Hi,

the main Mascot N-S runway is being renovated, an area about 100m square at the North end. Near Tempe.

The decision is that jet planes cannot land across the works for four months - but they can take off across them. They are doing so now.

https://www.sydneyairport.com.au/corporate/planning-and-projects/runway-resurfacing

Wot if a BIG jet a has to abort a take off ?

Workmen scatter ?

...... Phil

On 4/08/2021 2:26 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
> Hi,
>
> the main Mascot N-S runway is being renovated, an area about 100m square at the North end. Near Tempe.
>
> The decision is that jet planes cannot land across the works for four months - but they can take off across them. They are doing so now.
>
> https://www.sydneyairport.com.au/corporate/planning-and-projects/runway-resurfacing
>
> Wot if a BIG jet a has to abort a take off ?
>
> Workmen scatter ?

NOTAM H4104/21: Sydney Kingsford Smith International Airport (YSSY)
H4104/21 NOTAMR H4008/21
Q) YMMM/QMDCH/IV/NBO/A/000/999/3357S15111E005
A) YSSY
B) 2107302142 C) 2109301900 EST
E) RWY 16R/34L 473M NORTH END NOT AVBL DUE WIP
LDG RWY 16R NOT AVBL
RWY 34L RWY END 3489M FROM RWY 34L START OF TKOF
MEN AND EQPT OPR ON NOT AVAIL SECTION OF RWY NORTH OF TWY F
DECLARED DISTANCE AND GRADIENT CHANGES
RWY TORA TODA ASDA LDA
16R 3426 3516(2.37) 3456 -
34L 3000 3549(1.96) 3000 3489
NOTE REDUCED 34L TORA TO ALLOW ADDITIONAL HEIGHT OVERFLYING
THE NORTHERN WORKSITE
SUPPLEMENTARY TKOF DISTANCES
RWY 16R 3419 (1.6) 3464(1.9) 3498(2.2)
RWY 34L 3455 (1.6) 3537(1.9)
LDG RWY 34L LAST AVBL EXIT TWY F 3426M FM RWY 34L THR
TKOF RWY 16R ACFT WITH GREATER THEN 36M WINGSPAN ENTER VIA
TWY G
ACFT WITH GREATER THEN 36M WINGSPAN UNDER ATC APPROVAL
ENTRIES VIA TWY F AVBL WITH A REQUIREMENT TO TAXI TO SOUTH ON
THE RWY AND HOLD TWY G
EXPECT TAKEOFF CNCE FM TWY G
EXCLUDES B747 AND B767 ENTERING FM TWY F WEST
INT DEP FROM TWY G TORA 2849M
INT DEP FROM TWY B4 RESTRICTED TO ACFT MAX 36M WINGSPAN
ACFT MAX 36M WINGSPAN UNDER ATC APPROVAL ENTRIES VIA TWY F
OR TWY B3 AVBL WITH A REQUIREMENT TO TAXI TO SOUTH ON THE RWY
AND HOLD TWY B4.
EXPECT TAKEOFF CNCE FM TWY B4
INT DEP FM TWY B4 TORA 3139
INT DEP FM TWY B6 RESTRICTED TO TURBO PROP ACFT MAX 22000KG
MTOW
INT DEP FM TWY B6 TORA 2926
TURBO PROP ACFT APPROVED FOR DEP FM INT TWY F, TWY B3 AND TWY B4
RWY 16R HIGH INTST APCH LGT NOT AVBL
REFER TO METHOD OF WORKING PLAN YSSY 21/001
CREATED: 30 Jul 2021 21:42:00
SOURCE: YBBBZEZX

On Wednesday, 4 August 2021 at 3:05:22 pm UTC+10, keithr0 wrote:
> On 4/08/2021 2:26 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > the main Mascot N-S runway is being renovated, an area about 100m square at the North end. Near Tempe.
> >
> > The decision is that jet planes cannot land across the works for four months - but they can take off across them. They are doing so now.
> >
> > https://www.sydneyairport.com.au/corporate/planning-and-projects/runway-resurfacing
> >
> > Wot if a BIG jet a has to abort a take off ?
> >
> > Workmen scatter ?
<NOTAM snipped>

For those who don't read NOTAMs for relaxation...

RWY TORA TODA ASDA LDA
decodes as
Runway / Take Off Run Available / Take Off Distance Available / Accelerate Stop Distance Available / Landing Distance Available.

These links might be of some help:-
https://www.crc.id.au/xplane/charts/DAPS-2021-JUN-17/Sydney%20Kingsford%20Smith%20(YSSY).pdf
https://www.aviationfile.com/tora-toda-asda-lda-clearway-and-stopway/

Cheers,
Magani

Magani wrote:
============
> > >
> > > Wot if a BIG jet a has to abort a take off ?
> > >
> > > Workmen scatter ?
> <NOTAM snipped>

** Thankyou.
>
> For those who don't read NOTAMs for relaxation...

** LOL !!

> RWY TORA TODA ASDA LDA
> decodes as
> Runway / Take Off Run Available / Take Off Distance Available / Accelerate Stop Distance Available / Landing Distance Available.

** That is just soooooo comforting.

I was a thinkin' about this incident in Melbourne:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgtvaylG37U

As Forrest Gump famoulsy said .....

..... Phil

On 5/8/21 11:15 am, Phil Allison wrote:
> Magani wrote:
> ============
>>>>
>>>> Wot if a BIG jet a has to abort a take off ?
>>>>
>>>> Workmen scatter ?
>> <NOTAM snipped>
>
> ** Thankyou.
>>
>> For those who don't read NOTAMs for relaxation...
>
> ** LOL !!
>
>> RWY TORA TODA ASDA LDA
>> decodes as
>> Runway / Take Off Run Available / Take Off Distance Available / Accelerate Stop Distance Available / Landing Distance Available.
>
>
> ** That is just soooooo comforting.
>
> I was a thinkin' about this incident in Melbourne:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgtvaylG37U
>
> As Forrest Gump famoulsy said .....
>

Back when Tullamarine airport was still under construction 2 of my
friends worked doing material testing for the Dept of Works as it was
called back then.
They were working at the end of the same runway when they got a call on
the radio to vacate the area because a heavily loaded aircraft (full of
racehorses) needed to use that runway to take off and there was some
doubt whether or not it was going to get off the ground.
The runway was still under construction and not yet at its full length
and there was a 6mtr drop at the end, the aircraft lifted off just a few
meters before the end of the runway and it sank as it went over the drop
almost striking its tail and it just cleared the boundary fence so I
don't think that the Emirates incident was the first time there was
almost a major crash in Melbourne.

--
Daryl