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 by: Phil Allison - Thu, 17 Feb 2022 00:51 UTC

Rod Speedbot CRIMIANL LIAR !!! wrote:

=============================

" What would be the basis for the government paying his damages
then, if he did lose? "

>>
> >> >> That he was just doing his job.
> >>
> >> > What an ABSURD FUCKING LIE
> >>
> >> > Defaming people
> >>
> >> He didn't defame anyone,
>
> > Not the question
>
> Corse it is.

** ROTFLMAO - wot a DROP DEAD LIAR !!!

Can he even see the question - up top there ??

> > > is NOT part of his " job "
>
> > So *defaming* people IS part a premier's job ???
>
> Stating the facts about Palmer

** Not the question - you LYING POS

FYI imbecile:

It's always the " defamatory imputations " that DO the damage.
====================

Low IQ, autistic retards like Rodbot have not a single fucking idea at all.

...... Phil

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 17 Feb 2022 02:13 UTC

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Lewis Hamilton <hami@f1.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote

>>>>>>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-16/defamation-trial-clive-palmer-mark-mcgowan-enters-third-day/100830498

>>>>>>> WA Premier Mark McGowan is being sued by Clive Palmer for
>>>>>>> defamation.
>>
>>>>>> Palmer sues everyone and looses EVERY TIME.
>>
>>>>> Fatty McFuckhead's arguments so far don't seem very convincing. I
>>>>> expect
>>>>> the judge will not only decide against him, but tell him he is
>>>>> wasting
>>>>> the court's time with his bullshit.
>>
>>>> Yeah, thats the result he always gets.
>>
>>>> Even if some fuckwit of a judge does decide
>>>> he has been defamed so that an appeal can
>>>> not succeed, it will be derisory damages.
>>
>>> Then somebody who makes a lot of sense comes along
>>
>> That has never happened with Palmer. That
>> fuckwit has never made any sense what so ever.

> You listened to his video or anything he has come up with?

Yep, its all mindless shit.

> Or just slanted by watching fake news?

Dont watch any news at all anymore, use the
ABC Just In text news and the BBC RSS feed.

>>> and "voters" plug
>>> their ears going blah, blah, blah, to stop hearing what is said, to
>>> remain ignorant.
>>
>>> But do keep reading your leftie media journo fuckwits!
>>> They are now most voters bible.
>>
>> Most dont take any notice of any media with political issues.

> Beliveve the media put in Whitlam

Nope, he just looked more viable than the useless by then coalition and
then he proved in spades how useless he was and got the bums rush.

> then after Rupert got him in,

Bullshit he did.

> Rupert was pissed when Gough told him tofuck off, Ruperts media then
> took him out.

More mindless bullshit. Whitless pulled the plug on himself
and then the voters decided he had passed his useby data.

> Rupert also took Rudd and Gillard out,

More mindless bullshit. The dud took himself out.

Gillard never had a majority and she took herself out
buy stupidly agreeing to go if her own party wouldnt
vote for her to stay. And then the assassin appealed
to the voters even less than Gillard did and pulled the
plug on Labor.

Same with Beastly, he tried a very low profile
and the voters flushed him where he belongs.

They will with Albo too if he is stupid
enough to keep trying that line.

>>> They are rubishing Clive Palmer for one.

>> And are quite right to do that, because he is
>> just as useless a fucking moron as Hanson.

>>> So probably on the right track and voters on the wrong one?

>> Not a chance.

> You so sure?

Yep. Got fuck all MPs elected, was completely useless himself.

> But I don't vote for him or his party

Neither did enough voters to matter.

> but give him more credit than
> most others.

More fool you. He is an even bigger fool than that fool Hanson.

> Palmer is just a funnel for the Liberals, Palmers
> preferences make them kind to Palmer.

They never did anything like that.

>>> Bet Pauline Hanson can at least mow a lawn, which more than any other
>>> politician capable of!

>> Dont buy that and we don't have pollys to mow our lawns anyway.

Palmer couldn't even manage to waddle around a lawn behind a mower.

> My point is they including Hanson are just tax paid for snouts and
> trotters feeding in the trough, for many even that is not enough, They
> are useless at everything,
> <https://www.michaelwest.com.au/barnaby-joyce-80m-valuation-discrepancy/>

His voters clearly feel otherwise. THATS what matters.

