Covid; Brexit. It's been a long time since I've been to the UK.

Things have changed in the meantime.

Is there a customs check at St Pancras Station?

Arriving from the continent at St Pancras at 8.57: can I get a train at
Euston station at 9.30?

--
Michel Van den Berghe
http://www.rail-be.net/Wordpress/
Although strange the email adress works

In message <mn.596a7e78b08f044b.127164@myonline.be>, at 06:02:01 on Fri,
11 Aug 2023, Michel Van den Berghe <nospam02@myonline.be> remarked:
>Covid; Brexit. It's been a long time since I've been to the UK.
>
>Things have changed in the meantime.
>
>Is there a customs check at St Pancras Station?

I don't think there ever has been. Very occasionally they might be on
the lockout for a suspect.

>Arriving from the continent at St Pancras at 8.57: can I get a train at
>Euston station at 9.30?

Google says it's a 12 minute walk door to door. Best to be as near to
exits at the front of the train as possible on arrival (perhaps someone
can confirm a relevant carriage number).

Should be just about do-able, as long as the inbound train isn't late.
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
> In message <mn.596a7e78b08f044b.127164@myonline.be>, at 06:02:01 on Fri,
> 11 Aug 2023, Michel Van den Berghe <nospam02@myonline.be> remarked:
>> Covid; Brexit. It's been a long time since I've been to the UK.
>>
>> Things have changed in the meantime.
>>
>> Is there a customs check at St Pancras Station?
>
> I don't think there ever has been. Very occasionally they might be on
> the lockout for a suspect.
>
>> Arriving from the continent at St Pancras at 8.57: can I get a train at
>> Euston station at 9.30?
>
> Google says it's a 12 minute walk door to door. Best to be as near to
> exits at the front of the train as possible on arrival (perhaps someone
> can confirm a relevant carriage number).
>
> Should be just about do-able, as long as the inbound train isn't late.

The OP probably qualifies for an Interrail ticket for use in GB. That gives
you flexibility to use almost any train, so it wouldn’t matter so much if
you missed your connection.

That's right. I travel with an Interrail pass, which gives me complete
flexibility.

So I can catch the next train. However, at my destination, Carlisle, I
have a bus connection to Newcastleton and the next bus is several hours
later.

If I can leave London at 9,30, I am in Newcastleton at 14,43. If I miss
the 9,30 train in London, I am at 18,02 in Newcastleton.

--
Michel Van den Berghe
http://www.rail-be.net/Wordpress/
Although strange the email adress works

On 11.08.23 06:02, Michel Van den Berghe wrote:
> Covid; Brexit. It's been a long time since I've been to the UK.
>
> Things have changed in the meantime.
>
> Is there a customs check at St Pancras Station?

There is a customs post with a red lane/green lane arrangement. If you
have nothing to declare and don't pique the interest of the customs
agents, you can just walk straight through. Immigration (passports etc)
are done before departure.

> Arriving from the continent at St Pancras at 8.57: can I get a train at
> Euston station at 9.30?

It's definitely possible, though it can sometimes be a bit slow getting
off the platform simply due to the volume of passengers on a Eurostar
and the limited ramps off the platform. As a rule of thumb, I'd allow 10
more minutes than making the equivalent connection off a domestic train,
so if you think you could arrive on an MML domestic train at 09.10 and
make it to a Euston departure at 09.30 (given your level of mobility,
quantity of luggage, familiarity with the route etc), then you should be
able to make this connection.

Robin

>
> It's definitely possible, though it can sometimes be a bit slow getting
> off the platform simply due to the volume of passengers on a Eurostar
> and the limited ramps off the platform.

In St-Pancras, there are also one or two escalators at the very end of
the platform. Very few people knows about and therefore few use it.

