I posted the query below a few days ago on comp.mobile.ipad, where it was met
by a resounding silence. So I wonder if anyone here could tell me why this
setting doesn't work?
______________________________________________
If I go to Settings > Mail on my iPad I find a setting "Most recent message on
top".
But my threads and my emails (in threads or out) are always most recent on
top, no matter how I set the switch.

I'm sure it used to work. It may have broken with a recent iPadOS 14 update
(I'm fully up to date).

Does anyone else see this? Can it be made to work?
______________________________________________

John.

--
God made the integers; all else is the work of man.

John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> I posted the query below a few days ago on comp.mobile.ipad, where it was met
> by a resounding silence. So I wonder if anyone here could tell me why this
> setting doesn't work?
> ______________________________________________
> If I go to Settings > Mail on my iPad I find a setting "Most recent message on
> top".
> But my threads and my emails (in threads or out) are always most recent on
> top, no matter how I set the switch.
>
> I'm sure it used to work. It may have broken with a recent iPadOS 14 update
> (I'm fully up to date).
>
> Does anyone else see this? Can it be made to work?
> ______________________________________________

That’s what I’m finding too.

--
Cheers, Alan

On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 7:56:45 AM UTC-7, John Hill wrote:
> I posted the query below a few days ago on comp.mobile.ipad, where it was met
> by a resounding silence. So I wonder if anyone here could tell me why this
> setting doesn't work?
> ______________________________________________
> If I go to Settings > Mail on my iPad I find a setting "Most recent message on
> top".
> But my threads and my emails (in threads or out) are always most recent on
> top, no matter how I set the switch.
>
> I'm sure it used to work. It may have broken with a recent iPadOS 14 update
> (I'm fully up to date).
>
> Does anyone else see this? Can it be made to work?
> ______________________________________________
>
> John.
>
> --
> God made the integers; all else is the work of man.

Carroll, 4/10/2015 4:04 PM:
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Cute trick... To the guy who hacked my Google account.
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No details. Seems to treat it as a joke.

Carroll, 4/10/2015 5:02 PM, <https://goo.gl/51rsmZ>:
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Email Hacking Is A Serious Crime
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No longer "cute"... now it is a serious crime. OK.

Carroll, 4/10/2015 5:07 PM:
By now he is posting more links to how serious this crime against him
is.

Carroll, 4/10/2015 7:25 PM:
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I didn't write that.
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Now he is denying the posts from his own account. OK, he was "hacked".
Someone else posted this. Hard to hack a gmail account given how they use
two-step authentication and someone would need access to his phone or the
like... but at least POSSIBLE.

Even then, though, if someone tries to guess your password Google alerts
you and lets you know what IP address and other info. I know because someone
in a Denver internet cafe has tried mine on several occasions.

Google even forces you to change your password when this happens. Very
hard to hack these days.

So already Carroll's story is unlikely.

But let us accept it... someone somehow hacked his account bypassing the
two step verification. This person did not, however, change his password
and Carroll posted within an hour of the "hacker". Before that, unless
he is an idiot, he changed his password and the "hacker" was locked out.
The "hacker" got one post in.

But Carroll could not leave his story there.

Carroll, 4/10/2015 8:36 PM, <https://goo.gl/NJ2bMH>:
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Someone hacked my frelwizzen gmail acct so, for the time being,
don't trust anything from it.
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Wait. What? Even after Carroll figured out this "hacker" who was too stupid
to change his password had broken into his account and Carroll *surely*
must have changed his own password, he is saying the "hacker" might still
have access. Might be able to break Google's two-step verification process
*again*.

This is *very* unlikely... to the point of being unbelievable.

Even worse for him: he notes which of his accounts he is claiming was
hacked - but in the past he has denied even using the other accounts! LOL!
He screwed up and made it very clear he has multiple accounts and felt
the need to note which one. He made the same mistake in the next quote
where he speaks of WHICH of his gmail accounts he is claiming was hacked.
Oops! If he only posts with one there would be no need to specify which
one!

He has completely screwed up in his game to pretend he posts with only
one gmail account. Completely idiotic of him, too!

Carroll, 4/10/2015 8:38 PM, <https://goo.gl/YA7gMO>:
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Some mentally deficient child hacked my 'frelwizzen' gmail account
so I may have to kill it. For the time being, don't assume
anything that's coming from it was written by me.
-----
He is still saying that he may have to kill the account instead of just
changing the password which anyone with half a brain would have already
done (and Google *forces* you to do when someone even tries to hack your
account... I know because someone in the Denver area has tried to hack
mine multiple times... likely Carroll but I have no proof of this). And
he specifies WHICH of his accounts! He is directly admitting he uses more
than one account! His claim of being "forged" with his second account is
a lie. Proved.

