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* Re: Optus swiss-cheese firewallMax
+* Re: Optus swiss-cheese firewallRod Speed
|+* Re: Optus swiss-cheese firewallMax
||+- Re: Optus swiss-cheese firewallYosemite Sam
||`* Re: Optus swiss-cheese firewallRod Speed
|| `* Re: Optus swiss-cheese firewallMax
||  `- Re: Optus swiss-cheese firewallRod Speed
|`* Re: Optus swiss-cheese firewallPeter Jason
| +* Re: Optus swiss-cheese firewallYosemite Sam
| |`* Re: Optus swiss-cheese firewallRod Speed
| | `* Re: Optus swiss-cheese firewallYosemite Sam
| |  `- Re: Optus swiss-cheese firewallRod Speed
| +- Re: Optus swiss-cheese firewallRod Speed
| `* Re: Optus swiss-cheese firewallPetzl
|  `* Re: Optus swiss-cheese firewallYosemite Sam
|   `- Re: Optus swiss-cheese firewallNoodle
`* Re: Optus swiss-cheese firewallSylvia Else
 +* Re: Optus swiss-cheese firewallMax
 |+- Re: Optus swiss-cheese firewallRod Speed
 |`* Re: Optus swiss-cheese firewallSylvia Else
 | `* Re: Optus swiss-cheese firewallMax
 |  +- Re: Optus swiss-cheese firewallSylvia Else
 |  `* Re: Optus swiss-cheese firewallRod Speed
 |   `- Re: Optus swiss-cheese firewalljaouad zarrabi
 `* Re: Optus swiss-cheese firewallYosemite Sam
  `* Re: Optus swiss-cheese firewallYosemite Sam
   `- Re: Optus swiss-cheese firewallPetzl

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Re: Optus swiss-cheese firewall

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Subject: Re: Optus swiss-cheese firewall
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 by: Max - Sat, 24 Sep 2022 08:57 UTC

On 23/09/2022 8:39 am, Donald J. Olf wrote:
> Phucking useless.

I am one of the affected customers and I received an email from Optus
saying that my data was breached.

What is the chance I could/will get compensation for this?

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 by: Rod Speed - Sat, 24 Sep 2022 10:01 UTC

On Sat, 24 Sep 2022 18:57:19 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:

> On 23/09/2022 8:39 am, Donald J. Olf wrote:
>> Phucking useless.
>
> I am one of the affected customers and I received an email from Optus
> saying that my data was breached.
>
> What is the chance I could/will get compensation for this?

None, zero, nada, no chance, fuck all, lying welfare bludger.

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 by: Max - Sun, 25 Sep 2022 00:29 UTC

On 24/09/2022 8:01 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Sep 2022 18:57:19 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:
>
>> On 23/09/2022 8:39 am, Donald J. Olf wrote:
>>> Phucking useless.
>>
>> I am one of the affected customers and I received an email from Optus
>> saying that my data was breached.
>>
>> What is the chance I could/will get compensation for this?
>
> None, zero, nada, no chance, fuck all, lying welfare bludger.

Surely if Optus allowed the data breach to happen, then they should be
liable for any problems it causes me.

If due to the data breach, I am a victim of identity theft/fraud, then
Optus should be help liable.

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 by: Yosemite Sam - Sat, 24 Sep 2022 16:59 UTC

On 25/09/2022 10:29 am, Max wrote:
> On 24/09/2022 8:01 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Sep 2022 18:57:19 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:
>>
>>> On 23/09/2022 8:39 am, Donald J. Olf wrote:
>>>> Phucking useless.
>>>
>>> I am one of the affected customers and I received an email from
>>> Optus saying that my data was breached.
>>>
>>> What is the chance I could/will get compensation for this?
>>
>> None, zero, nada, no chance, fuck all, lying welfare bludger.
>
> Surely if Optus allowed the data breach to happen, then they should be
> liable for any problems it causes me.
>
> If due to the data breach, I am a victim of identity theft/fraud, then
> Optus should be held liable.

