On 29/11/2021 15:20, Maus wrote:
> On 2021-11-28, Richard Robinson <richardR@privacy.net> wrote:
>> Mike Fleming said:
>>> On 25/11/2021 20:16, Tone wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Whist I in no way condone people-trafficking, the problem is the
>>>> suffering the refugees are subject to in their own countries.
>>>>
>>>> The solution is to give them safe passage.
>>>
>>> Or to do something about the initial cause. The Kurds need a proper
>>> homeland rather than being an oppressed minority in three countries,
>
> Which Kurds? AFAIK, there are three aspirants.

I thought it was one set of Kurds in three countries. <checks> make that
four countries. They could do with Kurdistan becoming an independent
entity recognised and protected by the UN (as promised 101 years ago).

Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> wrote in news:j0l7jnFqsdvU1
@mid.individual.net:

> On 27/11/2021 21:55, Peter wrote:
>> Tone <email@address.com> wrote in news:snu8kr$g84$1@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> Giving them safe passage is a tad easier.
>>>
>>> It might also help to solve our harvesting, NHS and care employment
>>> shortfall if we accept them.
>>
>> "Harvesting, NHS" made me think of Ishiguru's "Never let me go". I
>> suppose it's a solution theoretically but I'm pretty sure there are
laws
>> against that sort of thing.
>
> Also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jigsaw_Man
ATAAAW "A planet named Shayol" by Cordwainer Smith. I'd forgotten it's
name and author but a quick gurgle brought it up. I used to read a lot of
Cordwainer Smith.

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Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> wrote in
news:j0mnq9F52rjU1@mid.individual.net:

> On 29/11/2021 14:28, Richard Robinson wrote:
>> Ahem A Rivet's Shot said:
>>> On Sun, 28 Nov 2021 08:54:32 -0600
>>> Richard Robinson <richardR@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> i'm reminded of a New Scientist article (earlymid80s) on the
>>>> history of the pushbike. That's a fairly simple obvious design,
>>>> you'd think ?
>>>
>>> Hmm Penny Farthing - I tried to ride one once and just kept
>>> falling
>>> off.
>>
>> TBF, I did that first time on a more-usual one.
>
> I did it first time on a motorcycle.

Are we still talking about faling off bikes?

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In article <XnsADF29C47B52AEFactura3476@144.76.35.252>, Peter
<myshed@prune.org.uk> on Tue, 30 Nov 2021 at 15:21:48 awoke Nicholas
from his slumbers and wrote
>Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> wrote in
>news:j0mnq9F52rjU1@mid.individual.net:
>
>> On 29/11/2021 14:28, Richard Robinson wrote:
>>> Ahem A Rivet's Shot said:
>>>> On Sun, 28 Nov 2021 08:54:32 -0600
>>>> Richard Robinson <richardR@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> i'm reminded of a New Scientist article (earlymid80s) on the
>>>>> history of the pushbike. That's a fairly simple obvious design,
>>>>> you'd think ?
>>>>
>>>> Hmm Penny Farthing - I tried to ride one once and just kept
>>>> falling
>>>> off.
>>>
>>> TBF, I did that first time on a more-usual one.
>>
>> I did it first time on a motorcycle.
>
>Are we still talking about faling off bikes?
>
I reckon not, although you might fall off as a result of doing it on a
motorcycle.
--
0sterc@tcher -

"Où sont les neiges d'antan?"

On Tue, 30 Nov 2021 15:38:43 +0000
"Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:

> In article <XnsADF29C47B52AEFactura3476@144.76.35.252>, Peter
> <myshed@prune.org.uk> on Tue, 30 Nov 2021 at 15:21:48 awoke Nicholas
> from his slumbers and wrote
> >Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> wrote in
> >news:j0mnq9F52rjU1@mid.individual.net:
> >
> >> On 29/11/2021 14:28, Richard Robinson wrote:
> >>> Ahem A Rivet's Shot said:
> >>>> On Sun, 28 Nov 2021 08:54:32 -0600
> >>>> Richard Robinson <richardR@privacy.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> i'm reminded of a New Scientist article (earlymid80s) on the
> >>>>> history of the pushbike. That's a fairly simple obvious design,
> >>>>> you'd think ?
> >>>>
> >>>> Hmm Penny Farthing - I tried to ride one once and just kept
> >>>> falling
> >>>> off.
> >>>
> >>> TBF, I did that first time on a more-usual one.
> >>
> >> I did it first time on a motorcycle.
> >
> >Are we still talking about faling off bikes?
> >
> I reckon not, although you might fall off as a result of doing it on a
> motorcycle.