--
Michel Van den Berghe
http://www.rail-be.net/Wordpress/
Although strange the email adress works

Michel Van den Berghe <nospam02@myonline.be> wrote:
> That's right. I travel with an Interrail pass, which gives me complete
> flexibility.
>
> So I can catch the next train. However, at my destination, Carlisle, I
> have a bus connection to Newcastleton and the next bus is several hours
> later.
>
> If I can leave London at 9,30, I am in Newcastleton at 14,43. If I miss
> the 9,30 train in London, I am at 18,02 in Newcastleton.
>

Even without customs it can take a while to exit StP from a Eurostar,
especially if you are at the rear of the train. The entire trainload of
passengers is funnelled through one single exit.

On 11/08/2023 08:09, Michel Van den Berghe wrote:
> That's right. I travel with an Interrail pass, which gives me complete
> flexibility.
>
> So I can catch the next train. However, at my destination, Carlisle, I
> have a bus connection to Newcastleton and the next bus is several hours
> later.
>
> If I can leave London at 9,30, I am in Newcastleton at 14,43. If I miss
> the 9,30 train in London, I am at 18,02 in Newcastleton.
>
Newcastleton is a lovely village. Enjoy your stay.

It's such a pity Beeching closed the Waverley route in 1969, or you
could have gone by train the whole way.

> On 11/08/2023 08:09, Michel Van den Berghe wrote:
>> That's right. I travel with an Interrail pass, which gives me complete
>> flexibility.
>>
>> So I can catch the next train. However, at my destination, Carlisle, I
>> have a bus connection to Newcastleton and the next bus is several hours
>> later.
>>
>> If I can leave London at 9,30, I am in Newcastleton at 14,43. If I miss
>> the 9,30 train in London, I am at 18,02 in Newcastleton.
>>
> Newcastleton is a lovely village. Enjoy your stay.
>
> It's such a pity Beeching closed the Waverley route in 1969, or you
> could have gone by train the whole way.

There is still a station house

https://tinyurl.com/3epbx25c

Wasn't the Edimburg end not reopened some years ago?

--
Michel Van den Berghe
http://www.rail-be.net/Wordpress/
Although strange the email adress works

Michel Van den Berghe <nospam02@myonline.be> wrote:
>> On 11/08/2023 08:09, Michel Van den Berghe wrote:
>>> That's right. I travel with an Interrail pass, which gives me complete
>>> flexibility.
>>>
>>> So I can catch the next train. However, at my destination, Carlisle, I
>>> have a bus connection to Newcastleton and the next bus is several hours
>>> later.
>>>
>>> If I can leave London at 9,30, I am in Newcastleton at 14,43. If I miss
>>> the 9,30 train in London, I am at 18,02 in Newcastleton.
>>>
>> Newcastleton is a lovely village. Enjoy your stay.
>>
>> It's such a pity Beeching closed the Waverley route in 1969, or you
>> could have gone by train the whole way.
>
> There is still a station house
>
> https://tinyurl.com/3epbx25c
>
> Wasn't the Edimburg end not reopened some years ago?
>

Yes, Edinburgh to Tweedbank.

Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
> Michel Van den Berghe <nospam02@myonline.be> wrote:
>>> On 11/08/2023 08:09, Michel Van den Berghe wrote:
>>>> That's right. I travel with an Interrail pass, which gives me complete
>>>> flexibility.
>>>>
>>>> So I can catch the next train. However, at my destination, Carlisle, I
>>>> have a bus connection to Newcastleton and the next bus is several hours
>>>> later.
>>>>
>>>> If I can leave London at 9,30, I am in Newcastleton at 14,43. If I miss
>>>> the 9,30 train in London, I am at 18,02 in Newcastleton.
>>>>
>>> Newcastleton is a lovely village. Enjoy your stay.
>>>
>>> It's such a pity Beeching closed the Waverley route in 1969, or you
>>> could have gone by train the whole way.
>>
>> There is still a station house
>>
>> https://tinyurl.com/3epbx25c
>>
>> Wasn't the Edimburg end not reopened some years ago?
>>
>
> Yes, Edinburgh to Tweedbank.

