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Lockdown project

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 by: Noddy - Sat, 18 Sep 2021 13:19 UTC

*Caution: Automotive related post warning*

Like most of the rest of the country we here in regional Vic have been
in lockdown, and like a lot of people in lockdown I've been inspired to
do some of the things I've been meaning to do. Actually, lockdown hasn't
made a hell of a lot of difference to me now that I'm fully retired, but
I'm using it as an excuse to do a few things I've been meaning to do for
a while.

One of those things has been to get into Vapor blasting.

Vapor blasting, vapor honing, water blasting, wetblasting, whatever you
want to call it. The process is basically wet media blasting, with the
emphasis being on fine, non destructive finishes on things like cast
alloy and zinc for items such as inlet manifolds and carburetors. In
applications where you're looking to restore an original cast finish, or
prepare a zinc bodied carburetor for recolouring, it's ideal as it
produces a near perfect surface finish without casing damage like dry
blasting can.

There are a few specialist businesses in Melbourne who offer vapor
blasting services, but as none of them are anywhere near me and I
currently can't get to them anyway I decided to build my own cabinet and
see how well it would work.

This is it here:

> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NX9H

> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NX9I

The cabinet itself started life as a 350 buck "over the counter" dry
blasting cabinet that I've modified to run as "wet" machine, which
basically meant sealing every possible gap to prevent leaks. In order
for the process to work, it needs a supply of a "slurry" of media mixed
with water pumped up to a hand-piece that is then hit with high pressure
air. The "blasting" process works the same as any conventional dry
blaster but with the media suspended in water it provides a softer
action that polishes more than bites, and leaves a nice "as new" finish
on cast alloy without turning it into a dull chalky finished mess like
dry blasting does.

As can be seen in the pics, the collapsible motor bike stand underneath
the cabinet holds a 30 litre plastic tank which is where the media
slurry is kept, and inside this tank is a 240v dirty water pump that
both agitates the mix to keep the media suspended in the water, and to
pump it up to the gun.

> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NX9L

The pump sits freely in the bottom of the cabinet and is held in place
by it's own weight on the base of the media tank. It's made that way on
purpose so different medias can be used simply by swapping out the
tanks. Tank swaps take less than a minute.

Using the machine is very easy, and it's controlled by foot switches.
Light for the cabinet is supplied by a 24 inch 12v light bar that is
driven by a power supply in the electrical cabinet, and is always on
when the power is on. The pump is a 240v unit that is controlled by a
12v switched relay that is activated by one of the foot pedals, and a
marine bilge fan is plumbed into the back of the cabinet and wired into
the pump control circuit so it is activated whenever the pump is running.

The other two pedals control the air solenoid valve to supply high
pressure air to the gun, and the windscreen wiper that wipes the inside
of the cabinet glass. All three pedals are momentary contact types, but
thanks to a basic Arduino logic controller and a 4 port relay board they
operate as latching switches so you don't have to hold them down.

> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NX9J

So, how does it work? Well, for a first attempt that's still being
played with I think the results are excellent.

This is the machine being used to clean up a Holley float bowl that was
pretty grubby to ready it for plating:

> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NXA4

And the final result was very satisfying:

> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NXA6

The bowl came up like new with zero abrasive damage which is something
that usually never happens with these things during a dry blast. Even
when using dry soda blasting some of the very fine lettering gets taken
off as the case zinc is very fragile, but in this case none of it was
damaged at all. This bowl was blasted wet with Soda as the media at
40psi, and it came out clean enough to plate with no other work required.

As for cast alloy, a fine glass bead slurry produced the best results.

This inlet manifold here is an original Phase I GTHO part that has been
sitting for many years after having been dry bead blasted by someone
else. As a media ratio test I stuck it in the cabinet and blasted the
upper runner that is visibly cleaner in the picture, and although the
photo doesn't capture the difference as well as I would have liked the
result was quite astounding. The Alloy finish went from a dull, powdery
one to as new smooth, and I was very happy with it. The ratio of the
water/media slurry was 10:1, with very fine grade glass bead used.

To try a mix of different medias on different parts of the same item I
used an old alternator:

> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NXAA

> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NXAC

This is actually the alternator off my old Mitsubishi Forklift, and as
it needed a reco I thought I'd pull it apart and give it some new
bearings and brushes and use the cabinet to clean it up as I was doing
it. As can be seen it was pretty grubby and discoloured. To clean this
up the Stator, Rotor and Regulator pack were blasted with Soda, and the
alloy housing with glass bead. It came up like brand new.

Playing around a bit further I upped the glass bead to water ratio
slightly and tried it out on an old water pump.

