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* They have a cunning planArthur Figgis
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Re: They have a cunning plan

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 by: Arthur Figgis - Sat, 22 May 2021 19:04 UTC

On 21/05/2021 13:08, Scott wrote:
> On Thu, 20 May 2021 18:48:49 +0100, Arthur Figgis
> <afiggis@example.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 20/05/2021 17:59, martin.coffee@round-midnight.org.uk wrote:
>>> On 20/05/2021 17:31, Graeme Wall wrote:
>>>> On 20/05/2021 10:42, Scott wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 20 May 2021 06:35:34 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57176858
>>>>>>
>>>>> [snip]
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Don't like the name - too verbose.  We changed from British
>>>>> Railways to British Rail in the 1960s.  Calling it BR would be too
>>>>> much of a climbdown I suppose.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The name is all part of the nationalistic nonsense from this government.
>>>>
>>> Agreed.  They should be called Great England Railway.
>>
>>
>> Which I'm sure would go down well for the bits outside England.
>
> It would go down very well actually as ScotRail and Transport for
> Wales are both devolved to their respective governments - an
> arrangement that is to continue. .

Do you really think that people in Scotland and Wales would be happy
with the infrastructure manager being called something with "England" in
the name?

--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

Re: They have a cunning plan

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Subject: Re: They have a cunning plan
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 by: Scott - Sun, 23 May 2021 09:31 UTC

On Sat, 22 May 2021 20:04:33 +0100, Arthur Figgis
<afiggis@example.com.invalid> wrote:

>On 21/05/2021 13:08, Scott wrote:
>> On Thu, 20 May 2021 18:48:49 +0100, Arthur Figgis
>> <afiggis@example.com.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 20/05/2021 17:59, martin.coffee@round-midnight.org.uk wrote:
>>>> On 20/05/2021 17:31, Graeme Wall wrote:
>>>>> On 20/05/2021 10:42, Scott wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 20 May 2021 06:35:34 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57176858
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> [snip]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Don't like the name - too verbose.  We changed from British
>>>>>> Railways to British Rail in the 1960s.  Calling it BR would be too
>>>>>> much of a climbdown I suppose.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The name is all part of the nationalistic nonsense from this government.
>>>>>
>>>> Agreed.  They should be called Great England Railway.
>>>
>>>
>>> Which I'm sure would go down well for the bits outside England.
>>
>> It would go down very well actually as ScotRail and Transport for
>> Wales are both devolved to their respective governments - an
>> arrangement that is to continue. .
>
>Do you really think that people in Scotland and Wales would be happy
>with the infrastructure manager being called something with "England" in
>the name?

To coin a phrase, I think to most people Network Rail is a far away
organisation of which we know nothing. To people in Scotland,
ScotRail is synonymous with the railway.

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 by: Arthur Figgis - Sun, 23 May 2021 12:16 UTC

On 23/05/2021 10:31, Scott wrote:
> On Sat, 22 May 2021 20:04:33 +0100, Arthur Figgis
> <afiggis@example.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 21/05/2021 13:08, Scott wrote:
>>> On Thu, 20 May 2021 18:48:49 +0100, Arthur Figgis
>>> <afiggis@example.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 20/05/2021 17:59, martin.coffee@round-midnight.org.uk wrote:
>>>>> On 20/05/2021 17:31, Graeme Wall wrote:
>>>>>> On 20/05/2021 10:42, Scott wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 20 May 2021 06:35:34 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.co.uk>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57176858
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [snip]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. Don't like the name - too verbose.  We changed from British
>>>>>>> Railways to British Rail in the 1960s.  Calling it BR would be too
>>>>>>> much of a climbdown I suppose.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The name is all part of the nationalistic nonsense from this government.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Agreed.  They should be called Great England Railway.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Which I'm sure would go down well for the bits outside England.
>>>
>>> It would go down very well actually as ScotRail and Transport for
>>> Wales are both devolved to their respective governments - an
>>> arrangement that is to continue. .
>>
>> Do you really think that people in Scotland and Wales would be happy
>> with the infrastructure manager being called something with "England" in
>> the name?
>
> To coin a phrase, I think to most people Network Rail is a far away
> organisation of which we know nothing. To people in Scotland,
> ScotRail is synonymous with the railway.

Scotland (and England for that matter...) doesn't appear to be short of
True Scotsmen seeking out opportunities to be triggered by anything
which could in some obscure way be deemed a failure to recognise their
celtic exceptionalism.

--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

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