Lbooyd drafty too, but not as bad as the Sopwith.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
[...]
> > >>>>> i'm reminded of a New Scientist article (earlymid80s) on the
> > >>>>> history of the pushbike. That's a fairly simple obvious design,
> > >>>>> you'd think ?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Hmm Penny Farthing - I tried to ride one once
> > >>>> and just kept falling off.
> > >>>
> > >>> TBF, I did that first time on a more-usual one.
> > >>
> > >> I did it first time on a motorcycle.
> > >
> > >Are we still talking about faling off bikes?
> > >
> > I reckon not, although you might fall off as a result of
> > doing it on a motorcycle.
>
> Lbooyd drafty too, but not as bad as the Sopwith.

# The frkhny yvsr of the Camel
# Is stranger than anyone thinks

--
^Ï^ (barracking from the sidelines, not quite gorned yet)

My pet rock Gordon just is.

On 30/11/2021 17:56, Sn!pe wrote:
> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
> [...]
>>>>>>>> i'm reminded of a New Scientist article (earlymid80s) on the
>>>>>>>> history of the pushbike. That's a fairly simple obvious design,
>>>>>>>> you'd think ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hmm Penny Farthing - I tried to ride one once
>>>>>>> and just kept falling off.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TBF, I did that first time on a more-usual one.
>>>>>
>>>>> I did it first time on a motorcycle.
>>>>
>>>> Are we still talking about faling off bikes?
>>>>
>>> I reckon not, although you might fall off as a result of
>>> doing it on a motorcycle.
>>
>> Lbooyd drafty too, but not as bad as the Sopwith.
>
> # The frkhny yvsr of the Camel
> # Is stranger than anyone thinks

# At the height of the mating season
--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

On Tue, 30 Nov 2021 18:24:11 +0000
RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:

> On 30/11/2021 17:56, Sn!pe wrote:
> > Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
> > [...]
> >>>>>>>> i'm reminded of a New Scientist article (earlymid80s) on the
> >>>>>>>> history of the pushbike. That's a fairly simple obvious design,
> >>>>>>>> you'd think ?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hmm Penny Farthing - I tried to ride one once
> >>>>>>> and just kept falling off.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> TBF, I did that first time on a more-usual one.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I did it first time on a motorcycle.
> >>>>
> >>>> Are we still talking about faling off bikes?
> >>>>
> >>> I reckon not, although you might fall off as a result of
> >>> doing it on a motorcycle.
> >>
> >> Lbooyd drafty too, but not as bad as the Sopwith.
> >
> > # The frkhny yvsr of the Camel
> > # Is stranger than anyone thinks
>
> # At the height of the mating season

Hey there's a camel at the cloth shed flap asking if we're up for
digging out some sand for him.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

On 30-Nov-21 15:19, Peter wrote:
> Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> wrote in news:j0l7jnFqsdvU1
> @mid.individual.net:
>
>> On 27/11/2021 21:55, Peter wrote:
>>> Tone <email@address.com> wrote in news:snu8kr$g84$1@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> Giving them safe passage is a tad easier.
>>>>
>>>> It might also help to solve our harvesting, NHS and care employment
>>>> shortfall if we accept them.
>>>
>>> "Harvesting, NHS" made me think of Ishiguru's "Never let me go". I
>>> suppose it's a solution theoretically but I'm pretty sure there are
> laws
>>> against that sort of thing.
>>
>> Also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jigsaw_Man
>
> ATAAAW "A planet named Shayol" by Cordwainer Smith. I'd forgotten it's
> name and author but a quick gurgle brought it up. I used to read a lot of
> Cordwainer Smith.

Disunforget the name of the book, but the leading character was
experimenting with some snake venom & started sloughing bits of skin.

He had a gril come round to his place & the scene contained the line:

"His face fell - so he quickly kicked it under the sideboard"

(might not have the exact details right.)

--
Sam Plusnet

On 30-Nov-21 13:45, Mike Fleming wrote:

> I thought it was one set of Kurds in three countries. <checks> make that
> four countries. They could do with Kurdistan becoming an independent
> entity recognised and protected by the UN (as promised 101 years ago).

<Quibbling for pedants> [1]

I'm pretty sure the UN didn't promise anything to anyone 101 years ago.

[1] Or possibly pedantry for quibblers.