Before:

> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NXAI

> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NXCJ

And after:

> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NXCM

> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NXCP

I'm not re-using this water pump and it's going into the scrap bin as
it's past it's use-by date, but the purpose of blasting it is to try to
get the process to replicate an "as new" finish as close as possible for
restoration work, and even though it's still very early days here with
this I don't think it's doing a bad job. Here's the blasted water pump
compared to a brand new one:

> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NXCT

> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NXCW

As you can see there isn't a hell of a lot of difference in it, and it's
even less distinguishable to the naked eye.

Finally, just as a "fuck around" to see how well it coped with general
cleaning, I tried this old rocker cover which was half covered in paint
and half in rust. I forgot to take a "before" pic, but the end result
was impressive:

> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NXE8

> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NXED

The total time to do this was under 10 minutes, and while I would
normally dry blast something like this to provide a bit of an "etch" to
the surface in preparation for painting, the finish on the tin is quite
amazing. It's *very* smooth, and surprisingly resistant to rusting like
dry blasted metal does as soon as you touch it.

In all, I'm quite pleased with the outcome and think the initial results
have been excellent. Total cost of the project thus far has run about
700 bucks, and while I'm still sorting out teething problems like minor
water leaks and the Arduino PLC being a little unreliable at times I'm
very happy with how it's turned out and am looking forward to producing
some quality restored components with it.

If anyone is interested in building their own cabinet, there's a Kiwi
bloke who goes by the name of "Armoury Enterprises" who produces a bunch
of "how to" vids on building one, and I've incorporated a few of his
ideas as well as my own and those of other people in building this one.

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Regards,
Noddy.

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 by: Clocky - Sat, 18 Sep 2021 15:31 UTC

On 18/09/2021 9:19 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
> *Caution: Automotive related post warning*
>
> Like most of the rest of the country we here in regional Vic have been
> in lockdown, and like a lot of people in lockdown I've been inspired to
> do some of the things I've been meaning to do. Actually, lockdown hasn't
> made a hell of a lot of difference to me now that I'm fully retired, but
> I'm using it as an excuse to do a few things I've been meaning to do for
> a while.
>
> One of those things has been to get into Vapor blasting.
>

<snip wank>

Here it is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6adoMU90Pgc

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 by: F Murtz - Sat, 18 Sep 2021 15:37 UTC

On 19/9/21 1:31 am, Clocky wrote:
> On 18/09/2021 9:19 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>
>> *Caution: Automotive related post warning*
>>
>> Like most of the rest of the country we here in regional Vic have been
>> in lockdown, and like a lot of people in lockdown I've been inspired
>> to do some of the things I've been meaning to do. Actually, lockdown
>> hasn't made a hell of a lot of difference to me now that I'm fully
>> retired, but I'm using it as an excuse to do a few things I've been
>> meaning to do for a while.
>>
>> One of those things has been to get into Vapor blasting.
>>
>
> <snip wank>
>
> Here it is:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6adoMU90Pgc
>
>
how about dry ice blasting?

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 by: Mountain Magpie - Sat, 18 Sep 2021 20:07 UTC

On Sat, 18 Sep 2021 23:19:34 +1000, Noddy posted:-

> *Caution: Automotive related post warning*

Stop right there!

You need to take a Bex, a cup of tea, and have a good lie down!

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 by: Yosemite Sam - Sat, 18 Sep 2021 21:19 UTC

On 19/09/2021 6:07 am, Mountain Magpie wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Sep 2021 23:19:34 +1000, Noddy posted:-
>
>> *Caution: Automotive related post warning*
> Stop right there!
>
> You need to take a Bex, a cup of tea, and have a good lie down!
>

someone is showing their age. recent generations have never heard of bex.

--
"A mans got to know his limitations"
- clint Eastwood as Dirty Harry

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 by: Mountain Magpie - Sat, 18 Sep 2021 21:26 UTC

On Sun, 19 Sep 2021 07:19:15 +1000, Yosemite Sam posted:-

> On 19/09/2021 6:07 am, Mountain Magpie wrote:
> > On Sat, 18 Sep 2021 23:19:34 +1000, Noddy posted:-
> >
> >> *Caution: Automotive related post warning*
> > Stop right there!
> >
> > You need to take a Bex, a cup of tea, and have a good lie down!
> >
>
> someone is showing their age. recent generations have never heard of
> bex.