>>> When farmers were in drought had to kill livestock she organized and
>>> drove with many, many trucks carrying convoys of hay
>>> <https://twitter.com/paulinehansonoz/status/835616684698447872>

>> Just another polly jumping on a bandwagon.

> The fakenews did not report it!

No point in reporting just another stupid polly stunt.

Same with out Shooters, Fishers and Farmers silly cow.
All she ever does is pose in front of stuff for a photo.

>>> Clive Palmer on Chinese, Nuclear subs and more!
>>> <https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/politics/peter-gleeson-speaks-with-clive-palmer/video/053edecd15ac8f6136d0f909af31e58c>
>>> or https://t.ly/bqza
>>> “Where else would you want to berth?”

>> Just more mindless and irrelevant bullshit from Palmer.

>> He wont even manage to get a single MP elected, you watch.

> His Craig Kelly preferences to Liberal count, giving Palmer the ear,

Bullshit.

> without these Albo becomes more likley the PM.

More bullshit. Albo hasnt got a hope in hell, you watch.

>>> That’s Sydney Superyacht Marina manager Clemens Overdijk’s take on the
>>> spot mining billionaire Clive Palmer is paying an estimated $3000 a
>>> day to park his 56-metre boat, Australia, while participating in a
>>> Federal Court stoush with Western Australian Premier Mark McGowan.

>>> The mooring, at Campbells Cove, is right outside the Park Hyatt Hotel
>>> and offers unobstructed views to the Sydney Opera House.
>>> Mr Overdijk said the financial impact of Mr Palmer’s yacht was about
>>> $10,000 a day, including daily flower costs of $2000 and a further
>>> $5000 for food.

>> Where are the frog saboteurs when you need them ?

> Working for Palmer?

Nope, gunning down terrorists in Paris etc.

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 17 Feb 2022 02:17 UTC

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

> " What would be the basis for the government paying his damages
> then, if he did lose? "

>> >> >> That he was just doing his job.
>> >>
>> >> > What an ABSURD FUCKING LIE
>> >>
>> >> > Defaming people
>> >>
>> >> He didn't defame anyone,
>>
>> > Not the question
>>
>> Corse it is.

> Can he even see the question - up top there ??

Yep, the only possible damages are for DEFAMATION, fuckwit.

>> > > is NOT part of his " job "
>>
>> > So *defaming* people IS part a premier's job ???
>>
>> Stating the facts about Palmer

> FYI imbecile:

> It's always the " defamatory imputations " that DO the damage.
> ====================

You previously stupidly claimed it isnt about defamation, fuckwit.

No surprise that you have always been a completely unemployable dole
bludger.

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 by: Phil Allison - Thu, 17 Feb 2022 02:26 UTC

Rod Speedbot CONGENITAL LIAR & ARSEHOLE

======================================
Max asked:
>
> > " What would be the basis for the government paying his damages
> > then, if he did lose? "
>
> >> >> >> That he was just doing his job.
> >> >>
> >> >> > What an ABSURD FUCKING LIE
> >> >>
> >> >> > Defaming people
> >> >>
> >> >> He didn't defame anyone,
> >>
> >> > Not the question
> >>
> >> Corse it is.
>>
> > Can he even see the question - up top there ??
>
> Yep, the only possible damages are for DEFAMATION,

** NOT THE QUESTION YOU STINKING LIAR !!!!!!!
======================================

>
> >> > So *defaming* people IS part a premier's job ???
>
> > FYI imbecile:
>
> > It's always the " defamatory imputations " that DO the damage.
> > =================================================
>
> You previously stupidly claimed it isnt about defamation,

** ROTFLMAO !!!

The Rodbot IMBECILE is turning in tiny circles, waving it's arms about and spewing putrid crap.

All the stinking pile of shit is good for.

....... Phil

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 17 Feb 2022 03:32 UTC

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max wrote

<reams of FilthyShit flushed where it belongs>

>> > " What would be the basis for the government paying his damages
>> > then, if he did lose? "
>>
>> >> >> >> That he was just doing his job.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > What an ABSURD FUCKING LIE
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Defaming people
>> >> >>
>> >> >> He didn't defame anyone,
>> >>
>> >> > Not the question
>> >>
>> >> Corse it is.
>>>
>> > Can he even see the question - up top there ??
>>
>> Yep, the only possible damages are for DEFAMATION,
>>
>> >> > So *defaming* people IS part a premier's job ???
>>
>> > FYI imbecile:
>>
>> > It's always the " defamatory imputations " that DO the damage.
>> > =================================================
>>
>> You previously stupidly claimed it isnt about defamation,

Whoops, nothing left, wota surprise.

