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 by: Noodle - Wed, 25 May 2022 23:49 UTC

From June 1st, laws in NSW have changed which will mean you cannot have Sex with anyone in the State, until you get something in writing:

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/ad-campaign-launched-ahead-of-major-nsw-consent-law-change/news-story/711e68747f95aafd35a7e7e3a29a1134

"The affirmative consent laws which passed NSW Parliament last year mean that people cannot “assume” someone else is consenting to sex..

“If you want to engage in sexual activity, from next week, you have to do something or say something to find out that there is consent, or the other party has to do something or say something to show consent,” Attorney-General Mark Speakman said.
"

Since the law is so vague, it will stop people having Sex unless they get something in writing.

Because a woke Magistrate will always convict you of Rape, unless there is something in writing, that says you consent.

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 by: Max - Thu, 26 May 2022 11:50 UTC

On 26/05/2022 9:49 am, Noodle wrote:
> From June 1st, laws in NSW have changed which will mean you cannot have Sex with anyone in the State, until you get something in writing:
>
> https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/ad-campaign-launched-ahead-of-major-nsw-consent-law-change/news-story/711e68747f95aafd35a7e7e3a29a1134
>
> "The affirmative consent laws which passed NSW Parliament last year mean that people cannot “assume” someone else is consenting to sex.
>
> “If you want to engage in sexual activity, from next week, you have to do something or say something to find out that there is consent, or the other party has to do something or say something to show consent,” Attorney-General Mark Speakman said.
> "
>
> Since the law is so vague, it will stop people having Sex unless they get something in writing.
>
> Because a woke Magistrate will always convict you of Rape, unless there is something in writing, that says you consent.

How do you know that writing is required? Isn't verbal communication
enough?

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 by: Rod Speed - Thu, 26 May 2022 19:03 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Noodle wrote

>> From June 1st, laws in NSW have changed which will mean you cannot
>> have Sex with anyone in the State, until you get something in writing:

Bullshit.

>> https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/ad-campaign-launched-ahead-of-major-nsw-consent-law-change/news-story/711e68747f95aafd35a7e7e3a29a1134

Just because some fool journo claims something...

>> "The affirmative consent laws which passed NSW Parliament last year
>> mean that people cannot “assume” someone else is consenting to sex.
>> “If you want to engage in sexual activity, from next week, you have to
>> do something or say something to find out that there is consent, or the
>> other party has to do something or say something to show consent,”
>> Attorney-General Mark Speakman said.
>> "

That's not in writing, fuckwit.

>> Since the law is so vague, it will stop people having Sex unless they
>> get something in writing.

Even sillier than you usually manage and that's saying something...

>> Because a woke Magistrate will always convict you of Rape,unless
>> there is something in writing, that says you consent.

Magistrates don't decide who gets convicted of rape, fuckwit.

> How do you know that writing is required? Isn't verbal communication
> enough?

Corse it is.

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 by: Peter Jason - Fri, 27 May 2022 04:50 UTC

On Wed, 25 May 2022 16:49:36 -0700 (PDT), Noodle <oznoodle@gmail.com>
wrote:

>From June 1st, laws in NSW have changed which will mean you cannot have Sex with anyone in the State, until you get something in writing:
>
>https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/ad-campaign-launched-ahead-of-major-nsw-consent-law-change/news-story/711e68747f95aafd35a7e7e3a29a1134
>
>"The affirmative consent laws which passed NSW Parliament last year mean that people cannot “assume” someone else is consenting to sex.
>
>“If you want to engage in sexual activity, from next week, you have to do something or say something to find out that there is consent, or the other party has to do something or say something to show consent,” Attorney-General Mark Speakman said.
>"
>
>Since the law is so vague, it will stop people having Sex unless they get something in writing.
>
>Because a woke Magistrate will always convict you of Rape, unless there is something in writing, that says you consent.

Clearly a brace of witnesses will be now required during a sex
session, to guarantee consent between the parties.

These cougars can be very cunning!

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 by: Noodle - Mon, 30 May 2022 01:47 UTC

A Female NSW QC Barrister says that the new Sex Consent Laws (which effectively means having WRITTEN SIGNED LETTER from your partner in order to have Sex without being charged) will triple the amount of useless, good-for-nothing, fraudulent cases and bog down the Courts:

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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/truecrimeaustralia/police-courts-nsw/lawyer-representing-jarryd-hayne-concerned-about-consequences-of-affirmative-consent-laws/news-story/094bc9cea9672a6abfd1e200c4267a2f

Sydney lawyer Margaret Cunneen SC says new affirmative consent laws will delay ‘real cases’

Ex-NRL star Jarryd Hayne’s lawyer has panned new consent laws as “unfair for genuine victims” amid concerns an influx of sex cases will further clog the NSW justice system.

