On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 11:06:05 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:

>In message <u2fts8$2c2fl$5@dont-email.me>, at 07:50:32 on Fri, 28 Apr
>2023, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>
>>>>> I can however report that a high-end Android 7.0 <<-- note the
>>>>> point- zero, which I had with me expressly to see what happened,
>>>>> didn't respond (nor does it have any "alerts" menuing).
>>>>
>>>> Hardly surprising.
>>>
>>> Give the amount of pre-publicity about Android 11, I wasn't the
>>> slightest bit surprised.
>>>
>>> Since then I've seen suggestions that not all [4G connected] Android 11
>>> phones were expected to work, either, because factory-fitted Android
>>> 11-12 (and possibly 13) needs to be updated with some fairly recent
>>> patch over-the-air, as well.
>>
>>Cite?
>
>I've read hundreds of postings in dozens of places, so don't remember
>where that one arose.
>
>>> Not all phone manufacturers are that good at issuing patches at all.
>>
>>The monthly security updates don't usually include new features or UI
>>changes.
>
>Not every update is a *security* patch.

They are called Android Security Updates, but I suppose they also include bug fixes. I don't suppose your phone has ever
received any, hence your consistent use of the wrong terminology?

In message <hv8n4i594qqvgfsfqv1v6rs5v12qe45hak@4ax.com>, at 11:49:38 on
Fri, 28 Apr 2023, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 11:06:05 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>
>>In message <u2fts8$2c2fl$5@dont-email.me>, at 07:50:32 on Fri, 28 Apr
>>2023, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>>
>>>>>> I can however report that a high-end Android 7.0 <<-- note the
>>>>>> point- zero, which I had with me expressly to see what happened,
>>>>>> didn't respond (nor does it have any "alerts" menuing).
>>>>>
>>>>> Hardly surprising.
>>>>
>>>> Give the amount of pre-publicity about Android 11, I wasn't the
>>>> slightest bit surprised.
>>>>
>>>> Since then I've seen suggestions that not all [4G connected] Android 11
>>>> phones were expected to work, either, because factory-fitted Android
>>>> 11-12 (and possibly 13) needs to be updated with some fairly recent
>>>> patch over-the-air, as well.
>>>
>>>Cite?
>>
>>I've read hundreds of postings in dozens of places, so don't remember
>>where that one arose.
>>
>>>> Not all phone manufacturers are that good at issuing patches at all.
>>>
>>>The monthly security updates don't usually include new features or UI
>>>changes.
>>
>>Not every update is a *security* patch.
>
>They are called Android Security Updates, but I suppose they also
>include bug fixes.

Sure there aren't any other forms of update? Or that your so-called
Security Updates don't misleadingly also include other sorts of patches.

>I don't suppose your phone has ever received any,

Which of the ten phones on the desk in front of me did you have in mind?

>hence your consistent use of the wrong terminology?

What's wrong with the phrase "security patch" - that's a description,
not jargon.

Later: ah-ha! The most recent of them tells me in the Settings what
its "Security patch level" is. In a menu called "Software update
information".
--
Roland Perry

In message <USEIDDKNq5SkFAZW@perry.uk>, at 11:06:05 on Fri, 28 Apr 2023,
Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> remarked:
>>>>> I can however report that a high-end Android 7.0 <<-- note the
>>>>> point- zero, which I had with me expressly to see what happened,
>>>>> didn't respond (nor does it have any "alerts" menuing).
>>>>
>>>> Hardly surprising.
>>>
>>> Give the amount of pre-publicity about Android 11, I wasn't the
>>> slightest bit surprised.
>>>
>>> Since then I've seen suggestions that not all [4G connected] Android 11
>>> phones were expected to work, either, because factory-fitted Android
>>> 11-12 (and possibly 13) needs to be updated with some fairly recent
>>> patch over-the-air, as well.
>>
>>Cite?
>
>I've read hundreds of postings in dozens of places, so don't remember
>where that one arose.

And it didn't occur to me until this morning it might have been right in
your face, already in the thread. So here it is:

"Finally we have the handsets (3) which require the right software
for the cell broadcasts to be received and displayed correctly. Many
handsets are ready ‘out of the box’ but in the case of Apple and
the
main Android manufacturers an over the air install is required to
activate this and to ensure the correct spec defined for that
country is displayed (more on this later)."
--
Roland Perry