I have just come across an interesting/useful app which identifies music.
It is called Shazam and I have it on Android but I'm sure you can get it
on Apple.
To use it just hold your device where it can "hear" the music and after
about 10 or 15 seconds it will print the name of the piece and often the
performer(s) as well.
It rarely fails but when it does fail it can be spectacularly wrong:
when I was testing it I played a sample track from the Goldberg
variations and it came up with some easy listening piano of the recent
past. I made it go again and this time correctly identified piece and
performer. The app sometimes offers to play you the whole piece. I
haven't tried it with pieces whistled or hummed . . .

Mike Ruddock

On 28/03/2022 09:16, Mike Ruddock wrote:

<snipped]

> I haven't tried [Shazam] with pieces whistled or hummed . . .
>
> Mike Ruddock

I don't think it works with such 'live' music. It seems to have a
database of recordings and doesn't analyse the music as such, but
compares it to the database. That way it can usually tell the
particular recording.

It seems to take longer the more 'obscure' the music is.

--
Cheers
Clive

On 28-Mar-22 9:16, Mike Ruddock wrote:
> The app sometimes offers to play you the whole piece. I haven't tried it
> with pieces whistled or hummed . . .

That last bit is what I need.

When I find myself whistling/humming/ti-tum ti-tum/La la laring (etc.)
some stuck tune which I know very well, but cannot for the life of me
remember its title...

--
Sam Plusnet

Mike Ruddock <ruddock117@btinternet.com> wrote:
> I have just come across an interesting/useful app which identifies music.
> It is called Shazam and I have it on Android but I'm sure you can get it
> on Apple.
> To use it just hold your device where it can "hear" the music and after
> about 10 or 15 seconds it will print the name of the piece and often the
> performer(s) as well.
> It rarely fails but when it does fail it can be spectacularly wrong:
> when I was testing it I played a sample track from the Goldberg
> variations and it came up with some easy listening piano of the recent
> past. I made it go again and this time correctly identified piece and
> performer. The app sometimes offers to play you the whole piece. I
> haven't tried it with pieces whistled or hummed . . .
>
Oh I use that frequently, on my iPhone. It certainly does work with Apple
devices. It's excellent, isn't it.

--
Sally in Shropshire, UK

On Mon, 28 Mar 2022 at 20:03:27, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote (my
responses usually FOLLOW):
>On 28-Mar-22 9:16, Mike Ruddock wrote:
>> The app sometimes offers to play you the whole piece. I haven't tried
>>it with pieces whistled or hummed . . .
>
>That last bit is what I need.
>
>When I find myself whistling/humming/ti-tum ti-tum/La la laring (etc.)
>some stuck tune which I know very well, but cannot for the life of me
>remember its title...
>
Just as OT ... it's interested me for a long time that we
British/English seem a lot more diffident (or the others are less
bothered) about singing la la la. It doesn't seem to bother some other
nationalities at all - for example (in each case "&t=" set):
Edith Piaf "Milord" (French):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqbG_R-R718&t=260s
Nana Mouskouri "Siko Chorepse Sirtaki" (Greek):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUZTleLMm8s
I'm sure 'RATs can find other examples.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Q. How much is 2 + 2?
A. Thank you so much for asking your question.
Are you still having this problem? I'll be delighted to help you. Please
restate the problem twice and include your Windows version along with
all error logs.
- Mayayana in alt.windows7.general, 2018-11-1

On Mon, 28 Mar 2022 at 20:03:27, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote (my
responses usually FOLLOW):
>On 28-Mar-22 9:16, Mike Ruddock wrote:
>> The app sometimes offers to play you the whole piece. I haven't tried
>>it with pieces whistled or hummed . . .
>
>That last bit is what I need.
>
>When I find myself whistling/humming/ti-tum ti-tum/La la laring (etc.)
>some stuck tune which I know very well, but cannot for the life of me
>remember its title...
>
I remember many years ago hearing about something I think was called the
"Birmingham hum line" - you rang this number (shows how long ago it
was!) and it would have a go at identifying it for you.