Carroll, 4/10/2015 8:40 PM, <https://goo.gl/j6yCuV>:
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Looks like it's still being hacked despite me taking precautions,
I may have to kill the account.
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What makes it look like its still being hacked? And what precautions other
than changing the two-step verification options does he need? And how would
someone bypass this... is he really on the NSA watch list? Seems you would
need someone at that level to be doing this. He watches too much TV where
they computer hackers spend thirty seconds and bypass all security.

Just nonsense.

Carroll, 4/11/2015 12:05 PM: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/comp.os.linux.advocacy/5QXJHXq8d1k/ujK_-
8ZYUnwJ
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Apparently Google is having issues with their accounts to the
point where they're ready to undertake some additional measures.
-----
But, of course, no evidence of this... and what measures? They already
alert users if someone else tries to guess your password and use two-step
authentication and even force you to make a new password if it seems someone
is trying to hack you.
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They're now involving several federal agencies in things they
didn't bother with previously in an effort to deal with people who
hack into accounts. They've asked me to leave the account open.
-----
So now Google is letting Carroll know how they are handling these things
- and asking him to leave a *hacked* account open... one someone can be
using to steal his identity. No. This does not pass the sniff test in any
way. Even if they were doing this for some bizarre sting operation, which
is in itself far fetched, they would have told Carroll to not make it public
information so the hacker would not know.

Just insanity. His own story is so idiotic and full of idiotic claims
it simply cannot be true. Carroll uses his secondary Google account - the
one he accesses via Tor and is referred to as his Tor account - to have
plausible deniability for things he says there. Now he is working to do
the same thing with his main account. Maybe Carroll read a report like
this: <http://cnnmon.ie/111QeT8> [money.com]. If so he missed the part
where they note if you are *really* hacked, which is rare, the hackers
change your password and lock you out. Why would they not?
-----
There's some new legislation that will help them deal with this
issue... which probably means more BS for us ;)
-----
Yes, new legislation to make sure Carroll does not have to deal with "hackers"
and "forgers" which do not even exist.

The funny part is, this happened shortly after someone in the Denver area,
likely Carroll, tried to guess *my* passwords and they did it from an Internet
café (Google tells you the IP and that can be used to trace back).

My guess: Carroll is the one who was working to guess my password and
figured this new lie of his was a good way to deny his own words even more
than he does with his Tor account *and* a way to make it so if I had talked
about him trying to hack my account he could say I was just copying his
comments. "Proving" I read his posts... which for now I am to see how absurd
his lies are. :)

Carroll, 4/11/2015 12:25 PM:
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The person who hacked into my Gmail acct. changed the wording on
this post. I've removed the others but Google asked me to leave
one standing for some odd reason.
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Here Carroll claims the hacker changed the wording on a post of his from
*before* he had even claimed he was hacked. So this hacker not only can
*post* for him but edit his old Usenet posts.

I call utter bullshit on this. Out and out lie from Carroll. And then
Carroll says Google asked him to not delete these "hacked" posts... this
is nonsense. Why would Google want him to leave forged posts in the public
and why would Google not just keep their own copy? Even Carroll notes it
is for "some odd reason" - yeah, because Carroll is telling stories that
make *no* sense at all.

Carroll is lying. Maybe there is some kernel of truth to his stories?
Even if so - and frankly it is unlikely he will ever show any evidence
to back his claims - the details he is posting are absurd.

Carroll, 4/11/2015 2:10 PM:
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And he's so high he thinks people still have to manually enter all
their passwords in whenever they want to use anything that's been
password protected ;)
-----
Nobody had suggested, hinted, implied, or said anything like what Carroll
says they did.

Maybe his story will be someone stole his laptop (or mobile device) and
he had his passwords saved? If so why not have the device deactivated remotely?
Why has he not said anything about this?

Alan B <alanrichardbarker@nospamgmail.com.here> wrote:
> John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> I posted the query below a few days ago on comp.mobile.ipad, where it was met
>> by a resounding silence. So I wonder if anyone here could tell me why this
>> setting doesn't work?
>> ______________________________________________
>> If I go to Settings > Mail on my iPad I find a setting "Most recent message on
>> top".
>> But my threads and my emails (in threads or out) are always most recent on
>> top, no matter how I set the switch.
>>
>> I'm sure it used to work. It may have broken with a recent iPadOS 14 update
>> (I'm fully up to date).
>>
>> Does anyone else see this? Can it be made to work?
>> ______________________________________________
>
> That’s what I’m finding too.
>

Well, that's reassuring. At least it's not local to me; I was a mite
concerned that there was something agley with my set up.

Curious that nobody else has chipped in, though. It's not a matter of much
concern, but I don't like it when things don't work as they should.

John.

--
Winning isn't everything, but losing isn't anything - Snoopy.