On 15/01/2022 19:50, Richard Robinson wrote:

> "The Police", in the idealistic abstract, may be as you describe it.
> Many people will testify that actual uniformed humans don't always live
> up to this description.
>
I've not met a bad one yet. Occasionally, I've met one doing a job I'd
rather they didn't do, but that's life.

> Being a white man with a midle-class voice, I have only experienced the
> mild fringes of their dark side, but I will still say that the more
> someone likes being in a position of power the less they should be
> trusted with it.
>
Not all are perfect, but what alternatives are there?

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John.

On Sun, 16 Jan 2022 08:06:07 +0000
John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:

> On 15/01/2022 19:50, Richard Robinson wrote:
>
> > "The Police", in the idealistic abstract, may be as you describe it.
> > Many people will testify that actual uniformed humans don't always live
> > up to this description.
> >
> I've not met a bad one yet. Occasionally, I've met one doing a job I'd
> rather they didn't do, but that's life.

Seconded - but I have heard stories - TAAAW on such occasions I've
noticed that they're not entirely happy about it either - but not
responsive to suggestions starting "Well if nobody wants this ...".

I think the response you get from them tends to depend on how you
respond to them - I can quite understand that most of them want potential
trouble to stay potential and if it won't then to get it stopped *fast* -
but being clearly not potential trouble tends to bring out the best in them.

At one PPOE my regular ride to the airport was an ex Garda who
served in some of the rougher parts of the border. He told me that he'd
quit because while he could cope with scrotes coming at him with clubs and
knives and even the occasional gun he found syringes terrifying - I can't
say I blame him. He had all the advanced driving training including
pursuit, we never missed a flight but it was sometimes fun - he liked
driving me because he had to be sedate and strictly legal with his regular
German passengers.

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On 15/01/2022 14:19, nev young wrote:
> On 14/01/2022 10:09, John Williamson wrote:
>>
>> Do as I say, not as I do? Not a good way to persuade people to do the
>> right thing.
>>
> <not wishing to sound troll like but (I am quite drunk)>
>
Good to see the first rule of posting still holds true.

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John Williamson said:
> On 15/01/2022 19:50, Richard Robinson wrote:
>
>> "The Police", in the idealistic abstract, may be as you describe it.
>> Many people will testify that actual uniformed humans don't always live
>> up to this description.
>>
> I've not met a bad one yet. Occasionally, I've met one doing a job I'd
> rather they didn't do, but that's life.
>
>> Being a white man with a midle-class voice, I have only experienced the
>> mild fringes of their dark side, but I will still say that the more
>> someone likes being in a position of power the less they should be
>> trusted with it.
>>
> Not all are perfect, but what alternatives are there?

Most improvements start by recognising that there is room/need for them ?

--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

My email address is at http://qualmograph.org.uk/contact.html

On 16/01/2022 08:06, John Williamson wrote:
> On 15/01/2022 19:50, Richard Robinson wrote:
>
>> "The Police", in the idealistic abstract, may be as you describe it.
>> Many people will testify that actual uniformed humans don't always live
>> up to this description.
>>
> I've not met a bad one yet. Occasionally, I've met one doing a job I'd
> rather they didn't do, but that's life.

Almost all that I've met have been fine. There was one who was
determined to get me convicted of something and lied through his teeth
in court accordingly - it didn't work though.

In article <j4j6ucF8rmU1@mid.individual.net>, Mike Fleming
<mike@tauzero.co.uk> on Sun, 16 Jan 2022 at 18:36:58 awoke Nicholas
from his slumbers and wrote
>On 16/01/2022 08:06, John Williamson wrote:
>> On 15/01/2022 19:50, Richard Robinson wrote:
>>
>>> "The Police", in the idealistic abstract, may be as you describe it.
>>> Many people will testify that actual uniformed humans don't always live
>>> up to this description.
>>>
>> I've not met a bad one yet. Occasionally, I've met one doing a job I'd
>> rather they didn't do, but that's life.
>
>Almost all that I've met have been fine. There was one who was
>determined to get me convicted of something and lied through his teeth
>in court accordingly - it didn't work though.

My old man did jury service twice, the first he never talked about, it
was a secrets trial in camera.

The second was burglary case, where they found the two burglars not
guilty. Quote "they were as guilty as hell but the police were lying".
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