YouTube obviously have something similar, with access to what is
obviously a huge library of recordings: when playing a track I like, if
I click on SHOW MORE, I often find details of Song, Artist, Album, etc.,
"autogenerated by YouTube"; it seems to be pretty good, too, though I've
seen it get the wrong recording, artist, or even (but only _very_
occasionally) Song. Of course, maybe it starts by looking at what the
person uploading called it, so has an advantage - though I've seen it
identify the track when the uploaded didn't, so maybe not. (If wondering
how the uploader might not, they sometimes upload e. g. "Mimi from the
Des O'Connor Show 197x", and it still gets the title.)

Not that that's any use for our purposes - though I've never done so I
suspect uploading to YT is somewhat tedious, and even if it isn't,
they'd probably take a dim view if someone uploaded and then deleted
lots, just to identify them.

Is the "Shazam" app. (or similar) available via a Windows computer - e.
g. in a zoom-like (even audio-only) way, such that you could go to a
website (or something like that) and hum or sing into it?
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed; if you do read the
newspaper you are misinformed. - Mark Twain

On 28/03/2022 20:03, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> On 28-Mar-22 9:16, Mike Ruddock wrote:
>> The app sometimes offers to play you the whole piece. I haven't tried
>> it with pieces whistled or hummed . . .
>
> That last bit is what I need.
>
> When I find myself whistling/humming/ti-tum ti-tum/La la laring (etc.)
> some stuck tune which I know very well, but cannot for the life of me
> remember its title...
>

There is a shop in Reading on Friar Street called Hickies. It sells
musical instruments, but in addition used to have a record department
(with a frontage on Queen Victoria Street) wherein you could hum any
classical music to the staff (local staff for local people) who would
then identify it and find the recording. I think they slept in coffins
in the basement; I have no proof of that, but if you failed to buy the
record, they would drive a stake through your heart. Or so I heard.

--
Cheers
Clive

Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
> On 28-Mar-22 9:16, Mike Ruddock wrote:
>> The app sometimes offers to play you the whole piece. I haven't tried it
>> with pieces whistled or hummed . . .
>
> That last bit is what I need.
>
> When I find myself whistling/humming/ti-tum ti-tum/La la laring (etc.)
> some stuck tune which I know very well, but cannot for the life of me
> remember its title...
>

Just look in the mirror - it’s on the tip of your tongue.

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

Clive Arthur <clive@nowaytoday.co.uk> wrote:
> On 28/03/2022 20:03, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>> On 28-Mar-22 9:16, Mike Ruddock wrote:
>>> The app sometimes offers to play you the whole piece. I haven't tried
>>> it with pieces whistled or hummed . . .
>>
>> That last bit is what I need.
>>
>> When I find myself whistling/humming/ti-tum ti-tum/La la laring (etc.)
>> some stuck tune which I know very well, but cannot for the life of me
>> remember its title...
>>
>
> There is a shop in Reading on Friar Street called Hickies. It sells
> musical instruments, but in addition used to have a record department
> (with a frontage on Queen Victoria Street) wherein you could hum any
> classical music to the staff (local staff for local people) who would
> then identify it and find the recording. I think they slept in coffins
> in the basement; I have no proof of that, but if you failed to buy the
> record, they would drive a stake through your heart. Or so I heard.
>

I’ll carry some garlic with me if I need to go in there again then; it has
always seemed a little strange that the piano department was (may still be,
I haven’t looked recently) upstairs - and no lift and yes, they did have
grand pianos up there as I had occasion to record one for a record we made
with Davy Jones (late Monkee). Wassat? Oh! The record: When I look back on
Christmas, made to send out to members of his fan club in 1985/6.

