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* Mac drive letters?Commander Kinsey
+* Mac drive letters?nospam
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   ||   |      | |   `* Mac drive letters?whisky-dave
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   ||   |      | |     |   | +* Mac drive letters?TimS
   ||   |      | |     |   | |`* Mac drive letters?Commander Kinsey
   ||   |      | |     |   | | `* Mac drive letters?whisky-dave
   ||   |      | |     |   | |  `* Mac drive letters?Commander Kinsey
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   ||   |      | |     |   | |    `* Mac drive letters?Commander Kinsey
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Re: Mac drive letters?

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 by: Commander Kinsey - Thu, 24 Feb 2022 23:52 UTC

On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 23:16:11 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Feb 20, 2022 at 3:33:56 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.1hwuautymvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 19:00:55 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Feb 20, 2022 at 8:21:46 AM MST, "Chris" wrote <sutmaa$e75$1@dont-email.me>:
>>>
>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>> I mainly use PCs and thought, how do Mac users manage without drive letters?
>>>>
>>>> Easily.
>>>>
>>>>> How do you enter a path for example? How can a program refer to a file
>>>>> if there's no letter?
>>>>
>>>> It's a UNIX system so all paths are relative to root '/'. Once you get used
>>>> to a unified system, drive letters make no sense.
>>>
>>> Add to that on macOS you can move and rename files even when they are open.
>>
>> All paths relative to root?
>
> Absolute paths are. You can also have relative paths.

Talk about complicating matters. This shit belongs in linux.

>> How fucking stupid. If it's on another drive it should start differently. You
>> know, like differentiating between your kitchen and mine. You start with what
>> house it's in.
>
> If things are in my user folder the reference is just ~/whatever

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In article <op.1h4clsdamvhs6z@ryzen.lan>, Commander Kinsey
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

> >>>>> How do you enter a path for example? How can a program refer to a file
> >>>>> if there's no letter?
> >>>>
> >>>> It's a UNIX system so all paths are relative to root '/'. Once you get
> >>>> used to a unified system, drive letters make no sense.
> >>>
> >>> Add to that on macOS you can move and rename files even when they are
> >>> open.
> >>
> >> All paths relative to root?
> >
> > Absolute paths are. You can also have relative paths.
>
> Talk about complicating matters. This shit belongs in linux.

absolute and relative paths are not complicated, and actually simplify
things quite a bit.

mac os is built upon bsd unix so its paths are basically the same as
with linux, but unlike linux, there are additional ways to identify a
file than by using paths, which are very primitive and very limiting.

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On Feb 24, 2022 at 4:52:30 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.1h4clsdamvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

> On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 23:16:11 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Feb 20, 2022 at 3:33:56 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.1hwuautymvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>> On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 19:00:55 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Feb 20, 2022 at 8:21:46 AM MST, "Chris" wrote <sutmaa$e75$1@dont-email.me>:
>>>>
>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I mainly use PCs and thought, how do Mac users manage without drive letters?
>>>>>
>>>>> Easily.
>>>>>
>>>>>> How do you enter a path for example? How can a program refer to a file
>>>>>> if there's no letter?
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a UNIX system so all paths are relative to root '/'. Once you get used
>>>>> to a unified system, drive letters make no sense.
>>>>
>>>> Add to that on macOS you can move and rename files even when they are open.
>>>
>>> All paths relative to root?
>>
>> Absolute paths are. You can also have relative paths.
>
> Talk about complicating matters. This shit belongs in linux.

Makes it easier:

* Go to such and such address
* Go two doors up

Both of those fit with how we do things normally. Which is better depends on
the circumstances.

But, really, for general use when do you use either much?

>
>>> How fucking stupid. If it's on another drive it should start differently. You
>>> know, like differentiating between your kitchen and mine. You start with what
>>> house it's in.
>>
>> If things are in my user folder the reference is just ~/whatever

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 03:11:37 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Feb 24, 2022 at 4:52:30 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.1h4clsdamvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 23:16:11 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Feb 20, 2022 at 3:33:56 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.1hwuautymvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 19:00:55 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 20, 2022 at 8:21:46 AM MST, "Chris" wrote <sutmaa$e75$1@dont-email.me>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> I mainly use PCs and thought, how do Mac users manage without drive letters?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Easily.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How do you enter a path for example? How can a program refer to a file
>>>>>>> if there's no letter?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's a UNIX system so all paths are relative to root '/'. Once you get used
>>>>>> to a unified system, drive letters make no sense.
>>>>>
>>>>> Add to that on macOS you can move and rename files even when they are open.
>>>>
>>>> All paths relative to root?
>>>
>>> Absolute paths are. You can also have relative paths.
>>
>> Talk about complicating matters. This shit belongs in linux.
>
> Makes it easier:
>
> * Go to such and such address
> * Go two doors up
>
> Both of those fit with how we do things normally. Which is better depends on
> the circumstances.

