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* defamationMax
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`* Re: defamationRod Speed
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From: max...@val.morgan (Max)
Newsgroups: aus.legal
Subject: defamation
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2022 08:59:01 +1000
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 by: Max - Tue, 26 Jul 2022 22:59 UTC

This is a post on Whirlpool:

Hello, is there any reason why this would not be a good thing to do?
Help me out here, I’m trying to stay cool headed. My family and I have
been getting abusive emails from a man that used to be married to a
friend of ours. Their marriage ended in a bitter divorce about 4 years
ago. Since then we have been periodically getting racist, harassing and
intimidating emails from this person, stopping just short of making
threats of violence. I’m not sure what his issue with us is other than
the fact we were supportive of his ex during the divorce. I know going
to the police is going to be pointless since no clear threats have been
made. I want to tell them that unless they stop I will make the emails
public so others can see the type of person he is, including future
employers. I feel behaviour like this should be called out. It would not
be defamation because i would be making public his actual words. I don’t
want to ruin his future but this has to stop and there need to be
consequences. I want him to consider the consequences his actions can
have, if not for others, at least for himself. Any advice would be
appreciated.

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The poster claims that what he is contemplating doing wouldn't be
defamation. Is this correct?

Would the poster have any other legal problems in doing it?

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From: max...@val.morgan (Max)
Newsgroups: aus.legal
Subject: Re: defamation
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2022 09:07:00 +1000
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 by: Max - Tue, 26 Jul 2022 23:07 UTC

On 27/07/2022 8:59 am, Max wrote:
> This is a post on Whirlpool:
>
> Hello, is there any reason why this would not be a good thing to do?
> Help me out here, I’m trying to stay cool headed. My family and I have
> been getting abusive emails from a man that used to be married to a
> friend of ours. Their marriage ended in a bitter divorce about 4 years
> ago. Since then we have been periodically getting racist, harassing and
> intimidating emails from this person, stopping just short of making
> threats of violence. I’m not sure what his issue with us is other than
> the fact we were supportive of his ex during the divorce. I know going
> to the police is going to be pointless since no clear threats have been
> made. I want to tell them that unless they stop I will make the emails
> public so others can see the type of person he is, including future
> employers. I feel behaviour like this should be called out. It would not
> be defamation because i would be making public his actual words. I don’t
> want to ruin his future but this has to stop and there need to be
> consequences. I want him to consider the consequences his actions can
> have, if not for others, at least for himself. Any advice would be
> appreciated.
>
> --------------
>

Title of the thread on Whirlpool is: Outing my online bully on social media

Re: defamation

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From: rod.spee...@gmail.com (Rod Speed)
Newsgroups: aus.legal
Subject: Re: defamation
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2022 09:19:34 +1000
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 by: Rod Speed - Tue, 26 Jul 2022 23:19 UTC

On Wed, 27 Jul 2022 08:59:01 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:

> This is a post on Whirlpool:
>
> Hello, is there any reason why this would not be a good thing to do?
> Help me out here, I’m trying to stay cool headed. My family and I have
> been getting abusive emails from a man that used to be married to a
> friend of ours. Their marriage ended in a bitter divorce about 4 years
> ago. Since then we have been periodically getting racist, harassing and
> intimidating emails from this person, stopping just short of making
> threats of violence. I’m not sure what his issue with us is other than
> the fact we were supportive of his ex during the divorce. I know going
> to the police is going to be pointless since no clear threats have been
> made. I want to tell them that unless they stop I will make the emails
> public so others can see the type of person he is, including future
> employers. I feel behaviour like this should be called out. It would not
> be defamation because i would be making public his actual words. I don’t
> want to ruin his future but this has to stop and there need to be
> consequences. I want him to consider the consequences his actions can
> have, if not for others, at least for himself. Any advice would be
> appreciated.
>
> --------------
>
> The poster claims that what he is contemplating doing wouldn't be
> defamation. Is this correct?

Corse it isn't defamation if the abuser actually sent those emails.

> Would the poster have any other legal problems in doing it?

It would be a breach of copyright, but there are no significant
penaltys for a breach of copyright in that situation.