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

On 28/03/2022 20:03, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> On 28-Mar-22 9:16, Mike Ruddock wrote:
>> The app sometimes offers to play you the whole piece. I haven't tried
>> it with pieces whistled or hummed . . .
>
> That last bit is what I need.
>
> When I find myself whistling/humming/ti-tum ti-tum/La la laring (etc.)
> some stuck tune which I know very well, but cannot for the life of me
> remember its title...
>

Well, I tried this on the hauntingly familiar music that plays when you
access the page for Robin's funeral. I knew it was called Pavane and was
French but couldn't immediately remember if it was Fauré or Ravel.
Shazam confidently asserted that it was written by someone called Paul
Anthony Adams (I mean, not even John or Adolphe) and available on some
compilation easy listening album from Apple Music. That's a bit of a
fail, I'd say.

--
Kate B

On 29/03/2022 08:22, Mike McMillan wrote:
> Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
>> On 28-Mar-22 9:16, Mike Ruddock wrote:
>>> The app sometimes offers to play you the whole piece. I haven't tried it
>>> with pieces whistled or hummed . . .
>>
>> That last bit is what I need.
>>
>> When I find myself whistling/humming/ti-tum ti-tum/La la laring (etc.)
>> some stuck tune which I know very well, but cannot for the life of me
>> remember its title...
>>
>
> Just look in the mirror - it’s on the tip of your tongue.
>

Are there many tunes called "saliva"?

john

On Mon, 28 Mar 2022 20:03:27 +0100, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> scrawled in
the dust...

>On 28-Mar-22 9:16, Mike Ruddock wrote:
>> The app sometimes offers to play you the whole piece. I haven't tried it
>> with pieces whistled or hummed . . .
>
>That last bit is what I need.
>
>When I find myself whistling/humming/ti-tum ti-tum/La la laring (etc.)
>some stuck tune which I know very well, but cannot for the life of me
>remember its title...

I have vague recollections of a website/app which would identify tunes if
you gave it a run of pitch changes - just up, repeat, or down - it didn't
care about intervals or rhythm.
Ah - this one does it on the Contour page
<https://www.musipedia.org/melodic_contour.html>
but also accepts hums, whistles or singing.

My internal whistling jukebox is still defaulting to 'poor, wandering one'
and when I notice I force it to wander off onto something else. Much of the
time I've no idea if my forced wander is original or another tune I've
heard somewhere, unless, like today, it's that very chromatic bit from
Carmen.

Drifting slightly, there is a very useful lyric hunting website for when
you remember some of the words but can't recall the title -
<https://www.lyrics.com>
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959

John Ashby <johnashby20@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 29/03/2022 08:22, Mike McMillan wrote:
>> Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
>>> On 28-Mar-22 9:16, Mike Ruddock wrote:
>>>> The app sometimes offers to play you the whole piece. I haven't tried it
>>>> with pieces whistled or hummed . . .
>>>
>>> That last bit is what I need.
>>>
>>> When I find myself whistling/humming/ti-tum ti-tum/La la laring (etc.)
>>> some stuck tune which I know very well, but cannot for the life of me
>>> remember its title...
>>>
>>
>> Just look in the mirror - it’s on the tip of your tongue.
>>
>
> Are there many tunes called "saliva"?
>
> john
>

I think ‘Spitting Image’ did one - however, their second album …

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Mar 2022 20:03:27 +0100, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> scrawled in
> the dust...
>
>> On 28-Mar-22 9:16, Mike Ruddock wrote:
>>> The app sometimes offers to play you the whole piece. I haven't tried it
>>> with pieces whistled or hummed . . .
>>
>> That last bit is what I need.
>>
>> When I find myself whistling/humming/ti-tum ti-tum/La la laring (etc.)
>> some stuck tune which I know very well, but cannot for the life of me
>> remember its title...
>
> I have vague recollections of a website/app which would identify tunes if
> you gave it a run of pitch changes - just up, repeat, or down - it didn't
> care about intervals or rhythm.
> Ah - this one does it on the Contour page
> <https://www.musipedia.org/melodic_contour.html>
> but also accepts hums, whistles or singing.
>
>
> My internal whistling jukebox is still defaulting to 'poor, wandering one'
> and when I notice I force it to wander off onto something else. Much of the
> time I've no idea if my forced wander is original or another tune I've
> heard somewhere, unless, like today, it's that very chromatic bit from
> Carmen.
>
> Drifting slightly, there is a very useful lyric hunting website for when
> you remember some of the words but can't recall the title -
> <https://www.lyrics.com>

Oh, you mean like ‘Larry the lamb was born to be King’ (Skye boat song)?

