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* brake discs and brake pads questions.........SH
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+* Re: brake discs and brake pads questions.........Roger Mills
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+- Re: brake discs and brake pads questions.........Dave Plowman (News)
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 by: SH - Wed, 8 Jun 2022 18:57 UTC

I have a VW Golf Estate owned from new in 2016 and on its original set
of front and rear brake pads.

Its an 6 spd DSG auto box & diesel blue motion and with an electronic
parking brake with all teh usual stuff like ABS, ESP, and adaptive
cruise control.

the rear pads are much closer to their wear limit than the front pads.
Is this normal or usual?

I had thougth the fronts wear quicker than rears, which is certainly
true for the tyres on it.....

The car has done 55,900 miiles.

Most garages are only quoting for front and rear pad replacement.

So will the current discs last till the next pad change at circa 110k
and still be above their minimum thickness?

I am led to believe that if the discs are replaced due to being too
thin, the pads should also be replaced as well. So what is a reasonable
mileage to expect from a set of discs?

So Should I have the discs replaced while the wheels are off the car and
during the pad change or leave the discs well alone?

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 by: Tim+ - Wed, 8 Jun 2022 19:35 UTC

SH <i.love@spam.com> wrote:
> I have a VW Golf Estate owned from new in 2016 and on its original set
> of front and rear brake pads.
>
> Its an 6 spd DSG auto box & diesel blue motion and with an electronic
> parking brake with all teh usual stuff like ABS, ESP, and adaptive
> cruise control.
>
> the rear pads are much closer to their wear limit than the front pads.
> Is this normal or usual?
>
> I had thougth the fronts wear quicker than rears, which is certainly
> true for the tyres on it.....
>
> The car has done 55,900 miiles.
>
> Most garages are only quoting for front and rear pad replacement.
>
> So will the current discs last till the next pad change at circa 110k
> and still be above their minimum thickness?
>
> I am led to believe that if the discs are replaced due to being too
> thin, the pads should also be replaced as well. So what is a reasonable
> mileage to expect from a set of discs?
>
> So Should I have the discs replaced while the wheels are off the car and
> during the pad change or leave the discs well alone?
>

At that mileage, I’d replace them. Discs are softer than they used to be I
believe and are considered a disposable item these days. A false economy to
hang onto ones that old.

Odd that your rears are more worn. Suggests sticking callipers as they
really ought to wear much more slowly than the fronts. Time for a brake
overhaul I think.

Tim

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 by: Roger Mills - Thu, 9 Jun 2022 11:13 UTC

On 08/06/2022 19:57, SH wrote:
> I have a VW Golf Estate owned from new in 2016 and on its original set
> of front and rear brake pads.
>
> Its an 6 spd DSG auto box & diesel blue motion and with an electronic
> parking brake with all teh usual stuff like ABS, ESP, and adaptive
> cruise control.
>
> the rear pads are much closer to their wear limit than the front pads.
> Is this normal or usual?
>
> I had thougth the fronts wear quicker than rears, which is certainly
> true for the tyres on it.....
>
> The car has done 55,900 miiles.
>
> Most garages are only quoting for front and rear pad replacement.
>
> So will the current discs last till the next pad change at circa 110k
> and still be above their minimum thickness?
>
> I am led to believe that if the discs are replaced due to being too
> thin, the pads should also be replaced as well. So what is a reasonable
> mileage to expect from a set of discs?
>
> So Should I have the discs replaced while the wheels are off the car and
> during the pad change or leave the discs well alone?

A sizeable part of the cost of brake replacement is labour so, if you're
paying someone to do it, it makes economic sense to replace both pads
and discs at the same time.

However, if you're doing it yourself, it's a different matter. In my
case, the Hyundai dealer wanted over 400 quid for replacing the front
pads and discs on my Tucson. There was nothing actually wrong with the
discs - they were well within their wear limits, and not scored. I kept
the original discs and just fitted new pads at a cost of not much more
than 40 quid.

Like others, I think it's odd that your rear brakes have worn more than
the front one - sounds like they've been binding - and need
investigating. Have you noticed a detrimental effect on fuel consumption?
--
Cheers,
Roger

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 by: SH - Thu, 9 Jun 2022 12:07 UTC

