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* Woman's alleged search history exposed in courtMax
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From: max...@val.morgan (Max)
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 by: Max - Wed, 31 Mar 2021 07:13 UTC

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/courts-law/natasha-darcy-googled-how-to-commit-murder-in-months-before-she-allegedly-murdered-partner-court-hears/news-story/64455a86b372906b9a297a0319426d8b

Woman allegedly googled "how to commit murder" along with other things
which were exposed in a court case where she is accused of murdering her
partner.

How is search history obtained by police/prosecutors? Google uses SSL
so I would have thought that search terms would not be recorded in the
meta-data that ISPs are required to retain.

The only way is the search history retained by the browser. So has this
woman stupidly not used an Incognito/Private browser window to make
these alleged searches?

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 by: Sylvia Else - Wed, 31 Mar 2021 08:38 UTC

On 31-Mar-21 6:13 pm, Max wrote:
> https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/courts-law/natasha-darcy-googled-how-to-commit-murder-in-months-before-she-allegedly-murdered-partner-court-hears/news-story/64455a86b372906b9a297a0319426d8b
>
>
> Woman allegedly googled "how to commit murder" along with other things
> which were exposed in a court case where she is accused of murdering her
> partner.
>
> How is search history obtained by police/prosecutors?  Google uses SSL
> so I would have thought that search terms would not be recorded in the
> meta-data that ISPs are required to retain.
>
> The only way is the search history retained by the browser.  So has this
> woman stupidly not used an Incognito/Private browser window to make
> these alleged searches?

If would be obtained from the computer on site, or from Google. A search
warrant would be required, and would no doubt easily be obtained.

Sylvia

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 by: Peter Jason - Wed, 31 Mar 2021 22:37 UTC

On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 19:38:15 +1100, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
wrote:

>On 31-Mar-21 6:13 pm, Max wrote:
>> https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/courts-law/natasha-darcy-googled-how-to-commit-murder-in-months-before-she-allegedly-murdered-partner-court-hears/news-story/64455a86b372906b9a297a0319426d8b
>>
>>
>> Woman allegedly googled "how to commit murder" along with other things
>> which were exposed in a court case where she is accused of murdering her
>> partner.
>>
>> How is search history obtained by police/prosecutors?  Google uses SSL
>> so I would have thought that search terms would not be recorded in the
>> meta-data that ISPs are required to retain.
>>
>> The only way is the search history retained by the browser.  So has this
>> woman stupidly not used an Incognito/Private browser window to make
>> these alleged searches?
>
>If would be obtained from the computer on site, or from Google. A search
>warrant would be required, and would no doubt easily be obtained.
>
>Sylvia
>

Would the woman be informed by the police, or Google, or the Tax
office that such an investigation is proceeding? Is the court order
obtained secretly?

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 by: News 2021 - Thu, 1 Apr 2021 01:43 UTC

On Thu, 01 Apr 2021 09:37:27 +1100, Peter Jason scribed:

> On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 19:38:15 +1100, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>On 31-Mar-21 6:13 pm, Max wrote:
>>> https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/courts-law/natasha-darcy-
googled-how-to-commit-murder-in-months-before-she-allegedly-murdered-
partner-court-hears/news-story/64455a86b372906b9a297a0319426d8b
>>>
>>>
>>> Woman allegedly googled "how to commit murder" along with other things
>>> which were exposed in a court case where she is accused of murdering
>>> her partner.
>>>
>>> How is search history obtained by police/prosecutors?  Google uses SSL
>>> so I would have thought that search terms would not be recorded in the
>>> meta-data that ISPs are required to retain.
>>>
>>> The only way is the search history retained by the browser.  So has
>>> this woman stupidly not used an Incognito/Private browser window to
>>> make these alleged searches?
>>
>>If would be obtained from the computer on site, or from Google. A search
>>warrant would be required, and would no doubt easily be obtained.
>>
>>Sylvia
>>
>>
> Would the woman be informed by the police, or Google, or the Tax office
> that such an investigation is proceeding? Is the court order obtained
> secretly?

No & Yes.
She'd know abut any search of equipment in her possessin when they turned
up with the search warrant, unless her gear was inspected for some other
reason.

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 by: Max - Thu, 1 Apr 2021 01:54 UTC

On 1/04/2021 12:43 pm, News 2021 wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Apr 2021 09:37:27 +1100, Peter Jason scribed:
>
>> On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 19:38:15 +1100, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 31-Mar-21 6:13 pm, Max wrote:
>>>> https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/courts-law/natasha-darcy-
> googled-how-to-commit-murder-in-months-before-she-allegedly-murdered-
> partner-court-hears/news-story/64455a86b372906b9a297a0319426d8b
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Woman allegedly googled "how to commit murder" along with other things
>>>> which were exposed in a court case where she is accused of murdering
>>>> her partner.
>>>>
>>>> How is search history obtained by police/prosecutors?  Google uses SSL
>>>> so I would have thought that search terms would not be recorded in the
>>>> meta-data that ISPs are required to retain.
>>>>
>>>> The only way is the search history retained by the browser.  So has
>>>> this woman stupidly not used an Incognito/Private browser window to
>>>> make these alleged searches?
>>>
>>> If would be obtained from the computer on site, or from Google. A search
>>> warrant would be required, and would no doubt easily be obtained.
>>>
>>> Sylvia
>>>
>>>
>> Would the woman be informed by the police, or Google, or the Tax office
>> that such an investigation is proceeding? Is the court order obtained
>> secretly?
>
> No & Yes.
> She'd know abut any search of equipment in her possessin when they turned
> up with the search warrant, unless her gear was inspected for some other
> reason.
>

Would she have a chance to quickly run to the computer and erase
browsing history?

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 by: Gary R. Schmidt - Thu, 1 Apr 2021 02:15 UTC

On 01/04/2021 12:54, Max wrote:
> On 1/04/2021 12:43 pm, News 2021 wrote:
>> On Thu, 01 Apr 2021 09:37:27 +1100, Peter Jason scribed:
>>
>>> On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 19:38:15 +1100, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 31-Mar-21 6:13 pm, Max wrote:
>>>>> https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/courts-law/natasha-darcy-
>> googled-how-to-commit-murder-in-months-before-she-allegedly-murdered-
>> partner-court-hears/news-story/64455a86b372906b9a297a0319426d8b
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Woman allegedly googled "how to commit murder" along with other things
>>>>> which were exposed in a court case where she is accused of murdering
>>>>> her partner.
>>>>>
>>>>> How is search history obtained by police/prosecutors?  Google uses SSL
>>>>> so I would have thought that search terms would not be recorded in the
>>>>> meta-data that ISPs are required to retain.
>>>>>
>>>>> The only way is the search history retained by the browser.  So has
>>>>> this woman stupidly not used an Incognito/Private browser window to
>>>>> make these alleged searches?
>>>>
>>>> If would be obtained from the computer on site, or from Google. A
>>>> search
>>>> warrant would be required, and would no doubt easily be obtained.
>>>>
>>>> Sylvia
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Would the woman be informed by the police, or Google, or the Tax office
>>> that such an investigation is proceeding?  Is the court order obtained
>>> secretly?
>>
>> No & Yes.
>> She'd know abut any search of equipment in her possessin when they turned
>> up with the search warrant, unless her gear was inspected for some other
>> reason.
>>
>
> Would she have a chance to quickly run to the computer and erase
> browsing history?

Maybe. It depends on the wording of the search warrant, and how cluey
the crim is.

Cheers,
Gary B-)

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 by: Rex Libris - Thu, 1 Apr 2021 03:01 UTC

On Thu, 01 Apr 2021 09:37:27 +1100
Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:

> Would the woman be informed by the police, or Google,

Google always inform the person involved.

https://support.google.com/transparencyreport/answer/9713961?hl=en

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 by: Rex Libris - Thu, 1 Apr 2021 03:13 UTC

On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 12:54:10 +1100
Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:

> Would she have a chance to quickly run to the computer and erase
> browsing history?

Pointless, Google have a copy. Even if she deletes it, remains on
Google servers for an unspecified time (Google will not say how long.)

Not all information will be available, the longer it takes for Google
to respond to any valid court order.