--
Sam Plusnet

On 30/11/2021 18:48, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Nov 2021 18:24:11 +0000
> RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 30/11/2021 17:56, Sn!pe wrote:
>>> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>> i'm reminded of a New Scientist article (earlymid80s) on the
>>>>>>>>>> history of the pushbike. That's a fairly simple obvious design,
>>>>>>>>>> you'd think ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hmm Penny Farthing - I tried to ride one once
>>>>>>>>> and just kept falling off.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> TBF, I did that first time on a more-usual one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I did it first time on a motorcycle.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are we still talking about faling off bikes?
>>>>>>
>>>>> I reckon not, although you might fall off as a result of
>>>>> doing it on a motorcycle.
>>>>
>>>> Lbooyd drafty too, but not as bad as the Sopwith.
>>>
>>> # The frkhny yvsr of the Camel
>>> # Is stranger than anyone thinks
>>
>> # At the height of the mating season
>
> Hey there's a camel at the cloth shed flap asking if we're up for
> digging out some sand for him.

Too late: Wilson, Keppel and Betty got there first.

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

On 30/11/2021 21:27, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> On 30-Nov-21 13:45, Mike Fleming wrote:
>
>> I thought it was one set of Kurds in three countries. <checks> make
>> that four countries. They could do with Kurdistan becoming an
>> independent entity recognised and protected by the UN (as promised 101
>> years ago).
>
> <Quibbling for pedants> [1]
>
> I'm pretty sure the UN didn't promise anything to anyone 101 years ago.
>
> [1] Or possibly pedantry for quibblers.

Independent entity was thoughbut.

On Tue, 30 Nov 2021 22:41:59 +0000
RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:

> On 30/11/2021 18:48, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> > On Tue, 30 Nov 2021 18:24:11 +0000
> > RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> On 30/11/2021 17:56, Sn!pe wrote:
> >>> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
> >>> [...]
> >>>>>>>>>> i'm reminded of a New Scientist article (earlymid80s) on the
> >>>>>>>>>> history of the pushbike. That's a fairly simple obvious design,
> >>>>>>>>>> you'd think ?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hmm Penny Farthing - I tried to ride one once
> >>>>>>>>> and just kept falling off.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> TBF, I did that first time on a more-usual one.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I did it first time on a motorcycle.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Are we still talking about faling off bikes?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> I reckon not, although you might fall off as a result of
> >>>>> doing it on a motorcycle.
> >>>>
> >>>> Lbooyd drafty too, but not as bad as the Sopwith.
> >>>
> >>> # The frkhny yvsr of the Camel
> >>> # Is stranger than anyone thinks
> >>
> >> # At the height of the mating season
> >
> > Hey there's a camel at the cloth shed flap asking if we're up
> > for digging out some sand for him.
>
> Too late: Wilson, Keppel and Betty got there first.

Quietly please don't let him hear that - I'm negotiating the cevpr.

<THWAP><Ouch><Yeuch>Too late - good aim those camels.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
[...]
> > >>>>>>> I did it first time on a motorcycle.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Are we still talking about faling off bikes?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> I reckon not, although you might fall off
> > >>>>> as a result of doing it on a motorcycle.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Lbooyd drafty too, but not as bad as the Sopwith.
> > >>>
> > >>> # The frkhny yvsr of the Camel
> > >>> # Is stranger than anyone thinks
> > >>
> > >> # At the height of the mating season
> > >
> > > Hey there's a camel at the cloth shed flap asking
> > > if we're up for digging out some sand for him.
> >
> > Too late: Wilson, Keppel and Betty got there first.
>
> Quietly please don't let him hear that - I'm negotiating the cevpr.
Ride 'im, camelboy! (into town, obvs.)

--
^Ï^ <https://youtu.be/_kqytf31a8E>

My pet rock Gordon just is.

On 29/11/2021 19:25, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> On 29-Nov-21 15:25, Maus wrote:
>
>> I have studied the porn-frage for many years, and I have come to the
>> conclusion that girls look more appealing in bikinis than bare.
>
> Extensive research needed.
> Gizza grant.
>
>

We must keep a breast of these things.

Tone

On 30/11/2021 15:38, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
> I reckon not, although you might fall off as a result of doing it on a
> motorcycle.

I did it in a double adult side-car once. That was cosy. I wasn't alone
either.

Tone

On 01-Dec-21 9:51, Tone wrote:
> On 29/11/2021 19:25, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>> On 29-Nov-21 15:25, Maus wrote:
>>
>>> I have studied the porn-frage for many years, and I have come to the
>>> conclusion that girls look more appealing in bikinis than bare.
>>
>> Extensive research needed.
>> Gizza grant.
>>
>>
>
> We must keep a breast of these things.

What a singular comment.

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Sam Plusnet