:-)
>
>
> --
> "A mans got to know his limitations"
> - clint Eastwood as Dirty Harry
>

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 by: Yosemite Sam - Sat, 18 Sep 2021 21:32 UTC

On 19/09/2021 1:31 am, Clocky wrote:
> On 18/09/2021 9:19 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>
>> *Caution: Automotive related post warning*
>>
>> Like most of the rest of the country we here in regional Vic have
>> been in lockdown, and like a lot of people in lockdown I've been
>> inspired to do some of the things I've been meaning to do. Actually,
>> lockdown hasn't made a hell of a lot of difference to me now that I'm
>> fully retired, but I'm using it as an excuse to do a few things I've
>> been meaning to do for a while.
>>
>> One of those things has been to get into Vapor blasting.
>>
>
> <snip wank>
>
> Here it is:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6adoMU90Pgc
>
>

I couldn't be bothered reading the OP. are you saying this unit he's
claiming to have built is really just an 'off the shelf' item?

--
"A mans got to know his limitations"
- clint Eastwood as Dirty Harry

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 by: alvey - Sat, 18 Sep 2021 21:34 UTC

On Sun, 19 Sep 2021 07:32:39 +1000, Yosemite Sam wrote:

> On 19/09/2021 1:31 am, Clocky wrote:
>> On 18/09/2021 9:19 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>
>>> *Caution: Automotive related post warning*
>>>
>>> Like most of the rest of the country we here in regional Vic have
>>> been in lockdown, and like a lot of people in lockdown I've been
>>> inspired to do some of the things I've been meaning to do. Actually,
>>> lockdown hasn't made a hell of a lot of difference to me now that I'm
>>> fully retired, but I'm using it as an excuse to do a few things I've
>>> been meaning to do for a while.
>>>
>>> One of those things has been to get into Vapor blasting.
>>>
>>
>> <snip wank>
>>
>> Here it is:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6adoMU90Pgc
>>
>>
>
> I couldn't be bothered reading the OP. are you saying this unit he's
> claiming to have built is really just an 'off the shelf' item?

Doesn't matter felix. Either way it *conclusively* proves that The
Fraudster is a super-duper mechanic...

alvey
Hoping Der Der can get all the bits he's pulled apart to polish back
together again.

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On 19/09/2021 1:37 am, F Murtz wrote:
> On 19/9/21 1:31 am, Clocky wrote:
>> On 18/09/2021 9:19 pm, Noddy wrote:

>>> One of those things has been to get into Vapor blasting.
>>>
>>
>> <snip wank>
>>
>> Here it is:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6adoMU90Pgc
>>
>>
> how about dry ice blasting?

Can't imagine what benefits that would provide for the complexity
necessary to make it work. This process is simple and effective.