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Rod Speedbot CONGENITAL LIAR & ARSEHOLE
======================================
>
Max asked:
>
> > " What would be the basis for the government paying his damages
> > then, if he did lose? "
>
> >> >> >> That he was just doing his job.
> >> >>
> >> >> > What an ABSURD FUCKING LIE
> >> >>
> >> >> > Defaming people
> >> >>
> >> >> He didn't defame anyone,
> >>
> >> > Not the question
> >>
> >> Corse it is.
>>
> > Can he even see the question - up top there ??
>
> Yep, the only possible damages are for DEFAMATION,

** NOT THE QUESTION YOU STINKING LIAR !!!!!!!
======================================

> >> > So *defaming* people IS part a premier's job ???
>
> > FYI imbecile:
>
> > It's always the " defamatory imputations " that DO the damage.
> > =================================================
>
> You previously stupidly claimed it isnt about defamation,

** ROTFLMAO !!!

The Rodbot IMBECILE is turning in tiny circles, waving it's arms about and spewing putrid crap.

All the stinking pile of shit is good for.

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 17 Feb 2022 04:41 UTC

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

<reams of FilthyShit flushed where it belongs>

Whoops, nothing left, wota surprise.

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 17 Feb 2022 05:49 UTC

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>>> You listened to his video or anything he has come up with?

>> Yep, its all mindless shit.

>>> Or just slanted by watching fake news?

>> Dont watch any news at all anymore, use the
>> ABC Just In text news and the BBC RSS feed.

> You are being owned

Nope, I don't ever read the stupid opinion pieces.

> defund the ABC

No thanks, by far the best source of news.

> The ABC are not reporting that President Trump was right

Because that fool was never right in his entire lying 'life'

> Durham report a few days ago

Just more mindless shit.

> https://www.foxnews.com/media/media-ignores-durham-after-years-of-pushing-russiagate
> https://t.ly/PLuy

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Rod Speed wrote:
Petzl
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>
> >>> Or just slanted by watching fake news?
>
> >> Dont watch any news at all anymore, use the
> >> ABC Just In text news and the BBC RSS feed.
>
> > You are being owned defund the ABC
>
> No thanks, by far the best source of news.
>

** The ABC is easily the *worst source* for news and reporting of current issues.

Only loony lefty viewers and listeners are catered for - by professional loony lefties.
Vile people, all virtue signalling like crazy.
Look who the chair ( woman ) is .... an 80 year old has been that never was.

...... Phil

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 17 Feb 2022 08:20 UTC

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Petzl wrote

>>>>> Or just slanted by watching fake news?

>>>> Dont watch any news at all anymore, use the
>>>> ABC Just In text news and the BBC RSS feed.

>>> You are being owned defund the ABC

>> No thanks, by far the best source of news.

> The ABC is easily the *worst source* for news and reporting of current
> issues.

Then what do you claim is the best ?

> Look who the chair ( woman ) is .... an 80 year old has been that never
> was.

Irrelevant to ABC Just In. She isnt involved with that at all.

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 17 Feb 2022 08:28 UTC

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Petzl wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
<<>>> Petzl wrote

>>>>>> Or just slanted by watching fake news?

>>>>> Dont watch any news at all anymore, use the
>>>>> ABC Just In text news and the BBC RSS feed.

>>>> You are being owned defund the ABC

>>> No thanks, by far the best source of news.

>> The ABC is easily the *worst source* for newsand reporting of current
>> issues.

Have fun listing the best.

>> Only loony lefty viewers and listeners are catered for - by
>> professional loony lefties.
>> Vile people, all virtue signalling like crazy.

>> Look who the chair ( woman ) is .... an 80 year old has been that
>> never was.

> Yes they have been riding anti-Trump bull all the time

Trump was always a useless fuckwit and eventually
even the US voters managed to work that out.

> Now that Special Counsel for the United States John Durham has managed
> to investigate the Democrats he has found that Trump was spied on by
> the FBI even while in office.

They always have done.

> This is worse than Watergate.

Bullshit.

> But the fakenews media which has control of Rod Speed's mind

More bullshit.

> are not mentioning it.

Because its bullshit and lies.

> The sentence for treason in US is death by hanging

Wrong, as always.