I think their TOS would prevent that

--
https://tinyurl.com/Yosemite-Sam

FUCK PUTIN!!

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 by: Rod Speed - Sun, 25 Sep 2022 03:10 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>> Donald J. Olf wrote

>>>> Phucking useless.

>>> I am one of the affected customers and I received an email from Optus
>>> saying that my data was breached.

>>> What is the chance I could/will get compensation for this?

>> None, zero, nada, no chance, fuck all, lying welfare bludger.

> Surely if Optus allowed the data breach to happen,

You don't know that they did.

> then they should be liable for any problems it causes me.

Nope, bludger.

> If due to the data breach, I am a victim of identity theft/fraud, then
> Optus should be help liable.

Nope, bludger. It is trivial to ensure you can't be the 'victim' of
identity theft/fraud.

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 by: Max - Sun, 25 Sep 2022 03:48 UTC

On 25/09/2022 1:10 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>> Donald J. Olf wrote
>
>>>>> Phucking useless.
>
>>>> I am one of the affected customers and I received an email from
>>>> Optus saying that my data was breached.
>
>>>> What is the chance I could/will get compensation for this?
>
>>>  None, zero, nada, no chance, fuck all, lying welfare bludger.
>
>> Surely if Optus allowed the data breach to happen,
>
> You don't know that they did.
>
>> then  they should be  liable for any problems it causes me.
>
> Nope, bludger.
>
>> If due to the data breach, I am a victim of identity theft/fraud, then
>> Optus should be help liable.
>
> Nope, bludger. It is trivial to ensure you can't be the 'victim' of
> identity theft/fraud.

There is no way to avoid it if the scammers have your details plus
drivers licence number.

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 by: Rod Speed - Sun, 25 Sep 2022 04:22 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>> Donald J. Olf wrote
>>
>>>>>> Phucking useless.
>>
>>>>> I am one of the affected customers and I received an email from
>>>>> Optus saying that my data was breached.
>>
>>>>> What is the chance I could/will get compensation for this?
>>
>>>> None, zero, nada, no chance, fuck all, lying welfare bludger.
>>
>>> Surely if Optus allowed the data breach to happen,
>> You don't know that they did.
>>
>>> then they should be liable for any problems it causes me.
>> Nope, bludger.
>>
>>> If due to the data breach, I am a victim of identity theft/fraud, then
>>> Optus should be help liable.

>> Nope, bludger. It is trivial to ensure you can't be the 'victim' of
>> identity theft/fraud.
>
> There is no way to avoid it if the scammers have your details plus
> drivers licence number.

Wrong, as always.

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 by: Sylvia Else - Sun, 25 Sep 2022 04:56 UTC

On 24-Sept-22 6:57 pm, Max wrote:
> On 23/09/2022 8:39 am, Donald J. Olf wrote:
>> Phucking useless.
>
> I am one of the affected customers and I received an email from Optus
> saying that my data was breached.
>
> What is the chance I could/will get compensation for this?

Next to none.

You would have to show that you have suffered some compensatable loss.
Merely having your private information released is not sufficient.

I closed my Optus account when I had to move over to the NBN, because
Optus behaved like my nanny by blocking access to certain websites over
the NZ mass-murder event, even though they had no legal obligation to do so.

Sylvia.

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 by: Max - Sun, 25 Sep 2022 05:32 UTC

On 25/09/2022 2:56 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 24-Sept-22 6:57 pm, Max wrote:
>> On 23/09/2022 8:39 am, Donald J. Olf wrote:
>>> Phucking useless.
>>
>> I am one of the affected customers and I received an email from Optus
>> saying that my data was breached.
>>
>> What is the chance I could/will get compensation for this?
>
> Next to none.
>
> You would have to show that you have suffered some compensatable loss.
> Merely having your private information released is not sufficient.
>
> I closed my Optus account when I had to move over to the NBN, because
> Optus behaved like my nanny by blocking access to certain websites over
> the NZ mass-murder event, even though they had no legal obligation to do
> so.
>

If the breach caused me harm in some way, such as identity theft and
loss of my money, then wouldn't Optus be liable to compensate me?

