Re: OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes

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OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Recliner
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Sam Wilson
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Certes
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Recliner
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Peter Able
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Roland Perry
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Recliner
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Roland Perry
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Recliner
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	ColinR
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Chris J Dixon
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Recliner
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	JMB99
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Recliner
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Roland Perry
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Recliner
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Roland Perry
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Sam Wilson
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Mark Goodge
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Recliner
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Roland Perry
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Roland Perry
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Theo
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Roland Perry
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Recliner
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Roland Perry
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Recliner
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Roland Perry
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Theo
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Graeme Wall
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Roland Perry
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Theo
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Roland Perry
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Arthur Figgis
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Bevan Price
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Bob
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Certes
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Recliner
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Arthur Figgis
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Recliner
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Tweed
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Roland Perry
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Rolf Mantel
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Theo
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Sam Wilson
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Muttley
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Theo
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Sam Wilson
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Sam Wilson
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Muttley
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Recliner
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Roland Perry
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Recliner
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Nobody
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Sam Wilson
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Recliner
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Nobody
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Recliner
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Tweed
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Recliner
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Bevan Price
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Recliner
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Tweed
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Recliner
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Recliner
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Tweed
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Recliner
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Recliner
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Nobody
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Nobody
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Recliner
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Nobody
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Sam Wilson
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Recliner
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Recliner
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Recliner
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Recliner
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Nobody
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Recliner
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Nobody
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Sam Wilson
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Roland Perry
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Recliner
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Graeme Wall
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Recliner
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Recliner
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Graeme Wall
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Recliner
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Anna Noyd-Dryver
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Roland Perry
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Sam Wilson
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Recliner
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Muttley
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Roland Perry
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Marland
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	JMB99
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Mike Humphrey
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	JMB99
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Roland Perry
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Roland Perry
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	JMB99
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Recliner
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Marland
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Ken
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Roland Perry
OT: It's good when noble lords pay their taxes	Roland Perry

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by: Recliner - Wed, 27 Sep 2023 06:10 UTC

Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
> Nobody <jock@soccer.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 15:38:41 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
>> <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Nobody <jock@soccer.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 10:03:57 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
>>>> <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Nobody <jock@soccer.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 21:05:15 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
>>>>>>>>> <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody <jock@soccer.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 14 Sep 2023 10:10:14 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
>>>>>>>>>>>> <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In message <uduj37$2ip2f$6@dont-email.me>, at 09:17:27 on Thu, 14 Sep
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2023, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Despite all my expensive foreign holidays that Roland is so jealous of,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the dividends pour in faster than I can spend them, so I now think it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might have been better to retire earlier.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not jealous, because I'm fed up with travelling, and would rather
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stay at home. What bugs me is your incessant bragging about it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't brag about it. I just sometimes mention places, often with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> railway connection, that I've been to...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> And I thank you for those.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <AOL>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And I'll be off on another of those trips next week. It's a cruise, but I'm
>>>>>>>>>> booked to return to two notable mountain railways (one of which failed on
>>>>>>>>>> me last time).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That narrows things down, though two mountain railways within coo-ee
>>>>>>>>> of a single cruise is challenging the geographic brain cells!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here's a strong hint: both lines start at sea level. One peaks at 513m and
>>>>>>>> the other at 866m. Both are electrified and need lots of snow protection.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If Flam one of them?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ofoten Line for the other?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, a one-way trip in the opposite direction to my previous one.
>>>>
>>>> Been there... done both. Westbound Gällivare to Narvik, as a follow-on
>>>> from the Inlandsbanan north from Östersund. And both up and down
>>>> Flåmsbana.
>>>>
>>>> They were part of a organised rail tour of Sweden and Norway.
>>>
>>> Yes, we must have done the same tour at different times.
>>
>> Another relatively sharp loss in elevation by rail in Norway is
>> Raumabana, from Dombås (~650m) to Åndalsnes. It was included in the
>> tour I experienced.
>>
>> And if elevation is the criterion, then the main Bergen-Oslo route
>> reaches at least the same level at the Flåmbaba obviously with the
>> junction at Myrdal.
>>
>
> Well, we've just docked at Narvik, where it's 11° with a 90% chance of rain
> all day. I suspect I won't be getting many good pictures on the railway…

Well, the weather was drier and warmer than forecast. I must say that the
ore trains (68 wagons, 8,600 tonnes, 750m long) are impressive. Our 3-car
EMU wasn't quite on the same scale!

I believe that the ore now goes mainly to Asian steel mills.