> Judging and
> sentencing will be done by Congress, the "Fall guys" are dobbing
> Obama, Clinton's their lawyers in with evidence.

More bullshit.

> <https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-really-was-spied-on-2016-clinton-campaign-john-durham-court-filing-11644878973?mod=opinion_lead_pos1>
> https://t.ly/ul1p

> Trump Really Was Spied On

More bullshit.

> Durham says techies linked to the Clinton campaign had access to White
> House and Trump Tower internet data.
> Special Counsel John Durham continues to unravel the Trump-Russia
> “collusion” story, and his latest court disclosure contains startling
> information. According to a Friday court filing, the 2016 Hillary
> Clinton campaign effort to compile dirt on Donald Trump reached into
> protected White House communications.

Nothing new about that.

> The filing relates to Mr. Durham’s September indictment of Michael
> Sussmann, a lawyer who represented the Clinton campaign while he
> worked for the Perkins Coie law firm. Mr. Sussmann is accused of lying
> to the FBI at a September 2016 meeting when he presented documents
> claiming to show secret internet communications between the Trump
> Organization and Russia-based Alfa Bank. The indictment says Mr.
> Sussmann falsely told the FBI he was presenting this information
> solely as a good citizen—failing to disclose his ties to the Clinton
> campaign. (He has pleaded not guilty.)

Whoopy fucking do.

The majority of the voters flushed Trump where he belongs.

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Rod Speed Explains where he plaigerises his INSANE VIEWS
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** The FUCKING GREEN MARTIAN INFESTED ABC !!!!!!!!!!!
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> >>> You are being owned defund the ABC
>
> >> No thanks, by far the best source of news.
> > The ABC is easily the *worst source* for news and reporting of current
> > issues.
<
> > Look who the chair ( woman ) is .... an 80 year old has been that never
> > was.
>
> Irrelevant to ABC Just In. She isnt involved with that at all.

** Like fucking hell the old hag isn't.

..... Phil

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 17 Feb 2022 08:38 UTC

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

Noted that you never did say what the best source of news is.

>>>>> You are being owned defund the ABC

>>>> No thanks, by far the best source of news.

>>> The ABC is easily the *worst source* for news and reporting of current
>>> issues.

>>> Look who the chair ( woman ) is .... an 80 year old has been that
>> never
>> > was.

>> Irrelevant to ABC Just In. She isnt involved with that at all.

<reams of FilthyShit flushed where it belongs>

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 by: Max - Thu, 17 Feb 2022 08:49 UTC

On 16/02/2022 3:51 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
> Max wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The WA govt isnt his employer.
>>>
>> The premier receives a salary from the WA govt.
>
> ** Like all *elected* officials - he gets an "allowance" determined by a tribunal.
>
> He is not answerable to anyone nor does he have to earn it.
> Cos he ain't no fucking employee.
>

That's like saying a director of a company who receives runumeration is
not an employee of the company. It's a pointless distinction.

Companies can be vicariously liable for the actions of their directors,
yet the directors would not be "employees" in your eyes.

>
>>> Nope, he isnt a subordinate of the govt. But yes, because he is
>>> the PM, the WA govt would be paying any damages.
>
> ** Doubt that - he was not covered by "privilege" at the time/s.
>
> Liability for defamation applies to the originating party and any parties who publish it.
>
>
>
> ..... Phil
>
>

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 17 Feb 2022 09:46 UTC

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> Petzl wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>> <<>>> Petzl wrote

>>>>>>>> Or just slanted by watching fake news?

>>>>>>> Dont watch any news at all anymore, use the
>>>>>>> ABC Just In text news and the BBC RSS feed.

>>>>>> You are being owned defund the ABC

>>>>> No thanks, by far the best source of news.

>>>> The ABC is easily the *worst source* for newsand reporting of current
>>>> issues.

>> Have fun listing the best.

> Those that allow comments,

I dont give a shit about comments by fools.

> even the Telegraph if they don't allow
> reasonable comments they are rubbish

Bullshit.

>>> <https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-really-was-spied-on-2016-clinton-campaign-john-durham-court-filing-11644878973?mod=opinion_lead_pos1>
>>> https://t.ly/ul1p

>>> Trump Really Was Spied On

>> More bullshit.

>> Whoopy fucking do.

>> The majority of the voters flushed Trump where he belongs.

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 17 Feb 2022 09:49 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Phil Allison wrote
>> Max wrote:
>> Rod Speed wrote:

>>>> The WA govt isnt his employer.