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 by: Rod Speed - Sun, 25 Sep 2022 06:37 UTC

On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 15:32:44 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:

> On 25/09/2022 2:56 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 24-Sept-22 6:57 pm, Max wrote:
>>> On 23/09/2022 8:39 am, Donald J. Olf wrote:
>>>> Phucking useless.
>>>
>>> I am one of the affected customers and I received an email from Optus
>>> saying that my data was breached.
>>>
>>> What is the chance I could/will get compensation for this?
>> Next to none.
>> You would have to show that you have suffered some compensatable loss.
>> Merely having your private information released is not sufficient.
>> I closed my Optus account when I had to move over to the NBN, because
>> Optus behaved like my nanny by blocking access to certain websites over
>> the NZ mass-murder event, even though they had no legal obligation to
>> do so.
>>
>
> If the breach caused me harm in some way, such as identity theft and
> loss of my money, then wouldn't Optus be liable to compensate me?

Nope, dope.

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From: syl...@email.invalid (Sylvia Else)
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 by: Sylvia Else - Sun, 25 Sep 2022 09:14 UTC

On 25-Sept-22 3:32 pm, Max wrote:
> On 25/09/2022 2:56 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 24-Sept-22 6:57 pm, Max wrote:
>>> On 23/09/2022 8:39 am, Donald J. Olf wrote:
>>>> Phucking useless.
>>>
>>> I am one of the affected customers and I received an email from Optus
>>> saying that my data was breached.
>>>
>>> What is the chance I could/will get compensation for this?
>>
>> Next to none.
>>
>> You would have to show that you have suffered some compensatable loss.
>> Merely having your private information released is not sufficient.
>>
>> I closed my Optus account when I had to move over to the NBN, because
>> Optus behaved like my nanny by blocking access to certain websites
>> over the NZ mass-murder event, even though they had no legal
>> obligation to do so.
>>
>
> If the breach caused me harm in some way, such as identity theft and
> loss of my money, then wouldn't Optus be liable to compensate me?
>

It's rather rare that a loss that is demonstrably the result of identity
theft still accrues to the person whose identity was stolen (the
principal). Almost invariably it's the entity who accepted the false
evidence of identity who suffers the loss. This is what happens when a
criminal uses a stolen identity to defraud a bank by "stealing" from a
bank account. The principal is not really involved.

If you cannot show that the loss was, on balance of probabilities, the
result of identity theft, then you'd have no case anyway.

Sylvia.

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 by: Max - Sun, 25 Sep 2022 09:24 UTC

On 25/09/2022 7:14 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 25-Sept-22 3:32 pm, Max wrote:
>> On 25/09/2022 2:56 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>> On 24-Sept-22 6:57 pm, Max wrote:
>>>> On 23/09/2022 8:39 am, Donald J. Olf wrote:
>>>>> Phucking useless.
>>>>
>>>> I am one of the affected customers and I received an email from
>>>> Optus saying that my data was breached.
>>>>
>>>> What is the chance I could/will get compensation for this?
>>>
>>> Next to none.
>>>
>>> You would have to show that you have suffered some compensatable
>>> loss. Merely having your private information released is not sufficient.
>>>
>>> I closed my Optus account when I had to move over to the NBN, because
>>> Optus behaved like my nanny by blocking access to certain websites
>>> over the NZ mass-murder event, even though they had no legal
>>> obligation to do so.
>>>
>>
>> If the breach caused me harm in some way, such as identity theft and
>> loss of my money, then wouldn't Optus be liable to compensate me?
>>
>
> It's rather rare that a loss that is demonstrably the result of identity
> theft still accrues to the person whose identity was stolen (the
> principal). Almost invariably it's the entity who accepted the false
> evidence of identity who suffers the loss. This is what happens when a
> criminal uses a stolen identity to defraud a bank by "stealing" from a
> bank account. The principal is not really involved.
>

It's possible that the identity thief could apply for a loan in my name,
then default on the loan, and damage my credit rating.

