> Tim Lamb <tim@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> Bear in mind these connections are coupled to two heating elements with
>>>> little air movement. Outside the Aerospace industry, can you get single
>>>> core 10 amp super flexible insulated for UK supply voltage wire rated
>>>> for a few hundred deg. C?
>>>>
>>>> The originals were possibly covered in braided glass fibre.
>>>
>>> It turns out you can, although you might have to wait a few weeks for
>>> backorder:
>>> https://uk.farnell.com/w/c/cable-wire-cable-assemblies/hook-up-wire?oper
>>> ating-temperature-max=450degc|700degc&range=exc-delivery-surcharge
>>>
>>> and if you feel like chancing ebay's finest (only 200C):
>>> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222422744662
>> Hmm. Affordable. Looks very similar to the original wire. I don't
>>understand the Farnell std refs.
>> I found a pull out drawer type 12" pizza cooker for less money than
>>a new clamshell.
>>
>https://www.heatsensecables.co.uk/media/1627/glass-type-240v-700c-nickel
>.pdf

Time warp?

Curiously this has just re-surfaced. They have moved house and asked for
comments on this..

https://uk.ooni.com/products/ooni-koda

So how much is 1m of 1.5mm?? I still have the original cooker in the
*jobs for tomorrow* box.
>

--
Tim Lamb