How is this showing the mac way is better?

> But, really, for general use when do you use either much?

Every day, many times.

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On Feb 26, 2022 at 1:52:11 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.1h7tk90xmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

> On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 03:11:37 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Feb 24, 2022 at 4:52:30 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.1h4clsdamvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>> On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 23:16:11 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Feb 20, 2022 at 3:33:56 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>> <op.1hwuautymvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 19:00:55 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2022 at 8:21:46 AM MST, "Chris" wrote <sutmaa$e75$1@dont-email.me>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I mainly use PCs and thought, how do Mac users manage without drive letters?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Easily.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How do you enter a path for example? How can a program refer to a file
>>>>>>>> if there's no letter?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's a UNIX system so all paths are relative to root '/'. Once you get used
>>>>>>> to a unified system, drive letters make no sense.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Add to that on macOS you can move and rename files even when they are open.
>>>>>
>>>>> All paths relative to root?
>>>>
>>>> Absolute paths are. You can also have relative paths.
>>>
>>> Talk about complicating matters. This shit belongs in linux.
>>
>> Makes it easier:
>>
>> * Go to such and such address
>> * Go two doors up
>>
>> Both of those fit with how we do things normally. Which is better depends on
>> the circumstances.
>
> How is this showing the mac way is better?

Given how Windows also uses absolute and relative paths, what makes you think
it is different?

>
>> But, really, for general use when do you use either much?
>
> Every day, many times.

Example?

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On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 03:03:34 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Feb 26, 2022 at 1:52:11 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.1h7tk90xmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 03:11:37 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Feb 24, 2022 at 4:52:30 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.1h4clsdamvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 23:16:11 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 20, 2022 at 3:33:56 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>> <op.1hwuautymvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 19:00:55 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2022 at 8:21:46 AM MST, "Chris" wrote <sutmaa$e75$1@dont-email.me>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I mainly use PCs and thought, how do Mac users manage without drive letters?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Easily.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How do you enter a path for example? How can a program refer to a file
>>>>>>>>> if there's no letter?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's a UNIX system so all paths are relative to root '/'. Once you get used
>>>>>>>> to a unified system, drive letters make no sense.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Add to that on macOS you can move and rename files even when they are open.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All paths relative to root?
>>>>>
>>>>> Absolute paths are. You can also have relative paths.
>>>>
>>>> Talk about complicating matters. This shit belongs in linux.
>>>
>>> Makes it easier:
>>>
>>> * Go to such and such address
>>> * Go two doors up
>>>
>>> Both of those fit with how we do things normally. Which is better depends on
>>> the circumstances.
>>
>> How is this showing the mac way is better?
>
> Given how Windows also uses absolute and relative paths, what makes you think
> it is different?

The extra garbage on the beginning of yours. The simplest example: a file in the root directory if the main drive. c:\file.txt And on a mac?

>>> But, really, for general use when do you use either much?
>>
>> Every day, many times.
>
> Example?

When installing a program and seeing where it's going. When referring to a file in a program. When saving a file.

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On Feb 26, 2022 at 11:30:02 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.1h8kccp3mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

> On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 03:03:34 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Feb 26, 2022 at 1:52:11 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.1h7tk90xmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>> On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 03:11:37 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Feb 24, 2022 at 4:52:30 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>> <op.1h4clsdamvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 23:16:11 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2022 at 3:33:56 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>> <op.1hwuautymvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 19:00:55 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2022 at 8:21:46 AM MST, "Chris" wrote <sutmaa$e75$1@dont-email.me>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I mainly use PCs and thought, how do Mac users manage without drive letters?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Easily.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How do you enter a path for example? How can a program refer to a file
>>>>>>>>>> if there's no letter?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's a UNIX system so all paths are relative to root '/'. Once you get used
>>>>>>>>> to a unified system, drive letters make no sense.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Add to that on macOS you can move and rename files even when they are open.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All paths relative to root?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Absolute paths are. You can also have relative paths.
>>>>>
>>>>> Talk about complicating matters. This shit belongs in linux.
>>>>
>>>> Makes it easier:
>>>>
>>>> * Go to such and such address
>>>> * Go two doors up
>>>>
>>>> Both of those fit with how we do things normally. Which is better depends on
>>>> the circumstances.
>>>
>>> How is this showing the mac way is better?
>>
>> Given how Windows also uses absolute and relative paths, what makes you think
>> it is different?
>
> The extra garbage on the beginning of yours. The simplest example: a file in
> the root directory if the main drive. c:\file.txt And on a mac?

