YTC#1 wrote:
> On 16/11/2021 08:27, Sqirrel99 wrote:
>> YTC#1 wrote:
>>> On 15/11/2021 18:53, Mike Fleming wrote:
>>>> On 15/11/2021 14:30, YTC#1 wrote:
>>>>> On 15/11/2021 10:17, Mark Olson wrote:
>>>>>> YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 15/11/2021 07:57, Mark Olson wrote:
>>>>>>>> ... that I've just been woken by a particularly noisy seagull
>>>>>>>> outside
>>>>>>>> the window.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There ae no such things as seagulls.
>>>>>> And I don't believe in raccoons, or mutual funds, or Budweiser,
>>>>>> but it's not really up to me to decide, now is it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's at least one seagull sitting in Cartwright Gardens right now
>>>>>> that would beg to differ. I think he's saying "I squawk, therefore
>>>>>> I am".
>>>>>>
>>>>> No, really. No such thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> It may have been a Herring Gull, or a Black Backed Gull.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.wildlifetrusts.org/how-identify/identify-gulls
>>>> https://www.britishseagull.com/
>>> https://www.hungryhorse.co.uk/pubs/hampshire/seagull/
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Seagull
>>
>>
> Same problem :-)
>
> "The English title for the play The Seagull is a potentially misleading
> translation of the title from its original Russian. Although the words
> "gull" and "seagull" are often used interchangeably in English, the text
> of the play makes no mention of the sea and is set on an estate
> somewhere in the inland regions of central Russia or Ukraine. The
> titular gull in question was likely meant by Chekov to be a black-headed
> gull or common gull. A more exact translation of the title would thus be
> The Gull, as the word "seagull" could erroneously evoke maritime
> connotations when no such imagery was intended by the playwright."

Indeed - I *did* read the quoted article.
My point was that 'gull' and 'seagull' are synonymous in English, at
least colloquially and even in relatively highbrow contexts.

On Tue, 16 Nov 2021 10:23:24 +0000, Sqirrel99
<secret.sqirrel99@gmail.com> wrote:

>YTC#1 wrote:
>> Same problem :-)
>>
>> "The English title for the play The Seagull is a potentially misleading
>> translation of the title from its original Russian. Although the words
>> "gull" and "seagull" are often used interchangeably in English, the text
>> of the play makes no mention of the sea and is set on an estate
>> somewhere in the inland regions of central Russia or Ukraine. The
>> titular gull in question was likely meant by Chekov to be a black-headed
>> gull or common gull. A more exact translation of the title would thus be
>> The Gull, as the word "seagull" could erroneously evoke maritime
>> connotations when no such imagery was intended by the playwright."
>
>Indeed - I *did* read the quoted article.
>My point was that 'gull' and 'seagull' are synonymous in English, at
>least colloquially and even in relatively highbrow contexts.

And particularly amongst the gullible.

--
Colin Irvine
FJR1300A

On Tue, 16 Nov 2021 10:43:41 +0000, Colin Irvine
<look@colinandpat.co.uk> wrote:

>On Tue, 16 Nov 2021 10:23:24 +0000, Sqirrel99
><secret.sqirrel99@gmail.com> wrote:

>>My point was that 'gull' and 'seagull' are synonymous in English, at
>>least colloquially and even in relatively highbrow contexts.
>
>And particularly amongst the gullible.

I hope you'll be sending in your bill for that one.

--
Ace
http://www.chaletbeauroc.com/

Ace wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Nov 2021 10:43:41 +0000, Colin Irvine
> <look@colinandpat.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 16 Nov 2021 10:23:24 +0000, Sqirrel99
>> <secret.sqirrel99@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> My point was that 'gull' and 'seagull' are synonymous in English, at
>>> least colloquially and even in relatively highbrow contexts.
>> And particularly amongst the gullible.
>
> I hope you'll be sending in your bill for that one.

It was bad enough that he should be up before the beak.

