[NOTE that the rider shown in the photo in the article referenced below
is inches from the centre marking. On a lane that's 3.5, wide, and a car
width of 2m. there will be less than 1.5m clearance from that cyclist.
If cyclists demand 1.5m clearance, they should be prepared to take some
responsibility for providing it.The letter by cycling UK is a hoot,
trying to bend as it does the issue of safety into the issue of health]

Cycling UK has written to Derbyshire County Council to call for the
publication of a risk assessment which justifies banning cyclists and
walkers from Snake Pass, a decision the council said was “because of
concerns over safety”. If no risk assessment exists, the charity says
the road should be immediately reopened to active travel users.

However, last week Derbyshire County Council confirmed that the pass,
which runs for 12 miles from Ladybower Reservoir to Glossop, would also
be closed to cyclists and walkers, except for local access.

The council claimed that the road was closed due to fears that “there
will be an accident involving a vehicle and a cyclist because of the
large numbers of cyclists that have taken the opportunity to go out and
ride the road.”

The council also said that the road would be monitored 24 hours a day to
prevent people using it.

Though the initial Traffic Regulation Order (TRO) is set to expire on 22
March, the repairs are yet to be fully completed, with the council
therefore likely to extend the ban on road users on the A57.

<https://road.cc/content/news/cycling-uk-urges-council-justify-snake-pass-ban-291197>

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Spike

On Saturday, 19 March 2022 at 09:20:31 UTC, Spike wrote:
> [NOTE that the rider shown in the photo in the article referenced below
> is inches from the centre marking. On a lane that's 3.5, wide, and a car
> width of 2m. there will be less than 1.5m clearance from that cyclist.
> If cyclists demand 1.5m clearance, they should be prepared to take some
> responsibility for providing it.The letter by cycling UK is a hoot,
> trying to bend as it does the issue of safety into the issue of health]
>
>
> Cycling UK has written to Derbyshire County Council to call for the
> publication of a risk assessment which justifies banning cyclists and
> walkers from Snake Pass, a decision the council said was “because of
> concerns over safety”. If no risk assessment exists, the charity says
> the road should be immediately reopened to active travel users.
>
> However, last week Derbyshire County Council confirmed that the pass,
> which runs for 12 miles from Ladybower Reservoir to Glossop, would also
> be closed to cyclists and walkers, except for local access.
>
> The council claimed that the road was closed due to fears that “there
> will be an accident involving a vehicle and a cyclist because of the
> large numbers of cyclists that have taken the opportunity to go out and
> ride the road.”
>
> The council also said that the road would be monitored 24 hours a day to
> prevent people using it.
>
> Though the initial Traffic Regulation Order (TRO) is set to expire on 22
> March, the repairs are yet to be fully completed, with the council
> therefore likely to extend the ban on road users on the A57.
>
>
> <https://road.cc/content/news/cycling-uk-urges-council-justify-snake-pass-ban-291197>
>
>
> --
> Spike

So you agree, If Snake pass is ever re-opened to subsidised road users there should be a marked 2m wide primary road user lane in each direction and motorists will just have to put up with whatever space is left with a 'Motorists get out and push' sign at each end of the pass.

On 19/03/2022 11:19, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Saturday, 19 March 2022 at 09:20:31 UTC, Spike wrote:

>> [NOTE that the rider shown in the photo in the article referenced below
>> is inches from the centre marking. On a lane that's 3.5m wide, and a car
>> width of 2m. there will be less than 1.5m clearance from that cyclist.
>> If cyclists demand 1.5m clearance, they should be prepared to take some
>> responsibility for providing it.The letter by cycling UK is a hoot,
>> trying to bend as it does the issue of safety into the issue of health]

>> <https://road.cc/content/news/cycling-uk-urges-council-justify-snake-pass-ban-291197>

> So you agree, If Snake pass is ever re-opened to subsidised road users there should be a marked 2m wide primary road user lane in each direction and motorists will just have to put up with whatever space is left with a 'Motorists get out and push' sign at each end of the pass.

However could you read that into what was a polite form of saying the
cyclist was stupid, if not selfish and egotistical?

--
Spike

On 19/03/2022 09:20 am, Spike wrote:

> [NOTE that the rider shown in the photo in the article referenced below
> is inches from the centre marking. On a lane that's 3.5, wide, and a car
> width of 2m. there will be less than 1.5m clearance from that cyclist.
> If cyclists demand 1.5m clearance, they should be prepared to take some
> responsibility for providing it.The letter by cycling UK is a hoot,
> trying to bend as it does the issue of safety into the issue of health]
>
>
> Fairy-Cycling UK has written to Derbyshire County Council to call for the
> publication of a risk assessment which justifies banning fairy-cyclists and
> walkers from Snake Pass, a decision the council said was “because of
> concerns over safety”. If no risk assessment exists, the charity says
> the road should be immediately reopened to active travel users.
>
> However, last week Derbyshire County Council confirmed that the pass,
> which runs for 12 miles from Ladybower Reservoir to Glossop, would also
> be closed to fairy-cyclists and walkers, except for local access.
>
> The council claimed that the road was closed due to fears that “there
> will be an accident involving a vehicle and a fairy-cyclist because of the
> large numbers of fairy-cyclists that have taken the opportunity to go out and
> ride the road.”
>
> The council also said that the road would be monitored 24 hours a day to
> prevent people (mainly scofflaw fairy-cyclists) using it.
>
> Though the initial Traffic Regulation Order (TRO) is set to expire on 22
> March, the repairs are yet to be fully completed, with the council
> therefore likely to extend the ban on road users on the A57.
>
>
> <https://road.cc/content/news/cycling-uk-urges-council-justify-snake-pass-ban-291197>

Derbyshire County Council hasn't had a good reputation over the years,
but it seems that they're improving: putting logical consideration and
conclusions ahead of dogmatism.

For a change.

> So you agree, If Snake pass is ever re-opened to subsidised road users there should be a marked 2m wide primary road user lane in each direction and motorists will just have to put up with whatever space is left with a 'Motorists get out and push' sign at each end of the pass.

PDNFTT.

On Saturday, 19 March 2022 at 14:49:39 UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> > So you agree, If Snake pass is ever re-opened to subsidised road users there should be a marked 2m wide primary road user lane in each direction and motorists will just have to put up with whatever space is left with a 'Motorists get out and push' sign at each end of the pass.
> PDNFTT.

?

On 19/03/2022 04:34 pm, Mike Collins wrote:

> On Saturday, 19 March 2022 at 14:49:39 UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

>>> So you agree, If Snake pass is ever re-opened to subsidised road users there should be a marked 2m wide primary road user lane in each direction and motorists will just have to put up with whatever space is left with a 'Motorists get out and push' sign at each end of the pass.

>> PDNFTT.
>
> ?

A natural enough reaction (and mine, initially, too).

But it's Mason. Don't make the mistake of thinking it has to make sense.

On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 4:34:29 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Saturday, 19 March 2022 at 14:49:39 UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > So you agree, If Snake pass is ever re-opened to subsidised road users there should be a marked 2m wide primary road user lane in each direction and motorists will just have to put up with whatever space is left with a 'Motorists get out and push' sign at each end of the pass.
> > PDNFTT.
> ?

PLEASE DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS.