Sums it, what a strange world we now live in now a days, from elsewhere. ��

It snowed last night...

8:00 am: I made a snowman.
8:10 - A feminist passed by and asked me why I didn't make a snow woman.
8:15 - So, I made a snow woman.
8:17 - My feminist neighbour complained about the snow woman's voluptuous
chest saying it objectified snow women everywhere.
8:20 - The gay couple living nearby threw a hissy fit and moaned it could
have been two snow men instead.
8:22 - The transgender man.. women...person asked why I didn't just make
one snow person with detachable parts.
8:25 - The vegans at the end of the lane complained about the carrot nose,
as veggies are food and not to decorate snow figures with.
8:28 - I was being called a racist because the snow couple is white.
8:31 - The middle eastern gent across the road demanded the snow woman be
covered up .
8:40 - The Police arrived saying someone had been offended.
8:42 - The feminist neighbour complained again that the broomstick of the
snow woman needed to be removed because it depicted women in a domestic
role.
8:43 - The council equality officer arrived and threatened me with
eviction.
8:45 - TV news crew from BBC showed up. I was asked if I know the
difference between snowmen and snow-women? I replied "Snowballs" and am now
called a sexist.
9:00 - I was on the News as a suspected terrorist, racist, homophobe
sensibility offender, bent on stirring up trouble during difficult weather.
9:10 - I was asked if I have any accomplices. My children were taken by
social services.
9:29 - Far left protesters offended by everything marched down the street
demanding for me to be arrested.

By noon it all melted

Moral:
There is no moral to this story. It is what this Country has become ....
and all because of snowflakes.
--
Jim S

Jim S said:
> Sums it, what a strange world we now live in now a days, from elsewhere.
>
> It snowed last night...
> ...
> Moral:
> There is no moral to this story. It is what this Country has become ....
> and all because of snowflakes.

What odd neighbours some people seem to have.

Personally, I'd think it more worth noting that snowflakes can be an
argument against heating your home with electricity.

--
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"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

On 03/12/2021 11:24, Richard Robinson wrote:
> Jim S said:
>> Sums it, what a strange world we now live in now a days, from elsewhere.
>>
>> It snowed last night...
>> ...
>> Moral:
>> There is no moral to this story. It is what this Country has become ....
>> and all because of snowflakes.
>
> What odd neighbours some people seem to have.
>
> Personally, I'd think it more worth noting that snowflakes can be an
> argument against heating your home with electricity.
>
The electricity I will be heating the flat I just bought and am about to
move into with claims to be from 100% renewable sources. Unlike the gas
that was taken out a few years ago, though I suspect a touch if fudging
is going on as I am connected to the grid, and renewables are not 100&
reliable.

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Tciao for Now!

John.

Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
> Sums it, what a strange world we now live in now a days, from elsewhere. ي ¾ي´”
>
> It snowed last night...
>
> 8:00 am: I made a snowman.
> 8:10 - A feminist passed by and asked me why I didn't make a snow woman.
> 8:15 - So, I made a snow woman.
> 8:17 - My feminist neighbour complained about the snow woman's voluptuous
> chest saying it objectified snow women everywhere.
> 8:20 - The gay couple living nearby threw a hissy fit and moaned it could
> have been two snow men instead.
> 8:22 - The transgender man.. women...person asked why I didn't just make
> one snow person with detachable parts.
> 8:25 - The vegans at the end of the lane complained about the carrot nose,
> as veggies are food and not to decorate snow figures with.
> 8:28 - I was being called a racist because the snow couple is white.
> 8:31 - The middle eastern gent across the road demanded the snow woman be
> covered up .
> 8:40 - The Police arrived saying someone had been offended.
> 8:42 - The feminist neighbour complained again that the broomstick of the
> snow woman needed to be removed because it depicted women in a domestic
> role.
> 8:43 - The council equality officer arrived and threatened me with
> eviction.
> 8:45 - TV news crew from BBC showed up. I was asked if I know the
> difference between snowmen and snow-women? I replied "Snowballs" and am now
> called a sexist.
> 9:00 - I was on the News as a suspected terrorist, racist, homophobe
> sensibility offender, bent on stirring up trouble during difficult weather.
> 9:10 - I was asked if I have any accomplices. My children were taken by
> social services.
> 9:29 - Far left protesters offended by everything marched down the street
> demanding for me to be arrested.
>
> By noon it all melted
>
> Moral:
> There is no moral to this story. It is what this Country has become ....
> and all because of snowflakes.

