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Subject: Re: Average TOC rolling stock ages
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 by: Coffee - Thu, 19 Oct 2023 12:13 UTC

On 19/10/2023 11:52, Recliner wrote:
>
> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8yheg6XAAA-_LG?format=jpg&name=medium
>
> From
>
> https://dataportal.orr.gov.uk/media/g3xjpk2p/infrastructure-and-assets-2022-23.pdf

I wish some would get over the idea that newer is better.

The IETs are less comfortable than the HSTs. (And the HSTs can survive
the a little spray at Dawlish which is more can be said for the IETs.)

The newly introduced TfW 197s are the most uncomfortable UK rolling
stock I've ever travelled on. The seats are so hard which is a shame as
otherwise they're very nice.

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From: recliner...@gmail.com (Recliner)
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Subject: Re: Average TOC rolling stock ages
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 by: Recliner - Thu, 19 Oct 2023 14:53 UTC

Coffee <martin.coffee@round-midnight.org.uk> wrote:
> On 19/10/2023 11:52, Recliner wrote:
>>
>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8yheg6XAAA-_LG?format=jpg&name=medium
>>
>> From
>>
>> https://dataportal.orr.gov.uk/media/g3xjpk2p/infrastructure-and-assets-2022-23.pdf
>
> I wish some would get over the idea that newer is better.
>
> The IETs are less comfortable than the HSTs. (And the HSTs can survive
> the a little spray at Dawlish which is more can be said for the IETs.)
>
> The newly introduced TfW 197s are the most uncomfortable UK rolling
> stock I've ever travelled on. The seats are so hard which is a shame as
> otherwise they're very nice.
>

That's what comes of civil servants procuring new trains!

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 by: Coffee - Thu, 19 Oct 2023 15:52 UTC

On 19/10/2023 15:53, Recliner wrote:
> Coffee <martin.coffee@round-midnight.org.uk> wrote:
>> On 19/10/2023 11:52, Recliner wrote:
>>>
>>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8yheg6XAAA-_LG?format=jpg&name=medium
>>>
>>> From
>>>
>>> https://dataportal.orr.gov.uk/media/g3xjpk2p/infrastructure-and-assets-2022-23.pdf
>>
>> I wish some would get over the idea that newer is better.
>>
>> The IETs are less comfortable than the HSTs. (And the HSTs can survive
>> the a little spray at Dawlish which is more can be said for the IETs.)
>>
>> The newly introduced TfW 197s are the most uncomfortable UK rolling
>> stock I've ever travelled on. The seats are so hard which is a shame as
>> otherwise they're very nice.
>>
>
> That's what comes of civil servants procuring new trains!
>
Especially the IETs get upset with a little spray at Dawlish.

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On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 16:52:53 +0100
Coffee <martin.coffee@round-midnight.org.uk> wrote:
>On 19/10/2023 15:53, Recliner wrote:
>> Coffee <martin.coffee@round-midnight.org.uk> wrote:
>>> On 19/10/2023 11:52, Recliner wrote:
>>>>
>>>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8yheg6XAAA-_LG?format=jpg&name=medium
>>>>
>>>> From
>>>>
>>>>
>https://dataportal.orr.gov.uk/media/g3xjpk2p/infrastructure-and-assets-2022-23.
>pdf
>>>
>>> I wish some would get over the idea that newer is better.
>>>
>>> The IETs are less comfortable than the HSTs. (And the HSTs can survive
>>> the a little spray at Dawlish which is more can be said for the IETs.)
>>>
>>> The newly introduced TfW 197s are the most uncomfortable UK rolling
>>> stock I've ever travelled on. The seats are so hard which is a shame as
>>> otherwise they're very nice.
>>>
>>
>> That's what comes of civil servants procuring new trains!
>>
>Especially the IETs get upset with a little spray at Dawlish.

Didn't anyone tell Hitachi they might get a bit wet next to the sea?

