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* Selling $2.00 coins?Peter Jason
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 by: Peter Jason - Sat, 3 Sep 2022 01:27 UTC

The Balinese like these to convert to trinkets, they looking like
gold.

Is this illegal because in selling one can double (at least) one's
money?

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From: max...@val.morgan (Max)
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Subject: Re: Selling $2.00 coins?
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 by: Max - Sat, 3 Sep 2022 02:18 UTC

On 3/09/2022 11:27 am, Peter Jason wrote:
> The Balinese like these to convert to trinkets, they looking like
> gold.
>
> Is this illegal because in selling one can double (at least) one's
> money?
>
>

I don't see how it could be illegal. It is essentially currency exchange.

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From: rod.spee...@gmail.com (Rod Speed)
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Subject: Re: Selling $2.00 coins?
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 by: Rod Speed - Sat, 3 Sep 2022 02:32 UTC

Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

> The Balinese like these to convert to trinkets, they looking like
> gold.

> Is this illegal because in selling one can double (at least) one's
> money?

Yes it is illegal but there is no chance of getting caught.

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From: rod.spee...@gmail.com (Rod Speed)
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Subject: Re: Selling $2.00 coins?
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 by: Rod Speed - Sat, 3 Sep 2022 02:34 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Peter Jason wrote

>> The Balinese like these to convert to trinkets, they looking like
>> gold.

>> Is this illegal because in selling one can double (at least) one's
>> money?

> I don't see how it could be illegal.

It is anyway.

> It is essentially currency exchange.

Nope, dope, because the coins aren't used as currency.

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 by: Max - Sat, 3 Sep 2022 02:56 UTC

On 3/09/2022 12:34 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>> Peter Jason wrote
>
>>> The Balinese like these to convert to trinkets, they looking like
>>> gold.
>
>>>  Is this illegal because in selling one can double (at least) one's
>>> money?
>
>> I don't see how it could be illegal.
>
> It is anyway.
>
>> It is essentially currency  exchange.
>
> Nope, dope, because the coins aren't used as currency.

It might be illegal for the buyer, but not for the seller. He can just
say that he was simply selling currency.

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 by: Rod Speed - Sat, 3 Sep 2022 03:59 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>> Peter Jason wrote

>>>> The Balinese like these to convert to trinkets, they looking like
>>>> gold.

>>>> Is this illegal because in selling one can double (at least) one's
>>>> money?

>>> I don't see how it could be illegal.

>> It is anyway.

>>> It is essentially currency exchange.

>> Nope, dope, because the coins aren't used as currency.

> It might be illegal for the buyer, but not for the seller.

Wrong, the seller knows what will happen to the coins.

> He can just say that he was simply selling currency.

And only a fool like you would believe that.

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 by: Sylvia Else - Sat, 3 Sep 2022 14:25 UTC

On 03-Sept-22 11:27 am, Peter Jason wrote:
> The Balinese like these to convert to trinkets, they looking like
> gold.
>
> Is this illegal because in selling one can double (at least) one's
> money?
>
>

Unless the Balinese are coming to Australia to do their work, they're
OK, and so are you for selling it to them.

But don't buy one of the trinkets and bring it back - that can get you
into deep do.

If there were so much to be made, I'd have thought the Balinese would be
coming to Australia, and returning with sacks of coins.

Sylvia.

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 by: Rod Speed - Sat, 3 Sep 2022 18:39 UTC

Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote
> Peter Jason wrote

>> The Balinese like these to convert to trinkets, they looking like
>> gold.

>> Is this illegal because in selling one can double (at least) one's
>> money?

> Unless the Balinese are coming to Australia to do their work, they're OK,

Yes.

> and so are you for selling it to them.

Nope.

> But don't buy one of the trinkets and bring it back - that can get you
> into deep do.

Nope.

> If there were so much to be made, I'd have thought the Balinese would be
> coming to Australia, and returning with sacks of coins.

More fool you.

