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* Is this guy for real?John_H
+* Re: Is this guy for real?Daryl
|`* Re: Is this guy for real?Noddy
| `* Re: Is this guy for real?Daryl
|  `* Re: Is this guy for real?Noddy
|   `* Re: Is this guy for real?John_H
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|    `* Re: Is this guy for real?Falscher Bruce
|     `* Re: Is this guy for real?Daryl
|      +- Re: Is this guy for real?Clocky
|      `- Re: Is this guy for real?John_H
+- Re: Is this guy for real?alvey
`- Re: Is this guy for real?Clocky

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 by: John_H - Tue, 2 Nov 2021 06:15 UTC

https://tinyurl.com/bhtmusen

And he reckons diesel mechanics are hard to find!

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From: dwalf...@westpine.com.au (Daryl)
Newsgroups: aus.cars
Subject: Re: Is this guy for real?
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 by: Daryl - Tue, 2 Nov 2021 07:21 UTC

On 2/11/21 5:15 pm, John_H wrote:
> https://tinyurl.com/bhtmusen
>
> And he reckons diesel mechanics are hard to find!
>
LOL, good luck finding the right people to service those buses in a
place like Emerald, he will be paying top dollar if he can find someone.

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From: alv...@is.invalid (alvey)
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Subject: Re: Is this guy for real?
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2021 17:28:30 +1000
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 by: alvey - Tue, 2 Nov 2021 07:28 UTC

On Tue, 02 Nov 2021 16:15:56 +1000, John_H wrote:

> https://tinyurl.com/bhtmusen
>
> And he reckons diesel mechanics are hard to find!

No, he said, "We already find it difficult to attract mechanics and people
to work on these vehicles. I'm just not sure how many skilled tradesmen
we're going to have to be servicing the diesel vehicles in 15 years' time."

And do note that their business is in CQ, which isn't everybody's cup of
oil.

alvey

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From: notgo...@happen.com (Clocky)
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 by: Clocky - Tue, 2 Nov 2021 07:59 UTC

On 2/11/2021 2:15 pm, John_H wrote:
> https://tinyurl.com/bhtmusen
>
> And he reckons diesel mechanics are hard to find!
>

Not enough incentive to attract people to that region I suspect.

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From: me...@home.com (Noddy)
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Subject: Re: Is this guy for real?
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2021 19:49:40 +1100
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 by: Noddy - Tue, 2 Nov 2021 08:49 UTC

On 2/11/2021 6:21 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 2/11/21 5:15 pm, John_H wrote:
>> https://tinyurl.com/bhtmusen
>>
>> And he reckons diesel mechanics are hard to find!
>>
> LOL, good luck finding the right people to service those buses in a
> place like Emerald, he will be paying top dollar if he can find someone.

Which is probably why he reckons diesel mechanics are hard to find :)

I think he was just saying whatever he thought he needed to for the the
story, which itself was very little other than advertising fluff for his
business.

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Noddy.

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 by: Daryl - Tue, 2 Nov 2021 11:10 UTC

On 2/11/21 7:49 pm, Noddy wrote:
> On 2/11/2021 6:21 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 2/11/21 5:15 pm, John_H wrote:
>>> https://tinyurl.com/bhtmusen
>>>
>>> And he reckons diesel mechanics are hard to find!
>>>
>> LOL, good luck finding the right people to service those buses in a
>> place like Emerald, he will be paying top dollar if he can find someone.
>
> Which is probably why he reckons diesel mechanics are hard to find :)
>
> I think he was just saying whatever he thought he needed to for the the
> story, which itself was very little other than advertising fluff for his
> business.
>
>
>
Very likely.
If he had said that he was going to convert his diesel buses to run on
hydrogen it might of made some sense but the cost of replacing his
existing fleet with fuel cell buses would be astronomical.

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Daryl

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 by: Noddy - Tue, 2 Nov 2021 13:32 UTC

On 2/11/2021 10:10 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 2/11/21 7:49 pm, Noddy wrote:
>> On 2/11/2021 6:21 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>> On 2/11/21 5:15 pm, John_H wrote:
>>>> https://tinyurl.com/bhtmusen
>>>>
>>>> And he reckons diesel mechanics are hard to find!
>>>>
>>> LOL, good luck finding the right people to service those buses in a
>>> place like Emerald, he will be paying top dollar if he can find someone.
>>
>> Which is probably why he reckons diesel mechanics are hard to find :)
>>
>> I think he was just saying whatever he thought he needed to for the
>> the story, which itself was very little other than advertising fluff
>> for his business.
>>
>>
>>
> Very likely.
> If he had said that he was going to convert his diesel buses to run on
> hydrogen it might of made some sense but the cost of replacing his
> existing fleet with fuel cell buses would be astronomical.

I think the whole story was just a bit of paid advertising really....

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 by: John_H - Tue, 2 Nov 2021 20:58 UTC

Noddy wrote:

>On 2/11/2021 10:10 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 2/11/21 7:49 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 2/11/2021 6:21 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>> On 2/11/21 5:15 pm, John_H wrote:
>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/bhtmusen
>>>>>
>>>>> And he reckons diesel mechanics are hard to find!
>>>>>
>>>> LOL, good luck finding the right people to service those buses in a
>>>> place like Emerald, he will be paying top dollar if he can find someone.
>>>
>>> Which is probably why he reckons diesel mechanics are hard to find :)
>>>
>>> I think he was just saying whatever he thought he needed to for the
>>> the story, which itself was very little other than advertising fluff
>>> for his business.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Very likely.
>> If he had said that he was going to convert his diesel buses to run on
>> hydrogen it might of made some sense but the cost of replacing his
>> existing fleet with fuel cell buses would be astronomical.
>
>I think the whole story was just a bit of paid advertising really....