> If you cannot show that the loss was, on balance of probabilities, the
> result of identity theft, then you'd have no case anyway.
>
> Sylvia.
>

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 by: Sylvia Else - Sun, 25 Sep 2022 10:19 UTC

On 25-Sept-22 7:24 pm, Max wrote:
> On 25/09/2022 7:14 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 25-Sept-22 3:32 pm, Max wrote:
>>> On 25/09/2022 2:56 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>> On 24-Sept-22 6:57 pm, Max wrote:
>>>>> On 23/09/2022 8:39 am, Donald J. Olf wrote:
>>>>>> Phucking useless.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am one of the affected customers and I received an email from
>>>>> Optus saying that my data was breached.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the chance I could/will get compensation for this?
>>>>
>>>> Next to none.
>>>>
>>>> You would have to show that you have suffered some compensatable
>>>> loss. Merely having your private information released is not
>>>> sufficient.
>>>>
>>>> I closed my Optus account when I had to move over to the NBN,
>>>> because Optus behaved like my nanny by blocking access to certain
>>>> websites over the NZ mass-murder event, even though they had no
>>>> legal obligation to do so.
>>>>
>>>
>>> If the breach caused me harm in some way, such as identity theft and
>>> loss of my money, then wouldn't Optus be liable to compensate me?
>>>
>>
>> It's rather rare that a loss that is demonstrably the result of
>> identity theft still accrues to the person whose identity was stolen
>> (the principal). Almost invariably it's the entity who accepted the
>> false evidence of identity who suffers the loss. This is what happens
>> when a criminal uses a stolen identity to defraud a bank by "stealing"
>> from a bank account. The principal is not really involved.
>>
>
> It's possible that the identity thief could apply for a loan in my name,
> then default on the loan, and damage my credit rating.
>

Your credit rating details would be corrected once the identity theft
issue has been addressed. Rating agencies cannot continue to give out
incorrect information, or they'll find themselves sued for defamation.

Sylvia.

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 by: Rod Speed - Sun, 25 Sep 2022 17:05 UTC

On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 19:24:50 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:

> On 25/09/2022 7:14 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 25-Sept-22 3:32 pm, Max wrote:
>>> On 25/09/2022 2:56 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>> On 24-Sept-22 6:57 pm, Max wrote:
>>>>> On 23/09/2022 8:39 am, Donald J. Olf wrote:
>>>>>> Phucking useless.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am one of the affected customers and I received an email from
>>>>> Optus saying that my data was breached.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the chance I could/will get compensation for this?
>>>>
>>>> Next to none.
>>>>
>>>> You would have to show that you have suffered some compensatable
>>>> loss. Merely having your private information released is not
>>>> sufficient.
>>>>
>>>> I closed my Optus account when I had to move over to the NBN, because
>>>> Optus behaved like my nanny by blocking access to certain websites
>>>> over the NZ mass-murder event, even though they had no legal
>>>> obligation to do so.
>>>>
>>>
>>> If the breach caused me harm in some way, such as identity theft and
>>> loss of my money, then wouldn't Optus be liable to compensate me?
>>>
>> It's rather rare that a loss that is demonstrably the result of
>> identity theft still accrues to the person whose identity was stolen
>> (the principal). Almost invariably it's the entity who accepted the
>> false evidence of identity who suffers the loss. This is what happens
>> when a criminal uses a stolen identity to defraud a bank by "stealing"
>> from a bank account. The principal is not really involved.
>>
>
> It's possible that the identity thief could apply for a loan in my name,
> then default on the loan, and damage my credit rating.

Trivial to fix the credit rating with such a well known breach.

>> If you cannot show that the loss was, on balance of probabilities, the
>> result of identity theft, then you'd have no case anyway.