Campbell Gellie
and
Julie Cross

NSW launches sex consent campaign ahead of new law

The NSW government has launched an ad campaign to inform people about new consent laws coming into effect.

Lawyers are bracing for an influx of sexual assault cases in an already stretched judicial system when new consent laws come into effect on Wednesday.

The new NSW laws would mean all parties have to say or do something to give consent before any sexual activity.

Barrister Margaret Cunneen SC, who is representing former NRL star Jarryd Hayne in his third trial on sexual assault allegations, said the new laws would see an influx of sex cases.

“There are so many sex cases in the system now it is just ridiculous and no doubt there will be more because of this,” she said.

She said the influx of new cases would result in delays that “hold up the real cases with merit and be very unfair on genuine victims and anyone wrongly accused has to wait longer to have his or her name to be cleared”.

Margaret Cunneen SC is critical of the new laws, anticipating a delay in the outcome of cases as a result.
Margaret Cunneen SC outside Sydney’s Downing Centre courts.

Law Society of NSW president Joanne van der Plaat said it was unclear if there would be an increase in prosecutions as a result of the reforms.

“Sexual assault matters already make up a substantial proportion of cases before the District Court,” she said.

“With each of those cases, the Director of Public Prosecutions must be satisfied that any trial has reasonable prospects of success and its prosecution would be in the public interest.

“The Law Society of NSW will monitor the operation of the reforms with interest and looks forward to providing our views when the statutory review of the legislation commences within three years six months of its commencement.”

But NSW Attorney-General Mark Speakman said the government had spent six months with police and courts preparing for when the laws are brought in.

“These reforms are not just about holding perpetrators to account, but changing social behaviour with clearer rules of engagement, therefore driving down the rate of sexual assaults,” he said.

“The NSW Government is working with agencies to ensure judicial officers, lawyers and police are well-informed about the changes to consent law.

“This includes the Judicial Commission of NSW, which provides a continuing education and training program for NSW judicial officers.”

This comes as counsellors said they were expecting a wave of children to come forward with sexual assault claims once consent education becomes mandatory in schools.

Specialist counselling services warned they did not have the capacity for the expected surge, with wait lists already blowing out to 18 months in some parts of the country.

President of the Law Society of NSW Joanne van der Plaat.

Hayley Foster, chief executive of Full Stop Australia, a charity which advocates for sexual and domestic violence survivors, said services were already chronically underfunded.

“We are a system in crisis,” Ms Foster said.

“The reality is we won’t be able to cope with extra numbers, as we can’t cope now.

“We will be in uncharted territory.”

The Daily Telegraph recently revealed there were long wait list for counsellors and huge black spots across Australia where there were little to no sexual assault services.

Starting next year the new curriculum, which is being rolled out in every state and territory, will look at topics such as age-appropriate consent and respectful relationships.

Rape victims made to wait, as cases soar

It will also cover information around gendered stereotypes, coercion and power imbalances.

If you need support call 1800 RESPECT.

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 by: Phil Allison - Mon, 30 May 2022 03:43 UTC

Noodle the Nut Case wrote:
========================

A Female NSW QC Barrister says that the new Sex Consent Laws
(which effectively means having WRITTEN SIGNED LETTER from your partner in order to have Sex without being charged)

** Bullshit.

will triple the amount of useless, good-for-nothing, fraudulent cases and bog down the Courts:

** No barrister said ANY such thing you lying pig.
===================================

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 by: Rod Speed - Mon, 30 May 2022 05:31 UTC

Noodle <oznoodle@gmail.com> wrote

> A Female NSW QC Barrister says that the new Sex Consent Laws (which
> effectively means having WRITTEN SIGNED LETTER from your partner in
> order to have Sex without being charged) will triple the amount of
> useless, good-for-nothing, fraudulent cases and bog down the Courts:

Just because some fool claims something...

Clearly a short video on your smartphone will do fine.