Why would you save something on the root? Save it in your User folder. But
when do you refer to it like that? I generally just say a file in the
Documents folder or whatever.

>
>>>> But, really, for general use when do you use either much?
>>>
>>> Every day, many times.
>>
>> Example?
>
> When installing a program and seeing where it's going. When referring to a
> file in a program. When saving a file.

When I install a program I put it either in the Applications folder or the
desktop. No need to give more of a path. When I look at a file in an app I
either navigate to it in the Open dialog (visual) or use the Open Recent
options. And with Open Recent most apps keep track even if I have moved and
renamed the file. Windows does not generally do that.

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In article <op.1h8kccp3mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>, Commander Kinsey
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

> > Given how Windows also uses absolute and relative paths, what makes you
> > think
> > it is different?
>
> The extra garbage on the beginning of yours. The simplest example: a file in
> the root directory if the main drive. c:\file.txt And on a mac?

/file.txt

even less garbage.

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On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 03:03:34 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Feb 26, 2022 at 1:52:11 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.1h7tk90xmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 03:11:37 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Feb 24, 2022 at 4:52:30 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.1h4clsdamvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 23:16:11 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 20, 2022 at 3:33:56 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>> <op.1hwuautymvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 19:00:55 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2022 at 8:21:46 AM MST, "Chris" wrote <sutmaa$e75$1@dont-email.me>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I mainly use PCs and thought, how do Mac users manage without drive letters?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Easily.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How do you enter a path for example? How can a program refer to a file
>>>>>>>>> if there's no letter?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's a UNIX system so all paths are relative to root '/'. Once you get used
>>>>>>>> to a unified system, drive letters make no sense.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Add to that on macOS you can move and rename files even when they are open.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All paths relative to root?
>>>>>
>>>>> Absolute paths are. You can also have relative paths.
>>>>
>>>> Talk about complicating matters. This shit belongs in linux.
>>>
>>> Makes it easier:
>>>
>>> * Go to such and such address
>>> * Go two doors up
>>>
>>> Both of those fit with how we do things normally. Which is better depends on
>>> the circumstances.
>>
>> How is this showing the mac way is better?
>
> Given how Windows also uses absolute and relative paths, what makes you think
> it is different?

I've just plugged in 6 USB sticks, all with the same name "USB drive". They're called E:, F:, G:, H:, I:, J:. How would this work on a mac?

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In article <op.1iekbzqymvhs6z@ryzen.lan>, Commander Kinsey
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

> I've just plugged in 6 USB sticks, all with the same name "USB drive".
> They're called E:, F:, G:, H:, I:, J:. How would this work on a mac?

easily. computers are smart. at least, macs are.

back in the floppy disk days, it was common to have multiple floppies,
all named 'untitled', and the mac kept track which was which. if the
wrong one was in the drive, the mac would eject it and ask for the
correct one.

dos and windows can't differentiate floppy disks. a: was whatever
floppy disk is in the drive at the time. if it was the wrong floppy,
the system overwrote whatever data is on it, thereby corrupting it in
the process.

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On Mar 2, 2022 at 5:15:25 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.1iekbzqymvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

> On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 03:03:34 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Feb 26, 2022 at 1:52:11 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.1h7tk90xmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>> On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 03:11:37 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Feb 24, 2022 at 4:52:30 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>> <op.1h4clsdamvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 23:16:11 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2022 at 3:33:56 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>> <op.1hwuautymvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 19:00:55 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2022 at 8:21:46 AM MST, "Chris" wrote <sutmaa$e75$1@dont-email.me>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I mainly use PCs and thought, how do Mac users manage without drive letters?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Easily.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How do you enter a path for example? How can a program refer to a file
>>>>>>>>>> if there's no letter?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's a UNIX system so all paths are relative to root '/'. Once you get used
>>>>>>>>> to a unified system, drive letters make no sense.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Add to that on macOS you can move and rename files even when they are open.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All paths relative to root?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Absolute paths are. You can also have relative paths.
>>>>>
>>>>> Talk about complicating matters. This shit belongs in linux.
>>>>
>>>> Makes it easier:
>>>>
>>>> * Go to such and such address
>>>> * Go two doors up
>>>>
>>>> Both of those fit with how we do things normally. Which is better depends on
>>>> the circumstances.
>>>
>>> How is this showing the mac way is better?
>>
>> Given how Windows also uses absolute and relative paths, what makes you think
>> it is different?
>
> I've just plugged in 6 USB sticks, all with the same name "USB drive".
> They're called E:, F:, G:, H:, I:, J:. How would this work on a mac?

I think the first one would be labeled "USB Drive", next one "USB Drive 1",
then "USB Drive 2", etc. Much better to not have the same names -- that way
you do not have to track the numbers or the letters.

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On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 08:20:12 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Feb 26, 2022 at 11:30:02 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.1h8kccp3mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>> On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 03:03:34 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Feb 26, 2022 at 1:52:11 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>> <op.1h7tk90xmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 03:11:37 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 24, 2022 at 4:52:30 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>> <op.1h4clsdamvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 23:16:11 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2022 at 3:33:56 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>>>>>>> <op.1hwuautymvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 19:00:55 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2022 at 8:21:46 AM MST, "Chris" wrote <sutmaa$e75$1@dont-email.me>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I mainly use PCs and thought, how do Mac users manage without drive letters?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Easily.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How do you enter a path for example? How can a program refer to a file
>>>>>>>>>>> if there's no letter?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's a UNIX system so all paths are relative to root '/'. Once you get used
>>>>>>>>>> to a unified system, drive letters make no sense.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Add to that on macOS you can move and rename files even when they are open.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All paths relative to root?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Absolute paths are. You can also have relative paths.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Talk about complicating matters. This shit belongs in linux.
>>>>>
>>>>> Makes it easier:
>>>>>
>>>>> * Go to such and such address
>>>>> * Go two doors up
>>>>>
>>>>> Both of those fit with how we do things normally. Which is better depends on
>>>>> the circumstances.
>>>>
>>>> How is this showing the mac way is better?
>>>
>>> Given how Windows also uses absolute and relative paths, what makes you think
>>> it is different?
>>
>> The extra garbage on the beginning of yours. The simplest example: a file in
>> the root directory if the main drive. c:\file.txt And on a mac?
>
> Why would you save something on the root?

For quickness, but that's irrelevant, I showed you the shortest example to make a point.

> Save it in your User folder.

What's the obsession with a user folder? I save things in folder in the root like c:\pictures, c:\videos.

> But when do you refer to it like that? I generally just say a file in the
> Documents folder or whatever.

I don't think even a mac would respond to "a file in the documents folder". Maybe an Alexa.

>>>>> But, really, for general use when do you use either much?
>>>>
>>>> Every day, many times.
>>>
>>> Example?
>>
>> When installing a program and seeing where it's going. When referring to a
>> file in a program. When saving a file.
>
> When I install a program I put it either in the Applications folder or the
> desktop.

ROPL! You install programs to the desktop.

> No need to give more of a path.

Kinda helps to give each application it's own folder.

> When I look at a file in an app I
> either navigate to it in the Open dialog (visual) or use the Open Recent
> options. And with Open Recent most apps keep track even if I have moved and
> renamed the file. Windows does not generally do that.

I like to know what drive it's on. So what do you do if two drives are named the same?

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On Mar 3, 2022 at 3:41:32 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.1ig7zixvmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

>>>>>>
>>>>>> Makes it easier:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Go to such and such address
>>>>>> * Go two doors up
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Both of those fit with how we do things normally. Which is better depends on
>>>>>> the circumstances.
>>>>>
>>>>> How is this showing the mac way is better?
>>>>
>>>> Given how Windows also uses absolute and relative paths, what makes you think
>>>> it is different?
>>>
>>> The extra garbage on the beginning of yours. The simplest example: a file in
>>> the root directory if the main drive. c:\file.txt And on a mac?
>>
>> Why would you save something on the root?
>
> For quickness, but that's irrelevant, I showed you the shortest example to
> make a point.

It still makes no sense to save to root. But it is even easier on macOS:

\file.txt

No need for silly drive letters.

You *might* have made a point had you selected some other drive. :)

>> Save it in your User folder.
>
> What's the obsession with a user folder?

What makes you see "obsession" in understanding that user files are in the
user folder?

> I save things in folder in the root like c:\pictures, c:\videos.
>
>> But when do you refer to it like that? I generally just say a file in the
>> Documents folder or whatever.
>
> I don't think even a mac would respond to "a file in the documents folder".
> Maybe an Alexa.

I have no issue saving files in the Documents folder.

>
>>>>>> But, really, for general use when do you use either much?
>>>>>
>>>>> Every day, many times.
>>>>
>>>> Example?
>>>
>>> When installing a program and seeing where it's going. When referring to a
>>> file in a program. When saving a file.
>>
>> When I install a program I put it either in the Applications folder or the
>> desktop.
>
> ROPL! You install programs to the desktop.

