On Monday, 18 October 2021 at 17:45:03 UTC+1, Turby wrote:
> On 10/18/2021 7:21 AM, Ben Blaney wrote:
> >
> >
> > I'm thinking about coast to coast on a Pan Euro. Got to find one first. And maybe I should go on a three-day trundle around the North East as a taster, first.
> Pan Euro. I had a ST1100. Loved it. Put 120,000 miles on it. But that
> was back in the 90's. I got a ST1300 to replace it. A mistake. It seemed
> like they had hired a bunch of newbie engineers who made a lot of
> errors. I like the FJR a lot more.

I had a Pan that I bought from WUN. Can't say I ever really liked it a lot.

It was competent but a bit soul-less. That's something when I ride BMW boxers...

On 18/10/2021 17:48, Eddie wrote:
> On 18/10/2021 17:43, Ace wrote:
>>
>> Only useful on your own computer, of course, but otherwise I just
>> resort to looking at the actual; key markings.
>
> ... or not, apparently.
>

He does it blind folded you know :-)

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

On 18/10/2021 15:21, Ben Blaney wrote:
> On Thursday, October 14, 2021 at 11:57:06 AM UTC-4, Krusty wrote:
>> 2k miles over 10 days, first tour on the GS
>
> Sound magical. I'm deeply jealous. I am getting obsessed with taking a trip of a reasonable magnitude as soon as possible.
>

I've just booked for Portsmouth-> St Malo on Wed.
Then off to Alicante, via the Pyrenees

I blame Krusty.

> I'm thinking about coast to coast on a Pan Euro. Got to find one first. And maybe I should go on a three-day trundle around the North East as a taster, first.

I'd like to do the USA again some day.
>
>> & the first with a pillion
>> for what must be 20 years.
>
> Did I miss an announcement of a personal nature? Or was this post the announcement?
>

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

On Mon, 18 Oct 2021 18:53:03 +0100, YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk>
wrote:

>I'd like to do the USA again some day.

My 2020, er, 2021 Wild West trip is now planned for May '22.

I knew it was a while ago it was originally planned, as my ESTA has
now expired.
--
Salad Dodger
1690 FLHTK;GL1800D
Previously ...
CB1300SA8;GL1800A6;GL1500SEV;CBR1100XXX;
CBR1000FL;CBX1000Z;GPz750R;Z750E1;Z650C2;
KH500A8;KH250B3;TS250c;TS185c.

On 18/10/2021 19:20, Salad Dodger wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Oct 2021 18:53:03 +0100, YTC#1 <bdp@ytc1-spambin.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>
>> I'd like to do the USA again some day.
>
> My 2020, er, 2021 Wild West trip is now planned for May '22.
>
> I knew it was a while ago it was originally planned, as my ESTA has
> now expired.
>

Don't leave it too long, or Trump might be back in.

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

On Mon, 18 Oct 2021 17:48:26 +0100, Eddie <eddie@deguello.org> wrote:

>On 18/10/2021 17:43, Ace wrote:
>>
>> Only useful on your own computer, of course, but otherwise I just
>> resort to looking at the actual; key markings.
>
>... or not, apparently.

LTSTPRU
--
Ace
http://www.chaletbeauroc.com/

Stephen Packer wrote:

> I had a Pan that I bought from WUN. Can't say I ever really liked it
> a lot.
>
> It was competent but a bit soul-less. That's something when I ride
> BMW boxers..

Difficult to pick up in the snow - from memory.

--
Simon

YTC#1 wrote:

> On 18/10/2021 15:21, Ben Blaney wrote:
> > On Thursday, October 14, 2021 at 11:57:06 AM UTC-4, Krusty wrote:
> > > 2k miles over 10 days, first tour on the GS
> >
> > Sound magical. I'm deeply jealous. I am getting obsessed with
> > taking a trip of a reasonable magnitude as soon as possible.
> >
>
> I've just booked for Portsmouth-> St Malo on Wed.
> Then off to Alicante, via the Pyrenees
>
> I blame Krusty.

<proud>

Enjoy!

--
Krusty

Ben Blaney wrote:

> On Thursday, October 14, 2021 at 11:57:06 AM UTC-4, Krusty wrote:
> > 2k miles over 10 days, first tour on the GS
>
> Sound magical. I'm deeply jealous. I am getting obsessed with
> taking a trip of a reasonable magnitude as soon as possible.
>
> I'm thinking about coast to coast on a Pan Euro. Got to find one
> first. And maybe I should go on a three-day trundle around the North
> East as a taster, first.

Go for it. We're all potentially one second away from a Darsy or TOG.

> > & the first with a pillion
> > for what must be 20 years.
>
> Did I miss an announcement of a personal nature? Or was this post
> the announcement?

Neither, it's just that all partners since have either ridden their own
bikes or not wanted to go on one at all.

--
Krusty

Champ wrote:

> On Thu, 14 Oct 2021 15:57:05 -0000 (UTC), "Krusty"
> <dontwantany@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>
> > 2k miles over 10 days, first tour on the GS & the first with a
> > pillion for what must be 20 years.
> >
> > The next trip will be in a motorhome with a DRZ400 or similar on the
> > back, & potentially involve residency applications. The foothills of
> > the Pyrenees near either Biarritz or Leucate is where I'd planned to
> > retire to before Brexit fucked that dream up, but this trip
> > confirmed it's worth the grief of trying to get annual visas.
>
> Fuck but it's nice to read this :-) I was half planning a quick
> October dash to Spain with a mate who lives here on the IoM, but he's
> had to kick it into touch, so won't be happening for me, now.

