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* No_option_off_the_table_for_TransPennine_Express_Jack Harry Teesdale
+- No option off the table forRecliner
`* No option off the table for TransPennine Express ? Transport SecretaryRoland Perry
 `- No option off the table forSam Wilson

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No option off the table for TransPennine Express – Transport Secretary

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Subject: No_option_off_the_table_for_TransPennine_Express_
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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2023 12:33:42 +0100
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 by: Jack Harry Teesdale - Wed, 19 Apr 2023 11:33 UTC

Mark Harper has said “no option is off the table” ahead of his decision
on whether to renew the contract of train company Trans-Pennine Express
(TPE).

The contract to run the service expires on May 28.

Has there ever been a worse rail operating company?

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From: recliner...@gmail.com (Recliner)
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Subject: Re: No option off the table for
TransPennine Express – Transport
Secretary
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2023 11:44:48 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: Recliner - Wed, 19 Apr 2023 11:44 UTC

Jack Harry Teesdale <noreply492000-medic@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Mark Harper has said “no option is off the table” ahead of his decision
> on whether to renew the contract of train company Trans-Pennine Express
> (TPE).
>
> The contract to run the service expires on May 28.
>
> Has there ever been a worse rail operating company?
>

Aren't many of the problems because of NR?

And did the DfT limit driver recruitment and RDW?

Re: No option off the table for TransPennine Express ? Transport Secretary

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From: rol...@perry.uk (Roland Perry)
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Subject: Re: No option off the table for TransPennine Express ??? Transport Secretary
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2023 05:55:49 +0100
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 by: Roland Perry - Sun, 23 Apr 2023 04:55 UTC

In message <u1ojip$17bp$1@dont-email.me>, at 12:33:42 on Wed, 19 Apr
2023, Jack Harry Teesdale <noreply492000-medic@yahoo.co.uk> remarked:
>Mark Harper has said “no option is off the table” ahead of his
>decision on whether to renew the contract of train company
>Trans-Pennine Express (TPE).
>
>The contract to run the service expires on May 28.
>
>Has there ever been a worse rail operating company?

Statistically, I suppose there might be some statistics available;
although they only tell us the outcomes not the reasons - some of which
might be beyond their control. Indeed, without a careful analysis it's
possible that the franchise might have had a worse outcome recently
under different management (if your question is really "Is TPE's
management the worst a TOC ever had".

I'm not a TPE user or follower, so won't be attempting that analysis.

There are many other TOCs which have performed badly in the past - the
original SWT for example, and Virgin in the first years before their new
trains arrived (and opinions are divided whether the new trains
themselves were an improvement). NXEC didn't win many friends, and iirc
Silverlink [Natex again] was poorly regarded.

I was GTR who perpetrated "Meltdown Monday", from which despite (or
maybe because of) the pandemic it hasn't fully recovered from.

etc etc, and I'm sure others have examples.
--
Roland Perry

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From: ukr...@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk (Sam Wilson)
Newsgroups: uk.railway
Subject: Re: No option off the table for
TransPennine Express – Transport Secretary
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2023 20:48:25 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: Sam Wilson - Mon, 24 Apr 2023 20:48 UTC

Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
> In message <u1ojip$17bp$1@dont-email.me>, at 12:33:42 on Wed, 19 Apr
> 2023, Jack Harry Teesdale <noreply492000-medic@yahoo.co.uk> remarked:
>> Mark Harper has said “no option is off the table” ahead of his
>> decision on whether to renew the contract of train company
>> Trans-Pennine Express (TPE).
>>
>> The contract to run the service expires on May 28.
>>
>> Has there ever been a worse rail operating company?
>
> Statistically, I suppose there might be some statistics available;
> although they only tell us the outcomes not the reasons - some of which
> might be beyond their control. Indeed, without a careful analysis it's
> possible that the franchise might have had a worse outcome recently
> under different management (if your question is really "Is TPE's
> management the worst a TOC ever had".
>
> I'm not a TPE user or follower, so won't be attempting that analysis.
>
> There are many other TOCs which have performed badly in the past - the
> original SWT for example, and Virgin in the first years before their new
> trains arrived (and opinions are divided whether the new trains
> themselves were an improvement). NXEC didn't win many friends, and iirc
> Silverlink [Natex again] was poorly regarded.
>
> I was GTR who perpetrated "Meltdown Monday", from which despite (or
> maybe because of) the pandemic it hasn't fully recovered from.
>
> etc etc, and I'm sure others have examples.

For a while I think Connex was the canonical example.

Sam

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