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 by: Sylvia Else - Sun, 4 Sep 2022 01:01 UTC

On 04-Sept-22 4:39 am, Rod Speed wrote:
> Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote
>> Peter Jason wrote
>
>>> The Balinese like these to convert to trinkets, they looking like
>>> gold.
>
>>>  Is this illegal because in selling one can double (at least) one's
>>> money?
>
>> Unless the Balinese are coming to Australia to do their work, they're OK,
>
> Yes.
>
>> and so are you for selling it to them.
>
> Nope.

How do you figure that?

>
>> But don't buy one of the trinkets and bring it back - that can get you
>> into deep do.
>
> Nope.

You're right - I misread two words.

http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/legis/cth/num_act/ca1981181/s18.html

Though bringing in many such coins could be an issue.

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 by: Rod Speed - Sun, 4 Sep 2022 03:15 UTC

Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote
>>> Peter Jason wrote

>>>> The Balinese like these to convert to trinkets, they looking like
>>>> gold.

>>>> Is this illegal because in selling one can double (at least) one's
>>>> money?

>>> Unless the Balinese are coming to Australia to do their work, they're
>>> OK,

>> Yes.

>>> and so are you for selling it to them.

>> Nope.

> How do you figure that?

The seller is involved in a crime.

>>> But don't buy one of the trinkets and bring it back - that can get you
>>> into deep do.

>> Nope.

> You're right - I misread two words.

> http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/legis/cth/num_act/ca1981181/s18.html

> Though bringing in many such coins could be an issue.

Would be in fact if they catch you doing it and it isnt just many either.

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 by: Sylvia Else - Sun, 4 Sep 2022 14:03 UTC

On 04-Sept-22 1:15 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote
>>>> Peter Jason wrote
>
>>>>> The Balinese like these to convert to trinkets, they looking like
>>>>> gold.
>
>>>>>  Is this illegal because in selling one can double (at least) one's
>>>>> money?
>
>>>> Unless the Balinese are coming to Australia to do their work,
>>>> they're OK,
>
>>>  Yes.
>
>>>> and so are you for selling it to them.
>
>>>  Nope.
>
>> How do you figure that?
>
> The seller is involved in a crime.
>
>>>> But don't buy one of the trinkets and bring it back - that can get
>>>> you into deep do.
>
>>>  Nope.
>
>> You're right - I misread two words.
>
>> http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/legis/cth/num_act/ca1981181/s18.html
>>
>
>> Though bringing in many such coins could be an issue.
>
> Would be in fact if they catch you doing it and it isnt just many either.

If you bring in one, and keep your mouth shut, they'll have difficult
proving an intent to sell.

Bring in a thousand, and keeping your mouth shut may not help so much.

Sylvia.

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 by: Rod Speed - Sun, 4 Sep 2022 16:37 UTC

Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote
>>>>> Peter Jason wrote

>>>>>> The Balinese like these to convert to trinkets, they looking like
>>>>>> gold.
>>
>>>>>> Is this illegal because in selling one can double (at least) one's
>>>>>> money?
>>
>>>>> Unless the Balinese are coming to Australia to do their work,
>>>>> they're OK,
>>
>>>> Yes.
>>
>>>>> and so are you for selling it to them.
>>
>>>> Nope.
>>
>>> How do you figure that?
>> The seller is involved in a crime.
>>
>>>>> But don't buy one of the trinkets and bring it back - that can get
>>>>> you into deep do.
>>
>>>> Nope.
>>
>>> You're right - I misread two words.
>>
>>> http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/legis/cth/num_act/ca1981181/s18.html
>>
>>> Though bringing in many such coins could be an issue.
>> Would be in fact if they catch you doing it and it isnt just many
>> either.
>
> If you bring in one, and keep your mouth shut, they'll have difficult
> proving an intent to sell.

The crime isn't intent to sell.

And they wouldn't bother to prove anything, at most
just wag their finger and maybe confiscate it.

> Bring in a thousand, and keeping your mouth shut may not help so much.

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