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

On 29-Mar-22 9:06, John Ashby wrote:
> On 29/03/2022 08:22, Mike McMillan wrote:
>> Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
>>> On 28-Mar-22 9:16, Mike Ruddock wrote:
>>>> The app sometimes offers to play you the whole piece. I haven't
>>>> tried it
>>>> with pieces whistled or hummed . . .
>>>
>>> That last bit is what I need.
>>>
>>> When I find myself whistling/humming/ti-tum ti-tum/La la laring (etc.)
>>> some stuck tune which I know very well, but cannot for the life of me
>>> remember its title...
>>>
>>
>> Just look in the mirror - it’s on the tip of your tongue.
>>
>
> Are there many tunes called "saliva"?

No, not as a drool.

--
Sam Plusnet

Clive Arthur <clive@nowaytoday.co.uk> wrote:
> On 28/03/2022 20:03, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>> On 28-Mar-22 9:16, Mike Ruddock wrote:
>>> The app sometimes offers to play you the whole piece. I haven't tried
>>> it with pieces whistled or hummed . . .
>>
>> That last bit is what I need.
>>
>> When I find myself whistling/humming/ti-tum ti-tum/La la laring (etc.)
>> some stuck tune which I know very well, but cannot for the life of me
>> remember its title...
>>
>
> There is a shop in Reading on Friar Street called Hickies. It sells
> musical instruments, but in addition used to have a record department
> (with a frontage on Queen Victoria Street) wherein you could hum any
> classical music to the staff (local staff for local people) who would
> then identify it and find the recording. I think they slept in coffins
> in the basement; I have no proof of that, but if you failed to buy the
> record, they would drive a stake through your heart. Or so I heard.
>

Indeed, his name was Len (or Les). I can see his face now.

Sincerely Chris

Kate B <elvira@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> On 28/03/2022 20:03, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>> On 28-Mar-22 9:16, Mike Ruddock wrote:
>>> The app sometimes offers to play you the whole piece. I haven't tried
>>> it with pieces whistled or hummed . . .
>>
>> That last bit is what I need.
>>
>> When I find myself whistling/humming/ti-tum ti-tum/La la laring (etc.)
>> some stuck tune which I know very well, but cannot for the life of me
>> remember its title...
>>
>
> Well, I tried this on the hauntingly familiar music that plays when you
> access the page for Robin's funeral. I knew it was called Pavane and was
> French but couldn't immediately remember if it was Fauré or Ravel.
> Shazam confidently asserted that it was written by someone called Paul
> Anthony Adams (I mean, not even John or Adolphe) and available on some
> compilation easy listening album from Apple Music. That's a bit of a
> fail, I'd say.
>

I haven’t listened to that, it’ll be Faure and his dead Infanta.

sincerely Chris

On 28/03/2022 20:03, Sam Plusnet wrote:
> On 28-Mar-22 9:16, Mike Ruddock wrote:
>> The app sometimes offers to play you the whole piece. I haven't tried
>> it with pieces whistled or hummed . . .
>
> That last bit is what I need.
>
> When I find myself whistling/humming/ti-tum ti-tum/La la laring (etc.)
> some stuck tune which I know very well, but cannot for the life of me
> remember its title...

I used Shazam for a while and liked it, but I now use the Google version
because it seems quicker so it's better for catching fleeting snippets
on TV programmes and the like.

If I tap the microphone symbol on the Google app as though I were going
to ask it a normal question, at the bottom of the screen there is a
"Search for a song" button. If you play it the music it identifies it.