And there’s a campaign to reopen the rest of the route.

<https://campaignforbordersrail.org/campaigns/onwards/>

Sam

--
The entity formerly known as Sam.Wilson@ed.ac.uk
Spit the dummy to reply

On 11/08/2023 08:09, Bob wrote:
> On 11.08.23 06:02, Michel Van den Berghe wrote:
>> Covid; Brexit. It's been a long time since I've been to the UK.
>>
>> Things have changed in the meantime.
>>
>> Is there a customs check at St Pancras Station?
>
> There is a customs post with a red lane/green lane arrangement. If you
> have nothing to declare and don't pique the interest of the customs
> agents, you can just walk straight through. Immigration (passports etc)
> are done before departure.
>
>> Arriving from the continent at St Pancras at 8.57: can I get a train at
>> Euston station at 9.30?
>
> It's definitely possible, though it can sometimes be a bit slow getting
> off the platform simply due to the volume of passengers on a Eurostar
> and the limited ramps off the platform. As a rule of thumb, I'd allow 10
> more minutes than making the equivalent connection off a domestic train,
> so if you think you could arrive on an MML domestic train at 09.10 and
> make it to a Euston departure at 09.30 (given your level of mobility,
> quantity of luggage, familiarity with the route etc), then you should be
> able to make this connection.
>

The one thing I would do to save a couple of minutes is to use Realtime
Trains to determine the departure platform at London Euston railway station.

Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
> Michel Van den Berghe <nospam02@myonline.be> wrote:
>> That's right. I travel with an Interrail pass, which gives me complete
>> flexibility.
>>
>> So I can catch the next train. However, at my destination, Carlisle, I
>> have a bus connection to Newcastleton and the next bus is several hours
>> later.
>>
>> If I can leave London at 9,30, I am in Newcastleton at 14,43. If I miss
>> the 9,30 train in London, I am at 18,02 in Newcastleton.
>>
>
> Even without customs it can take a while to exit StP from a Eurostar,
> especially if you are at the rear of the train. The entire trainload of
> passengers is funnelled through one single exit.

Yes, it can be very slow to get to the exit from the back of the train, so
it's much better to be in a high numbered carriage, near the front of the
train. In 374s, the front and rear three coaches are premier and the rest
standard. So the forward-most premier class coach is no 16, and standard
class coach is no 13.

Michel Van den Berghe <nospam02@myonline.be> wrote:
> Covid; Brexit. It's been a long time since I've been to the UK.
>
> Things have changed in the meantime.
>
> Is there a customs check at St Pancras Station?
>
> Arriving from the continent at St Pancras at 8.57: can I get a train at
> Euston station at 9.30?
>

For a speedy exit from the platform at St Pancras:

If you have a choice of carriage number, choose a low one - Eurostar are
always numbered with the lowest number carriages at the London end.

When exiting the platform, there’s a ramp with a travellator - walk beyond
this, right to the front of the train, and there a stairs which take you to
the same place, and can be quicker.

Anna Noyd-Dryver

In message <ub4nnu$ovtl$1@dont-email.me>, at 07:24:46 on Fri, 11 Aug
2023, Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> remarked:
>Michel Van den Berghe <nospam02@myonline.be> wrote:
>> That's right. I travel with an Interrail pass, which gives me complete
>> flexibility.
>>
>> So I can catch the next train. However, at my destination, Carlisle, I
>> have a bus connection to Newcastleton and the next bus is several hours
>> later.
>>
>> If I can leave London at 9,30, I am in Newcastleton at 14,43. If I miss
>> the 9,30 train in London, I am at 18,02 in Newcastleton.
>
>Even without customs it can take a while to exit StP from a Eurostar,
>especially if you are at the rear of the train.

Which is why, dear Liza, I said the OP should ensure he's near the
front.

>The entire trainload of passengers is funnelled through one single
>exit.