Reminds me of…

https://twitter.com/calvinn_hobbes/status/1342258798770184192?lang=da

Tim

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On Fri, 3 Dec 2021 11:31:02 +0000
John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:

> though I suspect a touch if fudging
> is going on as I am connected to the grid, and renewables are not 100&
> reliable.

Sort of - the fudging (AIUI) goes like this.

The "green" domestic energy provider sells X gigawatt hours to
customers in the month and pays assorted wind and solar farm operators to
deliver X gigawatt hours to the grid during that month. They've probably
got a very good idea of what X is up front and good tracking of how it's
goiing during the month. The grid takes the contracted amount of solar and
wind energy when it's available and can be used somewhere and supplies the
demand from whatever sources are available at the time of the demand. When
the wind/solar farmer has delivered all the energy they've been paid for
they probably stop delivering.

Somebody pays for every joule that goes in and so for every joule
that you take out a green joule goes in paid for with your money - just not
necessarily at exactly the same time.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:

> It snowed last night...

An interesting video about snowflakes,
well worth 18 minutes of your time:

<https://youtu.be/ao2Jfm35XeE>

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On Fri, 3 Dec 2021 15:53:16 +0000
snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:

> Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > It snowed last night...
>
> An interesting video about snowflakes,
> well worth 18 minutes of your time:
>
> <https://youtu.be/ao2Jfm35XeE>

IAWTP.

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On 03/12/2021 20:20, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Dec 2021 15:53:16 +0000
> snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:
>
>> Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> It snowed last night...
>>
>> An interesting video about snowflakes,
>> well worth 18 minutes of your time:
>>
>> <https://youtu.be/ao2Jfm35XeE>
>
> IAWTP.
>

"No two trees are the same, either".

Good point.

Tone

Actually what you are describing is nothing to do with any of the forgoing,
it is the tendency these days to assume you are deliberately being
obnoxious. This is because many are deliberately obnoxious and the old live
and let live seems to be out the window for the what money or other brownie
points can we make of this.
Radio hams have issues like this and I'm glad to say that councils are now
railing against this.
The scenario is that radio ham has large aerial and its been there for over
a decade. Somebody either builds a block of flats overlooking the property
or new residents move in to existing property then moan about it being an
eyesore. In the past the Ham had to look up all his old permissions etc and
there was still animosity. However increasingly, I'm glad to say, Councils
are taking the more sensible route saying, That was there when you moved in,
You could have moved somewhere else after all.
That is logic at work, but in many other cases this line of obviousness
seems to elude people.

I mean if you don't like the look of a snowperson, then don't bloody look at
it!

I guess you could as somebody did round here I'm told build a snow dinosaur
instead.
Brian

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"Jim S" <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote in message
news:zokh0lw8bc77.1xnnvocu47nb9.dlg@40tude.net...
> Sums it, what a strange world we now live in now a days, from elsewhere.
> ????
>
> It snowed last night...
>
> 8:00 am: I made a snowman.
> 8:10 - A feminist passed by and asked me why I didn't make a snow woman.
> 8:15 - So, I made a snow woman.
> 8:17 - My feminist neighbour complained about the snow woman's voluptuous
> chest saying it objectified snow women everywhere.
> 8:20 - The gay couple living nearby threw a hissy fit and moaned it could
> have been two snow men instead.
> 8:22 - The transgender man.. women...person asked why I didn't just make
> one snow person with detachable parts.
> 8:25 - The vegans at the end of the lane complained about the carrot nose,
> as veggies are food and not to decorate snow figures with.
> 8:28 - I was being called a racist because the snow couple is white.
> 8:31 - The middle eastern gent across the road demanded the snow woman be
> covered up .
> 8:40 - The Police arrived saying someone had been offended.
> 8:42 - The feminist neighbour complained again that the broomstick of the
> snow woman needed to be removed because it depicted women in a domestic
> role.
> 8:43 - The council equality officer arrived and threatened me with
> eviction.
> 8:45 - TV news crew from BBC showed up. I was asked if I know the
> difference between snowmen and snow-women? I replied "Snowballs" and am
> now
> called a sexist.
> 9:00 - I was on the News as a suspected terrorist, racist, homophobe
> sensibility offender, bent on stirring up trouble during difficult
> weather.
> 9:10 - I was asked if I have any accomplices. My children were taken by
> social services.
> 9:29 - Far left protesters offended by everything marched down the street
> demanding for me to be arrested.
>
> By noon it all melted
>
> Moral:
> There is no moral to this story. It is what this Country has become ....
> and all because of snowflakes.
> --
> Jim S