It's pretty reliable. I've just tried it on the Bach Before 7 piece on
Radio 3 and it identified not only the correct piece of Bach, but also
that it was Paul Tortelier playing it. I'm impressed.

It does OK on sung or hummed snippets but is less sure, giving a
percentage match.

Er...that's it.

--
Sid
(Make sure Matron is away when you reply)

Sid Nuncius <nuncius@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> On 28/03/2022 20:03, Sam Plusnet wrote:
>> On 28-Mar-22 9:16, Mike Ruddock wrote:
>>> The app sometimes offers to play you the whole piece. I haven't tried
>>> it with pieces whistled or hummed . . .
>>
>> That last bit is what I need.
>>
>> When I find myself whistling/humming/ti-tum ti-tum/La la laring (etc.)
>> some stuck tune which I know very well, but cannot for the life of me
>> remember its title...
>
> I used Shazam for a while and liked it, but I now use the Google version
> because it seems quicker so it's better for catching fleeting snippets
> on TV programmes and the like.
>
> If I tap the microphone symbol on the Google app as though I were going
> to ask it a normal question, at the bottom of the screen there is a
> "Search for a song" button. If you play it the music it identifies it.
>
> It's pretty reliable. I've just tried it on the Bach Before 7 piece on
> Radio 3 and it identified not only the correct piece of Bach, but also
> that it was Paul Tortelier playing it. I'm impressed.
>
Berloimy!!

Sincerely Chris

On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 13:54:35 -0000 (UTC), Chris
<chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> scrawled in the dust...

>Sid Nuncius <nuncius@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>> If I tap the microphone symbol on the Google app as though I were going
>> to ask it a normal question, at the bottom of the screen there is a
>> "Search for a song" button. If you play it the music it identifies it.
>>
>> It's pretty reliable. I've just tried it on the Bach Before 7 piece on
>> Radio 3 and it identified not only the correct piece of Bach, but also
>> that it was Paul Tortelier playing it. I'm impressed.
>>
>Berloimy!!

Isn't he the chap who hums when he plays? I think I might have got that
one.
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959

Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 13:54:35 -0000 (UTC), Chris
> <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> scrawled in the dust...
>
>> Sid Nuncius <nuncius@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>> If I tap the microphone symbol on the Google app as though I were going
>>> to ask it a normal question, at the bottom of the screen there is a
>>> "Search for a song" button. If you play it the music it identifies it.
>>>
>>> It's pretty reliable. I've just tried it on the Bach Before 7 piece on
>>> Radio 3 and it identified not only the correct piece of Bach, but also
>>> that it was Paul Tortelier playing it. I'm impressed.
>>>
>> Berloimy!!
>
> Isn't he the chap who hums when he plays? I think I might have got that
> one.

The famous (infamous) pianist for that was Glenn Gould, reading the memoirs
of John Culshaw (recording engineer and producer - not impersonator ) who
had the ‘pleasure’ of working with Glenn, he used to try all manner of
tricks to reduce the vocal contributions.

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 14:43:22 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
<toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> scrawled in the dust...

>Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 13:54:35 -0000 (UTC), Chris
>> <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> scrawled in the dust...
>>
>>> Sid Nuncius <nuncius@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>> If I tap the microphone symbol on the Google app as though I were going
>>>> to ask it a normal question, at the bottom of the screen there is a
>>>> "Search for a song" button. If you play it the music it identifies it.
>>>>
>>>> It's pretty reliable. I've just tried it on the Bach Before 7 piece on
>>>> Radio 3 and it identified not only the correct piece of Bach, but also
>>>> that it was Paul Tortelier playing it. I'm impressed.
>>>>
>>> Berloimy!!
>>
>> Isn't he the chap who hums when he plays? I think I might have got that
>> one.
>
>The famous (infamous) pianist for that was Glenn Gould, reading the memoirs
>of John Culshaw (recording engineer and producer - not impersonator ) who
>had the ‘pleasure’ of working with Glenn, he used to try all manner of
>tricks to reduce the vocal contributions.