--
Roland Perry

My wife and I have walked from St Pancras to Euston a couple of times -
with luggage - there is a marked route via 'back streets'. (Midland Rd
exit, I think its then Brill Pl/ Phoenix Rd). It's a lot nicer walking
that way than down the traffic sewer that is Euston Road.

Although we have always left a hour or so between the scheduled arrival
of the Eurostar and the departure from Euston. We usually arrange this
to be lunch time so spend most of the waiting time having a sit down
lunch in Euston Nandos.

On Fri, 11 Aug 2023 10:09:11 -0000 (UTC), Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:

>Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Michel Van den Berghe <nospam02@myonline.be> wrote:
>>> That's right. I travel with an Interrail pass, which gives me complete
>>> flexibility.
>>>
>>> So I can catch the next train. However, at my destination, Carlisle, I
>>> have a bus connection to Newcastleton and the next bus is several hours
>>> later.
>>>
>>> If I can leave London at 9,30, I am in Newcastleton at 14,43. If I miss
>>> the 9,30 train in London, I am at 18,02 in Newcastleton.
>>>
>>
>> Even without customs it can take a while to exit StP from a Eurostar,
>> especially if you are at the rear of the train. The entire trainload of
>> passengers is funnelled through one single exit.
>
>Yes, it can be very slow to get to the exit from the back of the train, so
>it's much better to be in a high numbered carriage, near the front of the
>train. In 374s, the front and rear three coaches are premier and the rest
>standard. So the forward-most premier class coach is no 16, and standard
>class coach is no 13.

Oops, I got that the wrong way round. Low carriage numbers are the London end.

Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Aug 2023 10:09:11 -0000 (UTC), Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Michel Van den Berghe <nospam02@myonline.be> wrote:
>>>> That's right. I travel with an Interrail pass, which gives me complete
>>>> flexibility.
>>>>
>>>> So I can catch the next train. However, at my destination, Carlisle, I
>>>> have a bus connection to Newcastleton and the next bus is several hours
>>>> later.
>>>>
>>>> If I can leave London at 9,30, I am in Newcastleton at 14,43. If I miss
>>>> the 9,30 train in London, I am at 18,02 in Newcastleton.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Even without customs it can take a while to exit StP from a Eurostar,
>>> especially if you are at the rear of the train. The entire trainload of
>>> passengers is funnelled through one single exit.
>>
>> Yes, it can be very slow to get to the exit from the back of the train, so
>> it's much better to be in a high numbered carriage, near the front of the
>> train. In 374s, the front and rear three coaches are premier and the rest
>> standard. So the forward-most premier class coach is no 16, and standard
>> class coach is no 13.
>
> Oops, I got that the wrong way round. Low carriage numbers are the London end.
>

Until I double-checked, I thought they had low numbers leading which ever
direction (hence the carriage number being on a screen rather than a
sticker) [1], but it seems that actually the low numbers are always at the
London end.

[1] and the ability to have permanent signs pointing passengers to the
correct ramp for their end of the train, from the departure lounges. But I
guess there's minimal risk of a Eurostar set being turned, and ending up
wrong way around.

Anna Noyd-Dryver

On 12/08/2023 14:41, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
> Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Aug 2023 10:09:11 -0000 (UTC), Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Michel Van den Berghe <nospam02@myonline.be> wrote:
>>>>> That's right. I travel with an Interrail pass, which gives me complete
>>>>> flexibility.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I can catch the next train. However, at my destination, Carlisle, I
>>>>> have a bus connection to Newcastleton and the next bus is several hours
>>>>> later.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I can leave London at 9,30, I am in Newcastleton at 14,43. If I miss
>>>>> the 9,30 train in London, I am at 18,02 in Newcastleton.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Even without customs it can take a while to exit StP from a Eurostar,
>>>> especially if you are at the rear of the train. The entire trainload of
>>>> passengers is funnelled through one single exit.
>>>
>>> Yes, it can be very slow to get to the exit from the back of the train, so
>>> it's much better to be in a high numbered carriage, near the front of the
>>> train. In 374s, the front and rear three coaches are premier and the rest
>>> standard. So the forward-most premier class coach is no 16, and standard
>>> class coach is no 13.
>>
>> Oops, I got that the wrong way round. Low carriage numbers are the London end.
>>
>
> Until I double-checked, I thought they had low numbers leading which ever
> direction (hence the carriage number being on a screen rather than a
> sticker) [1], but it seems that actually the low numbers are always at the
> London end.
>
> [1] and the ability to have permanent signs pointing passengers to the
> correct ramp for their end of the train, from the departure lounges. But I
> guess there's minimal risk of a Eurostar set being turned, and ending up
> wrong way around.
>
>