On Tue, 16 Nov 2021 10:43:41 +0000, Colin Irvine
<look@colinandpat.co.uk> wrote:

>On Tue, 16 Nov 2021 10:23:24 +0000, Sqirrel99
><secret.sqirrel99@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>YTC#1 wrote:
>>> Same problem :-)
>>>
>>> "The English title for the play The Seagull is a potentially misleading
>>> translation of the title from its original Russian. Although the words
>>> "gull" and "seagull" are often used interchangeably in English, the text
>>> of the play makes no mention of the sea and is set on an estate
>>> somewhere in the inland regions of central Russia or Ukraine. The
>>> titular gull in question was likely meant by Chekov to be a black-headed
>>> gull or common gull. A more exact translation of the title would thus be
>>> The Gull, as the word "seagull" could erroneously evoke maritime
>>> connotations when no such imagery was intended by the playwright."
>>
>>Indeed - I *did* read the quoted article.
>>My point was that 'gull' and 'seagull' are synonymous in English, at
>>least colloquially and even in relatively highbrow contexts.
>
>And particularly amongst the gullible.

:D
--
Mark Roberts

On 16/11/2021 10:23, Sqirrel99 wrote:
> YTC#1 wrote:
>> On 16/11/2021 08:27, Sqirrel99 wrote:
>>> YTC#1 wrote:
>>>> On 15/11/2021 18:53, Mike Fleming wrote:
>>>>> On 15/11/2021 14:30, YTC#1 wrote:
>>>>>> On 15/11/2021 10:17, Mark Olson wrote:
>>>>>>> YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 15/11/2021 07:57, Mark Olson wrote:
>>>>>>>>> ... that I've just been woken by a particularly noisy seagull
>>>>>>>>> outside
>>>>>>>>> the window.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There ae no such things as seagulls.
>>>>>>> And I don't believe in raccoons, or mutual funds, or Budweiser,
>>>>>>> but it's not really up to me to decide, now is it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There's at least one seagull sitting in Cartwright Gardens right now
>>>>>>> that would beg to differ. I think he's saying "I squawk, therefore
>>>>>>> I am".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, really. No such thing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It may have been a Herring Gull, or a Black Backed Gull.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.wildlifetrusts.org/how-identify/identify-gulls
>>>>> https://www.britishseagull.com/
>>>> https://www.hungryhorse.co.uk/pubs/hampshire/seagull/
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Seagull
>>>
>>>
>> Same problem :-)
>>
>> "The English title for the play The Seagull is a potentially
>> misleading translation of the title from its original Russian.
>> Although the words "gull" and "seagull" are often used interchangeably
>> in English, the text of the play makes no mention of the sea and is
>> set on an estate somewhere in the inland regions of central Russia or
>> Ukraine. The titular gull in question was likely meant by Chekov to be
>> a black-headed gull or common gull. A more exact translation of the
>> title would thus be The Gull, as the word "seagull" could erroneously
>> evoke maritime connotations when no such imagery was intended by the
>> playwright."
>
> Indeed - I *did* read the quoted article.
> My point was that 'gull' and 'seagull' are synonymous in English, at
> least colloquially and even in relatively highbrow contexts.
>

It may be so, but thay are all wrong. In spades.

--
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"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
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On 15 Nov 2021 18:28:36 GMT, "sweller" <sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:

>ogden wrote:
>
>> The Royal Oak on Tabard Street, near Borough station, does a decent
>> pint of Harveys.

>Highly recommended - nice pub, tucked away and relatively free from the
>barrow boy commuters, tourists and ner' do wells.

er...Mark is at least one of the above :-)
--
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neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

On Tue, 16 Nov 2021 10:43:41 +0000, Colin Irvine
<look@colinandpat.co.uk> wrote:

>On Tue, 16 Nov 2021 10:23:24 +0000, Sqirrel99

>>My point was that 'gull' and 'seagull' are synonymous in English, at
>>least colloquially and even in relatively highbrow contexts.

>And particularly amongst the gullible.

<applause>
--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:
> On 15 Nov 2021 18:28:36 GMT, "sweller" <sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>ogden wrote:
>>
>>> The Royal Oak on Tabard Street, near Borough station, does a decent
>>> pint of Harveys.
>
>>Highly recommended - nice pub, tucked away and relatively free from the
>>barrow boy commuters, tourists and ner' do wells.
>
> er...Mark is at least one of the above :-)

Heh.

We're in Salisbury for tonight and tomorrow night.

Any first-hand recommendations for places to eat & drink? Staying at
a nice place called the Three Crowns[1] Guest House.

[1] The owner doesn't seem to be the least bit Swedish.

