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+* Re: OT: mpg questionClive Arthur
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 by: Animal - Sun, 15 May 2022 21:47 UTC

On Saturday, 14 May 2022 at 21:38:33 UTC+1, SH wrote:
> On 14/05/2022 20:45, mm0fmf wrote:
> > On 14/05/2022 14:43, williamwright wrote:
> >> On 14/05/2022 13:47, Peter Johnson wrote:
> >>> In March I drove from Woking to Leicester in a Prius. Before leaving,
> >>> the Satnav said the distance was 118 miles and the trip computer
> >>> estimated the range available to be also 118 miles.
> >>> Reaching the M1 I tucked in behind a sequence of HGVs and made the
> >>> journey at 60-65mph. Reached home with an estimated 5 miles range
> >>> still available.
> >>
> >> The increases in fuel costs don't affect me because I always put
> >> exactly £30's worth in.
> >>
> >> Bill
> >
> > ROTLF. Thank you Bill.
> Has anyone noticed that new mums and dads often call their new borns
> after espensive things, Mercedes, Pearl, Ruby, Porsche etc....
>
> This time next year , new borns will be named Diesel, Petrol, Gas and
> Electric!

In Russia there are people called Tractor & Voucher. In Thailand, Tuktuk is a popularish name. In the Philippines there's Bongbong & Dingdong.

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 by: Animal - Sun, 15 May 2022 21:55 UTC

On Sunday, 15 May 2022 at 22:48:02 UTC+1, Animal wrote:
> On Saturday, 14 May 2022 at 21:38:33 UTC+1, SH wrote:
> > On 14/05/2022 20:45, mm0fmf wrote:
> > > On 14/05/2022 14:43, williamwright wrote:
> > >> On 14/05/2022 13:47, Peter Johnson wrote:
> > >>> In March I drove from Woking to Leicester in a Prius. Before leaving,
> > >>> the Satnav said the distance was 118 miles and the trip computer
> > >>> estimated the range available to be also 118 miles.
> > >>> Reaching the M1 I tucked in behind a sequence of HGVs and made the
> > >>> journey at 60-65mph. Reached home with an estimated 5 miles range
> > >>> still available.
> > >>
> > >> The increases in fuel costs don't affect me because I always put
> > >> exactly £30's worth in.
> > >>
> > >> Bill
> > >
> > > ROTLF. Thank you Bill.
> > Has anyone noticed that new mums and dads often call their new borns
> > after espensive things, Mercedes, Pearl, Ruby, Porsche etc....
> >
> > This time next year , new borns will be named Diesel, Petrol, Gas and
> > Electric!
>
> In Russia there are people called Tractor & Voucher. In Thailand, Tuktuk is a popularish name. In the Philippines there's Bongbong & Dingdong.

.... and here we have Depressed Cupboard Cheesecake!

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 by: Fredxx - Mon, 16 May 2022 05:40 UTC

On 15/05/2022 22:27, Tim Streater wrote:
> On 15 May 2022 at 21:59:56 BST, Tim+ <tim.downie@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Harry Bloomfield Esq <a@harrym1byt.plus.com> wrote:
>>> Clive Arthur has brought this to us :
>>>> Much the same happened to me on a longer trip of 260 miles which I'd done a
>>>> few times. Yes, I'm pretty sure it's the wind that makes the difference.
>>>
>>> ..and me, I beat 60mpg going east but that declined to 50 going west
>>> against the breeze.
>>>
>>
>> I used 50kWhr this weekend to do 260 miles (130 north, 130 south). Not sure
>> what that is in mpg…
>
> A litre contains about 10kWh, so that's 5 litres. A gallon is 4.55 litres. So
> there you are.

Last I looked 85% of electricity was generated with fossil fuels, and
given generation and the grid transmission efficiency is nominally 30%,
you need to multiply that accordingly. I would suggest 16 litres. Or
73mpg. A modern diesel should be able to manage that with less PMs too.

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 by: Richard - Mon, 16 May 2022 07:34 UTC

On 15/05/2022 21:59, Tim+ wrote:
> Harry Bloomfield Esq <a@harrym1byt.plus.com> wrote:
>> Clive Arthur has brought this to us :
>>> Much the same happened to me on a longer trip of 260 miles which I'd done a
>>> few times. Yes, I'm pretty sure it's the wind that makes the difference.
>>
>> ..and me, I beat 60mpg going east but that declined to 50 going west
>> against the breeze.
>>
>
> I used 50kWhr this weekend to do 260 miles (130 north, 130 south). Not sure
> what that is in mpg…

42 bananas.

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 by: Andy Burns - Mon, 16 May 2022 10:03 UTC

mm0fmf wrote:

> My car in eco mode (8 speed auto) drops in to neutral when you lift off over 30mph.

Mine does that, and when going downhill, will also stop the engine.

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 by: Andy Burns - Mon, 16 May 2022 10:19 UTC

Scott wrote:

> Richard
>
>> you're discussing with rod speed.
>
> I did not realise that. The laws of physics are different in
> Australia.

How often do new users stumble upon usenet?

Every time you see a new nym, ask youself "Is this Rod?" a couple of sentences
is all it takes to decide that it is, in 90% of cases.

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 by: Clive Arthur - Mon, 16 May 2022 10:24 UTC

On 16/05/2022 08:34, Richard wrote:
> On 15/05/2022 21:59, Tim+ wrote:
>> Harry Bloomfield Esq <a@harrym1byt.plus.com> wrote:
>>> Clive Arthur has brought this to us :
>>>> Much the same happened to me on a longer trip of 260 miles which I'd
>>>> done a
>>>> few times.  Yes, I'm pretty sure it's the wind that makes the
>>>> difference.
>>>
>>> ..and me, I beat 60mpg going east but that declined to 50 going west
>>> against the breeze.
>>>
>>
>> I used 50kWhr this weekend to do 260 miles (130 north, 130 south). Not
>> sure
>> what that is in mpg…
>
> 42 bananas.

Nearer 410 bananas. 1kWh is 860 Calories, a banana is 105 Calories.

[And 2000 Calories is 2.3kWh meaning your body averages something under
100W.]

--
Cheers
Clive

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 by: Scott - Mon, 16 May 2022 10:26 UTC

On Mon, 16 May 2022 11:19:20 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
wrote:

>Scott wrote:
>
>> Richard
>>
>>> you're discussing with rod speed.
>>
>> I did not realise that. The laws of physics are different in
>> Australia.
>
>How often do new users stumble upon usenet?
>
>Every time you see a new nym, ask youself "Is this Rod?" a couple of sentences
>is all it takes to decide that it is, in 90% of cases.

Could it not equally be his mate Commander Kinsey / James Wilkinson?

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 by: Richard - Mon, 16 May 2022 10:38 UTC

On 16/05/2022 11:24, Clive Arthur wrote:
> On 16/05/2022 08:34, Richard wrote:
>> On 15/05/2022 21:59, Tim+ wrote:
>>> Harry Bloomfield Esq <a@harrym1byt.plus.com> wrote:
>>>> Clive Arthur has brought this to us :
>>>>> Much the same happened to me on a longer trip of 260 miles which
>>>>> I'd done a
>>>>> few times.  Yes, I'm pretty sure it's the wind that makes the
>>>>> difference.
>>>>
>>>> ..and me, I beat 60mpg going east but that declined to 50 going west
>>>> against the breeze.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I used 50kWhr this weekend to do 260 miles (130 north, 130 south).
>>> Not sure
>>> what that is in mpg…
>>
>> 42 bananas.
>
> Nearer 410 bananas. 1kWh is 860 Calories, a banana is 105 Calories.

Ah, but what size banana?

>
> [And 2000 Calories is 2.3kWh meaning your body averages something under
> 100W.]

At my age, my body averages several WTFs, which is very probably below
the 100W you are guessing at.

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 by: alan_m - Mon, 16 May 2022 10:41 UTC

On 15/05/2022 22:35, Scott wrote:

>
> I did not realise that. The laws of physics are different in
> Australia.

On the other side of the world where everything is upside down gravity
barely holds things down to the earth's surface so the rolling
resistance of a car is a lot less.

--
mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk

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 by: The Natural Philosop - Mon, 16 May 2022 10:49 UTC

On 16/05/2022 11:03, Andy Burns wrote:
> mm0fmf wrote:
>
>> My car in eco mode (8 speed auto) drops in to neutral when you lift
>> off over 30mph.
>
> Mine does that, and when going downhill, will also stop the engine.
>
My auto box does that in granddad mode, but in sport it changes down and
does engine braking which seems to use less fuel..making a seamless
shift with a torque converter seems to use huge amounts of fuel

--
Renewable energy: Expensive solutions that don't work to a problem that
doesn't exist instituted by self legalising protection rackets that
don't protect, masquerading as public servants who don't serve the public.

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 by: Richard - Mon, 16 May 2022 10:54 UTC

On 16/05/2022 11:26, Scott wrote:
> On Mon, 16 May 2022 11:19:20 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> Scott wrote:
>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>> you're discussing with rod speed.
>>>
>>> I did not realise that. The laws of physics are different in
>>> Australia.
>>
>> How often do new users stumble upon usenet?
>>
>> Every time you see a new nym, ask youself "Is this Rod?" a couple of sentences
>> is all it takes to decide that it is, in 90% of cases.
>
> Could it not equally be his mate Commander Kinsey / James Wilkinson?

No, the fragrance of the dunny dweller is unmistakable.

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 by: NY - Mon, 16 May 2022 11:03 UTC

"Richard" <smithski@btinternet.com.invalid> wrote in message
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>>>> I used 50kWhr this weekend to do 260 miles (130 north, 130 south). Not
>>>> sure
>>>> what that is in mpg…
>>>
>>> 42 bananas.
>>
>> Nearer 410 bananas. 1kWh is 860 Calories, a banana is 105 Calories.
>
> Ah, but what size banana?

And are they bent or straight bananas?

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 by: Richard - Mon, 16 May 2022 11:25 UTC

On 16/05/2022 12:03, NY wrote:
> "Richard" <smithski@btinternet.com.invalid> wrote in message
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>>>>> I used 50kWhr this weekend to do 260 miles (130 north, 130 south).
>>>>> Not sure
>>>>> what that is in mpg…
>>>>
>>>> 42 bananas.
>>>
>>> Nearer 410 bananas. 1kWh is 860 Calories, a banana is 105 Calories.
>>
>> Ah, but what size banana?
>
> And are they bent or straight bananas?

Orientation, or geometric?

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 by: NY - Mon, 16 May 2022 11:33 UTC

"Richard" <smithski@btinternet.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> On 16/05/2022 12:03, NY wrote:
>> "Richard" <smithski@btinternet.com.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:t5t9j7$1uk1$1@gioia.aioe.org...
>>>>>> I used 50kWhr this weekend to do 260 miles (130 north, 130 south).
>>>>>> Not sure
>>>>>> what that is in mpg…
>>>>>
>>>>> 42 bananas.
>>>>
>>>> Nearer 410 bananas. 1kWh is 860 Calories, a banana is 105 Calories.
>>>
>>> Ah, but what size banana?
>>
>> And are they bent or straight bananas?
>
> Orientation, or geometric?

Good point. I was thinking of geometric, forgetting about orientation.
Anyone for a trans banana?

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 by: Richard - Mon, 16 May 2022 12:17 UTC

On 16/05/2022 12:33, NY wrote:
> "Richard" <smithski@btinternet.com.invalid> wrote in message
> news:t5tcal$17d7$1@gioia.aioe.org...
>> On 16/05/2022 12:03, NY wrote:
>>> "Richard" <smithski@btinternet.com.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:t5t9j7$1uk1$1@gioia.aioe.org...
>>>>>>> I used 50kWhr this weekend to do 260 miles (130 north, 130
>>>>>>> south). Not sure
>>>>>>> what that is in mpg…
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 42 bananas.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nearer 410 bananas. 1kWh is 860 Calories, a banana is 105 Calories.
>>>>
>>>> Ah, but what size banana?
>>>
>>> And are they bent or straight bananas?
>>
>> Orientation, or geometric?
>
> Good point. I was thinking of geometric, forgetting about orientation.
> Anyone for a trans banana?

Is that swallowed sideways?

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 by: The Natural Philosop - Mon, 16 May 2022 12:41 UTC

On 16/05/2022 06:40, Fredxx wrote:
> On 15/05/2022 22:27, Tim Streater wrote:
>> On 15 May 2022 at 21:59:56 BST, Tim+ <tim.downie@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Harry Bloomfield Esq <a@harrym1byt.plus.com> wrote:
>>>> Clive Arthur has brought this to us :
>>>>> Much the same happened to me on a longer trip of 260 miles which
>>>>> I'd done a
>>>>> few times.  Yes, I'm pretty sure it's the wind that makes the
>>>>> difference.
>>>>
>>>> ..and me, I beat 60mpg going east but that declined to 50 going west
>>>> against the breeze.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I used 50kWhr this weekend to do 260 miles (130 north, 130 south).
>>> Not sure
>>> what that is in mpg…
>>
>> A litre contains about 10kWh, so that's 5 litres. A gallon is 4.55
>> litres. So
>> there you are.
>
> Last I looked 85% of electricity was generated with fossil fuels, and
> given generation and the grid transmission efficiency is nominally 30%,
> you need to multiply that accordingly. I would suggest 16 litres. Or
> 73mpg. A modern diesel should be able to manage that with less PMs too.
>
>
>
And diesel engines are less than 40% effcient, but electric motors are
nearer 90%.

--
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to converts. It is deception that uses all the other techniques.

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 by: Robin - Mon, 16 May 2022 14:50 UTC

On 16/05/2022 13:17, Richard wrote:
> On 16/05/2022 12:33, NY wrote:
>> "Richard" <smithski@btinternet.com.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:t5tcal$17d7$1@gioia.aioe.org...
>>> On 16/05/2022 12:03, NY wrote:
>>>> "Richard" <smithski@btinternet.com.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:t5t9j7$1uk1$1@gioia.aioe.org...
>>>>>>>> I used 50kWhr this weekend to do 260 miles (130 north, 130
>>>>>>>> south). Not sure
>>>>>>>> what that is in mpg…
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 42 bananas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nearer 410 bananas. 1kWh is 860 Calories, a banana is 105 Calories.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah, but what size banana?
>>>>
>>>> And are they bent or straight bananas?
>>>
>>> Orientation, or geometric?
>>
>> Good point. I was thinking of geometric, forgetting about orientation.
>> Anyone for a trans banana?
>
> Is that swallowed sideways?

I think that's a matter of personal choice as to size

https://bananaprosthetics.com/pages/a-propos

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 by: NY - Mon, 16 May 2022 15:06 UTC

"Richard" <smithski@btinternet.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:t5tfcr$n3n$2@gioia.aioe.org...
> On 16/05/2022 12:33, NY wrote:
>> "Richard" <smithski@btinternet.com.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:t5tcal$17d7$1@gioia.aioe.org...
>>> On 16/05/2022 12:03, NY wrote:
>>>> "Richard" <smithski@btinternet.com.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:t5t9j7$1uk1$1@gioia.aioe.org...
>>>>>>>> I used 50kWhr this weekend to do 260 miles (130 north, 130 south).
>>>>>>>> Not sure
>>>>>>>> what that is in mpg…
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 42 bananas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nearer 410 bananas. 1kWh is 860 Calories, a banana is 105 Calories.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah, but what size banana?
>>>>
>>>> And are they bent or straight bananas?
>>>
>>> Orientation, or geometric?
>>
>> Good point. I was thinking of geometric, forgetting about orientation.
>> Anyone for a trans banana?
>
> Is that swallowed sideways?

Ah, the old "spit or swallow" debate ;-)

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 by: Richard - Mon, 16 May 2022 18:10 UTC

On 16/05/2022 15:50, Robin wrote:
> On 16/05/2022 13:17, Richard wrote:
>> On 16/05/2022 12:33, NY wrote:
>>> "Richard" <smithski@btinternet.com.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:t5tcal$17d7$1@gioia.aioe.org...
>>>> On 16/05/2022 12:03, NY wrote:
>>>>> "Richard" <smithski@btinternet.com.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>> news:t5t9j7$1uk1$1@gioia.aioe.org...
>>>>>>>>> I used 50kWhr this weekend to do 260 miles (130 north, 130
>>>>>>>>> south). Not sure
>>>>>>>>> what that is in mpg…
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 42 bananas.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nearer 410 bananas. 1kWh is 860 Calories, a banana is 105 Calories.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ah, but what size banana?
>>>>>
>>>>> And are they bent or straight bananas?
>>>>
>>>> Orientation, or geometric?
>>>
>>> Good point. I was thinking of geometric, forgetting about
>>> orientation. Anyone for a trans banana?
>>
>> Is that swallowed sideways?
>
> I think that's a matter of personal choice as to size
>
> https://bananaprosthetics.com/pages/a-propos

WTF?! People really the strangest things.