Yes. I download them and fiddle with them there. Then I decide to keep or
toss. Having a quick temporary storage is a key use of the desktop.

>> No need to give more of a path.
>
> Kinda helps to give each application it's own folder.

On macOS each app is almost always just one icon. It is, technically, a
folder, but it is easy to move around. More recent versions of macOS do offer
more benefits for putting apps in the Applications folder.

>
>> When I look at a file in an app I
>> either navigate to it in the Open dialog (visual) or use the Open Recent
>> options. And with Open Recent most apps keep track even if I have moved and
>> renamed the file. Windows does not generally do that.
>
> I like to know what drive it's on. So what do you do if two drives are named
> the same?

If there are multiple ones it shows the folder it is in.

Say you have an MS Word (or whatever) file open on Windows. You opened it from
Recent Files and it is buried deep. How do you find where it is? How do you
move it? How do you rename it?

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In article <qhfUJ.48804$Mpg8.44098@fx34.iad>, Snit
<brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> >>> The extra garbage on the beginning of yours. The simplest example: a file
> >>> in the root directory if the main drive. c:\file.txt And on a mac?
> >>
> >> Why would you save something on the root?
> >
> > For quickness, but that's irrelevant, I showed you the shortest example to
> > make a point.
>
> It still makes no sense to save to root. But it is even easier on macOS:
>
> \file.txt

forward slash on macos and other unix systems:

/file.txt

except that won't work on recent versions of mac os because only root
can write to / for security.

older versions of mac os x did allow that, with / becoming read-only at
some point, roughly 10-15 years ago.

> No need for silly drive letters.

yep.

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On Mar 3, 2022 at 10:00:21 PM MST, "nospam" wrote
<040320220000212826%nospam@nospam.invalid>:

> In article <qhfUJ.48804$Mpg8.44098@fx34.iad>, Snit
> <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> The extra garbage on the beginning of yours. The simplest example: a file
>>>>> in the root directory if the main drive. c:\file.txt And on a mac?
>>>>
>>>> Why would you save something on the root?
>>>
>>> For quickness, but that's irrelevant, I showed you the shortest example to
>>> make a point.
>>
>> It still makes no sense to save to root. But it is even easier on macOS:
>>
>> \file.txt
>
> forward slash on macos and other unix systems:
>
> /file.txt

Yes. My error (and I know better).

> except that won't work on recent versions of mac os because only root
> can write to / for security.

Right. But it was how to reference it... I could have been more clear.

>
> older versions of mac os x did allow that, with / becoming read-only at
> some point, roughly 10-15 years ago.

Agreed.

>
>> No need for silly drive letters.
>
> yep.

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On Fri, 04 Mar 2022 03:00:38 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mar 3, 2022 at 3:41:32 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
> <op.1ig7zixvmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Makes it easier:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Go to such and such address
>>>>>>> * Go two doors up
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Both of those fit with how we do things normally. Which is better depends on
>>>>>>> the circumstances.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How is this showing the mac way is better?
>>>>>
>>>>> Given how Windows also uses absolute and relative paths, what makes you think
>>>>> it is different?
>>>>
>>>> The extra garbage on the beginning of yours. The simplest example: a file in
>>>> the root directory if the main drive. c:\file.txt And on a mac?
>>>
>>> Why would you save something on the root?
>>
>> For quickness, but that's irrelevant, I showed you the shortest example to
>> make a point.
>
> It still makes no sense to save to root. But it is even easier on macOS:
>
> \file.txt
>
> No need for silly drive letters.

Which drive is that the root of?

> You *might* have made a point had you selected some other drive. :)
>
>>> Save it in your User folder.
>>
>> What's the obsession with a user folder?
>
> What makes you see "obsession" in understanding that user files are in the
> user folder?

I own the computer, all the files are mine.

>> I save things in folder in the root like c:\pictures, c:\videos.
>>
>>> But when do you refer to it like that? I generally just say a file in the
>>> Documents folder or whatever.
>>
>> I don't think even a mac would respond to "a file in the documents folder".
>> Maybe an Alexa.
>
> I have no issue saving files in the Documents folder.

Why use the setup the OS writer chose? I'll decide what array to organise my folders in, depending if I'm a photographer, music fan, etc.