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Mark Olson <olsonm@tiny.invalid> wrote in news:sn0q99$7qo$1@dont-email.me:

> Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>> On 15 Nov 2021 18:28:36 GMT, "sweller" <sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>ogden wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Royal Oak on Tabard Street, near Borough station, does a decent
>>>> pint of Harveys.
>>
>>>Highly recommended - nice pub, tucked away and relatively free from the
>>>barrow boy commuters, tourists and ner' do wells.
>>
>> er...Mark is at least one of the above :-)
>
> Heh.
>
> We're in Salisbury for tonight and tomorrow night.
>
> Any first-hand recommendations for places to eat & drink? Staying at
> a nice place called the Three Crowns[1] Guest House.
>
> [1] The owner doesn't seem to be the least bit Swedish.
>

you appear to be within crawling distance of the Old Mill Hotel and nowhere
else. QED.

On 16/11/2021 17:37, Mark Olson wrote:
> Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>> On 15 Nov 2021 18:28:36 GMT, "sweller" <sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> ogden wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Royal Oak on Tabard Street, near Borough station, does a decent
>>>> pint of Harveys.
>>
>>> Highly recommended - nice pub, tucked away and relatively free from the
>>> barrow boy commuters, tourists and ner' do wells.
>>
>> er...Mark is at least one of the above :-)
>
> Heh.
>
> We're in Salisbury for tonight and tomorrow night.
>
> Any first-hand recommendations for places to eat & drink? Staying at
> a nice place called the Three Crowns[1] Guest House.
>
> [1] The owner doesn't seem to be the least bit Swedish.
>

Zizzi's pizza. I heard it's a once in a lifetime experience.

--
/Simon

wessie <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
> Mark Olson <olsonm@tiny.invalid> wrote in news:sn0q99$7qo$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>>> On 15 Nov 2021 18:28:36 GMT, "sweller" <sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>ogden wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The Royal Oak on Tabard Street, near Borough station, does a decent
>>>>> pint of Harveys.
>>>
>>>>Highly recommended - nice pub, tucked away and relatively free from the
>>>>barrow boy commuters, tourists and ner' do wells.
>>>
>>> er...Mark is at least one of the above :-)
>>
>> Heh.
>>
>> We're in Salisbury for tonight and tomorrow night.
>>
>> Any first-hand recommendations for places to eat & drink? Staying at
>> a nice place called the Three Crowns[1] Guest House.
>>
>> [1] The owner doesn't seem to be the least bit Swedish.
>>
>
> you appear to be within crawling distance of the Old Mill Hotel and nowhere
> else. QED.

Walked right past it. Currently at the Ole Aleband Coffee hpuse,
the pub quiz is just starting.

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So, perhaps a bit like fugu?

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Mark Olson <olsonm@tiny.invalid> wrote in
news:sn10r1$oe6$1@dont-email.me:

> wessie <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:

>> you appear to be within crawling distance of the Old Mill Hotel and
>> nowhere else. QED.
>
> Walked right past it. Currently at the Ole Aleband Coffee hpuse,
> the pub quiz is just starting.
>

had a few have you?

don't fall into one of the rivers on the way back

wessie <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
> Mark Olson <olsonm@tiny.invalid> wrote in
> news:sn10r1$oe6$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> wessie <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
>
>>> you appear to be within crawling distance of the Old Mill Hotel and
>>> nowhere else. QED.
>>
>> Walked right past it. Currently at the Ole Aleband Coffee hpuse,
>> the pub quiz is just starting.
>>
>
> had a few have you?
>
> don't fall into one of the rivers on the way back

We did, and good it was, too.

I dare say we'd have done pretty well in the quiz, as we knew most of
the answers between us, save the picture-based ones, since we didn't
have a sheet to play from.

Two easy ones: is 10C warmer or colder than 10F? We both guffawed
at that one. Other giveaway for an American: Dover is the capitol of
what US state?

Some of those railings did look a bit treacherous.