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by: Nobody - Wed, 27 Sep 2023 17:45 UTC

On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 06:10:46 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
<recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:

>Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Nobody <jock@soccer.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 15:38:41 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
>>> <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nobody <jock@soccer.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 10:03:57 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
>>>>> <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Nobody <jock@soccer.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 21:05:15 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
>>>>>>>>>> <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody <jock@soccer.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 14 Sep 2023 10:10:14 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In message <uduj37$2ip2f$6@dont-email.me>, at 09:17:27 on Thu, 14 Sep
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2023, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Despite all my expensive foreign holidays that Roland is so jealous of,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the dividends pour in faster than I can spend them, so I now think it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might have been better to retire earlier.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not jealous, because I'm fed up with travelling, and would rather
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stay at home. What bugs me is your incessant bragging about it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't brag about it. I just sometimes mention places, often with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> railway connection, that I've been to...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And I thank you for those.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <AOL>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And I'll be off on another of those trips next week. It's a cruise, but I'm
>>>>>>>>>>> booked to return to two notable mountain railways (one of which failed on
>>>>>>>>>>> me last time).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That narrows things down, though two mountain railways within coo-ee
>>>>>>>>>> of a single cruise is challenging the geographic brain cells!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here's a strong hint: both lines start at sea level. One peaks at 513m and
>>>>>>>>> the other at 866m. Both are electrified and need lots of snow protection.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If Flam one of them?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ofoten Line for the other?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, a one-way trip in the opposite direction to my previous one.
>>>>>
>>>>> Been there... done both. Westbound Gällivare to Narvik, as a follow-on
>>>>> from the Inlandsbanan north from Östersund. And both up and down
>>>>> Flåmsbana.
>>>>>
>>>>> They were part of a organised rail tour of Sweden and Norway.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, we must have done the same tour at different times.
>>>
>>> Another relatively sharp loss in elevation by rail in Norway is
>>> Raumabana, from Dombås (~650m) to Åndalsnes. It was included in the
>>> tour I experienced.
>>>
>>> And if elevation is the criterion, then the main Bergen-Oslo route
>>> reaches at least the same level at the Flåmbaba obviously with the
>>> junction at Myrdal.
>>>
>>
>> Well, we've just docked at Narvik, where it's 11° with a 90% chance of rain
>> all day. I suspect I won't be getting many good pictures on the railway…
>
>Well, the weather was drier and warmer than forecast. I must say that the
>ore trains (68 wagons, 8,600 tonnes, 750m long) are impressive. Our 3-car
>EMU wasn't quite on the same scale!

You suggested back up the thread that the rail portion was timed 90
minutes. From vague memory, it took 45 mins to drop down to Narvik
once Rombaksfjord came into view.

That was on a 'lectric loco-hauled SJ service.

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by: Recliner - Wed, 27 Sep 2023 20:07 UTC

Nobody <jock@soccer.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 06:10:46 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
> <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Nobody <jock@soccer.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 15:38:41 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
>>>> <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Nobody <jock@soccer.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 10:03:57 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
>>>>>> <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Nobody <jock@soccer.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 21:05:15 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
>>>>>>>>>>> <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody <jock@soccer.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 14 Sep 2023 10:10:14 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In message <uduj37$2ip2f$6@dont-email.me>, at 09:17:27 on Thu, 14 Sep
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2023, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Despite all my expensive foreign holidays that Roland is so jealous of,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the dividends pour in faster than I can spend them, so I now think it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might have been better to retire earlier.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not jealous, because I'm fed up with travelling, and would rather
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stay at home. What bugs me is your incessant bragging about it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't brag about it. I just sometimes mention places, often with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> railway connection, that I've been to...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And I thank you for those.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <AOL>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> And I'll be off on another of those trips next week. It's a cruise, but I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>> booked to return to two notable mountain railways (one of which failed on
>>>>>>>>>>>> me last time).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That narrows things down, though two mountain railways within coo-ee
>>>>>>>>>>> of a single cruise is challenging the geographic brain cells!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here's a strong hint: both lines start at sea level. One peaks at 513m and
>>>>>>>>>> the other at 866m. Both are electrified and need lots of snow protection.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If Flam one of them?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ofoten Line for the other?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, a one-way trip in the opposite direction to my previous one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Been there... done both. Westbound Gällivare to Narvik, as a follow-on
>>>>>> from the Inlandsbanan north from Östersund. And both up and down
>>>>>> Flåmsbana.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They were part of a organised rail tour of Sweden and Norway.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, we must have done the same tour at different times.
>>>>
>>>> Another relatively sharp loss in elevation by rail in Norway is
>>>> Raumabana, from Dombås (~650m) to Åndalsnes. It was included in the
>>>> tour I experienced.
>>>>
>>>> And if elevation is the criterion, then the main Bergen-Oslo route
>>>> reaches at least the same level at the Flåmbaba obviously with the
>>>> junction at Myrdal.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well, we've just docked at Narvik, where it's 11° with a 90% chance of rain
>>> all day. I suspect I won't be getting many good pictures on the railway…
>>
>> Well, the weather was drier and warmer than forecast. I must say that the
>> ore trains (68 wagons, 8,600 tonnes, 750m long) are impressive. Our 3-car
>> EMU wasn't quite on the same scale!
>
> You suggested back up the thread that the rail portion was timed 90
> minutes. From vague memory, it took 45 mins to drop down to Narvik
> once Rombaksfjord came into view.
>
> That was on a 'lectric loco-hauled SJ service.
>

Our tourist train stopped for 5-8 mins at every station, so it was a slow
journey.

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