On Sat, 4 Dec 2021 10:44:13 -0000
"Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> I mean if you don't like the look of a snowperson, then don't bloody look
> at it!

Almost but not quite the correct answer to everyone who came
objecting in that story - here is the universal correct answer IMHO

"I believe in and actively support diversity in all matters,
therefore I make my snow art to suit my own personal taste limited by my
skills such as they are. I look forward to everyone else doing the same
so that we may all enjoy the wonderfully diverse and original snow art that
will undoubtedly result. Well ? What are you waiting for ? Get building!"

--
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Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

On 03/12/2021 11:24, Richard Robinson wrote:
> Jim S said:
>> Sums it, what a strange world we now live in now a days, from elsewhere.
>>
>> It snowed last night...
>> ...
>> Moral:
>> There is no moral to this story. It is what this Country has become ....
>> and all because of snowflakes.
>
> What odd neighbours some people seem to have.
>
> Personally, I'd think it more worth noting that snowflakes can be an
> argument against heating your home with electricity.

One of the cut-off persons was interviewed on the BBC last night and
said she's be getting rid of her electric heater and putting in a
woodburner. So she'll be contributing more to the global warming that's
causing extreme weather events. Don't think she'd thought that one through.

Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> wrote in
news:j11bhmF67e9U2@mid.individual.net:

> One of the cut-off persons was interviewed on the BBC last night and
> said she's be getting rid of her electric heater and putting in a
> woodburner. So she'll be contributing more to the global warming
> that's causing extreme weather events. Don't think she'd thought that
> one through.

Deep ends where she gets her wood. If she collects it locally, burning it
would be at least carbon neutral (but quite polluting in other ways).
But from what I hear, most wood for burning is imported from the other
side of the whirled, and is definitely not neutral.

--
Peter
-----

Mike Fleming said:
> On 03/12/2021 11:24, Richard Robinson wrote:
>> Jim S said:
>>> Sums it, what a strange world we now live in now a days, from
>>> elsewhere.
>>>
>>> It snowed last night... ... Moral: There is no moral to this
>>> story. It is what this Country has become .... and all because of
>>> snowflakes.
>>
>> What odd neighbours some people seem to have.
>>
>> Personally, I'd think it more worth noting that snowflakes can be an
>> argument against heating your home with electricity.
>
> One of the cut-off persons was interviewed on the BBC last night and
> said she's be getting rid of her electric heater and putting in a
> woodburner. So she'll be contributing more to the global warming
> that's causing extreme weather events. Don't think she'd thought that
> one through.

But what other conclusion could she come to, given that it obviously
doesn't make sense to rely on electrickery to keep her home warm ? I'd
say it's the viable alternatives that haven't been thought out.

[woodburning wouldn't be necessarily be destabilising, in a stable
system; given perfectly spherical values of all other variables, of
course]

This is personal, too. The house is a 2up2down terrace, with modern
doors&windows, insulation above upstairs and an open stairwell, ie 1 big
space. No boiler/radiators, one of the downstairs ex-rooms has a
wallmounted gas fire, which is enough for the warm months, and I used to
have a solidfool stove in the other ex-room for winter; which last has
now reached the end of its life. So I'm not pleased to be burning so
much gas at a time of pricehikes, and I don't really see any attractive
possibilities for what to do about anything else. There are good
arguments for owning a store of something you can set fire to, and
others for why it's not in the public interest, and gas likewise. The
only non-destructive possibility is nongreenwashedrenewable, and you
can't rely on the mains to deliver it, would you want to pay for some
local storage just in case ? and it costs a lot more than gas. And I
Don't Believe In heat pumps, anyway. Not for here.