On 09/06/2022 12:13, Roger Mills wrote:
> On 08/06/2022 19:57, SH wrote:
>> I have a VW Golf Estate owned from new in 2016 and on its original set
>> of front and rear brake pads.
>>
>> Its an 6 spd DSG auto box & diesel blue motion and with an electronic
>> parking brake with all teh usual stuff like ABS, ESP, and adaptive
>> cruise control.
>>
>> the rear pads are much closer to their wear limit than the front pads.
>> Is this normal or usual?
>>
>> I had thougth the fronts wear quicker than rears, which is certainly
>> true for the tyres on it.....
>>
>> The car has done 55,900 miiles.
>>
>> Most garages are only quoting for front and rear pad replacement.
>>
>> So will the current discs last till the next pad change at circa 110k
>> and still be above their minimum thickness?
>>
>> I am led to believe that if the discs are replaced due to being too
>> thin, the pads should also be replaced as well. So what is a
>> reasonable mileage to expect from a set of discs?
>>
>> So Should I have the discs replaced while the wheels are off the car
>> and during the pad change or leave the discs well alone?
>
> A sizeable part of the cost of brake replacement is labour so, if you're
> paying someone to do it, it makes economic sense to replace both pads
> and discs at the same time.
>
> However, if you're doing it yourself, it's a different matter. In my
> case, the Hyundai dealer wanted over 400 quid for replacing the front
> pads and discs on my Tucson. There was nothing actually wrong with the
> discs - they were well within their wear limits, and not scored. I kept
> the original discs and just fitted new pads at a cost of not much more
> than 40 quid.
>
> Like others, I think it's odd that your rear brakes have worn more than
> the front one - sounds like they've been binding - and need
> investigating. Have you noticed a detrimental effect on fuel consumption?

the rear pads have worn the same on both sides, so what are the chances
of both rear calipers sticking?

I ha ve not noticed any changes in fuel consumption, i get 650 miles per
tankful (i reset the trip mileage meter at every fill up and the onboard
computer tells me ave mpg is 52 to 56.

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 by: Brian - Thu, 9 Jun 2022 14:22 UTC

SH <i.love@spam.com> wrote:
> I have a VW Golf Estate owned from new in 2016 and on its original set
> of front and rear brake pads.
>
> Its an 6 spd DSG auto box & diesel blue motion and with an electronic
> parking brake with all teh usual stuff like ABS, ESP, and adaptive
> cruise control.
>
> the rear pads are much closer to their wear limit than the front pads.
> Is this normal or usual?
>
> I had thougth the fronts wear quicker than rears, which is certainly
> true for the tyres on it.....
>
> The car has done 55,900 miiles.
>
> Most garages are only quoting for front and rear pad replacement.
>
> So will the current discs last till the next pad change at circa 110k
> and still be above their minimum thickness?
>
> I am led to believe that if the discs are replaced due to being too
> thin, the pads should also be replaced as well. So what is a reasonable
> mileage to expect from a set of discs?
>
> So Should I have the discs replaced while the wheels are off the car and
> during the pad change or leave the discs well alone?
>

I had this on my CRV some years ago. I was told it was common due to muck
etc and corrosion.

The front pads were still fine.

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 by: Dave Plowman (News) - Thu, 9 Jun 2022 14:58 UTC

I used to reckon on two sets of pads to one of discs.

But measure the thickness of the discs. Some have that minimum stamped on
them.

In article <t7qreu$son$1@dont-email.me>,
SH <i.love@spam.com> wrote:
> I have a VW Golf Estate owned from new in 2016 and on its original set
> of front and rear brake pads.

> Its an 6 spd DSG auto box & diesel blue motion and with an electronic
> parking brake with all teh usual stuff like ABS, ESP, and adaptive
> cruise control.

> the rear pads are much closer to their wear limit than the front pads.
> Is this normal or usual?

> I had thougth the fronts wear quicker than rears, which is certainly
> true for the tyres on it.....

> The car has done 55,900 miiles.

> Most garages are only quoting for front and rear pad replacement.

> So will the current discs last till the next pad change at circa 110k
> and still be above their minimum thickness?

> I am led to believe that if the discs are replaced due to being too
> thin, the pads should also be replaced as well. So what is a reasonable
> mileage to expect from a set of discs?

> So Should I have the discs replaced while the wheels are off the car and
> during the pad change or leave the discs well alone?

--
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Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
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 by: Mark - Wed, 15 Jun 2022 16:00 UTC

"SH" <i.love@spam.com> wrote in message news:t7qreu$son$1@dont-email.me...
>I have a VW Golf Estate owned from new in 2016 and on its original set of
>front and rear brake pads.
>
> and with an electronic parking brake
> >

does that work on the rear Pads?

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 by: SH - Wed, 15 Jun 2022 16:14 UTC

On 15/06/2022 17:00, Mark wrote:
> "SH" <i.love@spam.com> wrote in message news:t7qreu$son$1@dont-email.me...
>> I have a VW Golf Estate owned from new in 2016 and on its original set of
>> front and rear brake pads.
>>
>> and with an electronic parking brake
>>>
>
> does that work on the rear Pads?
>
> --
>
>
>

yes it does, and when it breaks, it results in an eye watering garage
bill of over £1,000 on a previous Passatt.

Whats wrong with a bit of steel wire and plastic outer sheathed spring?

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