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 by: Andrew - Mon, 16 May 2022 18:35 UTC

On 16/05/2022 11:03, Andy Burns wrote:
> mm0fmf wrote:
>
>> My car in eco mode (8 speed auto) drops in to neutral when you lift
>> off over 30mph.
>
> Mine does that, and when going downhill, will also stop the engine.
>

2-stroke Saab 9x's did that decades ago because they had some
sort of freewheel to prevent the engine from seizing, but also
meant no engine braking. I am old enough to remember the
"engage low gear" sign on long downhill gradients, but I haven't
seen one for ages. The long downhill going down into Bath when you
come from the M4 has an escape road at the bottom for errant HGV's
etc.

Footnote: Just realised that 'seized' breaks the "i before e
except after c" rule.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_before_E_except_after_C

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 by: Andrew - Mon, 16 May 2022 18:42 UTC

On 15/05/2022 21:59, Tim+ wrote:
> Harry Bloomfield Esq <a@harrym1byt.plus.com> wrote:
>> Clive Arthur has brought this to us :
>>> Much the same happened to me on a longer trip of 260 miles which I'd done a
>>> few times. Yes, I'm pretty sure it's the wind that makes the difference.
>>
>> ..and me, I beat 60mpg going east but that declined to 50 going west
>> against the breeze.
>>
>
> I used 50kWhr this weekend to do 260 miles (130 north, 130 south). Not sure
> what that is in mpg…
>
> Tim
>

About £15, assuming 30p/KwH, as opposed to about
£50 in petrol at 40mpg

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 by: Andrew - Mon, 16 May 2022 18:44 UTC

On 16/05/2022 11:24, Clive Arthur wrote:
> On 16/05/2022 08:34, Richard wrote:
>> On 15/05/2022 21:59, Tim+ wrote:
>>> Harry Bloomfield Esq <a@harrym1byt.plus.com> wrote:
>>>> Clive Arthur has brought this to us :
>>>>> Much the same happened to me on a longer trip of 260 miles which
>>>>> I'd done a
>>>>> few times.  Yes, I'm pretty sure it's the wind that makes the
>>>>> difference.
>>>>
>>>> ..and me, I beat 60mpg going east but that declined to 50 going west
>>>> against the breeze.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I used 50kWhr this weekend to do 260 miles (130 north, 130 south).
>>> Not sure
>>> what that is in mpg…
>>
>> 42 bananas.
>
> Nearer 410 bananas. 1kWh is 860 Calories, a banana is 105 Calories.
>
> [And 2000 Calories is 2.3kWh meaning your body averages something under
> 100W.]
>

7.8 billion times 100 Watts is an awful lot of heat.

We need a pandemic. Blimey what happened ?.

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 by: Tim Streater - Mon, 16 May 2022 20:19 UTC

On 16 May 2022 at 19:35:14 BST, Andrew <Andrew97d-junk@mybtinternet.com>
wrote:

> On 16/05/2022 11:03, Andy Burns wrote:
>> mm0fmf wrote:
>>
>>> My car in eco mode (8 speed auto) drops in to neutral when you lift
>>> off over 30mph.
>>
>> Mine does that, and when going downhill, will also stop the engine.
>
> 2-stroke Saab 9x's did that decades ago because they had some
> sort of freewheel to prevent the engine from seizing, but also
> meant no engine braking.

You talking about the Saab 99?

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 by: Vir Campestris - Mon, 16 May 2022 20:32 UTC

On 14/05/2022 13:56, Jethro_uk wrote:
> Depends on loads of things, not least the envelope where the engine
> produces the most efficient output - usually c. 3000-3500 rpm for petrol.
>
> I once saved 25% on a 100 mile journey by doing 55 instead of 75.
>
> You can tell how much of this climate "emergency" is bollocks from the
> fact that a rigidly enforced 65mph limit on motorways would save the UK
> quite a bit in fuel consumption. (Although not as much as not travelling
> at all).

Sadly peak torque, and probably peak engine efficiency in my car is at
~95MPH...

When we feel like being economical we take my wife's car. 1300 hatchback
with cruise control is better at motorway speeds than my 20yo sports
car. And gets 48MPG instead of 35.

(Off the motorway, OTOH...)

And I'll believe that fuel is too expensive when I stop seeing people
whizz past me when I'm on the (GPS checked) speed limit.

Andy

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