>>>>>>> But, really, for general use when do you use either much?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Every day, many times.
>>>>>
>>>>> Example?
>>>>
>>>> When installing a program and seeing where it's going. When referring to a
>>>> file in a program. When saving a file.
>>>
>>> When I install a program I put it either in the Applications folder or the
>>> desktop.
>>
>> ROPL! You install programs to the desktop.
>
> Yes. I download them and fiddle with them there. Then I decide to keep or
> toss. Having a quick temporary storage is a key use of the desktop.
>
>>> No need to give more of a path.
>>
>> Kinda helps to give each application it's own folder.
>
> On macOS each app is almost always just one icon. It is, technically, a
> folder, but it is easy to move around. More recent versions of macOS do offer
> more benefits for putting apps in the Applications folder.

So you think you're looking at a file but it's a folder, how confusing. What happens if you double click one?

>>> When I look at a file in an app I
>>> either navigate to it in the Open dialog (visual) or use the Open Recent
>>> options. And with Open Recent most apps keep track even if I have moved and
>>> renamed the file. Windows does not generally do that.
>>
>> I like to know what drive it's on. So what do you do if two drives are named
>> the same?
>
> If there are multiple ones it shows the folder it is in.

Let's say I plug in two USB sticks and they're both called "USB Stick". They both contain the same files exactly, I back them up from one to the other, or I'm putting the same files on several to give photos to some family and friends. On a PC, one is called F: and the other G:. ON a mac they're both called USB Drive. How do you differentiate between the two? How does the OS?

> Say you have an MS Word (or whatever) file open on Windows. You opened it from
> Recent Files and it is buried deep. How do you find where it is? How do you
> move it? How do you rename it?

You have it open, you save it, it will tell you where it's going.

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In article <op.1ii0k5qsmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>, Commander Kinsey
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

> >
> > It still makes no sense to save to root. But it is even easier on macOS:
> >
> > \file.txt
> >
> > No need for silly drive letters.
>
> Which drive is that the root of?

boot drive.

>
> Let's say I plug in two USB sticks and they're both called "USB Stick". They
> both contain the same files exactly, I back them up from one to the other, or
> I'm putting the same files on several to give photos to some family and
> friends. On a PC, one is called F: and the other G:. ON a mac they're both
> called USB Drive. How do you differentiate between the two? How does the
> OS?

guid.

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 by: Snit - Sat, 5 Mar 2022 00:27 UTC

On Mar 4, 2022 at 2:56:55 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
<op.1ii0k5qsmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

> On Fri, 04 Mar 2022 03:00:38 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mar 3, 2022 at 3:41:32 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.1ig7zixvmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Makes it easier:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Go to such and such address
>>>>>>>> * Go two doors up
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Both of those fit with how we do things normally. Which is better depends on
>>>>>>>> the circumstances.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How is this showing the mac way is better?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Given how Windows also uses absolute and relative paths, what makes you think
>>>>>> it is different?
>>>>>
>>>>> The extra garbage on the beginning of yours. The simplest example: a file in
>>>>> the root directory if the main drive. c:\file.txt And on a mac?
>>>>
>>>> Why would you save something on the root?
>>>
>>> For quickness, but that's irrelevant, I showed you the shortest example to
>>> make a point.
>>
>> It still makes no sense to save to root. But it is even easier on macOS:
>>
>> \file.txt
>>
>> No need for silly drive letters.
>
> Which drive is that the root of?

The boot drive.

I did goof, though. It should be: /file.txt

As I said, I almost never have to type such stuff. No real need for general
use.

>
>> You *might* have made a point had you selected some other drive. :)
>>
>>>> Save it in your User folder.
>>>
>>> What's the obsession with a user folder?
>>
>> What makes you see "obsession" in understanding that user files are in the
>> user folder?
>
> I own the computer, all the files are mine.

True, but it makes sense to have an organization where your user files are in
a user folder... doing this is part of security. It is part of the reason
macOS tends to have less malware.

>
>>> I save things in folder in the root like c:\pictures, c:\videos.
>>>
>>>> But when do you refer to it like that? I generally just say a file in the
>>>> Documents folder or whatever.
>>>
>>> I don't think even a mac would respond to "a file in the documents folder".
>>> Maybe an Alexa.
>>
>> I have no issue saving files in the Documents folder.
>
> Why use the setup the OS writer chose? I'll decide what array to organise my
> folders in, depending if I'm a photographer, music fan, etc.

You can also save things to the Pictures or Music folders... which are
defaults, or any other folder you want.
>
>>>>>>>> But, really, for general use when do you use either much?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Every day, many times.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Example?
>>>>>
>>>>> When installing a program and seeing where it's going. When referring to a
>>>>> file in a program. When saving a file.
>>>>
>>>> When I install a program I put it either in the Applications folder or the
>>>> desktop.
>>>
>>> ROPL! You install programs to the desktop.
>>
>> Yes. I download them and fiddle with them there. Then I decide to keep or
>> toss. Having a quick temporary storage is a key use of the desktop.
>>
>>>> No need to give more of a path.
>>>
>>> Kinda helps to give each application it's own folder.
>>
>> On macOS each app is almost always just one icon. It is, technically, a
>> folder, but it is easy to move around. More recent versions of macOS do offer
>> more benefits for putting apps in the Applications folder.
>
> So you think you're looking at a file but it's a folder, how confusing.