--
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"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

Peter <myshed@prune.org.uk> wrote:
> Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> wrote in
> news:j11bhmF67e9U2@mid.individual.net:
>
>> One of the cut-off persons was interviewed on the BBC last night and
>> said she's be getting rid of her electric heater and putting in a
>> woodburner. So she'll be contributing more to the global warming
>> that's causing extreme weather events. Don't think she'd thought that
>> one through.
>
> Deep ends where she gets her wood. If she collects it locally, burning it
> would be at least carbon neutral (but quite polluting in other ways).
> But from what I hear, most wood for burning is imported from the other
> side of the whirled, and is definitely not neutral.
>

That’s what I do. I dry it well and there’s absolutely no *visible* smoke
when I burn it. Whether that means it’s okay for the environment I don’t
know but it’s hard to get too excited about something that we lived with
for years already.

I may not be ancient but I’ve live long enough to see lots of new ideas
adopted and then discarded. I reckon in a few years it’ll be realised that
log burners enhance life and make people healthier.

Tim

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On 04/12/2021 18:09, Tim+ wrote:
> That’s what I do. I dry it well and there’s absolutely no *visible* smoke
> when I burn it. Whether that means it’s okay for the environment I don’t
> know but it’s hard to get too excited about something that we lived with
> for years already.
>
The current belief among some local authorities is that in some inner
city areas, a *lot* of people are installing wood burners in addition to
or instead of other types of heating. As a result, there has been a
major increase there in the number of particles in the air of a size
likely to cause lung problems. (Remember the famous London "pea soupers"?)

As a result, said authorities are clamping down on the fuels allowed to
be sold as well as the types of stove you are allowed to install.

This is really annoying the boat dwellers on the canals, who have no
sensible way to heat their boats other than by burning solid fuel, and
the approved stuff is very definitely not cheap. It has also led to
anomalies where boats on one side of a bridge are allowed to burn
whatever they wish, but if they go through the bridge hole, they have to
either use the correct fuel or put their stoves out, then, when they go
through the next bridge, it's fine to light the smoky stove again. In
other places, the dividing line is the centre of the canal...

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John.

On 04/12/2021 15:40, Richard Robinson wrote:
> Mike Fleming said:
>> On 03/12/2021 11:24, Richard Robinson wrote:
>>> Jim S said:
>>>> Sums it, what a strange world we now live in now a days, from
>>>> elsewhere.
>>>>
>>>> It snowed last night... ... Moral: There is no moral to this
>>>> story. It is what this Country has become .... and all because of
>>>> snowflakes.
>>>
>>> What odd neighbours some people seem to have.
>>>
>>> Personally, I'd think it more worth noting that snowflakes can be an
>>> argument against heating your home with electricity.
>>
>> One of the cut-off persons was interviewed on the BBC last night and
>> said she's be getting rid of her electric heater and putting in a
>> woodburner. So she'll be contributing more to the global warming
>> that's causing extreme weather events. Don't think she'd thought that
>> one through.
>
> But what other conclusion could she come to, given that it obviously
> doesn't make sense to rely on electrickery to keep her home warm ? I'd
> say it's the viable alternatives that haven't been thought out.

It simply needs improvements to the electricity supply infrastructure,
like keeping it away from trees, to improve the reliability - which,
after all, isn't that bad. It's a very knee-jerk reaction.

On 04/12/2021 18:42, Mike Fleming wrote:
> On 04/12/2021 15:40, Richard Robinson wrote:

>> But what other conclusion could she come to, given that it obviously
>> doesn't make sense to rely on electrickery to keep her home warm ? I'd
>> say it's the viable alternatives that haven't been thought out.
>
> It simply needs improvements to the electricity supply infrastructure,
> like keeping it away from trees, to improve the reliability - which,
> after all, isn't that bad. It's a very knee-jerk reaction.

This, but...

When I had a house in a small village at the end of a long mains supply
line, I, and as far as I could tell, everyone else, had electric stuff
for convenience, plus a fireplace or two for heat, a solid fuel or oil
range for cooking, and a set of decent paraffin lamps. All the local
farmers had standby generators.... (Quite a few of which I had supplied,
but that's another story.)

