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* Apropos absolutely nothing - dateSid Nuncius
+* Apropos absolutely nothing - dateRosemary Miskin
|`- Apropos absolutely nothing - dateSid Nuncius
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 by: Sid Nuncius - Thu, 3 Feb 2022 08:24 UTC

I had to date a bag of stuff for the freezer yesterday evening and was
childishly pleased to note that I wrote 2.2.22.

No doubt people have discussed this elsewhere, but it was the first time
I noticed it.

Er...that's it.

--
Sid
(Make sure Matron is away when you reply)

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 by: Rosemary Miskin - Thu, 3 Feb 2022 09:02 UTC

On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 8:24:24 AM UTC, Sid Nuncius wrote:
> I had to date a bag of stuff for the freezer yesterday evening and was
> childishly pleased to note that I wrote 2.2.22.

and later in the month, we'll have 22/02/2022

Rosemary

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 by: Sid Nuncius - Thu, 3 Feb 2022 09:19 UTC

On 03/02/2022 09:02, Rosemary Miskin wrote:
> On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 8:24:24 AM UTC, Sid Nuncius wrote:
>> I had to date a bag of stuff for the freezer yesterday evening and was
>> childishly pleased to note that I wrote 2.2.22.
>
> and later in the month, we'll have 22/02/2022

I didn't think of that. Duh!

How pleasingly palindromic.

--
Sid
(Make sure Matron is away when you reply)

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 by: Clive Arthur - Thu, 3 Feb 2022 11:49 UTC

On 03/02/2022 08:24, Sid Nuncius wrote:
> I had to date a bag of stuff for the freezer yesterday evening and was
> childishly pleased to note that I wrote 2.2.22.
>
> No doubt people have discussed this elsewhere, but it was the first time
> I noticed it.
>
> Er...that's it.
>
For they'll beat a tattoo at two to two,
A rat-a-tattoo at two Boohoo!

And the Dragon will come when it hears the drum
At a minute or two to two to-day,

At a minute or two to two !

Why hullabaloo? You die to-day

At a minute or two to two,
A thing distinctly hard to say
But an easy thing to do !
For they'll beat a tattoo at two to two,
A rat-a-tat-tat tattoo for you!
And the Dragon will come when he hears the drum;
There's nothing for you to do but stay,
And the Dragon will do for you !

(I always thought it strange when young that a German should write of
England.)

--
Cheers
Clive

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 by: Tony Smith - Thu, 3 Feb 2022 13:16 UTC

On Thursday, 3 February 2022 at 08:24:24 UTC, Sid Nuncius wrote:
> I had to date a bag of stuff for the freezer yesterday evening and was
> childishly pleased to note that I wrote 2.2.22.
>
> No doubt people have discussed this elsewhere, but it was the first time
> I noticed it.
>
> Er...that's it.
>
> --
> Sid
> (Make sure Matron is away when you reply)
I recall 5 May '55. A schoolmistress, maybe the deputy head, certainly not my form-master, pointed it out to the class as 5/5/55.

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 by: J. P. Gilliver (John - Thu, 3 Feb 2022 17:31 UTC

On Thu, 3 Feb 2022 at 08:24:22, Sid Nuncius <nuncius@hotmail.co.uk>
wrote (my responses usually follow points raised):
>I had to date a bag of stuff for the freezer yesterday evening and was
>childishly pleased to note that I wrote 2.2.22.

Although I write four-digit years, I did notice it ...
>
>No doubt people have discussed this elsewhere, but it was the first
>time I noticed it.

.... and I _haven't_ seen anyone else mentioning it.
>
>Er...that's it.
>
(I hadn't spotted the one on the 22nd that Rosemary mentioned though.)