You are looking at an application icon. And it works fine.

> What happens if you double click one?

If you double click on an application icon the application opens. Of course.
What else would you expect?

>
>>>> When I look at a file in an app I
>>>> either navigate to it in the Open dialog (visual) or use the Open Recent
>>>> options. And with Open Recent most apps keep track even if I have moved and
>>>> renamed the file. Windows does not generally do that.
>>>
>>> I like to know what drive it's on. So what do you do if two drives are named
>>> the same?
>>
>> If there are multiple ones it shows the folder it is in.
>
> Let's say I plug in two USB sticks and they're both called "USB Stick". They
> both contain the same files exactly, I back them up from one to the other, or
> I'm putting the same files on several to give photos to some family and
> friends. On a PC, one is called F: and the other G:. ON a mac they're both
> called USB Drive. How do you differentiate between the two? How does the OS?

The OS shows "USB Stick" and "USB Stick 1" (I think). The OS has built in IDs
in he background to know what disk is what (and can use the "user" names).

>> Say you have an MS Word (or whatever) file open on Windows. You opened it from
>> Recent Files and it is buried deep. How do you find where it is? How do you
>> move it? How do you rename it?
>
> You have it open, you save it, it will tell you where it's going.

And if you want to move or rename it? Or if you have file A.doc open and you
want to get to B.doc which you know is in the same folder, buried several
folders deep?

To be more specific: You have ~/Companies/Company A/Client A/Project
A/2021/A.docx open. How do you get to ~/Companies/Company A/Client A/Project
A/2021/B.docx quickly?

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In article <B7yUJ.69886$OT%7.65644@fx07.iad>, Snit
<brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Let's say I plug in two USB sticks and they're both called "USB Stick". They
> > both contain the same files exactly, I back them up from one to the other,
> > or
> > I'm putting the same files on several to give photos to some family and
> > friends. On a PC, one is called F: and the other G:. ON a mac they're both
> > called USB Drive. How do you differentiate between the two? How does the OS?
>
> The OS shows "USB Stick" and "USB Stick 1" (I think). The OS has built in IDs
> in he background to know what disk is what (and can use the "user" names).

finder will show the actual volume name, regardless if there is more
than one with the same name, in this case, 'usb stick'.

usb sticks, external hard drives, network shares, etc. are normally
mounted in /Volumes and must have a unique name so that the pathname is
unambiguous. if there are two volumes with the same name, then a number
is appended (usb stick, usb stick 1, usb stick 2, etc.) unless one of
them is mounted elsewhere (which an app or script might do).

mac os will differentiate the volumes by guid and doesn't care what the
volume name or mount point happens to be.

this also applies to other devices, notably iphones, ipads and ipods,
which can have the same name (usually after restoring an older device
to a newer device), yet tracked separately by both mac and windows.

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On Mar 4, 2022 at 9:14:05 PM MST, "nospam" wrote
<040320222314052336%nospam@nospam.invalid>:

> In article <B7yUJ.69886$OT%7.65644@fx07.iad>, Snit
> <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Let's say I plug in two USB sticks and they're both called "USB Stick". They
>>> both contain the same files exactly, I back them up from one to the other,
>>> or
>>> I'm putting the same files on several to give photos to some family and
>>> friends. On a PC, one is called F: and the other G:. ON a mac they're both
>>> called USB Drive. How do you differentiate between the two? How does the OS?
>>
>> The OS shows "USB Stick" and "USB Stick 1" (I think). The OS has built in IDs
>> in he background to know what disk is what (and can use the "user" names).
>
> finder will show the actual volume name, regardless if there is more
> than one with the same name, in this case, 'usb stick'.

So multiple ones with the same name? I thought it differentiated -- but have
not tested in a while. I very well could be wrong.

> usb sticks, external hard drives, network shares, etc. are normally
> mounted in /Volumes and must have a unique name so that the pathname is
> unambiguous. if there are two volumes with the same name, then a number
> is appended (usb stick, usb stick 1, usb stick 2, etc.) unless one of
> them is mounted elsewhere (which an app or script might do).

But the Finder shows them with the same name?