> ---
>
> http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/truecrimeaustralia/police-courts-nsw/lawyer-representing-jarryd-hayne-concerned-about-consequences-of-affirmative-consent-laws/news-story/094bc9cea9672a6abfd1e200c4267a2f
>
> Sydney lawyer Margaret Cunneen SC says new affirmative consent laws will
> delay ‘real cases’
>
> Ex-NRL star Jarryd Hayne’s lawyer has panned new consent laws as “unfair
> for genuine victims” amid concerns an influx of sex cases will further
> clog the NSW justice system.
>
> Campbell Gellie
> and
> Julie Cross
>
> NSW launches sex consent campaign ahead of new law
>
> The NSW government has launched an ad campaign to inform people about
> new consent laws coming into effect.
>
> Lawyers are bracing for an influx of sexual assault cases in an already
> stretched judicial system when new consent laws come into effect on
> Wednesday.
>
> The new NSW laws would mean all parties have to say or do something to
> give consent before any sexual activity.
>
> Barrister Margaret Cunneen SC, who is representing former NRL star
> Jarryd Hayne in his third trial on sexual assault allegations, said the
> new laws would see an influx of sex cases.
>
> “There are so many sex cases in the system now it is just ridiculous and
> no doubt there will be more because of this,” she said.
>
> She said the influx of new cases would result in delays that “hold up
> the real cases with merit and be very unfair on genuine victims and
> anyone wrongly accused has to wait longer to have his or her name to be
> cleared”.
>
> Margaret Cunneen SC is critical of the new laws, anticipating a delay in
> the outcome of cases as a result.
> Margaret Cunneen SC outside Sydney’s Downing Centre courts.
>
> Law Society of NSW president Joanne van der Plaat said it was unclear if
> there would be an increase in prosecutions as a result of the reforms.
>
> “Sexual assault matters already make up a substantial proportion of
> cases before the District Court,” she said.
>
> “With each of those cases, the Director of Public Prosecutions must be
> satisfied that any trial has reasonable prospects of success and its
> prosecution would be in the public interest.
>
> “The Law Society of NSW will monitor the operation of the reforms with
> interest and looks forward to providing our views when the statutory
> review of the legislation commences within three years six months of its
> commencement.”
>
> But NSW Attorney-General Mark Speakman said the government had spent six
> months with police and courts preparing for when the laws are brought in.
>
> “These reforms are not just about holding perpetrators to account, but
> changing social behaviour with clearer rules of engagement, therefore
> driving down the rate of sexual assaults,” he said.
>
> “The NSW Government is working with agencies to ensure judicial
> officers, lawyers and police are well-informed about the changes to
> consent law.
>
> “This includes the Judicial Commission of NSW, which provides a
> continuing education and training program for NSW judicial officers.”
>
> This comes as counsellors said they were expecting a wave of children to
> come forward with sexual assault claims once consent education becomes
> mandatory in schools.
>
> Specialist counselling services warned they did not have the capacity
> for the expected surge, with wait lists already blowing out to 18 months
> in some parts of the country.
>
> President of the Law Society of NSW Joanne van der Plaat.
>
> Hayley Foster, chief executive of Full Stop Australia, a charity which
> advocates for sexual and domestic violence survivors, said services were
> already chronically underfunded.
>
> “We are a system in crisis,” Ms Foster said.
>
> “The reality is we won’t be able to cope with extra numbers, as we can’t
> cope now.
>
> “We will be in uncharted territory.”
>
> The Daily Telegraph recently revealed there were long wait list for
> counsellors and huge black spots across Australia where there were
> little to no sexual assault services.
>
> Starting next year the new curriculum, which is being rolled out in
> every state and territory, will look at topics such as age-appropriate
> consent and respectful relationships.
>
> Rape victims made to wait, as cases soar
>
> It will also cover information around gendered stereotypes, coercion and
> power imbalances.
>
> If you need support call 1800 RESPECT.
>

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 by: Max - Mon, 30 May 2022 06:58 UTC

On 30/05/2022 1:43 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
> Noodle the Nut Case wrote:
> ========================
>
> A Female NSW QC Barrister says that the new Sex Consent Laws
> (which effectively means having WRITTEN SIGNED LETTER from your partner in order to have Sex without being charged)
>
> ** Bullshit.
>
> will triple the amount of useless, good-for-nothing, fraudulent cases and bog down the Courts:
>
> ** No barrister said ANY such thing you lying pig.
> ===================================
>

Why do you have to be so abusive? Why can't you ask him politely for
the source of his statement?

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Subject: Re: NSW stops people having sex
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 by: Max - Mon, 30 May 2022 07:45 UTC

On 30/05/2022 3:31 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Noodle <oznoodle@gmail.com> wrote
>
>> A Female NSW QC Barrister says that the new Sex Consent Laws (which
>> effectively means having WRITTEN SIGNED LETTER from your partner in
>> order to have Sex without being charged) will triple the amount of
>> useless, good-for-nothing, fraudulent cases and bog down the Courts:
>
> Just because some fool claims something...
>
> Clearly a short video on your smartphone will do fine.
>

Does this need to happen for married or defacto couples every time?