I suppose, especially for those who _do_ only write two-digit years,
there will be about a score of similar every century - 1/1/1 ... 9/9/9,
10/11/01 etc., 09/11/90 ...
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

A perfectionist takes infinite pains and often gives them to others

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 by: Jenny M Benson - Thu, 3 Feb 2022 18:00 UTC

On 03/02/2022 13:16, Tony Smith wrote:
> On Thursday, 3 February 2022 at 08:24:24 UTC, Sid Nuncius wrote:
>> I had to date a bag of stuff for the freezer yesterday evening and was
>> childishly pleased to note that I wrote 2.2.22.
>>
>> No doubt people have discussed this elsewhere, but it was the first time
>> I noticed it.
>>
>> Er...that's it.
>>
>> --
>> Sid
>> (Make sure Matron is away when you reply)
> I recall 5 May '55. A schoolmistress, maybe the deputy head, certainly not my form-master, pointed it out to the class as 5/5/55.

Now that you mention it, I remember it being noted at my school, too. I
rather think it was a form-mate who wrote the date on the blackboard.

--
Jenny M Benson
Wrexham, UK

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 by: Nick Odell - Thu, 3 Feb 2022 19:43 UTC

On Thu, 3 Feb 2022 08:24:22 +0000, Sid Nuncius <nuncius@hotmail.co.uk>
wrote:

>I had to date a bag of stuff for the freezer yesterday evening and was
>childishly pleased to note that I wrote 2.2.22.
>
>No doubt people have discussed this elsewhere, but it was the first time
>I noticed it.
>
>Er...that's it.

Could you explain this concept of dating bags of food? Doesn't
everybody else have a freezer full of UFOs?[1] Oh. Just me then?

Nick
[1]Unidentified Frozen Objects

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 by: J. P. Gilliver (John - Thu, 3 Feb 2022 23:30 UTC

On Thu, 3 Feb 2022 at 19:43:33, Nick Odell
<nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote (my responses usually follow
points raised):
>On Thu, 3 Feb 2022 08:24:22 +0000, Sid Nuncius <nuncius@hotmail.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>I had to date a bag of stuff for the freezer yesterday evening and was
>>childishly pleased to note that I wrote 2.2.22.
>>
>>No doubt people have discussed this elsewhere, but it was the first time
>>I noticed it.
>>
>>Er...that's it.
>
>Could you explain this concept of dating bags of food? Doesn't

There's someone for everyone ...

>everybody else have a freezer full of UFOs?[1] Oh. Just me then?
>
.... oh.
>
>Nick
>[1]Unidentified Frozen Objects
(-:
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Sarcasm: Barbed ire

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 by: Joe Kerr - Thu, 3 Feb 2022 23:44 UTC

On 03/02/2022 19:43, Nick Odell wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Feb 2022 08:24:22 +0000, Sid Nuncius <nuncius@hotmail.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> I had to date a bag of stuff for the freezer yesterday evening and was
>> childishly pleased to note that I wrote 2.2.22.
>>
>> No doubt people have discussed this elsewhere, but it was the first time
>> I noticed it.
>>
>> Er...that's it.
>
> Could you explain this concept of dating bags of food? Doesn't
> everybody else have a freezer full of UFOs?[1] Oh. Just me then?
>
>
> Nick
> [1]Unidentified Frozen Objects

I dated a bag of frozen food once: Turned out to be frigid.

--
Ric

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 by: Chris J Dixon - Fri, 4 Feb 2022 08:31 UTC

Nick Odell wrote:

>Could you explain this concept of dating bags of food? Doesn't
>everybody else have a freezer full of UFOs?[1] Oh. Just me then?
>
>
>Nick
>[1]Unidentified Frozen Objects

Way back in the 80s, when ex and I separated, I ended up with the
chest freezer, and much of its contents. Most stuff was readily
identifiable, though our labelling wasn't very consistent.

There was one container that I couldn't even make up my mind
whether it was sweet or savoury. Eventually I thawed it and
discovered it was squab pie (I still ate meat back then) which
contained both lamb and apples.

Nowadays I am much more organised, and there is a categorised
Freezer List, constantly updated (with an annual stocktake to
resolve poor bookkeeping)

Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham
'48/33 M B+ G++ A L(-) I S-- CH0(--)(p) Ar- T+ H0 ?Q
chris@cdixon.me.uk @ChrisJDixon1
Plant amazing Acers.

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 by: steve hague - Fri, 4 Feb 2022 14:11 UTC

On 03/02/2022 19:43, Nick Odell wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Feb 2022 08:24:22 +0000, Sid Nuncius <nuncius@hotmail.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> I had to date a bag of stuff for the freezer yesterday evening and was
>> childishly pleased to note that I wrote 2.2.22.
>>
>> No doubt people have discussed this elsewhere, but it was the first time
>> I noticed it.
>>
>> Er...that's it.
>
> Could you explain this concept of dating bags of food? Doesn't
> everybody else have a freezer full of UFOs?[1] Oh. Just me then?
>
>
> Nick
> [1]Unidentified Frozen Objects

Not just you. Every couple of years I go through the freezer and throw
anything I don't recognise away.
Steve

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 by: Mike McMillan - Fri, 4 Feb 2022 14:39 UTC

steve hague <stevehague82@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 03/02/2022 19:43, Nick Odell wrote:
>> On Thu, 3 Feb 2022 08:24:22 +0000, Sid Nuncius <nuncius@hotmail.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I had to date a bag of stuff for the freezer yesterday evening and was
>>> childishly pleased to note that I wrote 2.2.22.
>>>
>>> No doubt people have discussed this elsewhere, but it was the first time
>>> I noticed it.
>>>
>>> Er...that's it.
>>
>> Could you explain this concept of dating bags of food? Doesn't
>> everybody else have a freezer full of UFOs?[1] Oh. Just me then?
>>
>>
>> Nick
>> [1]Unidentified Frozen Objects
>
> Not just you. Every couple of years I go through the freezer and throw
> anything I don't recognise away.
> Steve
>

Every couple of years!!!!!????? Puts a new meaning on the expression ‘Being
overzealous’ IMHO, I mean, come on, if you don’t put a date on the package,
it can’t pass a ‘use by’ date - ever! One has to be a little more frugal -
2 years, stuff and nonsense I say.;-)))

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

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 by: J. P. Gilliver (John - Fri, 4 Feb 2022 15:44 UTC

On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 at 14:39:12, Mike McMillan
<toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> wrote (my responses usually follow points
raised):
[]
>> Not just you. Every couple of years I go through the freezer and throw
>> anything I don't recognise away.
>> Steve
>>
>
>Every couple of years!!!!!????? Puts a new meaning on the expression ‘Being
>overzealous’ IMHO, I mean, come on, if you don’t put a date on the package,
>it can’t pass a ‘use by’ date - ever! One has to be a little more
>frugal -
>2 years, stuff and nonsense I say.;-)))
>
Indeed! Not sure if two years, but I've had things in the _fridge_ part
that are well past their date (certainly months); if you worry about a
week or two, I think what's in my 'fridge at the moment may be that far
past.

Currently nibbling from a cheddar, oatcakes, and chutney gift pack I was
given at Christmas, which has 04 JAN 2022 on the outside and on the
cheddars. It's fine (nice, in fact).
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"In the _car_-park? What are you doing there?" "Parking cars, what else does one
do in a car-park?" (First series, fit the fifth.)

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 by: Jenny M Benson - Fri, 4 Feb 2022 17:01 UTC

On 04/02/2022 15:44, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
> Indeed! Not sure if two years, but I've had things in the _fridge_ part
> that are well past their date (certainly months); if you worry about a
> week or two, I think what's in my 'fridge at the moment may be that far
> past.
>
> Currently nibbling from a cheddar, oatcakes, and chutney gift pack I was
> given at Christmas, which has 04 JAN 2022 on the outside and on the
> cheddars. It's fine (nice, in fact).

My rule is: if it looks all right and smells all right it's all right.
I never even look at dates (except the edible kind.)

As far as I am aware, I have never had food poisoning.

--
Jenny M Benson
Wrexham, UK

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 by: Penny - Fri, 4 Feb 2022 17:53 UTC

On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 17:01:55 +0000, Jenny M Benson <NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk>
scrawled in the dust...

>On 04/02/2022 15:44, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
>> Indeed! Not sure if two years, but I've had things in the _fridge_ part
>> that are well past their date (certainly months); if you worry about a
>> week or two, I think what's in my 'fridge at the moment may be that far
>> past.
>>
>> Currently nibbling from a cheddar, oatcakes, and chutney gift pack I was
>> given at Christmas, which has 04 JAN 2022 on the outside and on the
>> cheddars. It's fine (nice, in fact).
>
>My rule is: if it looks all right and smells all right it's all right.
> I never even look at dates (except the edible kind.)

AIUI botulinum does not smell. OTOH, it does not reproduce in temperatures
below 12 degrees, so if your fridge is working properly and not over full
you might be OK.

>As far as I am aware, I have never had food poisoning.

Just chuck that ancient canned stuff out if the tin is dented and/or
bulging. Or boil it for 10 minutes before eating.
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959

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 by: Nick Odell - Fri, 4 Feb 2022 22:02 UTC

On Fri, 04 Feb 2022 17:53:35 +0000, Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com>
wrote:

>On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 17:01:55 +0000, Jenny M Benson <NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk>
>scrawled in the dust...
>
>>On 04/02/2022 15:44, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
>>> Indeed! Not sure if two years, but I've had things in the _fridge_ part
>>> that are well past their date (certainly months); if you worry about a
>>> week or two, I think what's in my 'fridge at the moment may be that far
>>> past.
>>>
>>> Currently nibbling from a cheddar, oatcakes, and chutney gift pack I was
>>> given at Christmas, which has 04 JAN 2022 on the outside and on the
>>> cheddars. It's fine (nice, in fact).
>>
>>My rule is: if it looks all right and smells all right it's all right.
>> I never even look at dates (except the edible kind.)
>
>AIUI botulinum does not smell. OTOH, it does not reproduce in temperatures
>below 12 degrees, so if your fridge is working properly and not over full
>you might be OK.
>
>>As far as I am aware, I have never had food poisoning.
>
>Just chuck that ancient canned stuff out if the tin is dented and/or
>bulging. Or boil it for 10 minutes before eating.

I only would worry if the tin were bulging - not that I've ever had
one like that - because dents are just part of the rough and tumble of
shelf life. I think the argument surrounding dents is that the plating
inside might be forced so much that it exposes the base metal and may
form rust inside the can. I've opened perfectly formed cans, well
within their sell-by dates and still found rust as a result of
inadequate plating.

Nick

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 by: Penny - Fri, 4 Feb 2022 23:26 UTC

On Fri, 04 Feb 2022 22:02:25 +0000, Nick Odell
<nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> scrawled in the dust...

>On Fri, 04 Feb 2022 17:53:35 +0000, Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 17:01:55 +0000, Jenny M Benson <NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk>
>>scrawled in the dust...
>>
>>>On 04/02/2022 15:44, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
>>>> Indeed! Not sure if two years, but I've had things in the _fridge_ part
>>>> that are well past their date (certainly months); if you worry about a
>>>> week or two, I think what's in my 'fridge at the moment may be that far
>>>> past.
>>>>
>>>> Currently nibbling from a cheddar, oatcakes, and chutney gift pack I was
>>>> given at Christmas, which has 04 JAN 2022 on the outside and on the
>>>> cheddars. It's fine (nice, in fact).
>>>
>>>My rule is: if it looks all right and smells all right it's all right.
>>> I never even look at dates (except the edible kind.)
>>
>>AIUI botulinum does not smell. OTOH, it does not reproduce in temperatures
>>below 12 degrees, so if your fridge is working properly and not over full
>>you might be OK.
>>
>>>As far as I am aware, I have never had food poisoning.
>>
>>Just chuck that ancient canned stuff out if the tin is dented and/or
>>bulging. Or boil it for 10 minutes before eating.
>
>I only would worry if the tin were bulging - not that I've ever had
>one like that - because dents are just part of the rough and tumble of
>shelf life. I think the argument surrounding dents is that the plating
>inside might be forced so much that it exposes the base metal and may
>form rust inside the can. I've opened perfectly formed cans, well
>within their sell-by dates and still found rust as a result of
>inadequate plating.

I think the fear with dented cans is the possibility of very small holes.
Apparently the botulinum toxin can be sucked in and grow enough to kill you
before it causes the can to bulge.
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959

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 by: Sam Plusnet - Sat, 5 Feb 2022 18:51 UTC

On 04-Feb-22 23:26, Penny wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Feb 2022 22:02:25 +0000, Nick Odell
> <nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> scrawled in the dust...
>
>> On Fri, 04 Feb 2022 17:53:35 +0000, Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 17:01:55 +0000, Jenny M Benson <NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk>
>>> scrawled in the dust...
>>>
>>>> On 04/02/2022 15:44, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
>>>>> Indeed! Not sure if two years, but I've had things in the _fridge_ part
>>>>> that are well past their date (certainly months); if you worry about a
>>>>> week or two, I think what's in my 'fridge at the moment may be that far
>>>>> past.
>>>>>
>>>>> Currently nibbling from a cheddar, oatcakes, and chutney gift pack I was
>>>>> given at Christmas, which has 04 JAN 2022 on the outside and on the
>>>>> cheddars. It's fine (nice, in fact).
>>>>
>>>> My rule is: if it looks all right and smells all right it's all right.
>>>> I never even look at dates (except the edible kind.)
>>>
>>> AIUI botulinum does not smell. OTOH, it does not reproduce in temperatures
>>> below 12 degrees, so if your fridge is working properly and not over full
>>> you might be OK.
>>>
>>>> As far as I am aware, I have never had food poisoning.
>>>
>>> Just chuck that ancient canned stuff out if the tin is dented and/or
>>> bulging. Or boil it for 10 minutes before eating.
>>
>> I only would worry if the tin were bulging - not that I've ever had
>> one like that - because dents are just part of the rough and tumble of
>> shelf life. I think the argument surrounding dents is that the plating
>> inside might be forced so much that it exposes the base metal and may
>> form rust inside the can. I've opened perfectly formed cans, well
>> within their sell-by dates and still found rust as a result of
>> inadequate plating.
>
> I think the fear with dented cans is the possibility of very small holes.
> Apparently the botulinum toxin can be sucked in and grow enough to kill you
> before it causes the can to bulge.

But would botulinum lurk on the outside of a tin just on the off chance
that it might, at some point in the distant future, get a chance to invade?

--
Sam Plusnet

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 by: Joe Kerr - Sat, 5 Feb 2022 19:35 UTC

On 04/02/2022 15:44, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 at 14:39:12, Mike McMillan
> <toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> wrote (my responses usually follow points
> raised):
> []
>>> Not just you. Every couple of years I go through the freezer and throw
>>> anything I don't recognise away.
>>> Steve
>>>
>>
>> Every couple of years!!!!!????? Puts a new meaning on the expression
>> ‘Being
>> overzealous’ IMHO, I mean, come on, if you don’t put a date on the
>> package,
>> it can’t pass a ‘use by’ date - ever! One has to be a little more
>> frugal -
>> 2 years, stuff and nonsense I say.;-)))
>>
> Indeed! Not sure if two years, but I've had things in the _fridge_ part
> that are well past their date (certainly months); if you worry about a
> week or two, I think what's in my 'fridge at the moment may be that far
> past.
>
> Currently nibbling from a cheddar, oatcakes, and chutney gift pack I was
> given at Christmas, which has 04 JAN 2022 on the outside and on the
> cheddars. It's fine (nice, in fact).

I know there is stuff in the freezer over two years old without going to
check.

I found some things in the back of my aunt's kitchen cupboards in
bottles with glass stoppers that quite possibly date back to the 1940's.
It was rare to find anything in her house that wasn't past its Not So
Good After Date.

--
Ric

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 by: Penny - Sat, 5 Feb 2022 23:21 UTC

On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 19:35:05 +0000, Joe Kerr <joe_kerr@cheerful.com>
scrawled in the dust...

>I know there is stuff in the freezer over two years old without going to
>check.

Likewise, I think some of the fruit in mine may be 10 years old... it get's
a bit dry but the flavour seems to last.

>I found some things in the back of my aunt's kitchen cupboards in
>bottles with glass stoppers that quite possibly date back to the 1940's.
>It was rare to find anything in her house that wasn't past its Not So
>Good After Date.

I know there is stuff in my kitchen that is much older than my children,
possibly even older than me, which came from my Granny's place. I'm not
likely to actually use it but the novelty (that can't be the right word) of
the product and the glass vial it was sold in, meant I wasn't going to
throw it out.

I think there may also be a few items, not quite so old, which predate the
dating of edible groceries. Not sure why I've moved house twice without
discarding them.
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959

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 by: Mike McMillan - Sun, 6 Feb 2022 08:46 UTC

Joe Kerr <joe_kerr@cheerful.com> wrote:
> On 04/02/2022 15:44, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 at 14:39:12, Mike McMillan
>> <toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> wrote (my responses usually follow points
>> raised):
>> []
>>>> Not just you. Every couple of years I go through the freezer and throw
>>>> anything I don't recognise away.
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>
>>> Every couple of years!!!!!????? Puts a new meaning on the expression
>>> ‘Being
>>> overzealous’ IMHO, I mean, come on, if you don’t put a date on the
>>> package,
>>> it can’t pass a ‘use by’ date - ever! One has to be a little more
>>> frugal -
>>> 2 years, stuff and nonsense I say.;-)))
>>>
>> Indeed! Not sure if two years, but I've had things in the _fridge_ part
>> that are well past their date (certainly months); if you worry about a
>> week or two, I think what's in my 'fridge at the moment may be that far
>> past.
>>
>> Currently nibbling from a cheddar, oatcakes, and chutney gift pack I was
>> given at Christmas, which has 04 JAN 2022 on the outside and on the
>> cheddars. It's fine (nice, in fact).
>
> I know there is stuff in the freezer over two years old without going to
> check.
>
> I found some things in the back of my aunt's kitchen cupboards in
> bottles with glass stoppers that quite possibly date back to the 1940's.
> It was rare to find anything in her house that wasn't past its Not So
> Good After Date.
>

Would that be the equivalent of the ‘I think I might have to tidy this
cupboard in the next decade or so’ guideline?

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

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 by: Joe Kerr - Sun, 6 Feb 2022 23:43 UTC

On 06/02/2022 08:46, Mike McMillan wrote:
> Joe Kerr <joe_kerr@cheerful.com> wrote:
>> On 04/02/2022 15:44, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 at 14:39:12, Mike McMillan
>>> <toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> wrote (my responses usually follow points
>>> raised):
>>> []
>>>>> Not just you. Every couple of years I go through the freezer and throw
>>>>> anything I don't recognise away.
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Every couple of years!!!!!????? Puts a new meaning on the expression
>>>> ‘Being
>>>> overzealous’ IMHO, I mean, come on, if you don’t put a date on the
>>>> package,
>>>> it can’t pass a ‘use by’ date - ever! One has to be a little more
>>>> frugal -
>>>> 2 years, stuff and nonsense I say.;-)))
>>>>
>>> Indeed! Not sure if two years, but I've had things in the _fridge_ part
>>> that are well past their date (certainly months); if you worry about a
>>> week or two, I think what's in my 'fridge at the moment may be that far
>>> past.
>>>
>>> Currently nibbling from a cheddar, oatcakes, and chutney gift pack I was
>>> given at Christmas, which has 04 JAN 2022 on the outside and on the
>>> cheddars. It's fine (nice, in fact).
>>
>> I know there is stuff in the freezer over two years old without going to
>> check.
>>
>> I found some things in the back of my aunt's kitchen cupboards in
>> bottles with glass stoppers that quite possibly date back to the 1940's.
>> It was rare to find anything in her house that wasn't past its Not So
>> Good After Date.
>>
>
> Would that be the equivalent of the ‘I think I might have to tidy this
> cupboard in the next decade or so’ guideline?
>
Probably. Combined with thrift, "I ought to tidy this away" syndrome, a
bad memory, and being too short to reach the back of her cupboards.