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 by: Rex Libris - Thu, 1 Apr 2021 03:19 UTC

On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 19:38:15 +1100
Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:

> If would be obtained from the computer on site, or from Google. A
> search warrant would be required, and would no doubt easily be
> obtained.

Not so easy to serve on Google, if you are outside U$A.For serving legal
documents on Google. https://is.gd/Dvw8fj

If Law Enforcement are involved,   Legal process
for user data requests FAQs https://is.gd/GqaAL2

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 by: Dechucka - Thu, 1 Apr 2021 04:01 UTC

On 1/04/2021 2:01 pm, Rex Libris wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Apr 2021 09:37:27 +1100
> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:
>
>> Would the woman be informed by the police, or Google,
>
>
> Google always inform the person involved.
>
> https://support.google.com/transparencyreport/answer/9713961?hl=en
>

Depends on the jurisdiction from your cite

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 by: Rex Libris - Thu, 1 Apr 2021 04:15 UTC

On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 15:01:41 +1100
Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On 1/04/2021 2:01 pm, Rex Libris wrote:
> > On Thu, 01 Apr 2021 09:37:27 +1100
> > Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Would the woman be informed by the police, or Google,
> >
> >
> > Google always inform the person involved.
> >
> > https://support.google.com/transparencyreport/answer/9713961?hl=en
> >
>
> Depends on the jurisdiction from your cite

Possibly, I may have missed that. I did notice however where
prohibited by law, Google will not notify you.

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 1 Apr 2021 06:27 UTC

"Max" <max@val.morgan> wrote in message news:s43940$epa$1@gioia.aioe.org...
> On 1/04/2021 12:43 pm, News 2021 wrote:
>> On Thu, 01 Apr 2021 09:37:27 +1100, Peter Jason scribed:
>>
>>> On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 19:38:15 +1100, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 31-Mar-21 6:13 pm, Max wrote:
>>>>> https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/courts-law/natasha-darcy-
>> googled-how-to-commit-murder-in-months-before-she-allegedly-murdered-
>> partner-court-hears/news-story/64455a86b372906b9a297a0319426d8b
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Woman allegedly googled "how to commit murder" along with other things
>>>>> which were exposed in a court case where she is accused of murdering
>>>>> her partner.
>>>>>
>>>>> How is search history obtained by police/prosecutors? Google uses SSL
>>>>> so I would have thought that search terms would not be recorded in the
>>>>> meta-data that ISPs are required to retain.
>>>>>
>>>>> The only way is the search history retained by the browser. So has
>>>>> this woman stupidly not used an Incognito/Private browser window to
>>>>> make these alleged searches?
>>>>
>>>> If would be obtained from the computer on site, or from Google. A
>>>> search
>>>> warrant would be required, and would no doubt easily be obtained.
>>>>
>>>> Sylvia
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Would the woman be informed by the police, or Google, or the Tax office
>>> that such an investigation is proceeding? Is the court order obtained
>>> secretly?
>>
>> No & Yes.
>> She'd know abut any search of equipment in her possessin when they turned
>> up with the search warrant, unless her gear was inspected for some other
>> reason.
>>
>
> Would she have a chance to quickly run to the computer and erase browsing
> history?

Corse not and its easy to recover that.

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 by: Sylvia Else - Thu, 1 Apr 2021 10:36 UTC

On 01-Apr-21 2:19 pm, Rex Libris wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 19:38:15 +1100
> Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:
>
>> If would be obtained from the computer on site, or from Google. A
>> search warrant would be required, and would no doubt easily be
>> obtained.
>
>
> Not so easy to serve on Google, if you are outside U$A.For serving legal
> documents on Google. https://is.gd/Dvw8fj
>
> If Law Enforcement are involved,   Legal process
> for user data requests FAQs https://is.gd/GqaAL2
>
>

It can be served on Google Australia Pty.

Sylvia

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 by: Rex Libris - Thu, 1 Apr 2021 18:25 UTC

On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 21:36:30 +1100
Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:

> On 01-Apr-21 2:19 pm, Rex Libris wrote:
> > On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 19:38:15 +1100
> > Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> If would be obtained from the computer on site, or from Google. A
> >> search warrant would be required, and would no doubt easily be
> >> obtained.
> >
> >
> > Not so easy to serve on Google, if you are outside U$A.For serving
> > legal documents on Google. https://is.gd/Dvw8fj
> >
> > If Law Enforcement are involved,   Legal process
> > for user data requests FAQs https://is.gd/GqaAL2
> >
> >
>
> It can be served on Google Australia Pty.