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On 18/9/21 11:19 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
> *Caution: Automotive related post warning*
>
> Like most of the rest of the country we here in regional Vic have been
> in lockdown, and like a lot of people in lockdown I've been inspired to
> do some of the things I've been meaning to do. Actually, lockdown hasn't
> made a hell of a lot of difference to me now that I'm fully retired, but
> I'm using it as an excuse to do a few things I've been meaning to do for
> a while.
>
> One of those things has been to get into Vapor blasting.
>
> Vapor blasting, vapor honing, water blasting, wetblasting, whatever you
> want to call it. The process is basically wet media blasting, with the
> emphasis being on fine, non destructive finishes on things like cast
> alloy and zinc for items such as inlet manifolds and carburetors. In
> applications where you're looking to restore an original cast finish, or
> prepare a zinc bodied carburetor for recolouring, it's ideal as it
> produces a near perfect surface finish without casing damage like dry
> blasting can.
>
> There are a few specialist businesses in Melbourne who offer vapor
> blasting services, but as none of them are anywhere near me and I
> currently can't get to them anyway I decided to build my own cabinet and
> see how well it would work.
>
> This is it here:
>
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NX9H
>
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NX9I
>
> The cabinet itself started life as a 350 buck "over the counter" dry
> blasting cabinet that I've modified to run as "wet" machine, which
> basically meant sealing every possible gap to prevent leaks. In order
> for the process to work, it needs a supply of a "slurry" of media mixed
> with water pumped up to a hand-piece that is then hit with high pressure
> air. The "blasting" process works the same as any conventional dry
> blaster but with the media suspended in water it provides a softer
> action that polishes more than bites, and leaves a nice "as new" finish
> on cast alloy without turning it into a dull chalky finished mess like
> dry blasting does.
>
> As can be seen in the pics, the collapsible motor bike stand underneath
> the cabinet holds a 30 litre plastic tank which is where the media
> slurry is kept, and inside this tank is a 240v dirty water pump that
> both agitates the mix to keep the media suspended in the water, and to
> pump it up to the gun.
>
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NX9L
>
> The pump sits freely in the bottom of the cabinet and is held in place
> by it's own weight on the base of the media tank. It's made that way on
> purpose so different medias can be used simply by swapping out the
> tanks. Tank swaps take less than a minute.
>
> Using the machine is very easy, and it's controlled by foot switches.
> Light for the cabinet is supplied by a 24 inch 12v light bar that is
> driven by a power supply in the electrical cabinet, and is always on
> when the power is on. The pump is a 240v unit that is controlled by a
> 12v switched relay that is activated by one of the foot pedals, and a
> marine bilge fan is plumbed into the back of the cabinet and wired into
> the pump control circuit so it is activated whenever the pump is running.
>
> The other two pedals control the air solenoid valve to supply high
> pressure air to the gun, and the windscreen wiper that wipes the inside
> of the cabinet glass. All three pedals are momentary contact types, but
> thanks to a basic Arduino logic controller and a 4 port relay board they
> operate as latching switches so you don't have to hold them down.
>
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NX9J
>
> So, how does it work? Well, for a first attempt that's still being
> played with I think the results are excellent.
>
> This is the machine being used to clean up a Holley float bowl that was
> pretty grubby to ready it for plating:
>
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NXA4
>
> And the final result was very satisfying:
>
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NXA6
>
> The bowl came up like new with zero abrasive damage which is something
> that usually never happens with these things during a dry blast. Even
> when using dry soda blasting some of the very fine lettering gets taken
> off as the case zinc is very fragile, but in this case none of it was
> damaged at all. This bowl was blasted wet with Soda as the media at
> 40psi, and it came out clean enough to plate with no other work required.
>
> As for cast alloy, a fine glass bead slurry produced the best results.
>
> This inlet manifold here is an original Phase I GTHO part that has been
> sitting for many years after having been dry bead blasted by someone
> else. As a media ratio test I stuck it in the cabinet and blasted the
> upper runner that is visibly cleaner in the picture, and although the
> photo doesn't capture the difference as well as I would have liked the
> result was quite astounding. The Alloy finish went from a dull, powdery
> one to as new smooth, and I was very happy with it. The ratio of the
> water/media slurry was 10:1, with very fine grade glass bead used.
>
> To try a mix of different medias on different parts of the same item I
> used an old alternator:
>
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NXAA
>
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NXAC
>
> This is actually the alternator off my old Mitsubishi Forklift, and as
> it needed a reco I thought I'd pull it apart and give it some new
> bearings and brushes and use the cabinet to clean it up as I was doing
> it. As can be seen it was pretty grubby and discoloured. To clean this
> up the Stator, Rotor and Regulator pack were blasted with Soda, and the
> alloy housing with glass bead. It came up like brand new.
>
> Playing around a bit further I upped the glass bead to water ratio
> slightly and tried it out on an old water pump.
>
> Before:
>
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NXAI
>
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NXCJ
>
> And after:
>
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NXCM
>
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NXCP
>
> I'm not re-using this water pump and it's going into the scrap bin as
> it's past it's use-by date, but the purpose of blasting it is to try to
> get the process to replicate an "as new" finish as close as possible for
> restoration work, and even though it's still very early days here with
> this I don't think it's doing a bad job. Here's the blasted water pump
> compared to a brand new one:
>
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NXCT
>
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NXCW
>
> As you can see there isn't a hell of a lot of difference in it, and it's
> even less distinguishable to the naked eye.
>
> Finally, just as a "fuck around" to see how well it coped with general
> cleaning, I tried this old rocker cover which was half covered in paint
> and half in rust. I forgot to take a "before" pic, but the end result
> was impressive:
>
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NXE8
>
>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NXED
>
> The total time to do this was under 10 minutes, and while I would
> normally dry blast something like this to provide a bit of an "etch" to
> the surface in preparation for painting, the finish on the tin is quite
> amazing. It's *very* smooth, and surprisingly resistant to rusting like
> dry blasted metal does as soon as you touch it.
>
> In all, I'm quite pleased with the outcome and think the initial results
> have been excellent. Total cost of the project thus far has run about
> 700 bucks, and while I'm still sorting out teething problems like minor
> water leaks and the Arduino PLC being a little unreliable at times I'm
> very happy with how it's turned out and am looking forward to producing
> some quality restored components with it.
>

Nice results, those of us who actually work on cars know how difficult
it is to get parts clean and looking like new.

