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* Rapid unscheduled detrainmentRoland Perry
+- Rapid unscheduled detrainmentRecliner
`* Rapid unscheduled detrainmentClive Page
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From: rol...@perry.uk (Roland Perry)
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Subject: Rapid unscheduled detrainment
Date: Fri, 5 May 2023 19:58:41 +0100
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 by: Roland Perry - Fri, 5 May 2023 18:58 UTC

<https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/05/05/london-tube-clapham-
common-windows/>
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 by: Recliner - Fri, 5 May 2023 20:59 UTC

Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
> <https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/05/05/london-tube-clapham-
> common-windows/>

A British Transport Police spokesman said: “BTP received a report of a
faulty train at Clapham Common station shortly before 6pm this evening, and
we are aware of a video showing passengers trying to leave the train.

“The issue is believed to have been caused by brake dust which can often be
confused with burning. There were no reports of any injuries and the
incident has now been resolved.”

A TfL spokesperson said: “We’re sorry for the distress caused at Clapham
Common. The London Fire Brigade attended the station and confirmed there
was no fire. We are investigating the details of this incident.”

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/clapham-common-northern-line-fire-smoke-windows-smash-b1079231.html

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 by: Clive Page - Fri, 5 May 2023 21:47 UTC

On 05/05/2023 19:58, Roland Perry wrote:
> <https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/05/05/london-tube-clapham-
> common-windows/>

This is rather hard to understand isn't it? Every tube carriage has a door at each end to allow an emergency exit to the next carriage. I was on a tube train once where there was an emergency and we all had to pass through these end doors until we reached the first carriage where everyone could exit to the platform. It really didn't take very long.

And I thought that there were emergency door release handles at each of the regular sliding doors.

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 by: Recliner - Fri, 5 May 2023 21:58 UTC

Clive Page <usenet@page2.eu> wrote:
> On 05/05/2023 19:58, Roland Perry wrote:
>> <https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/05/05/london-tube-clapham-
>> common-windows/>
>
> This is rather hard to understand isn't it? Every tube carriage has a
> door at each end to allow an emergency exit to the next carriage. I was
> on a tube train once where there was an emergency and we all had to pass
> through these end doors until we reached the first carriage where
> everyone could exit to the platform. It really didn't take very long.

Yes, but no external doors were opened initially. The passengers probably
did walk along the train, but couldn't get out through any doors. So they
had to get out to the narrow island platform by climbing out through
smashed windows.

>
> And I thought that there were emergency door release handles at each of
> the regular sliding doors.

Not that I'm aware of. That's why they tried to physically force the
sliding doors open.

The facility by the doors is to alert the driver, not open the doors. And
one problem was that they didn't hear from the driver.

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 by: Recliner - Fri, 5 May 2023 22:14 UTC

Clive Page <usenet@page2.eu> wrote:
> On 05/05/2023 19:58, Roland Perry wrote:
>> <https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/05/05/london-tube-clapham-
>> common-windows/>
>
> This is rather hard to understand isn't it? Every tube carriage has a
> door at each end to allow an emergency exit to the next carriage. I was
> on a tube train once where there was an emergency and we all had to pass
> through these end doors until we reached the first carriage where
> everyone could exit to the platform. It really didn't take very long.
>
> And I thought that there were emergency door release handles at each of
> the regular sliding doors.
>

From:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/6b9dec7a-eb82-11ed-b600-095861aee64c?shareToken=64dabb8f827f4fbb06c9893e5dcd7b27

Kyra Chan, another passenger, tweeted: “Strong smell of smoke and burning
on the Northern Line, passenger alarm gets pulled and train stops at
Clapham Common but doors won’t open despite repeated shouting and banging
to attract attention. Passengers panicking. Finally lights go out and one
door opens.

“Get out and multiple carriages have smashed windows and doors to get
out/air. Not sure what happened but I’m not filled with confidence if there
had been an immediate risk.”

“Finally the driver told us to walk to the rear of the train and we exited
a set of open doors to witness the scene of broken windows on the platform
where other passengers had obviously panicked. There was a strong smell of
burning around the carriages with the broken windows,” he said.

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