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From: max...@val.morgan (Max)
Newsgroups: aus.legal
Subject: Re: defamation
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2022 18:09:03 +1000
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 by: Max - Wed, 27 Jul 2022 08:09 UTC

On 27/07/2022 9:19 am, Rod Speed wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Jul 2022 08:59:01 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:
>
>> This is a post on Whirlpool:
>>
>> Hello, is there any reason why this would not be a good thing to do?
>> Help me out here, I’m trying to stay cool headed. My family and I have
>> been getting abusive emails from a man that used to be married to a
>> friend of ours. Their marriage ended in a bitter divorce about 4 years
>> ago. Since then we have been periodically getting racist, harassing
>> and intimidating emails from this person, stopping just short of
>> making threats of violence. I’m not sure what his issue with us is
>> other than the fact we were supportive of his ex during the divorce. I
>> know going to the police is going to be pointless since no clear
>> threats have been made. I want to tell them that unless they stop I
>> will make the emails public so others can see the type of person he
>> is, including future employers. I feel behaviour like this should be
>> called out. It would not be defamation because i would be making
>> public his actual words. I don’t want to ruin his future but this has
>> to stop and there need to be consequences. I want him to consider the
>> consequences his actions can have, if not for others, at least for
>> himself. Any advice would be appreciated.
>>
>> --------------
>>
>> The poster claims that what he is contemplating doing wouldn't be
>> defamation.  Is this correct?
>
> Corse it isn't defamation if the abuser actually sent those emails.
>

Isn't it possible that there are defamatory imputations in the emails,
even though the person being defamed is the one that wrote them?

>> Would the poster have any other legal problems in doing it?
>
> It would be a breach of copyright, but there are no significant
> penaltys for a breach of copyright in that situation.

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Newsgroups: aus.legal
Subject: Re: defamation
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2022 04:00:25 +1000
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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 27 Jul 2022 18:00 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote

>>> This is a post on Whirlpool:

>>> Hello, is there any reason why this would not be a good thing to do?
>>> Help me out here, I’m trying to stay cool headed. My family and I have
>>> been getting abusive emails from a man that used to be married to a
>>> friend of ours. Their marriage ended in a bitter divorce about 4 years
>>> ago. Since then we have been periodically getting racist, harassing
>>> and intimidating emails from this person, stopping just short of
>>> making threats of violence. I’m not sure what his issue with us is
>>> other than the fact we were supportive of his ex during the divorce. I
>>> know going to the police is going to be pointless since no clear
>>> threats have been made. I want to tell them that unless they stop I
>>> will make the emails public so others can see the type of person he
>>> is, including future employers. I feel behaviour like this should be
>>> called out. It would not be defamation because i would be making
>>> public his actual words. I don’t want to ruin his future but this has
>>> to stop and there need to be consequences. I want him to consider the
>>> consequences his actions can have, if not for others, at least for
>>> himself. Any advice would be appreciated.

>>> --------------

>>> The poster claims that what he is contemplating doing wouldn't be
>>> defamation. Is this correct?

>> Corse it isn't defamation if the abuser actually sent those emails.

> Isn't it possible that there are defamatory imputations in the emails,
> even though the person being defamed is the one that wrote them?

That is nothing like your original, stupid.

>>> Would the poster have any other legal problems in doing it?

>> It would be a breach of copyright, but there are no significant
>> penaltys for a breach of copyright in that situation.

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From: max...@val.morgan (Max)
Newsgroups: aus.legal
Subject: Re: defamation
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2022 08:56:28 +1000
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 by: Max - Wed, 27 Jul 2022 22:56 UTC

On 28/07/2022 4:00 am, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>
>>>> This is a post on Whirlpool:
>
>>>> Hello, is there any reason why this would not be a good thing to do?
>>>> Help me out here, I’m trying to stay cool headed. My family and I
>>>> have been getting abusive emails from a man that used to be married
>>>> to a friend of ours. Their marriage ended in a bitter divorce about
>>>> 4 years ago. Since then we have been periodically getting racist,
>>>> harassing and intimidating emails from this person, stopping just
>>>> short of making threats of violence. I’m not sure what his issue
>>>> with us is other than the fact we were supportive of his ex during
>>>> the divorce. I know going to the police is going to be pointless
>>>> since no clear threats have been made. I want to tell them that
>>>> unless they stop I will make the emails public so others can see the
>>>> type of person he is, including future employers. I feel behaviour
>>>> like this should be called out. It would not be defamation because i
>>>> would be making public his actual words. I don’t want to ruin his
>>>> future but this has to stop and there need to be consequences. I
>>>> want him to consider the consequences his actions can have, if not
>>>> for others, at least for himself. Any advice would be appreciated.
>
>>>> --------------
>
>>>> The poster claims that what he is contemplating doing wouldn't be
>>>> defamation.  Is this correct?
>
>>>  Corse it isn't defamation if the abuser actually sent those emails.
>
>> Isn't it possible that there are defamatory imputations in the emails,
>> even though the person being defamed is the one that wrote them?
>
> That is nothing like your original, stupid.
>

The original is that the guy wants to publish emails that have been sent
to him.

If the emails contain negative imputations about the author, even if
written by him, then it may be defamatory to publish those emails,

Particularly if the emails were intended for only one person to read and
not the whole world.

>>>> Would the poster have any other legal problems in doing it?
>
>>>  It would be a breach of copyright, but there are no significant
>>> penaltys for a breach of copyright in that situation.


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