Unpaid advertising more like... thanks to the ABC who get their rocks
off on green stuff!

Doesn't take Einstein to work out that the economics don't stack up,
even more so the expertise needed to produce and transfer hydrogen on
site.

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 by: Noddy - Tue, 2 Nov 2021 21:11 UTC

On 3/11/2021 7:58 am, John_H wrote:
> Noddy wrote:
>
>> On 2/11/2021 10:10 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>> On 2/11/21 7:49 pm, Noddy wrote:
>>>> On 2/11/2021 6:21 pm, Daryl wrote:
>>>>> On 2/11/21 5:15 pm, John_H wrote:
>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/bhtmusen
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And he reckons diesel mechanics are hard to find!
>>>>>>
>>>>> LOL, good luck finding the right people to service those buses in a
>>>>> place like Emerald, he will be paying top dollar if he can find someone.
>>>>
>>>> Which is probably why he reckons diesel mechanics are hard to find :)
>>>>
>>>> I think he was just saying whatever he thought he needed to for the
>>>> the story, which itself was very little other than advertising fluff
>>>> for his business.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Very likely.
>>> If he had said that he was going to convert his diesel buses to run on
>>> hydrogen it might of made some sense but the cost of replacing his
>>> existing fleet with fuel cell buses would be astronomical.
>>
>> I think the whole story was just a bit of paid advertising really....
>
> Unpaid advertising more like... thanks to the ABC who get their rocks
> off on green stuff!

Don't know why anyone bothers with the ABC to be honest. Their agenda's
are just as bad as any of the commercial networks :)

> Doesn't take Einstein to work out that the economics don't stack up,
> even more so the expertise needed to produce and transfer hydrogen on
> site.

Indeed.

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 by: Falscher Bruce - Wed, 3 Nov 2021 09:58 UTC

On Wednesday, November 3, 2021 at 4:58:15 AM UTC+8, John_H wrote:

> Doesn't take Einstein to work out that the economics don't stack up,
> even more so the expertise needed to produce and transfer hydrogen on
> site.

There were 3 hydrogen buses in Perth from 2004-2007. It allegedly cost 13 million for that beta test.
So none have been seen since then.

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 by: Daryl - Wed, 3 Nov 2021 11:50 UTC

On 3/11/21 8:58 pm, Falscher Bruce wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 3, 2021 at 4:58:15 AM UTC+8, John_H wrote:
>
>> Doesn't take Einstein to work out that the economics don't stack up,
>> even more so the expertise needed to produce and transfer hydrogen on
>> site.
>
> There were 3 hydrogen buses in Perth from 2004-2007. It allegedly cost 13 million for that beta test.
> So none have been seen since then.
>

What sort of system did they use?
Was it fuel cells or was it diesels converted to run on hydrogen?
Just watched a video about a new way of providing hydrogen to fuel cells
which could be a game changer, no high pressure storage required.
https://plasmakinetics.com/
Cheaper, lighter and safer than batteries and only minutes to refuel, if
it does get off the ground it could make BEV's obsolete.

--
Daryl

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 by: Clocky - Wed, 3 Nov 2021 23:52 UTC

On 3/11/2021 7:50 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 3/11/21 8:58 pm, Falscher Bruce wrote:
>> On Wednesday, November 3, 2021 at 4:58:15 AM UTC+8, John_H wrote:
>>
>>> Doesn't take Einstein to work out that the economics don't stack up,
>>> even more so the expertise needed to produce and transfer hydrogen on
>>> site.
>>
>> There were 3 hydrogen buses in Perth from 2004-2007. It allegedly cost
>> 13 million for that beta test.
>> So none have been seen since then.
>>
>
> What sort of system did they use?
> Was it fuel cells or was it diesels converted to run on hydrogen?
> Just watched a video about a new way of providing hydrogen to fuel cells
> which could be a game changer, no high pressure storage required.
> https://plasmakinetics.com/
> Cheaper, lighter and safer than batteries and only minutes to refuel, if
> it does get off the ground it could make BEV's obsolete.
>

Fuck you are so gullible... convinced by a bunch of bullshit and stock
images.

Go on Daryl... invest. LOL

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 by: John_H - Thu, 4 Nov 2021 02:35 UTC

Daryl wrote:
>On 3/11/21 8:58 pm, Falscher Bruce wrote:
>> On Wednesday, November 3, 2021 at 4:58:15 AM UTC+8, John_H wrote:
>>
>>> Doesn't take Einstein to work out that the economics don't stack up,
>>> even more so the expertise needed to produce and transfer hydrogen on
>>> site.
>>
>> There were 3 hydrogen buses in Perth from 2004-2007. It allegedly cost 13 million for that beta test.
>> So none have been seen since then.
>>
>
>What sort of system did they use?
>Was it fuel cells or was it diesels converted to run on hydrogen?
>Just watched a video about a new way of providing hydrogen to fuel cells
>which could be a game changer, no high pressure storage required.
>https://plasmakinetics.com/
>Cheaper, lighter and safer than batteries and only minutes to refuel, if
>it does get off the ground it could make BEV's obsolete.

It's unsubstantiated crap with about as much credibility as the
Horvath hydrogen car (google it if you've never heard of it)!

The method all "green" hydrogen producers rely on is electrolysis
using electricity from renewable sources (as the bus operator is
proposing). Any other commercially viable process involves CO2
emissions.

--
John H

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