>
> Sylvia

They need to be served on Google Ireland, in some cases may be served
by FedEx/UPS etc to Google U$A.Or can be personally delivered to Google
at Mountain View.

https://support.google.com/faqs/answer/6151275?hl=en

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 by: News 2021 - Fri, 2 Apr 2021 00:51 UTC

On Thu, 01 Apr 2021 12:54:10 +1100, Max scribed:

> Would she have a chance to quickly run to the computer and erase
> browsing history?

FYI, there are some browsers that can be set to clear all cookies and/or
search history on exit. Supposedly. All this would have been know to
anyone who bother to at least read the fine print and/or ask "what's the
catch?".

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 by: Dechucka - Fri, 2 Apr 2021 01:33 UTC

On 2/04/2021 11:51 am, News 2021 wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Apr 2021 12:54:10 +1100, Max scribed:
>
>
>> Would she have a chance to quickly run to the computer and erase
>> browsing history?
>
> FYI, there are some browsers that can be set to clear all cookies and/or
> search history on exit. Supposedly. All this would have been know to
> anyone who bother to at least read the fine print and/or ask "what's the
> catch?".
>
The question is are there copies of the search history on the search
engine servers. Easy enough to get rid of histories and cookies and
clean the computer with a drive wiper, Not sure if the real smarties
could unclean it. Would it delete the MFT?

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 by: News 2021 - Fri, 2 Apr 2021 04:24 UTC

On Fri, 02 Apr 2021 12:33:47 +1100, Dechucka scribed:

> On 2/04/2021 11:51 am, News 2021 wrote:
>> On Thu, 01 Apr 2021 12:54:10 +1100, Max scribed:
>>
>>
>>> Would she have a chance to quickly run to the computer and erase
>>> browsing history?
>>
>> FYI, there are some browsers that can be set to clear all cookies
>> and/or search history on exit. Supposedly. All this would have been
>> know to anyone who bother to at least read the fine print and/or ask
>> "what's the catch?".
>>
> The question is are there copies of the search history on the search
> engine servers.

Hint, use a search engine that doesn't charge a fee by using you data.
See point above about reading the fone print.

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 by: Dechucka - Fri, 2 Apr 2021 04:37 UTC

On 2/04/2021 3:24 pm, News 2021 wrote:
> On Fri, 02 Apr 2021 12:33:47 +1100, Dechucka scribed:
>
>> On 2/04/2021 11:51 am, News 2021 wrote:
>>> On Thu, 01 Apr 2021 12:54:10 +1100, Max scribed:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Would she have a chance to quickly run to the computer and erase
>>>> browsing history?
>>>
>>> FYI, there are some browsers that can be set to clear all cookies
>>> and/or search history on exit. Supposedly. All this would have been
>>> know to anyone who bother to at least read the fine print and/or ask
>>> "what's the catch?".
>>>
>> The question is are there copies of the search history on the search
>> engine servers.
>
> Hint, use a search engine that doesn't charge a fee by using you data.

It isn't a matter of using my data the question is storage of data.

> See point above about reading the fone print.

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 by: News 2021 - Fri, 2 Apr 2021 06:55 UTC

On Fri, 02 Apr 2021 15:37:33 +1100, Dechucka scribed:

> On 2/04/2021 3:24 pm, News 2021 wrote:
>> On Fri, 02 Apr 2021 12:33:47 +1100, Dechucka scribed:
>>
>>> On 2/04/2021 11:51 am, News 2021 wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 01 Apr 2021 12:54:10 +1100, Max scribed:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Would she have a chance to quickly run to the computer and erase
>>>>> browsing history?
>>>>
>>>> FYI, there are some browsers that can be set to clear all cookies
>>>> and/or search history on exit. Supposedly. All this would have been
>>>> know to anyone who bother to at least read the fine print and/or ask
>>>> "what's the catch?".
>>>>
>>> The question is are there copies of the search history on the search
>>> engine servers.
>>
>> Hint, use a search engine that doesn't charge a fee by using you data.
>
> It isn't a matter of using my data the question is storage of data.