--
Ric

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 by: steve hague - Mon, 7 Feb 2022 16:51 UTC

On 06/02/2022 23:43, Joe Kerr wrote:
> On 06/02/2022 08:46, Mike McMillan wrote:
>> Joe Kerr <joe_kerr@cheerful.com> wrote:
>>> On 04/02/2022 15:44, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 at 14:39:12, Mike McMillan
>>>> <toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> wrote (my responses usually follow points
>>>> raised):
>>>> []
>>>>>> Not just you. Every couple of years I go through the freezer and
>>>>>> throw
>>>>>> anything I don't recognise away.
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Every couple of years!!!!!????? Puts a new meaning on the expression
>>>>> ‘Being
>>>>> overzealous’ IMHO, I mean, come on, if you don’t put a date on the
>>>>> package,
>>>>> it can’t pass a ‘use by’ date - ever! One has to be a little more
>>>>> frugal -
>>>>> 2 years, stuff and nonsense I say.;-)))
>>>>>
>>>> Indeed! Not sure if two years, but I've had things in the _fridge_ part
>>>> that are well past their date (certainly months); if you worry about a
>>>> week or two, I think what's in my 'fridge at the moment may be that far
>>>> past.
>>>>
>>>> Currently nibbling from a cheddar, oatcakes, and chutney gift pack I
>>>> was
>>>> given at Christmas, which has 04 JAN 2022 on the outside and on the
>>>> cheddars. It's fine (nice, in fact).
>>>
>>> I know there is stuff in the freezer over two years old without going to
>>> check.
>>>
>>> I found some things in the back of my aunt's kitchen cupboards in
>>> bottles with glass stoppers that quite possibly date back to the 1940's.
>>> It was rare to find anything in her house that wasn't past its Not So
>>> Good After Date.
>>>
>>
>> Would that be the equivalent of the ‘I think I might have to tidy this
>> cupboard in the next decade or so’ guideline?
>>
> Probably. Combined with thrift, "I ought to tidy this away" syndrome, a
> bad memory, and being too short to reach the back of her cupboards.
>
Just a few short steps away from becoming a hoarder I'm afraid.
Steve

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 by: Nick Odell - Mon, 7 Feb 2022 20:44 UTC

On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 16:51:14 +0000, steve hague
<stevehague82@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 06/02/2022 23:43, Joe Kerr wrote:
>> On 06/02/2022 08:46, Mike McMillan wrote:
>>> Joe Kerr <joe_kerr@cheerful.com> wrote:
>>>> On 04/02/2022 15:44, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 at 14:39:12, Mike McMillan
>>>>> <toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> wrote (my responses usually follow points
>>>>> raised):
>>>>> []
>>>>>>> Not just you. Every couple of years I go through the freezer and
>>>>>>> throw
>>>>>>> anything I don't recognise away.
>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Every couple of years!!!!!????? Puts a new meaning on the expression
>>>>>> ‘Being
>>>>>> overzealous’ IMHO, I mean, come on, if you don’t put a date on the
>>>>>> package,
>>>>>> it can’t pass a ‘use by’ date - ever! One has to be a little more
>>>>>> frugal -
>>>>>> 2 years, stuff and nonsense I say.;-)))
>>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed! Not sure if two years, but I've had things in the _fridge_ part
>>>>> that are well past their date (certainly months); if you worry about a
>>>>> week or two, I think what's in my 'fridge at the moment may be that far
>>>>> past.
>>>>>
>>>>> Currently nibbling from a cheddar, oatcakes, and chutney gift pack I
>>>>> was
>>>>> given at Christmas, which has 04 JAN 2022 on the outside and on the
>>>>> cheddars. It's fine (nice, in fact).
>>>>
>>>> I know there is stuff in the freezer over two years old without going to
>>>> check.
>>>>
>>>> I found some things in the back of my aunt's kitchen cupboards in
>>>> bottles with glass stoppers that quite possibly date back to the 1940's.
>>>> It was rare to find anything in her house that wasn't past its Not So
>>>> Good After Date.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Would that be the equivalent of the ‘I think I might have to tidy this
>>> cupboard in the next decade or so’ guideline?
>>>
>> Probably. Combined with thrift, "I ought to tidy this away" syndrome, a
>> bad memory, and being too short to reach the back of her cupboards.
>>
>Just a few short steps away from becoming a hoarder I'm afraid.
>Steve

I also fear that I am a few short steps away from becoming a hoarder..
....but from the other side of the line.

Nick

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