Oh, I thought it was the cellist, my father enjoyed listening to both.
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959

On 30/03/2022 15:28, Penny wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 13:54:35 -0000 (UTC), Chris
> <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> scrawled in the dust...
>
>> Sid Nuncius <nuncius@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>> If I tap the microphone symbol on the Google app as though I were going
>>> to ask it a normal question, at the bottom of the screen there is a
>>> "Search for a song" button. If you play it the music it identifies it.
>>>
>>> It's pretty reliable. I've just tried it on the Bach Before 7 piece on
>>> Radio 3 and it identified not only the correct piece of Bach, but also
>>> that it was Paul Tortelier playing it. I'm impressed.
>>>
>> Berloimy!!
>
> Isn't he the chap who hums when he plays? I think I might have got that
> one.

More notoriously Glenn Gould. I won't swear that Tortelier didn't do it,
but it's not what he was famous for.

My favourite Tortelier remark was on the Authentic Performance movement
along the lines of "They must have the baroque instruments, the baroque
bows, the baroque music stands, the baroque microphones."

john

On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:19:40 +0100, John Ashby <johnashby20@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On 30/03/2022 15:28, Penny wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 13:54:35 -0000 (UTC), Chris
>> <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> scrawled in the dust...
>>
>>> Sid Nuncius <nuncius@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>> If I tap the microphone symbol on the Google app as though I were going
>>>> to ask it a normal question, at the bottom of the screen there is a
>>>> "Search for a song" button. If you play it the music it identifies it.
>>>>
>>>> It's pretty reliable. I've just tried it on the Bach Before 7 piece on
>>>> Radio 3 and it identified not only the correct piece of Bach, but also
>>>> that it was Paul Tortelier playing it. I'm impressed.
>>>>
>>> Berloimy!!
>>
>> Isn't he the chap who hums when he plays? I think I might have got that
>> one.
>
>More notoriously Glenn Gould. I won't swear that Tortelier didn't do it,
>but it's not what he was famous for.
>
>My favourite Tortelier remark was on the Authentic Performance movement
>along the lines of "They must have the baroque instruments, the baroque
>bows, the baroque music stands, the baroque microphones."
>
I know what you mean. In the past I built a few early instruments -
mainly to find out in a practical way what made them different from
the instruments we make today - and in my opinion they do feel and
play and respond differently from their modern counterparts so I think
the authentic instrument movement does have a point. But having
attended quite a few early music concerts - in the interests of
research, of course, I am left wondering how some of the musicians
manage to hold their playing postures when they are obviously so much
up their own a***s.

Nick

On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 14:43:22 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan
<toodle.pip1@virginmedia.com> wrote:

>Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 13:54:35 -0000 (UTC), Chris
>> <chris.mcmillan@ntlworld.com> scrawled in the dust...
>>
>>> Sid Nuncius <nuncius@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>> If I tap the microphone symbol on the Google app as though I were going
>>>> to ask it a normal question, at the bottom of the screen there is a
>>>> "Search for a song" button. If you play it the music it identifies it.
>>>>
>>>> It's pretty reliable. I've just tried it on the Bach Before 7 piece on
>>>> Radio 3 and it identified not only the correct piece of Bach, but also
>>>> that it was Paul Tortelier playing it. I'm impressed.
>>>>
>>> Berloimy!!
>>
>> Isn't he the chap who hums when he plays? I think I might have got that
>> one.
>
>The famous (infamous) pianist for that was Glenn Gould, reading the memoirs
>of John Culshaw (recording engineer and producer - not impersonator ) who
>had the ‘pleasure’ of working with Glenn, he used to try all manner of
>tricks to reduce the vocal contributions.

Talking of recording engineers, Mike, are you listening to the series
currently on Radio 4 Extra - The Changing Sound Of Radio
<https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000g3y4> ?

Nothing new to surprise you, Mike, but I think it's a beautifully made
series. Episode 2 is coming up in about fifteen minutes.

Nick