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On 19/09/2021 9:28 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 19/09/2021 1:37 am, F Murtz wrote:
>> On 19/9/21 1:31 am, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 18/09/2021 9:19 pm, Noddy wrote:
>
>>>> One of those things has been to get into Vapor blasting.
>>>>
>>>
>>> <snip wank>
>>>
>>> Here it is:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6adoMU90Pgc
>>>
>>>
>> how about dry ice blasting?
>
> Can't imagine what benefits that would provide for the complexity
> necessary to make it work. This process is simple and effective.
>
Soda blasting is a nice gentle method particularly on aluminium, but it
is expensive and messy.

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On 19/09/2021 11:25 am, keithr0 wrote:
> On 19/09/2021 9:28 am, Noddy wrote:
>> On 19/09/2021 1:37 am, F Murtz wrote:
>>> On 19/9/21 1:31 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 18/09/2021 9:19 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>>>> One of those things has been to get into Vapor blasting.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <snip wank>
>>>>
>>>> Here it is:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6adoMU90Pgc
>>>>
>>>>
>>> how about dry ice blasting?
>>
>> Can't imagine what benefits that would provide for the complexity
>> necessary to make it work. This process is simple and effective.
>>
> Soda blasting is a nice gentle method particularly on aluminium, but it
> is expensive and messy.

I don't find it to be particularly expensive. I've been using it in the
dry blasting cabinet for some time and I buy a 20kg bag of it from the
local farm suppliers for around 40 bucks or so. It lasts a fair while,
particularly when suspended in water which seems to extend it's life
considerably. However it *is* incredibly messy. If you have a leak spot
in your cabinet anywhere, Soda will find it.

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 by: Noddy - Sun, 19 Sep 2021 01:42 UTC

On 19/09/2021 10:19 am, Daryl wrote:
> On 18/9/21 11:19 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>
>> *Caution: Automotive related post warning*

>>
>> In all, I'm quite pleased with the outcome and think the initial
>> results have been excellent. Total cost of the project thus far has
>> run about 700 bucks, and while I'm still sorting out teething problems
>> like minor water leaks and the Arduino PLC being a little unreliable
>> at times I'm very happy with how it's turned out and am looking
>> forward to producing some quality restored components with it.
>>
>
> Nice results, those of us who actually work on cars know how difficult
> it is to get parts clean and looking like new.

And that's the point of it. Making things look like new.

I see so many restored cars where alloy components look like they've
been bead blasted, which is fine when it comes to making it look
"clean", but it doesn't look original and that's what I'm aiming for.
I'll post some pics when I've had a bit more of a play around with it,
but for now it's proving to be quite a worthwhile exercise.

