On Sat, 27 May 2023 21:02:54 +0100, Coffee <martin.coffee@round-midnight.org.uk> wrote:

>On 27/05/2023 15:16, Recliner wrote:

>>
>> Today I had the pleasure of rides on a steam train, a proper funicular and
>> a rack railway, all in zone 1 of the city. Presumably to make a British
>> party feel at home, we also enjoyed the pleasure of a bustitution of some
>> U-Bahn lines (for two weeks, not just this weekend). So add a bendy bus to
>> the list.
>
>Which city is this?

In case you didn't guess:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/recliner/albums/72177720309388230

On 28/06/2023 13:53, Recliner wrote:
> On Sat, 27 May 2023 21:02:54 +0100, Coffee <martin.coffee@round-midnight.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 27/05/2023 15:16, Recliner wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Today I had the pleasure of rides on a steam train, a proper funicular and
>>> a rack railway, all in zone 1 of the city. Presumably to make a British
>>> party feel at home, we also enjoyed the pleasure of a bustitution of some
>>> U-Bahn lines (for two weeks, not just this weekend). So add a bendy bus to
>>> the list.
>>
>> Which city is this?
>
> In case you didn't guess:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/recliner/albums/72177720309388230

Thanks. I'll put that on my list of places to visit.

On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 11:32:15 +0100, Coffee <martin.coffee@round-midnight.org.uk> wrote:

>On 28/06/2023 13:53, Recliner wrote:
>> On Sat, 27 May 2023 21:02:54 +0100, Coffee <martin.coffee@round-midnight.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 27/05/2023 15:16, Recliner wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> Today I had the pleasure of rides on a steam train, a proper funicular and
>>>> a rack railway, all in zone 1 of the city. Presumably to make a British
>>>> party feel at home, we also enjoyed the pleasure of a bustitution of some
>>>> U-Bahn lines (for two weeks, not just this weekend). So add a bendy bus to
>>>> the list.
>>>
>>> Which city is this?
>>
>> In case you didn't guess:
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/recliner/albums/72177720309388230
>
>Thanks. I'll put that on my list of places to visit.

The nice thing is that the rack and funicular railways are included in the inexpensive zone 1 public transport rover,
along with trams and buses. They both connect to U-Bahn lines. The vintage tram isn't included, nor the rather nice park
railway (which mainly runs diesels).

On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 12:07:52 +0100, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 11:32:15 +0100, Coffee <martin.coffee@round-midnight.org.uk> wrote:
>
>>On 28/06/2023 13:53, Recliner wrote:
>>> On Sat, 27 May 2023 21:02:54 +0100, Coffee <martin.coffee@round-midnight.org.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 27/05/2023 15:16, Recliner wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Today I had the pleasure of rides on a steam train, a proper funicular and
>>>>> a rack railway, all in zone 1 of the city. Presumably to make a British
>>>>> party feel at home, we also enjoyed the pleasure of a bustitution of some
>>>>> U-Bahn lines (for two weeks, not just this weekend). So add a bendy bus to
>>>>> the list.
>>>>
>>>> Which city is this?
>>>
>>> In case you didn't guess:
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/recliner/albums/72177720309388230
>>
>>Thanks. I'll put that on my list of places to visit.
>
>The nice thing is that the rack and funicular railways are included in the inexpensive zone 1 public transport rover,
>along with trams and buses. They both connect to U-Bahn lines. The vintage tram isn't included, nor the rather nice park
>railway (which mainly runs diesels).

PS: A warning about the very late-running, over-budget Stuttgart 21 project. The main railway station is still a
building site, and just getting between the mainline platforms and the U-Bahn is a bit of a complicated route march.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuttgart_21

Am 29.06.2023 um 15:43 schrieb Recliner:
> On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 12:07:52 +0100, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 11:32:15 +0100, Coffee <martin.coffee@round-midnight.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 28/06/2023 13:53, Recliner wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 27 May 2023 21:02:54 +0100, Coffee <martin.coffee@round-midnight.org.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 27/05/2023 15:16, Recliner wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Today I had the pleasure of rides on a steam train, a proper funicular and
>>>>>> a rack railway, all in zone 1 of the city. Presumably to make a British
>>>>>> party feel at home, we also enjoyed the pleasure of a bustitution of some
>>>>>> U-Bahn lines (for two weeks, not just this weekend). So add a bendy bus to
>>>>>> the list.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which city is this?
>>>>
>>>> In case you didn't guess:
>>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/recliner/albums/72177720309388230
>>>
>>> Thanks. I'll put that on my list of places to visit.
>>
>> The nice thing is that the rack and funicular railways are included in the inexpensive zone 1 public transport rover,
>> along with trams and buses. They both connect to U-Bahn lines. The vintage tram isn't included, nor the rather nice park
>> railway (which mainly runs diesels).
>
> PS: A warning about the very late-running, over-budget Stuttgart 21 project. The main railway station is still a
> building site, and just getting between the mainline platforms and the U-Bahn is a bit of a complicated route march.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuttgart_21

Right, if somebody is planning to put a major train terminus
underground, they should at least not penny-pinch when building.

The future will tell whether an 8-track tunnel station is a capacity
equivalent of a 16-track terminus or not.

The future will tell on the effect a 15/1000 gradient has on the running
of a major station (trains may not commence or terminate because it's
impossible to do a brake test).

Hopefully, we'll never find out whether the 'reduced size' of fire
escape routes in the tunnels live up to a major problem or not.

Luckily, Frankfurt will go the Zurich way by adding a few underground
mainline platforms to the terminus rather than relocating everything
under ground, turning the whole city into a building site for 15 years.

Rolf