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 by: jaouad zarrabi - Sun, 25 Sep 2022 22:28 UTC

El domingo, 25 de septiembre de 2022 a las 19:05:49 UTC+2, Rod Speed escribió:
> On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 19:24:50 +1000, Max <m...@val.morgan> wrote:
>
> > On 25/09/2022 7:14 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
> >> On 25-Sept-22 3:32 pm, Max wrote:
> >>> On 25/09/2022 2:56 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
> >>>> On 24-Sept-22 6:57 pm, Max wrote:
> >>>>> On 23/09/2022 8:39 am, Donald J. Olf wrote:
> >>>>>> Phucking useless.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I am one of the affected customers and I received an email from
> >>>>> Optus saying that my data was breached.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What is the chance I could/will get compensation for this?
> >>>>
> >>>> Next to none.
> >>>>
> >>>> You would have to show that you have suffered some compensatable
> >>>> loss. Merely having your private information released is not
> >>>> sufficient.
> >>>>
> >>>> I closed my Optus account when I had to move over to the NBN, because
> >>>> Optus behaved like my nanny by blocking access to certain websites
> >>>> over the NZ mass-murder event, even though they had no legal
> >>>> obligation to do so.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> If the breach caused me harm in some way, such as identity theft and
> >>> loss of my money, then wouldn't Optus be liable to compensate me?
> >>>
> >> It's rather rare that a loss that is demonstrably the result of
> >> identity theft still accrues to the person whose identity was stolen
> >> (the principal). Almost invariably it's the entity who accepted the
> >> false evidence of identity who suffers the loss. This is what happens
> >> when a criminal uses a stolen identity to defraud a bank by "stealing"
> >> from a bank account. The principal is not really involved.
> >>
> >
> > It's possible that the identity thief could apply for a loan in my name,
> > then default on the loan, and damage my credit rating.
> Trivial to fix the credit rating with such a well known breach.
> >> If you cannot show that the loss was, on balance of probabilities, the
> >> result of identity theft, then you'd have no case anyway.
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 by: Yosemite Sam - Mon, 26 Sep 2022 05:42 UTC

On 25/09/2022 2:56 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 24-Sept-22 6:57 pm, Max wrote:
>> On 23/09/2022 8:39 am, Donald J. Olf wrote:
>>> Phucking useless.
>>
>> I am one of the affected customers and I received an email from Optus
>> saying that my data was breached.
>>
>> What is the chance I could/will get compensation for this?

that is currently the subject of discussion in the media

>
> Next to none.

not necessarily. class action has been mentioned. there have been
successful class actions against telcos for data breaches

>
> You would have to show that you have suffered some compensatable loss.
> Merely having your private information released is not sufficient.
>
> I closed my Optus account when I had to move over to the NBN, because
> Optus behaved like my nanny by blocking access to certain websites
> over the NZ mass-murder event, even though they had no legal
> obligation to do so.

the scammers probably have your info then

>
> Sylvia.
>
>
>
>
>

--
https://tinyurl.com/Yosemite-Sam

FUCK PUTIN!!

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 by: Yosemite Sam - Mon, 26 Sep 2022 07:24 UTC

On 26/09/2022 3:42 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 25/09/2022 2:56 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 24-Sept-22 6:57 pm, Max wrote:
>>> On 23/09/2022 8:39 am, Donald J. Olf wrote:
>>>> Phucking useless.
>>>
>>> I am one of the affected customers and I received an email from
>>> Optus saying that my data was breached.
>>>
>>> What is the chance I could/will get compensation for this?
>
>
> that is currently the subject of discussion in the media
>
>
>>
>> Next to none.
>
>
> not necessarily. class action has been mentioned. there have been
> successful class actions against telcos for data breaches
>