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On 16/11/2021 10:03, YTC#1 wrote:
> On 16/11/2021 08:27, Sqirrel99 wrote:
>> YTC#1 wrote:
>>> On 15/11/2021 18:53, Mike Fleming wrote:
>>>> On 15/11/2021 14:30, YTC#1 wrote:
>>>>> On 15/11/2021 10:17, Mark Olson wrote:
>>>>>> YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 15/11/2021 07:57, Mark Olson wrote:
>>>>>>>> ... that I've just been woken by a particularly noisy seagull
>>>>>>>> outside
>>>>>>>> the window.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There ae no such things as seagulls.
>>>>>> And I don't believe in raccoons, or mutual funds, or Budweiser,
>>>>>> but it's not really up to me to decide, now is it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's at least one seagull sitting in Cartwright Gardens right now
>>>>>> that would beg to differ. I think he's saying "I squawk, therefore
>>>>>> I am".
>>>>>>
>>>>> No, really. No such thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> It may have been a Herring Gull, or a Black Backed Gull.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.wildlifetrusts.org/how-identify/identify-gulls
>>>> https://www.britishseagull.com/
>>>
>>> https://www.hungryhorse.co.uk/pubs/hampshire/seagull/
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Seagull
>>
>>
> Same problem :-)
>
> "The English title for the play The Seagull is a potentially misleading
> translation of the title from its original Russian. Although the words
> "gull" and "seagull" are often used interchangeably in English, the text
> of the play makes no mention of the sea and is set on an estate
> somewhere in the inland regions of central Russia or Ukraine. The
> titular gull in question was likely meant by Chekov to be a black-headed
> gull or common gull. A more exact translation of the title would thus be
> The Gull, as the word "seagull" could erroneously evoke maritime
> connotations when no such imagery was intended by the playwright."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Livingston_Seagull

On 16/11/2021 11:59, Sqirrel99 wrote:
> Ace wrote:
>> On Tue, 16 Nov 2021 10:43:41 +0000, Colin Irvine
>> <look@colinandpat.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 16 Nov 2021 10:23:24 +0000, Sqirrel99
>>> <secret.sqirrel99@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> My point was that 'gull' and 'seagull' are synonymous in English, at
>>>> least colloquially and even in relatively highbrow contexts.
>>> And particularly amongst the gullible.
>>
>> I hope you'll be sending in your bill for that one.
>
> It was bad enough that he should be up before the beak.

At least we know that the comic tern has arrived.

On 16/11/2021 23:42, Mike Fleming wrote:
> On 16/11/2021 11:59, Sqirrel99 wrote:
>> Ace wrote:
>>> On Tue, 16 Nov 2021 10:43:41 +0000, Colin Irvine
>>> <look@colinandpat.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 16 Nov 2021 10:23:24 +0000, Sqirrel99
>>>> <secret.sqirrel99@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> My point was that 'gull' and 'seagull' are synonymous in English,
>>>>> at least colloquially and even in relatively highbrow contexts.
>>>> And particularly amongst the gullible.
>>>
>>> I hope you'll be sending in your bill for that one.
>>
>> It was bad enough that he should be up before the beak.
>
> At least we know that the comic tern has arrived.

I do hope he's not going to wing it.

--
Eddie eddie@deguello.org

On 16/11/2021 23:40, Mike Fleming wrote:
> On 16/11/2021 10:03, YTC#1 wrote:
>> On 16/11/2021 08:27, Sqirrel99 wrote:
>>> YTC#1 wrote:
>>>> On 15/11/2021 18:53, Mike Fleming wrote:
>>>>> On 15/11/2021 14:30, YTC#1 wrote:
>>>>>> On 15/11/2021 10:17, Mark Olson wrote:
>>>>>>> YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 15/11/2021 07:57, Mark Olson wrote:
>>>>>>>>> ... that I've just been woken by a particularly noisy seagull
>>>>>>>>> outside
>>>>>>>>> the window.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There ae no such things as seagulls.
>>>>>>> And I don't believe in raccoons, or mutual funds, or Budweiser,
>>>>>>> but it's not really up to me to decide, now is it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There's at least one seagull sitting in Cartwright Gardens right now
>>>>>>> that would beg to differ. I think he's saying "I squawk, therefore
>>>>>>> I am".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, really. No such thing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It may have been a Herring Gull, or a Black Backed Gull.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.wildlifetrusts.org/how-identify/identify-gulls
>>>>> https://www.britishseagull.com/
>>>>
>>>> https://www.hungryhorse.co.uk/pubs/hampshire/seagull/
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Seagull
>>>
>>>
>> Same problem :-)
>>
>> "The English title for the play The Seagull is a potentially
>> misleading translation of the title from its original Russian.
>> Although the words "gull" and "seagull" are often used interchangeably
>> in English, the text of the play makes no mention of the sea and is
>> set on an estate somewhere in the inland regions of central Russia or
>> Ukraine. The titular gull in question was likely meant by Chekov to be
>> a black-headed gull or common gull. A more exact translation of the
>> title would thus be The Gull, as the word "seagull" could erroneously
>> evoke maritime connotations when no such imagery was intended by the
>> playwright."
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Livingston_Seagull
>

Shite book

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:
> On 16/11/2021 23:40, Mike Fleming wrote:

>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Livingston_Seagull
>
> Shite book

Bruce, were you savaged by a (sea)gull as a child?