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On 19/9/21 10:19 am, Daryl wrote:
> On 18/9/21 11:19 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>
>> *Caution: Automotive related post warning*
>>
>> Like most of the rest of the country we here in regional Vic have been
>> in lockdown, and like a lot of people in lockdown I've been inspired
>> to do some of the things I've been meaning to do. Actually, lockdown
>> hasn't made a hell of a lot of difference to me now that I'm fully
>> retired, but I'm using it as an excuse to do a few things I've been
>> meaning to do for a while.
>>
>> One of those things has been to get into Vapor blasting.
>>
>> Vapor blasting, vapor honing, water blasting, wetblasting, whatever
>> you want to call it. The process is basically wet media blasting, with
>> the emphasis being on fine, non destructive finishes on things like
>> cast alloy and zinc for items such as inlet manifolds and carburetors.
>> In applications where you're looking to restore an original cast
>> finish, or prepare a zinc bodied carburetor for recolouring, it's
>> ideal as it produces a near perfect surface finish without casing
>> damage like dry blasting can.
>>
>> There are a few specialist businesses in Melbourne who offer vapor
>> blasting services, but as none of them are anywhere near me and I
>> currently can't get to them anyway I decided to build my own cabinet
>> and see how well it would work.
>>
>> This is it here:
>>
>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NX9H
>>
>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NX9I
>>
>> The cabinet itself started life as a 350 buck "over the counter" dry
>> blasting cabinet that I've modified to run as "wet" machine, which
>> basically meant sealing every possible gap to prevent leaks. In order
>> for the process to work, it needs a supply of a "slurry" of media
>> mixed with water pumped up to a hand-piece that is then hit with high
>> pressure air. The "blasting" process works the same as any
>> conventional dry blaster but with the media suspended in water it
>> provides a softer action that polishes more than bites, and leaves a
>> nice "as new" finish on cast alloy without turning it into a dull
>> chalky finished mess like dry blasting does.
>>
>> As can be seen in the pics, the collapsible motor bike stand
>> underneath the cabinet holds a 30 litre plastic tank which is where
>> the media slurry is kept, and inside this tank is a 240v dirty water
>> pump that both agitates the mix to keep the media suspended in the
>> water, and to pump it up to the gun.
>>
>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NX9L
>>
>> The pump sits freely in the bottom of the cabinet and is held in place
>> by it's own weight on the base of the media tank. It's made that way
>> on purpose so different medias can be used simply by swapping out the
>> tanks. Tank swaps take less than a minute.
>>
>> Using the machine is very easy, and it's controlled by foot switches.
>> Light for the cabinet is supplied by a 24 inch 12v light bar that is
>> driven by a power supply in the electrical cabinet, and is always on
>> when the power is on. The pump is a 240v unit that is controlled by a
>> 12v switched relay that is activated by one of the foot pedals, and a
>> marine bilge fan is plumbed into the back of the cabinet and wired
>> into the pump control circuit so it is activated whenever the pump is
>> running.
>>
>> The other two pedals control the air solenoid valve to supply high
>> pressure air to the gun, and the windscreen wiper that wipes the
>> inside of the cabinet glass. All three pedals are momentary contact
>> types, but thanks to a basic Arduino logic controller and a 4 port
>> relay board they operate as latching switches so you don't have to
>> hold them down.
>>
>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NX9J
>>
>> So, how does it work? Well, for a first attempt that's still being
>> played with I think the results are excellent.
>>
>> This is the machine being used to clean up a Holley float bowl that
>> was pretty grubby to ready it for plating:
>>
>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NXA4
>>
>> And the final result was very satisfying:
>>
>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NXA6
>>
>> The bowl came up like new with zero abrasive damage which is something
>> that usually never happens with these things during a dry blast. Even
>> when using dry soda blasting some of the very fine lettering gets
>> taken off as the case zinc is very fragile, but in this case none of
>> it was damaged at all. This bowl was blasted wet with Soda as the
>> media at 40psi, and it came out clean enough to plate with no other
>> work required.
>>
>> As for cast alloy, a fine glass bead slurry produced the best results.
>>
>> This inlet manifold here is an original Phase I GTHO part that has
>> been sitting for many years after having been dry bead blasted by
>> someone else. As a media ratio test I stuck it in the cabinet and
>> blasted the upper runner that is visibly cleaner in the picture, and
>> although the photo doesn't capture the difference as well as I would
>> have liked the result was quite astounding. The Alloy finish went from
>> a dull, powdery one to as new smooth, and I was very happy with it.
>> The ratio of the water/media slurry was 10:1, with very fine grade
>> glass bead used.
>>
>> To try a mix of different medias on different parts of the same item I
>> used an old alternator:
>>
>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NXAA
>>
>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NXAC
>>
>> This is actually the alternator off my old Mitsubishi Forklift, and as
>> it needed a reco I thought I'd pull it apart and give it some new
>> bearings and brushes and use the cabinet to clean it up as I was doing
>> it. As can be seen it was pretty grubby and discoloured. To clean this
>> up the Stator, Rotor and Regulator pack were blasted with Soda, and
>> the alloy housing with glass bead. It came up like brand new.
>>
>> Playing around a bit further I upped the glass bead to water ratio
>> slightly and tried it out on an old water pump.
>>
>> Before:
>>
>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NXAI
>>
>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NXCJ
>>
>> And after:
>>
>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NXCM
>>
>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NXCP
>>
>> I'm not re-using this water pump and it's going into the scrap bin as
>> it's past it's use-by date, but the purpose of blasting it is to try
>> to get the process to replicate an "as new" finish as close as
>> possible for restoration work, and even though it's still very early
>> days here with this I don't think it's doing a bad job. Here's the
>> blasted water pump compared to a brand new one:
>>
>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NXCT
>>
>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NXCW
>>
>> As you can see there isn't a hell of a lot of difference in it, and
>> it's even less distinguishable to the naked eye.
>>
>> Finally, just as a "fuck around" to see how well it coped with general
>> cleaning, I tried this old rocker cover which was half covered in
>> paint and half in rust. I forgot to take a "before" pic, but the end
>> result was impressive:
>>
>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NXE8
>>
>>> https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME3NXED
>>
>> The total time to do this was under 10 minutes, and while I would
>> normally dry blast something like this to provide a bit of an "etch"
>> to the surface in preparation for painting, the finish on the tin is
>> quite amazing. It's *very* smooth, and surprisingly resistant to
>> rusting like dry blasted metal does as soon as you touch it.
>>
>> In all, I'm quite pleased with the outcome and think the initial
>> results have been excellent. Total cost of the project thus far has
>> run about 700 bucks, and while I'm still sorting out teething problems
>> like minor water leaks and the Arduino PLC being a little unreliable
>> at times I'm very happy with how it's turned out and am looking
>> forward to producing some quality restored components with it.
>>
>
> Nice results, those of us who actually work on cars know how difficult
> it is to get parts clean and looking like new.
>
>
Those of us who work on cars just fix the problems the cars have. Who
gives a shit how the cars look as long as the parts are clean enough so
that contaminants aren't introduced where they can cause damage..