>>> The premier receives a salary from the WA govt.

>> Like all *elected* officials - he gets an "allowance" determined
>> by a tribunal.

>> He is not answerable to anyone nor does he have to earn it.
>> Cos he ain't no fucking employee.

> That's like saying a director of a company who receives runumeration is
> not an employee of the company.

Nothing like in fact.

> It's a pointless distinction.

More mindless pig ignorant bullshit with state premiers, MPs,
governors, the GG and the Queen. NONE of those are employees.

> Companies can be vicariously liable for the actions of their directors,
> yet the directors would not be "employees" in your eyes.

Irrelevant to state premiers, MPs, governors, the GG and the Queen.

>>>> Nope, he isnt a subordinate of the govt. But yes, because he is
>>>> the PM, the WA govt would be paying any damages.

>> Doubt that - he was not covered by "privilege" at the time/s.

>> Liability for defamation applies to the originating party and any
>> parties who publish it.

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 by: Phil Allison - Thu, 17 Feb 2022 10:44 UTC

Max posted MORE vile shit:
=================

> >
> > ** Like all *elected* officials - he gets an "allowance" determined by a tribunal.
> >
> > He is not answerable to anyone nor does he have to earn it.
> > Cos he ain't no fucking employee.
> >
>
> That's like saying a director of a company who receives runumeration is
> not an employee of the company.

** Directors are NOT not employees.
They are elected members of a board.

> Companies can be vicariously liable for the actions of their directors,

** Decisions are not made by individuals.
If a board member committed defamation, or another offence, the onus is on that person.

The whole idea of "vicarious" is 1000 miles outside your tiny, fucked wog brain.

...... Phil

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 by: Max - Fri, 18 Feb 2022 03:35 UTC

On 17/02/2022 8:49 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>> Phil Allison wrote
>>> Max wrote:
>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>
>>>>> The WA govt isnt his employer.
>
>>>> The premier receives a salary from the WA govt.
>
>>>  Like all  *elected*  officials -  he gets an  "allowance" determined
>>> by a tribunal.
>
>>>       He is not answerable to anyone nor does he have to earn it.
>>>      Cos he ain't no fucking employee.
>
>> That's like saying a director of a company who receives runumeration
>> is not an employee of the company.
>
> Nothing like in fact.
>
>> It's a pointless distinction.
>
> More mindless pig ignorant bullshit with state premiers, MPs,
> governors, the GG and the Queen. NONE of those are employees.
>
>> Companies can be vicariously liable for the actions of their
>> directors, yet the directors would not be "employees" in your eyes.
>
> Irrelevant to state premiers, MPs, governors, the GG and the Queen.
>

And if those people did something in the course of doing their job which
resulted in being sued, then the government would pay for the damages.

This is because they are doing job, for which they are being
remunerated, which is the same as being employed.

>>>>> Nope, he isnt a subordinate of the govt. But yes, because he is
>>>>> the PM, the WA govt would be paying any damages.
>
>>>  Doubt that  -  he was not covered by "privilege"  at the time/s.
>
>>>  Liability for defamation applies to the originating party and any
>>> parties who publish it.

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 by: Rod Speed - Fri, 18 Feb 2022 08:26 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>> Max wrote:
>>>> Rod Speed wrote:

>>>>>> The WA govt isnt his employer.

>>>>> The premier receives a salary from the WA govt.

>>>> Like all *elected* officials - he gets an "allowance" determined
>>>> by a tribunal.

>>>> He is not answerable to anyone nor does he have to earn it.
>>>> Cos he ain't no fucking employee.

>>> That's like saying a director of a company who receives runumeration
>>> is not an employee of the company.

>> Nothing like in fact.

>>> It's a pointless distinction.

>> More mindless pig ignorant bullshit with state premiers, MPs,
>> governors, the GG and the Queen. NONE of those are employees.

>>> Companies can be vicariously liable for the actions of their
>>> directors, yet the directors would not be "employees" in your eyes.

>> Irrelevant to state premiers, MPs, governors, the GG and the Queen.

> And if those people did something in the course of doing their job which
> resulted in being sued, then the government would pay for the damages.

Being sued isn't the same thing as being guilty of anything, stupid.

> This is because they are doing job, for which they are being
> remunerated, which is the same as being employed.

Wrong, as always, with state premiers, MPs, governors, the GG and the
Queen.

