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Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 18:20:52 +1000
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 by: Max - Wed, 18 May 2022 08:20 UTC

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-18/voluntary-assisted-dying-third-reading/101075382

Euthanasia bill in NSW likely to pass parliament tonight, making NSW the
last state to pass such legislation.

Then it will be a further 18 months before anyone can take advantage of
the new laws.

This shows that NSW is the most conservative state. It the last state
(plus a further 18 months) to allow euthanasia.

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 18 May 2022 09:43 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote

> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-18/voluntary-assisted-dying-third-reading/101075382

> Euthanasia bill in NSW likely to pass parliament tonight, making NSW the
> last state to pass such legislation.

> Then it will be a further 18 months before anyone can take advantage of
> the new laws.

That remains to be seen given that you have no way of knowing what
amendment might get up.

> This shows that NSW is the most conservative state.

Bullshit it does given that was nothing even remotely like the
last state to allow abortions, or to legalise brothels etc etc etc.

> It the last state

> (plus a further 18 months) to allow euthanasia.

That remains to be seen given that you have no way of knowing what
amendment might get up.

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 by: Sylvia Else - Wed, 18 May 2022 11:46 UTC

On 18-May-22 6:20 pm, Max wrote:
> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-18/voluntary-assisted-dying-third-reading/101075382
>
>
> Euthanasia bill in NSW likely to pass parliament tonight, making NSW the
> last state to pass such legislation.
>
> Then it will be a further 18 months before anyone can take advantage of
> the new laws.
>
> This shows that NSW is the most conservative state.  It the last state
> (plus a further 18 months) to allow euthanasia.

Though it will do nothing for people who are completely paralysed, but
not going to die any time soon, even if they are in tractable pain.

But it's a start, I suppose.

Sylvia.

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Max the wog IDIOT wrote:
=====================
>
> This shows that NSW is the most conservative state.
>

** You need to define " conservative " - fuckwit

FYI The term is very much a positive quality.

...... Phil

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 by: Max - Thu, 19 May 2022 02:38 UTC

On 18/05/2022 10:41 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
> Max the wog IDIOT wrote:
> =====================
>>
>> This shows that NSW is the most conservative state.
>>
>
> ** You need to define " conservative " - fuckwit
>
> FYI The term is very much a positive quality.
>

Conservative means resistant to change.

NSW is the last to decriminalise abortion and euthanasia.

People in NSW are resistant to change and are therefore conservative.
Conservatism is not necessarily a positive quality.

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 by: Max - Thu, 19 May 2022 02:43 UTC

On 18/05/2022 7:43 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>
>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-18/voluntary-assisted-dying-third-reading/101075382
>>
>
>> Euthanasia bill in NSW likely to pass parliament tonight, making NSW
>> the last state to pass such legislation.
>
>> Then it will be a further 18 months before anyone can take advantage
>> of the new laws.
>
> That remains to be seen given that you have no way of knowing what
> amendment might get up.
>
>> This shows that NSW is the most conservative state.
>
> Bullshit it does given that was nothing even remotely like the
> last state to allow abortions, or to legalise brothels etc etc etc.
>

Wrong:

"NSW is the last state to decriminalise abortion."

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/aug/19/nsw-abortion-law-the-decriminalisation-reform-bill-explained

NSW is the most conservative state. Look at the current Premier. Only
a conservative state would have someone like that as Premier.

>> It the last state
>
>> (plus a further 18 months) to allow euthanasia.
>
> That remains to be seen given that you have no way of knowing what
> amendment might get up.

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 19 May 2022 02:49 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Phil Allison wrote
>> Max wrote

>>> This shows that NSW is the most conservative state.

Nope, dope.

>> You need to define " conservative " - fuckwit
>> FYI The term is very much a positive quality.

> Conservative means resistant to change.

> NSW is the last to decriminalise abortion

Wrong, as always. SA was.

> and euthanasia.

Wrong, as always. The NT and ACT still haven't done that.

And NSW was one of the first to decriminalise poofters.

> People in NSW are resistant to change

Wrong, as always.

> and are therefore conservative.

Plenty of others are even more conservative.

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 19 May 2022 02:55 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote

>>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-18/voluntary-assisted-dying-third-reading/101075382

>>> Euthanasia bill in NSW likely to pass parliament tonight,making NSW
>>> the last state to pass such legislation.

>>> Then it will be a further 18 months beforeanyone can take advantage
>>> of the new laws.