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On 9/19/2021 1:31 AM, Clocky wrote:
> On 18/09/2021 9:19 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>
>> *Caution: Automotive related post warning*
>>
>> Like most of the rest of the country we here in regional Vic have
>> been in lockdown, and like a lot of people in lockdown I've been
>> inspired to do some of the things I've been meaning to do. Actually,
>> lockdown hasn't made a hell of a lot of difference to me now that I'm
>> fully retired, but I'm using it as an excuse to do a few things I've
>> been meaning to do for a while.
>>
>> One of those things has been to get into Vapor blasting.
>>
>
> <snip wank>
>
> Here it is:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6adoMU90Pgc

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 As per,  ticcy`s attempt at a put down backfires.. Noddy`s build and
the other blokes description of operating procedure actually *complement
each other* very well.

                   Tough titty ticcy....:):):)

>
>
>

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 by: jonz - Sun, 19 Sep 2021 02:10 UTC

On 9/19/2021 7:32 AM, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 19/09/2021 1:31 am, Clocky wrote:
>> On 18/09/2021 9:19 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>
>>> *Caution: Automotive related post warning*
>>>
>>> Like most of the rest of the country we here in regional Vic have
>>> been in lockdown, and like a lot of people in lockdown I've been
>>> inspired to do some of the things I've been meaning to do. Actually,
>>> lockdown hasn't made a hell of a lot of difference to me now that
>>> I'm fully retired, but I'm using it as an excuse to do a few things
>>> I've been meaning to do for a while.
>>>
>>> One of those things has been to get into Vapor blasting.
>>>
>>
>> <snip wank>
>>
>> Here it is:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6adoMU90Pgc
>>
>>
>
> I couldn't be bothered reading the OP. are you saying this unit he's
> claiming to have built is really just an 'off the shelf' item?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 You *can`t be bothered*?, well get *bothered* or shut the fuck up, you
trolling cunt!.

>
>

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difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of
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 by: Noddy - Sun, 19 Sep 2021 02:21 UTC

On 19/09/2021 12:10 pm, jonz wrote:
> On 9/19/2021 7:32 AM, Yosemite Sam wrote:

>>
>> I couldn't be bothered reading the OP. are you saying this unit he's
>> claiming to have built is really just an 'off the shelf' item?
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>  You *can`t be bothered*?, well get *bothered* or shut the fuck up, you
> trolling cunt!.

Isn't that just *so* typical of Felix? He'll whinge and be critical of
something he knows absolutely *nothing* about for no reason other than
he's too fucking lazy to educate himself.

That's the hallmark of a retard right there..... :)

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Regards,
Noddy.

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 by: Xeno - Sun, 19 Sep 2021 05:26 UTC

On 19/9/21 7:19 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 19/09/2021 6:07 am, Mountain Magpie wrote:
>> On Sat, 18 Sep 2021 23:19:34 +1000, Noddy posted:-
>>
>>> *Caution: Automotive related post warning*
>> Stop right there!
>>
>> You need to take a Bex, a cup of tea, and have a good lie down!
>>
>
> someone is showing their age. recent generations have never heard of bex.
>
>
I must be old then. Bex were the headache pill of choice back when I was
a wee tacker.

--

Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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 by: Yosemite Sam - Sun, 19 Sep 2021 05:40 UTC

On 19/09/2021 3:26 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 19/9/21 7:19 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 19/09/2021 6:07 am, Mountain Magpie wrote:
>>> On Sat, 18 Sep 2021 23:19:34 +1000, Noddy posted:-
>>>
>>>> *Caution: Automotive related post warning*
>>> Stop right there!
>>>
>>> You need to take a Bex, a cup of tea, and have a good lie down!
>>>
>>
>> someone is showing their age. recent generations have never heard of
>> bex.
>>
>>
> I must be old then. Bex were the headache pill of choice back when I
> was a wee tacker.
>

you are old!  :)  btw, bex a compound analgesic, was banned in 1979
after such medications were linked to kidney disease.