>> ---
>>
>> http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/truecrimeaustralia/police-courts-nsw/lawyer-representing-jarryd-hayne-concerned-about-consequences-of-affirmative-consent-laws/news-story/094bc9cea9672a6abfd1e200c4267a2f
>>
>>
>> Sydney lawyer Margaret Cunneen SC says new affirmative consent laws
>> will delay ‘real cases’
>>
>> Ex-NRL star Jarryd Hayne’s lawyer has panned new consent laws as
>> “unfair for genuine victims” amid concerns an influx of sex cases will
>> further clog the NSW justice system.
>>
>> Campbell Gellie
>>  and
>> Julie Cross
>>
>> NSW launches sex consent campaign ahead of new law
>>
>> The NSW government has launched an ad campaign to inform people about
>> new consent laws coming into effect.
>>
>> Lawyers are bracing for an influx of sexual assault cases in an
>> already stretched judicial system when new consent laws come into
>> effect on Wednesday.
>>
>> The new NSW laws would mean all parties have to say or do something to
>> give consent before any sexual activity.
>>
>> Barrister Margaret Cunneen SC, who is representing former NRL star
>> Jarryd Hayne in his third trial on sexual assault allegations, said
>> the new laws would see an influx of sex cases.
>>
>> “There are so many sex cases in the system now it is just ridiculous
>> and no doubt there will be more because of this,” she said.
>>
>> She said the influx of new cases would result in delays that “hold up
>> the real cases with merit and be very unfair on genuine victims and
>> anyone wrongly accused has to wait longer to have his or her name to
>> be cleared”.
>>
>> Margaret Cunneen SC is critical of the new laws, anticipating a delay
>> in the outcome of cases as a result.
>> Margaret Cunneen SC outside Sydney’s Downing Centre courts.
>>
>> Law Society of NSW president Joanne van der Plaat said it was unclear
>> if there would be an increase in prosecutions as a result of the reforms.
>>
>> “Sexual assault matters already make up a substantial proportion of
>> cases before the District Court,” she said.
>>
>> “With each of those cases, the Director of Public Prosecutions must be
>> satisfied that any trial has reasonable prospects of success and its
>> prosecution would be in the public interest.
>>
>> “The Law Society of NSW will monitor the operation of the reforms with
>> interest and looks forward to providing our views when the statutory
>> review of the legislation commences within three years six months of
>> its commencement.”
>>
>> But NSW Attorney-General Mark Speakman said the government had spent
>> six months with police and courts preparing for when the laws are
>> brought in.
>>
>> “These reforms are not just about holding perpetrators to account, but
>> changing social behaviour with clearer rules of engagement, therefore
>> driving down the rate of sexual assaults,” he said.
>>
>> “The NSW Government is working with agencies to ensure judicial
>> officers, lawyers and police are well-informed about the changes to
>> consent law.
>>
>> “This includes the Judicial Commission of NSW, which provides a
>> continuing education and training program for NSW judicial officers.”
>>
>> This comes as counsellors said they were expecting a wave of children
>> to come forward with sexual assault claims once consent education
>> becomes mandatory in schools.
>>
>> Specialist counselling services warned they did not have the capacity
>> for the expected surge, with wait lists already blowing out to 18
>> months in some parts of the country.
>>
>> President of the Law Society of NSW Joanne van der Plaat.
>>
>> Hayley Foster, chief executive of Full Stop Australia, a charity which
>> advocates for sexual and domestic violence survivors, said services
>> were already chronically underfunded.
>>
>> “We are a system in crisis,” Ms Foster said.
>>
>> “The reality is we won’t be able to cope with extra numbers, as we
>> can’t cope now.
>>
>> “We will be in uncharted territory.”
>>
>> The Daily Telegraph recently revealed there were long wait list for
>> counsellors and huge black spots across Australia where there were
>> little to no sexual assault services.
>>
>> Starting next year the new curriculum, which is being rolled out in
>> every state and territory, will look at topics such as age-appropriate
>> consent and respectful relationships.
>>
>> Rape victims made to wait, as cases soar
>>
>> It will also cover information around gendered stereotypes, coercion
>> and power imbalances.
>>
>> If you need support call 1800 RESPECT.
>>

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 by: Rod Speed - Mon, 30 May 2022 09:39 UTC

On Mon, 30 May 2022 17:45:26 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:

> On 30/05/2022 3:31 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>> Noodle <oznoodle@gmail.com> wrote
>>
>>> A Female NSW QC Barrister says that the new Sex Consent Laws (which
>>> effectively means having WRITTEN SIGNED LETTER from your partner in
>>> order to have Sex without being charged) will triple the amount of
>>> useless, good-for-nothing, fraudulent cases and bog down the Courts:
>> Just because some fool claims something...
>> Clearly a short video on your smartphone will do fine.
>>
>
> Does this need to happen for married or defacto couples every time?