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 by: Recliner - Thu, 19 Oct 2023 15:59 UTC

Coffee <martin.coffee@round-midnight.org.uk> wrote:
> On 19/10/2023 15:53, Recliner wrote:
>> Coffee <martin.coffee@round-midnight.org.uk> wrote:
>>> On 19/10/2023 11:52, Recliner wrote:
>>>>
>>>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8yheg6XAAA-_LG?format=jpg&name=medium
>>>>
>>>> From
>>>>
>>>> https://dataportal.orr.gov.uk/media/g3xjpk2p/infrastructure-and-assets-2022-23.pdf
>>>
>>> I wish some would get over the idea that newer is better.
>>>
>>> The IETs are less comfortable than the HSTs. (And the HSTs can survive
>>> the a little spray at Dawlish which is more can be said for the IETs.)
>>>
>>> The newly introduced TfW 197s are the most uncomfortable UK rolling
>>> stock I've ever travelled on. The seats are so hard which is a shame as
>>> otherwise they're very nice.
>>>
>>
>> That's what comes of civil servants procuring new trains!
>>
> Especially the IETs get upset with a little spray at Dawlish.

The IETs weren't procured for that route.

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 by: Coffee - Thu, 19 Oct 2023 16:17 UTC

On 19/10/2023 16:59, Recliner wrote:
> Coffee <martin.coffee@round-midnight.org.uk> wrote:
>> On 19/10/2023 15:53, Recliner wrote:
>>> Coffee <martin.coffee@round-midnight.org.uk> wrote:
>>>> On 19/10/2023 11:52, Recliner wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8yheg6XAAA-_LG?format=jpg&name=medium
>>>>>
>>>>> From
>>>>>
>>>>> https://dataportal.orr.gov.uk/media/g3xjpk2p/infrastructure-and-assets-2022-23.pdf
>>>>
>>>> I wish some would get over the idea that newer is better.
>>>>
>>>> The IETs are less comfortable than the HSTs. (And the HSTs can survive
>>>> the a little spray at Dawlish which is more can be said for the IETs.)
>>>>
>>>> The newly introduced TfW 197s are the most uncomfortable UK rolling
>>>> stock I've ever travelled on. The seats are so hard which is a shame as
>>>> otherwise they're very nice.
>>>>
>>>
>>> That's what comes of civil servants procuring new trains!
>>>
>> Especially the IETs get upset with a little spray at Dawlish.
>
> The IETs weren't procured for that route.
>
Not the original fleet. gWr's HST replacements were bought for the
route though. Yesterday was the second time I've seen an IET
thunderbird fail.

What get's me is the voyagers are banned during poor weather but the
IETs are allowed to continue to totally block the down line yesterday.

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 by: Recliner - Fri, 20 Oct 2023 11:57 UTC

On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 17:17:23 +0100, Coffee <martin.coffee@round-midnight.org.uk> wrote:

>On 19/10/2023 16:59, Recliner wrote:
>> Coffee <martin.coffee@round-midnight.org.uk> wrote:
>>> On 19/10/2023 15:53, Recliner wrote:
>>>> Coffee <martin.coffee@round-midnight.org.uk> wrote:
>>>>> On 19/10/2023 11:52, Recliner wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8yheg6XAAA-_LG?format=jpg&name=medium
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://dataportal.orr.gov.uk/media/g3xjpk2p/infrastructure-and-assets-2022-23.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>> I wish some would get over the idea that newer is better.
>>>>>
>>>>> The IETs are less comfortable than the HSTs. (And the HSTs can survive
>>>>> the a little spray at Dawlish which is more can be said for the IETs.)
>>>>>
>>>>> The newly introduced TfW 197s are the most uncomfortable UK rolling
>>>>> stock I've ever travelled on. The seats are so hard which is a shame as
>>>>> otherwise they're very nice.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's what comes of civil servants procuring new trains!
>>>>
>>> Especially the IETs get upset with a little spray at Dawlish.
>>
>> The IETs weren't procured for that route.
>>
>Not the original fleet. gWr's HST replacements were bought for the
>route though. Yesterday was the second time I've seen an IET
>thunderbird fail.

I think that, technically, only 800s and 801s are IETs.

>
>What get's me is the voyagers are banned during poor weather but the
>IETs are allowed to continue to totally block the down line yesterday.

What else could they use?

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