>> That remains to be seen given that you have noway of knowing what
>> amendment might get up.

>>> This shows that NSW is the most conservative state.

>> Bullshit it does given that was nothing even remotely like the
>> last state to allow abortions, or to legalise brothels etc etc etc.

> Wrong:

Nope.

> "NSW is the last state to decriminalise abortion."

Nope, SA has only just done that.

> https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/aug/19/nsw-abortion-law-the-decriminalisation-reform-bill-explained

Just because that shit rag claims something...

> NSW is the most conservative state.

Wrong, as always.

> Look at the current Premier.

A premier is only there for a while and the voters
don't decide who gets to be premier anyway.

> Only a conservative state wouldhave someone like that as Premier.

Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.

Pity about Qld for many years.

Pity about legalising poofters, brothels, poker machines etc etc etc.

>>> It the last state

>>> (plus a further 18 months) to allow euthanasia.

>> That remains to be seen given that you have noway of knowing what
>> amendment might get up.

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 by: Phil Allison - Thu, 19 May 2022 04:55 UTC

Max the wog IDIOT wrote:
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> >> This shows that NSW is the most conservative state.
> >
> > ** You need to define " conservative " - fuckwit
> >
> > FYI The term is very much a positive quality.
> >
> Conservative means resistant to change.
>

** That is a good thing - cost most proposed changes are both stupid and bad.

> People in NSW are resistant to change and are therefore conservative.

** Utter bullshi.,

> Conservatism is not necessarily a positive quality.

** But it very mush IS is in most cases.

"' If it ain't broke, don't fix it ".

Only fools and communists want change all the time.

....... Phil

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 by: Max - Fri, 20 May 2022 01:24 UTC

On 19/05/2022 12:49 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>> Phil Allison wrote
>>> Max wrote
>
>>>> This shows that NSW is the most conservative state.
>
> Nope, dope.
>
>>>  You need to define  " conservative "  - fuckwit
>>>  FYI    The term is very much a positive quality.
>
>> Conservative means resistant to change.
>
>> NSW is the last to decriminalise abortion
>
> Wrong, as always. SA was.
>

Are you saying you know more than The Guardian newspaper on this?

>> and euthanasia.
>
> Wrong, as always. The NT and ACT still haven't done that.
>
> And NSW was one of the first to decriminalise poofters.
>
>> People in NSW are resistant to change
>
> Wrong, as always.
>
>> and are therefore conservative.
>
> Plenty of others are even more conservative.

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 by: Max - Fri, 20 May 2022 01:31 UTC

On 19/05/2022 2:55 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
> Max the wog IDIOT wrote:
> =====================
>>>
>>>> This shows that NSW is the most conservative state.
>>>
>>> ** You need to define " conservative " - fuckwit
>>>
>>> FYI The term is very much a positive quality.
>>>
>> Conservative means resistant to change.
>>
>
> ** That is a good thing - cost most proposed changes are both stupid and bad.
>
>> People in NSW are resistant to change and are therefore conservative.
>
> ** Utter bullshi.,
>
>> Conservatism is not necessarily a positive quality.
>
> ** But it very mush IS is in most cases.
>
> "' If it ain't broke, don't fix it ".
>
> Only fools and communists want change all the time.
>

NSW thinks it is being strong in resisting change. In fact, it is just
too caught up in its own bullshit to notice what other states are doing.

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 by: Max - Fri, 20 May 2022 01:35 UTC

On 19/05/2022 12:55 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>
>>>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-18/voluntary-assisted-dying-third-reading/101075382
>>>>
>
>>>> Euthanasia bill in NSW likely to pass parliament tonight,making NSW
>>>> the last state to pass such legislation.
>
>>>> Then it will be a further 18 months beforeanyone can take advantage
>>>> of the new laws.
>
>>>  That remains to be seen given that you have noway of knowing what
>>> amendment might get up.
>
>>>> This shows that NSW is the most conservative state.
>
>>>  Bullshit it does given that was nothing even remotely like the
>>> last state to allow abortions, or to legalise brothels etc etc etc.
>
>> Wrong:
>
> Nope.
>
>> "NSW is the last state to decriminalise abortion."
>
> Nope, SA has only just done that.
>
>> https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/aug/19/nsw-abortion-law-the-decriminalisation-reform-bill-explained
>>
>
> Just because that shit rag claims something...
>

It's highly unlikely The Guardian newspaper would be wrong about this.