Slater and Gordon are currently evaluating a class action lawsuite

>
>>
>> You would have to show that you have suffered some compensatable
>> loss. Merely having your private information released is not sufficient.
>>
>> I closed my Optus account when I had to move over to the NBN, because
>> Optus behaved like my nanny by blocking access to certain websites
>> over the NZ mass-murder event, even though they had no legal
>> obligation to do so.
>
>
> the scammers probably have your info then
>
>
>>
>> Sylvia.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

--
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 by: Petzl - Mon, 26 Sep 2022 12:32 UTC

On Mon, 26 Sep 2022 17:24:12 +1000, Yosemite Sam <felix@goaway.com>
wrote:

>On 26/09/2022 3:42 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
>> On 25/09/2022 2:56 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>> On 24-Sept-22 6:57 pm, Max wrote:
>>>> On 23/09/2022 8:39 am, Donald J. Olf wrote:
>>>>> Phucking useless.
>>>>
>>>> I am one of the affected customers and I received an email from
>>>> Optus saying that my data was breached.
>>>>
>>>> What is the chance I could/will get compensation for this?
>>
>>
>> that is currently the subject of discussion in the media
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Next to none.
>>
>>
>> not necessarily. class action has been mentioned. there have been
>> successful class actions against telcos for data breaches
>>
>
>Slater and Gordon are currently evaluating a class action lawsuite
>
The information gathered was what the government required
The Telecommunications Act 1979 requires companies like Optus in
Australia to keep some customer data for at least two years after the
account has closed.
--
Petzl
Good lawyers know the law
Great lawyers know the judge

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 by: Peter Jason - Mon, 26 Sep 2022 20:45 UTC

On Sat, 24 Sep 2022 20:01:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 24 Sep 2022 18:57:19 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:
>
>> On 23/09/2022 8:39 am, Donald J. Olf wrote:
>>> Phucking useless.
>>
>> I am one of the affected customers and I received an email from Optus
>> saying that my data was breached.
>>
>> What is the chance I could/will get compensation for this?
>
>None, zero, nada, no chance, fuck all, lying welfare bludger.

Can Optus blame the whole fiasco on a "disgruntled employee"?
Would this fly?

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 by: Yosemite Sam - Mon, 26 Sep 2022 21:55 UTC

On 27/09/2022 6:45 am, Peter Jason wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Sep 2022 20:01:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 24 Sep 2022 18:57:19 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:
>>
>>> On 23/09/2022 8:39 am, Donald J. Olf wrote:
>>>> Phucking useless.
>>> I am one of the affected customers and I received an email from Optus
>>> saying that my data was breached.
>>>
>>> What is the chance I could/will get compensation for this?
>> None, zero, nada, no chance, fuck all, lying welfare bludger.
> Can Optus blame the whole fiasco on a "disgruntled employee"?
> Would this fly?

no, because the way in which the data was accessed is already known, and
the federal police are currently working on finding the hackers

--
https://tinyurl.com/Yosemite-Sam

FUCK PUTIN!!

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 by: Rod Speed - Mon, 26 Sep 2022 21:55 UTC

Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>> Donald J. Olf wrote

>>>> Phucking useless.
>>>
>>> I am one of the affected customers and I received an email from Optus
>>> saying that my data was breached.
>>>
>>> What is the chance I could/will get compensation for this?
>>
>> None, zero, nada, no chance, fuck all, lying welfare bludger.
>
> Can Optus blame the whole fiasco on a "disgruntled employee"?

Its not at all clear how the breach was possible.

The Optarse CEO is refusing to provide any details
of how it happened, claiming that it isnt possible to
do that given that there is a possibility of criminal
charges against those involve in pinching the data.

If they do get charged, it will presumably be clearer how it happened.

> Would this fly?

Depends on how it happened.