> mac os will differentiate the volumes by guid and doesn't care what the
> volume name or mount point happens to be.

Agreed. That is the ID I was speaking of. I think HFS+ used something other
than an GUID... or maybe APFS does. Been a while since I looked into this
stuff or had any need to know it.

> this also applies to other devices, notably iphones, ipads and ipods,
> which can have the same name (usually after restoring an older device
> to a newer device), yet tracked separately by both mac and windows.

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nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <op.1h8kccp3mvhs6z@ryzen.lan>, Commander Kinsey
> <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>> Given how Windows also uses absolute and relative paths, what makes you
>>> think
>>> it is different?
>>
>> The extra garbage on the beginning of yours. The simplest example: a file in
>> the root directory if the main drive. c:\file.txt And on a mac?
>
> /file.txt
>
> even less garbage.

Even saving it to your user folder is easier: ~/file.txt

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Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Mar 2022 03:00:38 -0000, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mar 3, 2022 at 3:41:32 PM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
>> <op.1ig7zixvmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:
>>
>
> Let's say I plug in two USB sticks and they're both called "USB Stick".
> They both contain the same files exactly, I back them up from one to the
> other, or I'm putting the same files on several to give photos to some
> family and friends. On a PC, one is called F: and the other G:. ON a
> mac they're both called USB Drive. How do you differentiate between the
> two? How does the OS?
>

The OS is well able to manage it's files, folders and devices without any
assistance from you.

As for you, why not do the obvious and rename them e.g. USB Stick A and USB
Stick B? Takes less time than it took me to give you this excellent advice.

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In article <yuBUJ.56107$oF2.53789@fx10.iad>, Snit
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> >>
> >> The OS shows "USB Stick" and "USB Stick 1" (I think). The OS has built in
> >> IDs
> >> in he background to know what disk is what (and can use the "user" names).
> >
> > finder will show the actual volume name, regardless if there is more
> > than one with the same name, in this case, 'usb stick'.
>
> So multiple ones with the same name? I thought it differentiated -- but have
> not tested in a while. I very well could be wrong.

the drive names on the desktop in finder are not changed, which means
there can be multiple drives showing the same name.

the names in /Volumes must be unique, so a number is added if there is
a name collision, and at the unix layer, it's /dev/disk#s#. most people
never look at either one.

in some cases the drive icons are different (e.g., network share versus
usb stick), or if the user adds their own custom icon, but that's not
something that affects how the system references files. it's to help
humans.

finder will also remember the position of the drive icon wherever it is
on the desktop, so putting it in a corner versus on the side is another
way to help differentiate them.

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In article <svvl3b$n3k$1@dont-email.me>, John Hill <yclept@outlook.com>
wrote:

> Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
> > Let's say I plug in two USB sticks and they're both called "USB Stick".
> > They both contain the same files exactly, I back them up from one to the
> > other, or I'm putting the same files on several to give photos to some
> > family and friends. On a PC, one is called F: and the other G:. ON a
> > mac they're both called USB Drive. How do you differentiate between the
> > two? How does the OS?
> >
>
> The OS is well able to manage it's files, folders and devices without any
> assistance from you.

yep.

> As for you, why not do the obvious and rename them e.g. USB Stick A and USB
> Stick B? Takes less time than it took me to give you this excellent advice.

that's not always possible, such as with network shares, or desirable,
if the device must have a particular name.

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From: brock.mc...@gmail.com (Snit)
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Subject: Re: Mac drive letters?
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On Mar 5, 2022 at 7:32:57 AM MST, "nospam" wrote
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> In article <yuBUJ.56107$oF2.53789@fx10.iad>, Snit
> <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> The OS shows "USB Stick" and "USB Stick 1" (I think). The OS has built in
>>>> IDs
>>>> in he background to know what disk is what (and can use the "user" names).
>>>
>>> finder will show the actual volume name, regardless if there is more
>>> than one with the same name, in this case, 'usb stick'.
>>
>> So multiple ones with the same name? I thought it differentiated -- but have
>> not tested in a while. I very well could be wrong.
>
> the drive names on the desktop in finder are not changed, which means
> there can be multiple drives showing the same name.

Thanks. Might double check later.

>
> the names in /Volumes must be unique, so a number is added if there is
> a name collision, and at the unix layer, it's /dev/disk#s#. most people
> never look at either one.
>
> in some cases the drive icons are different (e.g., network share versus
> usb stick), or if the user adds their own custom icon, but that's not
> something that affects how the system references files. it's to help
> humans.
>
> finder will also remember the position of the drive icon wherever it is
> on the desktop, so putting it in a corner versus on the side is another
> way to help differentiate them.

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