(As an aside, I am, currently ohling a flat where the power was
disconnected many years sgo due to it being empty, but still have the
paraffin lamps and there is a fireplace ready if I were to move in
tomorrow... Add a couple of portable catalytic heaters, and I'd be good
to go until the flaptop flattery went bat. About six hours on this one,
but I can recharge it from the Landie. The Kindle is good for a couple
of weeks of reading.)
--
Tciao for Now!

John.

On 04-Dec-21 15:14, Peter wrote:
> Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> wrote in
> news:j11bhmF67e9U2@mid.individual.net:
>
>> One of the cut-off persons was interviewed on the BBC last night and
>> said she's be getting rid of her electric heater and putting in a
>> woodburner. So she'll be contributing more to the global warming
>> that's causing extreme weather events. Don't think she'd thought that
>> one through.
>
> Deep ends where she gets her wood. If she collects it locally, burning it
> would be at least carbon neutral (but quite polluting in other ways).
> But from what I hear, most wood for burning is imported from the other
> side of the whirled, and is definitely not neutral.
>
All the wood we have burned in the last three years came from the other
side of our garden.

(OK. A bit came from _this_ side.)

--
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On 04-Dec-21 15:40, Richard Robinson wrote:
> This is personal, too. The house is a 2up2down terrace, with modern
> doors&windows, insulation above upstairs and an open stairwell, ie 1 big
> space. No boiler/radiators, one of the downstairs ex-rooms has a
> wallmounted gas fire, which is enough for the warm months, and I used to
> have a solidfool stove in the other ex-room for winter; which last has
> now reached the end of its life. So I'm not pleased to be burning so
> much gas at a time of pricehikes, and I don't really see any attractive
> possibilities for what to do about anything else. There are good
> arguments for owning a store of something you can set fire to, and
> others for why it's not in the public interest, and gas likewise. The
> only non-destructive possibility is nongreenwashedrenewable, and you
> can't rely on the mains to deliver it, would you want to pay for some
> local storage just in case ? and it costs a lot more than gas. And I
> Don't Believe In heat pumps, anyway. Not for here.

A former cow-orker had a middle-of-a-terrace 2 up 2 down.
He didn't have _any_ form of heating, but relied on warmth supplied by
his neighbours on each side - coming through the thin party walls.

--
Sam Plusnet

On Sat, 4 Dec 2021 20:18:02 +0000
Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:

> On 04-Dec-21 15:14, Peter wrote:
> > Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> wrote in
> > news:j11bhmF67e9U2@mid.individual.net:
> >
> >> One of the cut-off persons was interviewed on the BBC last night
> >> and said she's be getting rid of her electric heater and putting
> >> in a woodburner. So she'll be contributing more to the global
> >> warming that's causing extreme weather events. Don't think she'd
> >> thought that one through.
> >
> > Deep ends where she gets her wood. If she collects it locally,
> > burning it would be at least carbon neutral (but quite polluting
> > in other ways). But from what I hear, most wood for burning is
> > imported from the other side of the whirled, and is definitely not
> > neutral.
> >
> All the wood we have burned in the last three years came from the
> other side of our garden.
>
> (OK. A bit came from _this_ side.)
>
That sounds like a big garden (or, as we call it, "a wood")
I've done some ash-dieback foraging; seems the council employees have
more than enough for themselves. Shame that they chip stuff that would
fit readily in my small stove.

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On Sat, 4 Dec 2021 14:16:21 +0000, Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk>
wrote:

>On 03/12/2021 11:24, Richard Robinson wrote:
>> Jim S said:
>>> Sums it, what a strange world we now live in now a days, from elsewhere.
>>>
>>> It snowed last night...
>>> ...
>>> Moral:
>>> There is no moral to this story. It is what this Country has become ....
>>> and all because of snowflakes.
>>
>> What odd neighbours some people seem to have.
>>
>> Personally, I'd think it more worth noting that snowflakes can be an
>> argument against heating your home with electricity.
>
>One of the cut-off persons was interviewed on the BBC last night and
>said she's be getting rid of her electric heater and putting in a
>woodburner. So she'll be contributing more to the global warming that's
>causing extreme weather events. Don't think she'd thought that one through.