>> NSW is the most conservative state.
>
> Wrong, as always.
>
>> Look at the current Premier.
>
> A premier is only there for a while and the voters
> don't decide who gets to be premier anyway.
>
>> Only a conservative state wouldhave someone like that as Premier.
>
> Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.
>
> Pity about Qld for many years.
>
> Pity about legalising poofters, brothels, poker machines etc etc etc.
>

SA, NT and ACT legalised homosexuality before NSW, so you are wrong
about that.

>>>> It the last state
>
>>>> (plus a further 18 months) to allow euthanasia.
>
>>> That remains to be seen given that you have noway of knowing what
>>> amendment might get up.

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 by: Rod Speed - Fri, 20 May 2022 03:08 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>> Max wrote

>>>>> This shows that NSW is the most conservative state.

>> Nope, dope.

>>>> You need to define " conservative " - fuckwit
>>>> FYI The term is very much a positive quality.

>>> Conservative means resistant to change.

>>> NSW is the last to decriminalise abortion

>> Wrong, as always. SA was.

> Are you saying you know more than The Guardian newspaper on this?

Yep, trivial to check the facts and see that shit rag is wrong again.

NSW legalised abortion long before SA did. And in QLD it still isnt legal.

>>> and euthanasia.

>> Wrong, as always. The NT and ACT still haven't done that.
>> And NSW was one of the first to decriminalise poofters.

>>> People in NSW are resistant to change

>> Wrong, as always.

>>> and are therefore conservative.

>> Plenty of others are even more conservative.

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 by: Rod Speed - Fri, 20 May 2022 03:14 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Phil Allison wrote
>> Max wrote

>>>>> This shows that NSW is the most conservative state.

>>>> You need to define " conservative " - fuckwit

>>>> FYI The term is very much a positive quality.

>>> Conservative means resistant to change.

>> That is a good thing - cost most proposedchanges are both stupid and
>> bad.

>>> People in NSW are resistant to change and are therefore conservative.

>> Utter bullshi.,

>>> Conservatism is not necessarily a positive quality.

>> But it very mush IS is in most cases.
>> "' If it ain't broke, don't fix it ".
>> Only fools and communists want change all the time.

> NSW thinks it is being strong in resisting change.

More of your utterly mindless bullshit with all of abortioh,
poofters, poker machines, grog laws etc etc etc.

> In fact, it is just too caught up in its ownbullshit to notice what
> other states are doing.

Nothing to with what other states are doing, fuckwit.

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 by: Rod Speed - Fri, 20 May 2022 03:20 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote

>>>>> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-18/voluntary-assisted-dying-third-reading/101075382

>>>>> Euthanasia bill in NSW likely to pass parliament tonight,making NSW
>>>>> the last state to pass such legislation.

>>>>> Then it will be a further 18 months before
>>>>> anyone can take advantage of the new laws.

>>>> That remains to be seen given that you have no
>>>> way of knowing what amendment might get up.

>>>>> This shows that NSW is the most conservative state.

>>>> Bullshit it does given that was nothing even remotely like the
>>>> last state to allow abortions, or to legalise brothels etc etc etc.

>>> Wrong:

>> Nope.

>>> "NSW is the last state to decriminalise abortion."

>> Nope, SA has only just done that.

>>> https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/aug/19/nsw-abortion-law-the-decriminalisation-reform-bill-explained

>> Just because that shit rag claims something...

> It's highly unlikely The Guardian newspaper would be wrong about this.

Trivial to check that it is just plain wrong.

>>> NSW is the most conservative state.

>> Wrong, as always.

>>> Look at the current Premier.

>> A premier is only there for a while and the voters
>> don't decide who gets to be premier anyway.

>>> Only a conservative state wouldhave someone like that as Premier.

>> Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something.

>> Pity about Qld for many years.

>> Pity about legalising poofters, brothels, poker machines etc etc etc.

> SA, NT and ACT legalised homosexuality before NSW,

Wrong, as always. Tasmania in spades.

> so you are wrong about that.

Nope, dope.

And Victoria STILL has some council areas with no pubs at all.

And Qld doesnt even have legal brothels, and has stupid grog shop laws.

>>>>> It the last state

>>>>> (plus a further 18 months) to allow euthanasia.

>>>> That remains to be seen given that you have noway of knowing what
>>>> amendment might get up.

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