>>>>>> Nope, he isnt a subordinate of the govt. But yes, because he is
>>>>>> the PM, the WA govt would be paying any damages.

>>>> Doubt that - he was not covered by "privilege" at the time/s.

>>>> Liability for defamation applies to the originating party and any
>>>> parties who publish it.

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 by: Max - Sat, 19 Feb 2022 01:51 UTC

On 18/02/2022 7:26 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>>> Max wrote:
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>
>>>>>>> The WA govt isnt his employer.
>
>>>>>> The premier receives a salary from the WA govt.
>
>>>>>  Like all  *elected*  officials -  he gets an  "allowance"
>>>>> determined by a tribunal.
>
>>>>>       He is not answerable to anyone nor does he have to earn it.
>>>>>      Cos he ain't no fucking employee.
>
>>>> That's like saying a director of a company who receives runumeration
>>>> is not an employee of the company.
>
>>>  Nothing like in fact.
>
>>>> It's a pointless distinction.
>
>>>  More mindless pig ignorant bullshit with state premiers, MPs,
>>> governors, the GG and the Queen. NONE of those are employees.
>
>>>> Companies can be vicariously liable for the actions of their
>>>> directors, yet the directors would not be "employees" in your eyes.
>
>>>  Irrelevant to state premiers, MPs, governors, the GG and the Queen.
>
>> And if those people did something in the course of doing their job
>> which resulted in being sued, then the government would pay for the
>> damages.
>
> Being sued isn't the same thing as being guilty of anything, stupid.
>

If there is damages awarded against the office holder, then if the
government pays for that, they are taking liablity for the actions of
the office holder.

It's the same as if it was an employer being vicariously liable for an
employee.

>> This is because they are doing job, for which they are being
>> remunerated, which is the same as being employed.
>
> Wrong, as always, with state premiers, MPs, governors, the GG and the
> Queen.
>
>>>>>>> Nope, he isnt a subordinate of the govt. But yes, because he is
>>>>>>> the PM, the WA govt would be paying any damages.
>
>>>>>  Doubt that  -  he was not covered by "privilege"  at the time/s.
>
>>>>>  Liability for defamation applies to the originating party and any
>>>>> parties who publish it.

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Max needs to got and get fucked:
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>
> > Being sued isn't the same thing as being guilty of anything, stupid.
> >
> If there is damages awarded against the office holder, then if the
> government pays for that, they are taking liablity for the actions of
> the office holder.
>
** Putrid, verbal diarrhoea.

> It's the same as if it was an employer being vicariously liable for an
> employee.

** One cannot choose to be "liable".
Courts decide that issue based on many factors.

The whole idea of "vicarious liability " is 1000 miles outside your tiny, fucked wog brain.

...... Phil

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 by: Rod Speed - Sat, 19 Feb 2022 03:16 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>>>> Max wrote:
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:

>>>>>>>> The WA govt isnt his employer.

>>>>>>> The premier receives a salary from the WA govt.

>>>>>> Like all *elected* officials - he gets an "allowance"
>>>>>> determined by a tribunal.

>>>>>> He is not answerable to anyone nor does he have to earn it.
>>>>>> Cos he ain't no fucking employee.

>>>>> That's like saying a director of a company who receives runumeration
>>>>> is not an employee of the company.

>>>> Nothing like in fact.

>>>>> It's a pointless distinction.

>>>> More mindless pig ignorant bullshit with state premiers, MPs,
>>>> governors, the GG and the Queen. NONE of those are employees.

>>>>> Companies can be vicariously liable for the actions of their
>>>>> directors, yet the directors would not be "employees" in your eyes.

>>>> Irrelevant to state premiers, MPs, governors, the GG and the Queen.

>>> And if those people did something in the course of doing their job
>>> which resulted in being sued, then the government would pay for the
>>> damages.

>> Being sued isn't the same thing as being guilty of anything, stupid.

> If there is damages awarded against the office holder, then if the
> government pays for that, they are taking liablity for the actions of
> the office holder.

No liability involved. They are paying for the activitys that
individual is involved in just like they are when they pay
for their air fares, hotel bills, taxi fares etc etc etc.

> It's the same as if it was an employer being vicariously liable for an
> employee.

Wrong, as always. Nothing whatever to do with virarioius liability.

>>> This is because they are doing job, for which they are being
>>> remunerated, which is the same as being employed.

>> Wrong, as always, with state premiers, MPs, governors, the GG and the
>> Queen.