Bummer. I'm sure someone else would jump in if you asked for volunteers
though.

> My new[1] motorhome is the sort of race van with garage space in the
> back, beloved by motocrossers, and once I've proved it's reliability
> around the IoM, and then perhaps a trip or two across the UK (I feel
> Scotland calling) then a big Euro trip, with a bike in the back for
> local running about, is definitely on the cards

Nice. We thought about one of those but hope to spend three months away
in it next summer so a bit more space & luxury is required.

--
Krusty

On 21/10/2021 15:17, Krusty wrote:
> YTC#1 wrote:
>
>> On 18/10/2021 15:21, Ben Blaney wrote:
>>> On Thursday, October 14, 2021 at 11:57:06 AM UTC-4, Krusty wrote:
>>>> 2k miles over 10 days, first tour on the GS
>>>
>>> Sound magical. I'm deeply jealous. I am getting obsessed with
>>> taking a trip of a reasonable magnitude as soon as possible.
>>>
>>
>> I've just booked for Portsmouth-> St Malo on Wed.
>> Then off to Alicante, via the Pyrenees
>>
>> I blame Krusty.
>
> <proud>
>
> Enjoy!
>

I did, thanks. :-)

--
Bruce Porter
"The internet is a huge and diverse community but mainly friendly"
http://ytc1.blogspot.co.uk/
There *is* an alternative! http://www.openoffice.org/

On Thursday, 14 October 2021 at 17:39:41 UTC+1, Champ wrote:

> My new[1] motorhome is the sort of race van with garage space in the
> back, beloved by motocrossers

The problem exactly with almost all motorhomes is the lack of "proper" motorcycle accommodation and IMHO a motorhome/campervan is a convenient way of going places to ride motorcycles, with all the gear, without 2 wheeled furrin motorway schleps. Get to a good campsite in the Alps etc, set up a jolly nice home from home, change location/country a couple of times, ride for a few weeks. It's remarkably efficacious.
https://flic.kr/p/ffkbBH
The typical built in "garages" aint big enough. Tow bar frames cannot support the weight, the leverage of chassis mounted frames generally exceeds the axle rating of euro vehicles, one should really be requiring 2 motorcycles anyway.
An ex team race van may be an excellent solution.
--
Hog
2020 SD-R '89 R100RS '96 Bastard12
BOB#5 OSOS#31 COFF#22 BOTAFOT#122

On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 11:14:40 -0800 (PST), Hog <york996@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Thursday, 14 October 2021 at 17:39:41 UTC+1, Champ wrote:
>
>> My new[1] motorhome is the sort of race van with garage space in the
>> back, beloved by motocrossers
>
>The problem exactly with almost all motorhomes is the lack of "proper" motorcycle accommodation and IMHO a motorhome/campervan is a convenient way of going places to ride motorcycles, with all the gear, without 2 wheeled furrin motorway schleps. Get to a good campsite in the Alps etc, set up a jolly nice home from home, change location/country a couple of times, ride for a few weeks. It's remarkably efficacious.
>https://flic.kr/p/ffkbBH
>The typical built in "garages" aint big enough. Tow bar frames cannot support the weight, the leverage of chassis mounted frames generally exceeds the axle rating of euro vehicles, one should really be requiring 2 motorcycles anyway.
>An ex team race van may be an excellent solution.

I'll have to get some photos of mine in use. I can get the ZXR & TZ,
generator, awning (folder up), and boxes of tyre warmers, tools,
spares, and a few wheels, in the garage. The accomodation bit has a
kitchen (sink, hob, over/grill), table (removable), 2 bench seats,
loo, and the bed above the garage.

The thing is built on a LWB Merc Sprinter, with the 'legendary'
straight-5 diesel motor. It's tired and shabby, but good so far

--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

On Saturday, 27 November 2021 at 19:26:24 UTC, Champ wrote:

> I'll have to get some photos of mine in use. I can get the ZXR & TZ,
> generator, awning (folder up), and boxes of tyre warmers, tools,
> spares, and a few wheels, in the garage. The accomodation bit has a
> kitchen (sink, hob, over/grill), table (removable), 2 bench seats,
> loo, and the bed above the garage.

So how did you previously transport so much stuff?
>
> The thing is built on a LWB Merc Sprinter, with the 'legendary'
> straight-5 diesel motor. It's tired and shabby, but good so far

Thing is, for that other beautiful porpoise, ski camping (1), L2H1 and complete Stealth is a boon. So many Alpine car parks have 2.1m height bars and motorhomes not welcome. OTOH trailer suck (for summer biking), the Trafic would cruise at 90mph/29mpg.

Pete F has commented that more than one van may be optimal.

(1) spending a few weeks following the best snow from Samoens to Cervinia to Grindelwald etc etc with all the other van dwelling ski bums is one of life's sweetest experiences.
--
Hog
2020 SD-R '89 R100RS '96 Bastard12
BOB#5 OSOS#31 COFF#22 BOTAFOT#122

On 29/11/2021 21:47, Hog wrote:
> On Saturday, 27 November 2021 at 19:26:24 UTC, Champ wrote:
>
>> I'll have to get some photos of mine in use. I can get the ZXR & TZ,
>> generator, awning (folder up), and boxes of tyre warmers, tools,
>> spares, and a few wheels, in the garage. The accomodation bit has a
>> kitchen (sink, hob, over/grill), table (removable), 2 bench seats,
>> loo, and the bed above the garage.
>
> So how did you previously transport so much stuff?
>>

In a SO white van, is there any other way?

--
/Simon