Au contraire, mon ami, in the right hands, that's a loaded gun pointed
straight at the government.

See here, says the little old lady. There's not just me, there's
millions more of us. Get the electricity infrastructure right, keep us
warm through winter and you'll hear no more about it. But if our
lifeline electricity supply keeps failing, I've got this stove and
I've got this tonne of lignite and I know how to use it.

Nick

On Sat, 4 Dec 2021 20:38:00 +0000, "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1>
wrote:

>On Sat, 4 Dec 2021 20:18:02 +0000
>Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
>
>> On 04-Dec-21 15:14, Peter wrote:
>> > Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> wrote in
>> > news:j11bhmF67e9U2@mid.individual.net:
>> >
>> >> One of the cut-off persons was interviewed on the BBC last night
>> >> and said she's be getting rid of her electric heater and putting
>> >> in a woodburner. So she'll be contributing more to the global
>> >> warming that's causing extreme weather events. Don't think she'd
>> >> thought that one through.
>> >
>> > Deep ends where she gets her wood. If she collects it locally,
>> > burning it would be at least carbon neutral (but quite polluting
>> > in other ways). But from what I hear, most wood for burning is
>> > imported from the other side of the whirled, and is definitely not
>> > neutral.
>> >
>> All the wood we have burned in the last three years came from the
>> other side of our garden.
>>
>> (OK. A bit came from _this_ side.)
>>
>That sounds like a big garden (or, as we call it, "a wood")
>I've done some ash-dieback foraging; seems the council employees have
>more than enough for themselves. Shame that they chip stuff that would
>fit readily in my small stove.

My garden is small but I have three trees and a large hedge which I
trim and prune as needed. Throughout the summer I dry the wood out
thoroughly. Then I do the time-consuming bit: I sort it and convert it
into logs, twigs and leaves and compress the little stuff into tight
packs that will burn for a reasonable time. Most years I burn it on
those autumn evenings when it's not worth putting the whole of the
central heating on and those winter evenings when the CH needs a bit
of back-up. This year, with all the power dropouts around the country,
our lack of gas reserves, Mr Putin's ambitions and the planned
decommissioning of some of our generating capacity, I've stuffed all
my -erme- stuff into the inglenooks and I'm leaving it there. If the
electricity grid crashes I reckon I've got about two weeks' worth of
steady burning time in there.

Nick

On Sat, 04 Dec 2021 09:40:29 -0600, Richard Robinson
<richardR@privacy.net> wrote:

>And I
>Don't Believe In heat pumps, anyway.

<shocked!>
<small trembling voice>

Didn't you know?
Every time someone says I Don't Believe In Heat Pumps
One of them dies.

Nick

In message <00onqg5jdcevhokcm6qsk45s14l4igpgqg@4ax.com>, Nick Odell
<nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> writes
>Didn't you know?
>Every time someone says I Don't Believe In Heat Pumps
>One of them dies.
>

Which, a denier or a heat pump ?

Adrian
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On 04/12/2021 20:18, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> On 04-Dec-21 15:14, Peter wrote:
>> Mike Fleming <mike@tauzero.co.uk> wrote in
>> news:j11bhmF67e9U2@mid.individual.net:
>>
>>> One of the cut-off persons was interviewed on the BBC last night and
>>> said she's be getting rid of her electric heater and putting in a
>>> woodburner. So she'll be contributing more to the global warming
>>> that's causing extreme weather events. Don't think she'd thought that
>>> one through.
>>
>> Deep ends where she gets her wood. If she collects it locally, burning it
>> would be at least carbon neutral  (but quite polluting in other ways).
>> But from what I hear, most wood for burning is imported from the other
>> side of the whirled, and is definitely not neutral.
>>
> All the wood we have burned in the last three years came from the other
> side of our garden.
>
> (OK.  A bit came from _this_ side.)

How many years did the wood that you turned into carbon dioxide take to
turn the carbon dioxide into wood? This is where the "carbon neutrality"
of wood burning gets to be exposed as a phallusy (a load of cock).