>>>>>>>> Nope, he isnt a subordinate of the govt. But yes, because he is
>>>>>>>> the PM, the WA govt would be paying any damages.

>>>>>> Doubt that - he was not covered by "privilege" at the time/s.

>>>>>> Liability for defamation applies to the originating party and any
>>>>>> parties who publish it.

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 by: Max - Sat, 19 Feb 2022 22:28 UTC

On 19/02/2022 2:16 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>>>>> Max wrote:
>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>> The WA govt isnt his employer.
>
>>>>>>>> The premier receives a salary from the WA govt.
>
>>>>>>>  Like all  *elected*  officials -  he gets an  "allowance"
>>>>>>> determined by a tribunal.
>
>>>>>>>       He is not answerable to anyone nor does he have to earn it.
>>>>>>>      Cos he ain't no fucking employee.
>
>>>>>> That's like saying a director of a company who receives
>>>>>> runumeration is not an employee of the company.
>
>>>>>  Nothing like in fact.
>
>>>>>> It's a pointless distinction.
>
>>>>>  More mindless pig ignorant bullshit with state premiers, MPs,
>>>>> governors, the GG and the Queen. NONE of those are employees.
>
>>>>>> Companies can be vicariously liable for the actions of their
>>>>>> directors, yet the directors would not be "employees" in your eyes.
>
>>>>>  Irrelevant to state premiers, MPs, governors, the GG and the Queen.
>
>>>> And if those people did something in the course of doing their job
>>>> which resulted in being sued, then the government would pay for the
>>>> damages.
>
>>>  Being sued isn't the same thing as being guilty of anything, stupid.
>
>> If there is damages awarded against the office holder, then if the
>> government pays for that, they are taking liablity for the actions of
>> the office holder.
>
> No liability involved. They are paying for the activitys that
> individual is involved in just like they are when they pay
> for their air fares, hotel bills, taxi fares etc etc etc.
>

So if the office holder did something wrong like assault someone or
damage property, would the government pay those expenses?

The government is not going to pay for any court awarded damages that
the office holder is responsible for, otherwise being a Premier would
give you free reign to do whatever you want.

The only things that the government will pay for are things that fall
within the remit of the office holder's role, which is exactly the same
as vicarious liability in an employment situation.

>> It's the same as if it was an employer being vicariously liable for an
>> employee.
>
> Wrong, as always. Nothing whatever to do with virarioius liability.
>
>>>> This is because they are doing job, for which they are being
>>>> remunerated, which is the same as being employed.
>
>>>  Wrong, as always, with state premiers, MPs, governors, the GG and
>>> the Queen.
>
>>>>>>>>> Nope, he isnt a subordinate of the govt. But yes, because he is
>>>>>>>>> the PM, the WA govt would be paying any damages.
>
>>>>>>>  Doubt that  -  he was not covered by "privilege"  at the time/s.
>
>>>>>>>  Liability for defamation applies to the originating party and
>>>>>>> any parties who publish it.

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 by: Max - Sat, 19 Feb 2022 22:36 UTC

On 19/02/2022 1:22 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
> Max needs to got and get fucked:
> ===========================
>>
>>> Being sued isn't the same thing as being guilty of anything, stupid.
>>>
>> If there is damages awarded against the office holder, then if the
>> government pays for that, they are taking liablity for the actions of
>> the office holder.
>>
> ** Putrid, verbal diarrhoea.
>
>> It's the same as if it was an employer being vicariously liable for an
>> employee.
>
> ** One cannot choose to be "liable".
> Courts decide that issue based on many factors.
>

If the government did not pay for damages awarded against the Premier,
then the Premier could take the matter to court.

The court would then apply the same analysis as it would in an
employment vicarious liability case, in the sense that if it was deemed
that the Premier was "on a frolic of their own", then he wouldn't be
covered by the government.

> The whole idea of "vicarious liability " is 1000 miles outside your tiny, fucked wog brain.
>
>
>
> ..... Phil
>

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 by: Phil Allison - Sat, 19 Feb 2022 23:43 UTC

Max is a Wog Robot.

===============
>
> The only things that the government will pay for are things that fall
> within the remit of the office holder's role,

** The're are no such things.
You FUCKING MORON

There is NO employee / employer relationship, essential for " vicarious" to exist.
The state govt did not elect the Premier, cannot sack him and does not direct him.

FOAD you MORON

...... Phil


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