>> See point above about reading the f1ne print.

Hint, use a search engine that doesn't charge a fee by using you data.
See point above about reading the fine print

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 by: Frank Slootweg - Fri, 2 Apr 2021 15:14 UTC

Rex Libris <king.book@bookworm.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Apr 2021 09:37:27 +1100
> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:
>
> > Would the woman be informed by the police, or Google,
>
>
> Google always inform the person involved.
>
> https://support.google.com/transparencyreport/answer/9713961?hl=en

Aside from the already mentioned jurisdiction(s) aspect, it depends on
whether or not there *is* such an animal as a (Google) "account holder".

I.e. especially on a PC, you can use Google - the search engine, not
the company - without a Google Account. In that case Google might have
'your' browsing history, but has no way of knowing *who* 'you' are,
without information from your ISP(s), derived from your IP address(es).
In such a case, I think it's unlikely that Google will inform you. Maybe
- depending on their rules and jurisdiction(s) -, your ISP(s) will
inform you.

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 by: Peter Jason - Fri, 2 Apr 2021 22:46 UTC

On Fri, 2 Apr 2021 12:33:47 +1100, Dechucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On 2/04/2021 11:51 am, News 2021 wrote:
>> On Thu, 01 Apr 2021 12:54:10 +1100, Max scribed:
>>
>>
>>> Would she have a chance to quickly run to the computer and erase
>>> browsing history?
>>
>> FYI, there are some browsers that can be set to clear all cookies and/or
>> search history on exit. Supposedly. All this would have been know to
>> anyone who bother to at least read the fine print and/or ask "what's the
>> catch?".
>>
>The question is are there copies of the search history on the search
>engine servers. Easy enough to get rid of histories and cookies and
>clean the computer with a drive wiper, Not sure if the real smarties
>could unclean it. Would it delete the MFT?

One protection is to store sensitive stuff on a thumb drive; this can
be unplugged and swallowed in an instant, especially if plugged into a
USB3 extension cable. They're very small at present.....
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/42470/sandisk-ultra-fit-usb-3-1-flash-drive-16gb
To save frigging around at the USB hub, just have a USB3 extension
cord plugged into it......
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/38491/astrotek-usb-3-0-extension-cable-1m

Bitlocker everything, of course. Can the Feds get past Bitlocker?

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 by: Petzl - Fri, 2 Apr 2021 22:48 UTC

On 2 Apr 2021 15:14:01 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
wrote:

>Rex Libris <king.book@bookworm.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 01 Apr 2021 09:37:27 +1100
>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Would the woman be informed by the police, or Google,
>>
>>
>> Google always inform the person involved.
>>
>> https://support.google.com/transparencyreport/answer/9713961?hl=en
>
> Aside from the already mentioned jurisdiction(s) aspect, it depends on
>whether or not there *is* such an animal as a (Google) "account holder".
>
> I.e. especially on a PC, you can use Google - the search engine, not
>the company - without a Google Account. In that case Google might have
>'your' browsing history, but has no way of knowing *who* 'you' are,
>without information from your ISP(s), derived from your IP address(es).
>In such a case, I think it's unlikely that Google will inform you. Maybe
>- depending on their rules and jurisdiction(s) -, your ISP(s) will
>inform you.

VPN's are cheap now mines $30 a year, all data encrypted to and from
your computer, I believe they area good security feature.
Although ISP's do try to block/Restrict access of known VPN IP's which
change. Big problem is to many naive user won't run a virus/malware
program on their computer/device which (when hacked) also make them a
target for blocklists. targets, Windows Defender is so far a good
option for Windows PC's (you have paid for it with the operating
system.).
--
Petzl
Tiberius Caesar who reigned for 22 years,
and his last year was AD 37. wrote:
"The extremities of Spain, the various parts of Gaul, the regions of
Britain which have never been penetrated by Roman arms, have received
the religion of Christ."

