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More ferry problems in Scotland

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From: recliner...@gmail.com (Recliner)
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by: Recliner - Tue, 2 May 2023 10:12 UTC

Island ferries not brilliant, admits minister after Orkney grounding

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/e73c4c3a-e82d-11ed-bf4a-7aba37244b0f?shareToken=10dd923535355239ccaadd67a62d5b1d

Officials from the Marine Accident Investigation Branch (MAIB) are
scheduled to arrive on site tomorrow as part of their investigation into
the incident which resulted in the Pentland Ferries catamaran getting into
trouble on Saturday evening.

There was reported to be smoke in the engine room when the vessel grounded
off St Margaret’s Hope, South Ronaldsay, with all 60 people taken ashore in
lifeboats.

The Maritime and Coastguard Agency (MCA) has suggested there was a sudden
mechanical fault on the ferry.

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From: rol...@perry.uk (Roland Perry)
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Subject: Re: More ferry problems in Scotland
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by: Roland Perry - Tue, 2 May 2023 10:30 UTC

In message <u2qnn2$n51j$5@dont-email.me>, at 10:12:50 on Tue, 2 May
2023, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>Island ferries not brilliant, admits minister after Orkney grounding
>
>https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/e73c4c3a-e82d-11ed-bf4a-7aba37244b0f?
>shareToken=10dd923535355239ccaadd67a62d5b1d
>
>Officials from the Marine Accident Investigation Branch (MAIB) are
>scheduled to arrive on site tomorrow as part of their investigation into
>the incident which resulted in the Pentland Ferries catamaran getting into
>trouble on Saturday evening.
>
>There was reported to be smoke in the engine room when the vessel grounded
>off St Margaret’s Hope, South Ronaldsay, with all 60 people taken ashore in
>lifeboats.
>
>The Maritime and Coastguard Agency (MCA) has suggested there was a sudden
>mechanical fault

Phew. Avoided a Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly, then?

It's the un-sudden mechanical faults which are the worst.

>on the ferry.

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From: rai...@greystane.shetland.co.uk (ColinR)
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by: ColinR - Tue, 2 May 2023 11:22 UTC

On 02/05/2023 11:12, Recliner wrote:
> Island ferries not brilliant, admits minister after Orkney grounding
>
> https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/e73c4c3a-e82d-11ed-bf4a-7aba37244b0f?shareToken=10dd923535355239ccaadd67a62d5b1d
>
> Officials from the Marine Accident Investigation Branch (MAIB) are
> scheduled to arrive on site tomorrow as part of their investigation into
> the incident which resulted in the Pentland Ferries catamaran getting into
> trouble on Saturday evening.
>
> There was reported to be smoke in the engine room when the vessel grounded
> off St Margaret’s Hope, South Ronaldsay, with all 60 people taken ashore in
> lifeboats.
>
> The Maritime and Coastguard Agency (MCA) has suggested there was a sudden
> mechanical fault on the ferry.

I find it a bit rich that the SNP / Scottish transport minister is
making comments about Pentland Ferries that is a commercial,
unsubsidised ferry route competing with the subsidised Northlink
Ferries. Not only have Pentland ferries prospered, but now have a much
newer fleet than the subsidised service.
https://www.orcadian.co.uk/managing-director-speaks-out-as-pentland-ferries-appeal-subsidy-challenge-outcome/

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Colin

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by: Recliner - Tue, 2 May 2023 11:29 UTC

On Tue, 2 May 2023 12:22:11 +0100, ColinR <rail@greystane.shetland.co.uk> wrote:

>On 02/05/2023 11:12, Recliner wrote:
>> Island ferries not brilliant, admits minister after Orkney grounding
>>
>> https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/e73c4c3a-e82d-11ed-bf4a-7aba37244b0f?shareToken=10dd923535355239ccaadd67a62d5b1d
>>
>> Officials from the Marine Accident Investigation Branch (MAIB) are
>> scheduled to arrive on site tomorrow as part of their investigation into
>> the incident which resulted in the Pentland Ferries catamaran getting into
>> trouble on Saturday evening.
>>
>> There was reported to be smoke in the engine room when the vessel grounded
>> off St Margaret’s Hope, South Ronaldsay, with all 60 people taken ashore in
>> lifeboats.
>>
>> The Maritime and Coastguard Agency (MCA) has suggested there was a sudden
>> mechanical fault on the ferry.
>
>I find it a bit rich that the SNP / Scottish transport minister is
>making comments about Pentland Ferries that is a commercial,
>unsubsidised ferry route competing with the subsidised Northlink
>Ferries. Not only have Pentland ferries prospered, but now have a much
>newer fleet than the subsidised service.
>https://www.orcadian.co.uk/managing-director-speaks-out-as-pentland-ferries-appeal-subsidy-challenge-outcome/

I guess the SNP (or its Green masters) just doesn't approve of private sector enterprises.