Could accidentality get routed at Lille towards GdN from Brussels I
suppose, and vice-versa.

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read.

On 12/08/2023 14:41, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
> Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Aug 2023 10:09:11 -0000 (UTC), Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Oops, I got that the wrong way round. Low carriage numbers are the London end.
>>
>
> Until I double-checked, I thought they had low numbers leading which ever
> direction (hence the carriage number being on a screen rather than a
> sticker) [1], but it seems that actually the low numbers are always at the
> London end.
>
> [1] and the ability to have permanent signs pointing passengers to the
> correct ramp for their end of the train, from the departure lounges. But I
> guess there's minimal risk of a Eurostar set being turned, and ending up
> wrong way around.

.... and see to/from London marked on the train plans here:
https://eurostar4agents.com/all-about-eurostar/seating-plan-1

Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> On 12/08/2023 14:41, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
>> Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 11 Aug 2023 10:09:11 -0000 (UTC), Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Michel Van den Berghe <nospam02@myonline.be> wrote:
>>>>>> That's right. I travel with an Interrail pass, which gives me complete
>>>>>> flexibility.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I can catch the next train. However, at my destination, Carlisle, I
>>>>>> have a bus connection to Newcastleton and the next bus is several hours
>>>>>> later.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I can leave London at 9,30, I am in Newcastleton at 14,43. If I miss
>>>>>> the 9,30 train in London, I am at 18,02 in Newcastleton.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Even without customs it can take a while to exit StP from a Eurostar,
>>>>> especially if you are at the rear of the train. The entire trainload of
>>>>> passengers is funnelled through one single exit.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, it can be very slow to get to the exit from the back of the train, so
>>>> it's much better to be in a high numbered carriage, near the front of the
>>>> train. In 374s, the front and rear three coaches are premier and the rest
>>>> standard. So the forward-most premier class coach is no 16, and standard
>>>> class coach is no 13.
>>>
>>> Oops, I got that the wrong way round. Low carriage numbers are the London end.
>>>
>>
>> Until I double-checked, I thought they had low numbers leading which ever
>> direction (hence the carriage number being on a screen rather than a
>> sticker) [1], but it seems that actually the low numbers are always at the
>> London end.
>>
>> [1] and the ability to have permanent signs pointing passengers to the
>> correct ramp for their end of the train, from the departure lounges. But I
>> guess there's minimal risk of a Eurostar set being turned, and ending up
>> wrong way around.
>>
>>
>
> Could accidentality get routed at Lille towards GdN from Brussels I
> suppose, and vice-versa.
>

I gather that Eurostar might be using some of its surplus 373/4 fleet on
its Paris-Brussels services, so there would be the possibility of
accidentally turning a set on the Lille triangle.

Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
> Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 12/08/2023 14:41, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
>>> Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 11 Aug 2023 10:09:11 -0000 (UTC), Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Michel Van den Berghe <nospam02@myonline.be> wrote:
>>>>>>> That's right. I travel with an Interrail pass, which gives me complete
>>>>>>> flexibility.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I can catch the next train. However, at my destination, Carlisle, I
>>>>>>> have a bus connection to Newcastleton and the next bus is several hours
>>>>>>> later.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I can leave London at 9,30, I am in Newcastleton at 14,43. If I miss
>>>>>>> the 9,30 train in London, I am at 18,02 in Newcastleton.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Even without customs it can take a while to exit StP from a Eurostar,
>>>>>> especially if you are at the rear of the train. The entire trainload of
>>>>>> passengers is funnelled through one single exit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, it can be very slow to get to the exit from the back of the train, so
>>>>> it's much better to be in a high numbered carriage, near the front of the
>>>>> train. In 374s, the front and rear three coaches are premier and the rest
>>>>> standard. So the forward-most premier class coach is no 16, and standard
>>>>> class coach is no 13.
>>>>
>>>> Oops, I got that the wrong way round. Low carriage numbers are the London end.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Until I double-checked, I thought they had low numbers leading which ever
>>> direction (hence the carriage number being on a screen rather than a
>>> sticker) [1], but it seems that actually the low numbers are always at the
>>> London end.
>>>
>>> [1] and the ability to have permanent signs pointing passengers to the
>>> correct ramp for their end of the train, from the departure lounges. But I
>>> guess there's minimal risk of a Eurostar set being turned, and ending up
>>> wrong way around.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Could accidentality get routed at Lille towards GdN from Brussels I
>> suppose, and vice-versa.
>>
>
> I gather that Eurostar might be using some of its surplus 373/4 fleet on
> its Paris-Brussels services, so there would be the possibility of
> accidentally turning a set on the Lille triangle.
>
>

If the stock arrangement is symmetrical about the mid point of the train
renumbering after a reversal out to be possible at the press of a button,
as the displays are electronic.

Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
> Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On 12/08/2023 14:41, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
>>>> Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 11 Aug 2023 10:09:11 -0000 (UTC), Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Michel Van den Berghe <nospam02@myonline.be> wrote:
>>>>>>>> That's right. I travel with an Interrail pass, which gives me complete
>>>>>>>> flexibility.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So I can catch the next train. However, at my destination, Carlisle, I
>>>>>>>> have a bus connection to Newcastleton and the next bus is several hours
>>>>>>>> later.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If I can leave London at 9,30, I am in Newcastleton at 14,43. If I miss
>>>>>>>> the 9,30 train in London, I am at 18,02 in Newcastleton.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Even without customs it can take a while to exit StP from a Eurostar,
>>>>>>> especially if you are at the rear of the train. The entire trainload of
>>>>>>> passengers is funnelled through one single exit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, it can be very slow to get to the exit from the back of the train, so
>>>>>> it's much better to be in a high numbered carriage, near the front of the
>>>>>> train. In 374s, the front and rear three coaches are premier and the rest
>>>>>> standard. So the forward-most premier class coach is no 16, and standard
>>>>>> class coach is no 13.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oops, I got that the wrong way round. Low carriage numbers are the London end.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Until I double-checked, I thought they had low numbers leading which ever
>>>> direction (hence the carriage number being on a screen rather than a
>>>> sticker) [1], but it seems that actually the low numbers are always at the
>>>> London end.
>>>>
>>>> [1] and the ability to have permanent signs pointing passengers to the
>>>> correct ramp for their end of the train, from the departure lounges. But I
>>>> guess there's minimal risk of a Eurostar set being turned, and ending up
>>>> wrong way around.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Could accidentality get routed at Lille towards GdN from Brussels I
>>> suppose, and vice-versa.
>>>
>>
>> I gather that Eurostar might be using some of its surplus 373/4 fleet on
>> its Paris-Brussels services, so there would be the possibility of
>> accidentally turning a set on the Lille triangle.
>>
>>
>
> If the stock arrangement is symmetrical about the mid point of the train
> renumbering after a reversal out to be possible at the press of a button,
> as the displays are electronic.

Yes, I think both types of train consist of two identical half-trains
coupled back-to-back, so they're designed to be reversible. That's why the
standard/premier class sections are arranged symmetrically. I suspect the
carriage numbers are generated automatically by the train.