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 by: Max - Fri, 2 Apr 2021 23:38 UTC

On 3/04/2021 2:14 am, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Rex Libris <king.book@bookworm.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 01 Apr 2021 09:37:27 +1100
>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Would the woman be informed by the police, or Google,
>>
>>
>> Google always inform the person involved.
>>
>> https://support.google.com/transparencyreport/answer/9713961?hl=en
>
> Aside from the already mentioned jurisdiction(s) aspect, it depends on
> whether or not there *is* such an animal as a (Google) "account holder".
>
> I.e. especially on a PC, you can use Google - the search engine, not
> the company - without a Google Account. In that case Google might have
> 'your' browsing history, but has no way of knowing *who* 'you' are,
> without information from your ISP(s), derived from your IP address(es).
> In such a case, I think it's unlikely that Google will inform you. Maybe
> - depending on their rules and jurisdiction(s) -, your ISP(s) will
> inform you.
>

Can you use a no-log VPN like Proton VPN? Then use an incognito/private
browser window.

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 by: Max - Sat, 3 Apr 2021 04:40 UTC

On 3/04/2021 9:48 am, Petzl wrote:
> On 2 Apr 2021 15:14:01 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> Rex Libris <king.book@bookworm.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 01 Apr 2021 09:37:27 +1100
>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Would the woman be informed by the police, or Google,
>>>
>>>
>>> Google always inform the person involved.
>>>
>>> https://support.google.com/transparencyreport/answer/9713961?hl=en
>>
>> Aside from the already mentioned jurisdiction(s) aspect, it depends on
>> whether or not there *is* such an animal as a (Google) "account holder".
>>
>> I.e. especially on a PC, you can use Google - the search engine, not
>> the company - without a Google Account. In that case Google might have
>> 'your' browsing history, but has no way of knowing *who* 'you' are,
>> without information from your ISP(s), derived from your IP address(es).
>> In such a case, I think it's unlikely that Google will inform you. Maybe
>> - depending on their rules and jurisdiction(s) -, your ISP(s) will
>> inform you.
>
> VPN's are cheap now mines $30 a year, all data encrypted to and from
> your computer, I believe they area good security feature.

Does the VPN keep logs? If they do then they are of no help.

> Although ISP's do try to block/Restrict access of known VPN IP's which
> change. Big problem is to many naive user won't run a virus/malware
> program on their computer/device which (when hacked) also make them a
> target for blocklists. targets, Windows Defender is so far a good
> option for Windows PC's (you have paid for it with the operating
> system.).
>

Re: Woman's alleged search history exposed in court

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 by: Rod Speed - Sat, 3 Apr 2021 04:44 UTC

"Max" <max@val.morgan> wrote in message news:s48rkd$1747$1@gioia.aioe.org...
> On 3/04/2021 9:48 am, Petzl wrote:
>> On 2 Apr 2021 15:14:01 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Rex Libris <king.book@bookworm.com> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 01 Apr 2021 09:37:27 +1100
>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Would the woman be informed by the police, or Google,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Google always inform the person involved.
>>>>
>>>> https://support.google.com/transparencyreport/answer/9713961?hl=en
>>>
>>> Aside from the already mentioned jurisdiction(s) aspect, it depends on
>>> whether or not there *is* such an animal as a (Google) "account holder".
>>>
>>> I.e. especially on a PC, you can use Google - the search engine, not
>>> the company - without a Google Account. In that case Google might have
>>> 'your' browsing history, but has no way of knowing *who* 'you' are,
>>> without information from your ISP(s), derived from your IP address(es).
>>> In such a case, I think it's unlikely that Google will inform you. Maybe
>>> - depending on their rules and jurisdiction(s) -, your ISP(s) will
>>> inform you.
>>
>> VPN's are cheap now mines $30 a year, all data encrypted to and from
>> your computer, I believe they area good security feature.

> Does the VPN keep logs?

Some explicitly don’t.

> If they do then they are of no help.

>> Although ISP's do try to block/Restrict access of known VPN IP's which
>> change. Big problem is to many naive user won't run a virus/malware
>> program on their computer/device which (when hacked) also make them a
>> target for blocklists. targets, Windows Defender is so far a good
>> option for Windows PC's (you have paid for it with the operating
>> system.).
>>
>

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