--
"A mans got to know his limitations"
- clint Eastwood as Dirty Harry

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 by: Xeno - Sun, 19 Sep 2021 07:08 UTC

On 19/9/21 12:21 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 19/09/2021 12:10 pm, jonz wrote:
>> On 9/19/2021 7:32 AM, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>
>>>
>>> I couldn't be bothered reading the OP. are you saying this unit he's
>>> claiming to have built is really just an 'off the shelf' item?
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>   You *can`t be bothered*?, well get *bothered* or shut the fuck up,
>> you trolling cunt!.
>
> Isn't that just *so* typical of Felix? He'll whinge and be critical of
> something he knows absolutely *nothing* about for no reason other than
> he's too fucking lazy to educate himself.

You? Educate someone? hahahahaha. You couldn't even *get* an education
when you were in secondary school.
>
> That's the hallmark of a retard right there..... :)

The retard is you Darren.

--

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(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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On 19/09/2021 3:26 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 19/9/21 7:19 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 19/09/2021 6:07 am, Mountain Magpie wrote:
>>> On Sat, 18 Sep 2021 23:19:34 +1000, Noddy posted:-
>>>
>>>> *Caution: Automotive related post warning*
>>> Stop right there!
>>>
>>> You need to take a Bex, a cup of tea, and have a good lie down!
>>>
>>
>> someone is showing their age. recent generations have never heard of bex.
>>
>>
> I must be old then. Bex were the headache pill of choice back when I was
> a wee tacker.
>
Bex was a powder.

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 by: Xeno - Sun, 19 Sep 2021 07:18 UTC

On 19/9/21 5:10 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 19/09/2021 3:26 pm, Xeno wrote:
>> On 19/9/21 7:19 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 19/09/2021 6:07 am, Mountain Magpie wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 18 Sep 2021 23:19:34 +1000, Noddy posted:-
>>>>
>>>>> *Caution: Automotive related post warning*
>>>> Stop right there!
>>>>
>>>> You need to take a Bex, a cup of tea, and have a good lie down!
>>>>
>>>
>>> someone is showing their age. recent generations have never heard of
>>> bex.
>>>
>>>
>> I must be old then. Bex were the headache pill of choice back when I
>> was a wee tacker.
>>
> Bex  was a powder.

You are correct. I was given it dissolved in water, if memory serves.

--

Xeno

Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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 by: Yosemite Sam - Sun, 19 Sep 2021 07:50 UTC

On 19/09/2021 5:10 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 19/09/2021 3:26 pm, Xeno wrote:
>> On 19/9/21 7:19 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 19/09/2021 6:07 am, Mountain Magpie wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 18 Sep 2021 23:19:34 +1000, Noddy posted:-
>>>>
>>>>> *Caution: Automotive related post warning*
>>>> Stop right there!
>>>>
>>>> You need to take a Bex, a cup of tea, and have a good lie down!
>>>>
>>>
>>> someone is showing their age. recent generations have never heard of
>>> bex.
>>>
>>>
>> I must be old then. Bex were the headache pill of choice back when I
>> was a wee tacker.
>>
> Bex  was a powder.

yes in a paper wrapper

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"A mans got to know his limitations"
- clint Eastwood as Dirty Harry

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On 19/09/2021 5:18 pm, Xeno wrote:
> On 19/9/21 5:10 pm, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 19/09/2021 3:26 pm, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 19/9/21 7:19 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
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>>>>> Stop right there!
>>>>>
>>>>> You need to take a Bex, a cup of tea, and have a good lie down!
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>>>>
>>>> someone is showing their age. recent generations have never heard of
>>>> bex.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I must be old then. Bex were the headache pill of choice back when I
>>> was a wee tacker.
>>>
>> Bex  was a powder.
>
> You are correct. I was given it dissolved in water, if memory serves.
>
I was once in a taxi the driver of which swallowed a bex powder dry,
nearly made me wretch.

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 by: Noddy - Sun, 19 Sep 2021 09:39 UTC

On 19/09/2021 5:10 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 19/09/2021 3:26 pm, Xeno wrote:
>> On 19/9/21 7:19 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>>> On 19/09/2021 6:07 am, Mountain Magpie wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 18 Sep 2021 23:19:34 +1000, Noddy posted:-
>>>>
>>>>> *Caution: Automotive related post warning*
>>>> Stop right there!
>>>>
>>>> You need to take a Bex, a cup of tea, and have a good lie down!
>>>>
>>>
>>> someone is showing their age. recent generations have never heard of
>>> bex.
>>>
>>>
>> I must be old then. Bex were the headache pill of choice back when I
>> was a wee tacker.
>>
> Bex  was a powder.

It was also available in tablet form I believe.

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Regards,
Noddy.

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