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On Wednesday, 17 November 2021 at 12:12:32 UTC, Mark Olson wrote:
> YTC#1 <b...@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:
> > On 16/11/2021 23:40, Mike Fleming wrote:
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Livingston_Seagull
> >
> > Shite book
>
> Bruce, were you savaged by a (sea)gull as a child?

He's not been the same since someone bounced a brick off his head.

siwilson <siwilson@nodamnspam.hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 16/11/2021 17:37, Mark Olson wrote:
>> Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>>> On 15 Nov 2021 18:28:36 GMT, "sweller" <sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ogden wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The Royal Oak on Tabard Street, near Borough station, does a decent
>>>>> pint of Harveys.
>>>
>>>> Highly recommended - nice pub, tucked away and relatively free from the
>>>> barrow boy commuters, tourists and ner' do wells.
>>>
>>> er...Mark is at least one of the above :-)
>>
>> Heh.
>>
>> We're in Salisbury for tonight and tomorrow night.
>>
>> Any first-hand recommendations for places to eat & drink? Staying at
>> a nice place called the Three Crowns[1] Guest House.
>>
>> [1] The owner doesn't seem to be the least bit Swedish.
>>
>
> Zizzi's pizza. I heard it's a once in a lifetime experience.

I've just now twigged to this. Well done.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/VpnBTMgciAdVWM2D9

Bonus shot of P and me sitting on the Sergei and Yulia Skripal
memorial bench.

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On 17/11/2021 15:20, Stephen Packer wrote:
> On Wednesday, 17 November 2021 at 12:12:32 UTC, Mark Olson wrote:
>> YTC#1 <b...@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On 16/11/2021 23:40, Mike Fleming wrote:
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Livingston_Seagull
>>>
>>> Shite book
>>
>> Bruce, were you savaged by a (sea)gull as a child?
>
> He's not been the same since someone bounced a brick off his head.

Was the brick badly damaged?

On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 12:12:32 PM UTC, Mark Olson wrote:
> YTC#1 <b...@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:
> > On 16/11/2021 23:40, Mike Fleming wrote:
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Livingston_Seagull
> >
> > Shite book
>
> Bruce, were you savaged by a (sea)gull as a child?

Show me on the doll where the seagull hurt you.

--
WUN

On 17/11/2021 10:16, YTC#1 wrote:
> On 16/11/2021 23:40, Mike Fleming wrote:
>> On 16/11/2021 10:03, YTC#1 wrote:
>>> On 16/11/2021 08:27, Sqirrel99 wrote:
>>>> YTC#1 wrote:
>>>>> On 15/11/2021 18:53, Mike Fleming wrote:
>>>>>> On 15/11/2021 14:30, YTC#1 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 15/11/2021 10:17, Mark Olson wrote:
>>>>>>>> YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 15/11/2021 07:57, Mark Olson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> ... that I've just been woken by a particularly noisy seagull
>>>>>>>>>> outside
>>>>>>>>>> the window.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There ae no such things as seagulls.
>>>>>>>> And I don't believe in raccoons, or mutual funds, or Budweiser,
>>>>>>>> but it's not really up to me to decide, now is it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There's at least one seagull sitting in Cartwright Gardens right
>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>> that would beg to differ. I think he's saying "I squawk, therefore
>>>>>>>> I am".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, really. No such thing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It may have been a Herring Gull, or a Black Backed Gull.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.wildlifetrusts.org/how-identify/identify-gulls
>>>>>> https://www.britishseagull.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.hungryhorse.co.uk/pubs/hampshire/seagull/
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Seagull
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Same problem :-)
>>>
>>> "The English title for the play The Seagull is a potentially
>>> misleading translation of the title from its original Russian.
>>> Although the words "gull" and "seagull" are often used
>>> interchangeably in English, the text of the play makes no mention of
>>> the sea and is set on an estate somewhere in the inland regions of
>>> central Russia or Ukraine. The titular gull in question was likely
>>> meant by Chekov to be a black-headed gull or common gull. A more
>>> exact translation of the title would thus be The Gull, as the word
>>> "seagull" could erroneously evoke maritime connotations when no such
>>> imagery was intended by the playwright."
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Livingston_Seagull
>>
>
> Shite book
>
>
+1

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