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by: Scott - Tue, 2 May 2023 11:34 UTC

On Tue, 2 May 2023 12:22:11 +0100, ColinR
<rail@greystane.shetland.co.uk> wrote:

>On 02/05/2023 11:12, Recliner wrote:
>> Island ferries not brilliant, admits minister after Orkney grounding
>>
>> https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/e73c4c3a-e82d-11ed-bf4a-7aba37244b0f?shareToken=10dd923535355239ccaadd67a62d5b1d
>>
>> Officials from the Marine Accident Investigation Branch (MAIB) are
>> scheduled to arrive on site tomorrow as part of their investigation into
>> the incident which resulted in the Pentland Ferries catamaran getting into
>> trouble on Saturday evening.
>>
>> There was reported to be smoke in the engine room when the vessel grounded
>> off St Margarets Hope, South Ronaldsay, with all 60 people taken ashore in
>> lifeboats.
>>
>> The Maritime and Coastguard Agency (MCA) has suggested there was a sudden
>> mechanical fault on the ferry.
>
>I find it a bit rich that the SNP / Scottish transport minister is
>making comments about Pentland Ferries that is a commercial,
>unsubsidised ferry route competing with the subsidised Northlink
>Ferries. Not only have Pentland ferries prospered, but now have a much
>newer fleet than the subsidised service.
>https://www.orcadian.co.uk/managing-director-speaks-out-as-pentland-ferries-appeal-subsidy-challenge-outcome/

Why did they lease the newer vessel (MV Alfred) to CalMac and return
MV Pentalina to service? Once Pentalina was certified seaworthy, it
would seem more logical for Pentland Ferries to continue to operate
their existing vessel. Or is it to do with size or something?

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by: ColinR - Tue, 2 May 2023 11:48 UTC

On 02/05/2023 12:22, ColinR wrote:
> On 02/05/2023 11:12, Recliner wrote:
>> Island ferries not brilliant, admits minister after Orkney grounding
>>
>> https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/e73c4c3a-e82d-11ed-bf4a-7aba37244b0f?shareToken=10dd923535355239ccaadd67a62d5b1d
>>
>> Officials from the Marine Accident Investigation Branch (MAIB) are
>> scheduled to arrive on site tomorrow as part of their investigation into
>> the incident which resulted in the Pentland Ferries catamaran getting
>> into
>> trouble on Saturday evening.
>>
>> There was reported to be smoke in the engine room when the vessel
>> grounded
>> off St Margaret’s Hope, South Ronaldsay, with all 60 people taken
>> ashore in
>> lifeboats.
>>
>> The Maritime and Coastguard Agency (MCA) has suggested there was a sudden
>> mechanical fault on the ferry.
>
> I find it a bit rich that the SNP / Scottish transport minister is
> making comments about Pentland Ferries that is a commercial,
> unsubsidised ferry route competing with the subsidised Northlink
> Ferries. Not only have Pentland ferries prospered, but now have a much
> newer fleet than the subsidised service.
> https://www.orcadian.co.uk/managing-director-speaks-out-as-pentland-ferries-appeal-subsidy-challenge-outcome/
>

Two BBC reports. The first is fairly well balanced. The second is purely
politicians bumping their gums trying to justify their existence!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-65441218
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-65447156

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Colin

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by: MB - Tue, 2 May 2023 12:02 UTC

Subject	Author
More ferry problems in Scotland	Recliner
More ferry problems in Scotland	Roland Perry
More ferry problems in Scotland	ColinR
More ferry problems in Scotland	Recliner
More ferry problems in Scotland	Scott
More ferry problems in Scotland	ColinR
More ferry problems in Scotland	MB