Corse it does. And keep recording in case she changes her mind.

>
>
>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/truecrimeaustralia/police-courts-nsw/lawyer-representing-jarryd-hayne-concerned-about-consequences-of-affirmative-consent-laws/news-story/094bc9cea9672a6abfd1e200c4267a2f
>>> Sydney lawyer Margaret Cunneen SC says new affirmative consent laws
>>> will delay ‘real cases’
>>>
>>> Ex-NRL star Jarryd Hayne’s lawyer has panned new consent laws as
>>> “unfair for genuine victims” amid concerns an influx of sex cases will
>>> further clog the NSW justice system.
>>>
>>> Campbell Gellie
>>> and
>>> Julie Cross
>>>
>>> NSW launches sex consent campaign ahead of new law
>>>
>>> The NSW government has launched an ad campaign to inform people about
>>> new consent laws coming into effect.
>>>
>>> Lawyers are bracing for an influx of sexual assault cases in an
>>> already stretched judicial system when new consent laws come into
>>> effect on Wednesday.
>>>
>>> The new NSW laws would mean all parties have to say or do something to
>>> give consent before any sexual activity.
>>>
>>> Barrister Margaret Cunneen SC, who is representing former NRL star
>>> Jarryd Hayne in his third trial on sexual assault allegations, said
>>> the new laws would see an influx of sex cases.
>>>
>>> “There are so many sex cases in the system now it is just ridiculous
>>> and no doubt there will be more because of this,” she said.
>>>
>>> She said the influx of new cases would result in delays that “hold up
>>> the real cases with merit and be very unfair on genuine victims and
>>> anyone wrongly accused has to wait longer to have his or her name to
>>> be cleared”.
>>>
>>> Margaret Cunneen SC is critical of the new laws, anticipating a delay
>>> in the outcome of cases as a result.
>>> Margaret Cunneen SC outside Sydney’s Downing Centre courts.
>>>
>>> Law Society of NSW president Joanne van der Plaat said it was unclear
>>> if there would be an increase in prosecutions as a result of the
>>> reforms.
>>>
>>> “Sexual assault matters already make up a substantial proportion of
>>> cases before the District Court,” she said.
>>>
>>> “With each of those cases, the Director of Public Prosecutions must be
>>> satisfied that any trial has reasonable prospects of success and its
>>> prosecution would be in the public interest.
>>>
>>> “The Law Society of NSW will monitor the operation of the reforms with
>>> interest and looks forward to providing our views when the statutory
>>> review of the legislation commences within three years six months of
>>> its commencement.”
>>>
>>> But NSW Attorney-General Mark Speakman said the government had spent
>>> six months with police and courts preparing for when the laws are
>>> brought in.
>>>
>>> “These reforms are not just about holding perpetrators to account, but
>>> changing social behaviour with clearer rules of engagement, therefore
>>> driving down the rate of sexual assaults,” he said.
>>>
>>> “The NSW Government is working with agencies to ensure judicial
>>> officers, lawyers and police are well-informed about the changes to
>>> consent law.
>>>
>>> “This includes the Judicial Commission of NSW, which provides a
>>> continuing education and training program for NSW judicial officers.”
>>>
>>> This comes as counsellors said they were expecting a wave of children
>>> to come forward with sexual assault claims once consent education
>>> becomes mandatory in schools.
>>>
>>> Specialist counselling services warned they did not have the capacity
>>> for the expected surge, with wait lists already blowing out to 18
>>> months in some parts of the country.
>>>
>>> President of the Law Society of NSW Joanne van der Plaat.
>>>
>>> Hayley Foster, chief executive of Full Stop Australia, a charity which
>>> advocates for sexual and domestic violence survivors, said services
>>> were already chronically underfunded.
>>>
>>> “We are a system in crisis,” Ms Foster said.
>>>
>>> “The reality is we won’t be able to cope with extra numbers, as we
>>> can’t cope now.
>>>
>>> “We will be in uncharted territory.”
>>>
>>> The Daily Telegraph recently revealed there were long wait list for
>>> counsellors and huge black spots across Australia where there were
>>> little to no sexual assault services.
>>>
>>> Starting next year the new curriculum, which is being rolled out in
>>> every state and territory, will look at topics such as age-appropriate
>>> consent and respectful relationships.
>>>
>>> Rape victims made to wait, as cases soar
>>>
>>> It will also cover information around gendered stereotypes, coercion
>>> and power imbalances.
>>>
>>> If you need support call 1800 RESPECT.
>>>

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