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 by: Rod Speed - Mon, 26 Sep 2022 22:32 UTC

On Tue, 27 Sep 2022 07:55:06 +1000, Yosemite Sam <felix@goaway.com> wrote:

> On 27/09/2022 6:45 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Sep 2022 20:01:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 24 Sep 2022 18:57:19 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 23/09/2022 8:39 am, Donald J. Olf wrote:
>>>>> Phucking useless.
>>>> I am one of the affected customers and I received an email from Optus
>>>> saying that my data was breached.
>>>>
>>>> What is the chance I could/will get compensation for this?
>>> None, zero, nada, no chance, fuck all, lying welfare bludger.
>> Can Optus blame the whole fiasco on a "disgruntled employee"?
>> Would this fly?
>
>
> no, because the way in which the data was accessed is already known, and
> the federal police are currently working on finding the hackers

But it could be that it is in fact a disgruntled employee who told someone
else how to exploit a weakness or who introduced a weakness deliberately.

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 by: Yosemite Sam - Mon, 26 Sep 2022 22:40 UTC

On 27/09/2022 8:32 am, Rod Speed wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Sep 2022 07:55:06 +1000, Yosemite Sam <felix@goaway.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 27/09/2022 6:45 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>>> On Sat, 24 Sep 2022 20:01:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 24 Sep 2022 18:57:19 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 23/09/2022 8:39 am, Donald J. Olf wrote:
>>>>>> Phucking useless.
>>>>> I am one of the affected customers and I received an email from Optus
>>>>> saying that my data was breached.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the chance I could/will get compensation for this?
>>>> None, zero, nada, no chance, fuck all, lying welfare bludger.
>>> Can Optus blame the whole fiasco on a "disgruntled employee"?
>>> Would this fly?
>>
>>
>> no, because the way in which the data was accessed is already known,
>> and the federal police are currently working on finding the hackers
>
> But it could be that it is in fact a disgruntled employee who told
> someone
> else how to exploit a weakness or who introduced a weakness deliberately.

I suppose so. what was said on the news was that the data was not
adequately protected by security protocols

--
https://tinyurl.com/Yosemite-Sam

FUCK PUTIN!!

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 by: Petzl - Tue, 27 Sep 2022 00:41 UTC

On Tue, 27 Sep 2022 06:45:58 +1000, Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 24 Sep 2022 20:01:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
><rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 24 Sep 2022 18:57:19 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:
>>
>>> On 23/09/2022 8:39 am, Donald J. Olf wrote:
>>>> Phucking useless.
>>>
>>> I am one of the affected customers and I received an email from Optus
>>> saying that my data was breached.
>>>
>>> What is the chance I could/will get compensation for this?
>>
>>None, zero, nada, no chance, fuck all, lying welfare bludger.
>
>Can Optus blame the whole fiasco on a "disgruntled employee"?
>Would this fly?
>
Problem is in having 3rd worlders in cheap wage countries having
access to your data.
--
Petzl
Good lawyers know the law
Great lawyers know the judge

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 by: Rod Speed - Tue, 27 Sep 2022 01:47 UTC

On Tue, 27 Sep 2022 08:40:01 +1000, Yosemite Sam <felix@goaway.com> wrote:

> On 27/09/2022 8:32 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>> On Tue, 27 Sep 2022 07:55:06 +1000, Yosemite Sam <felix@goaway.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 27/09/2022 6:45 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 24 Sep 2022 20:01:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 24 Sep 2022 18:57:19 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 23/09/2022 8:39 am, Donald J. Olf wrote:
>>>>>>> Phucking useless.
>>>>>> I am one of the affected customers and I received an email from
>>>>>> Optus
>>>>>> saying that my data was breached.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is the chance I could/will get compensation for this?
>>>>> None, zero, nada, no chance, fuck all, lying welfare bludger.
>>>> Can Optus blame the whole fiasco on a "disgruntled employee"?
>>>> Would this fly?
>>>
>>>
>>> no, because the way in which the data was accessed is already known,
>>> and the federal police are currently working on finding the hackers
>>
>> But it could be that it is in fact a disgruntled employee who told
>> someone
>> else how to exploit a weakness or who introduced a weakness
>> deliberately.

> I suppose so. what was said on the news was that the data was not
> adequately protected by security protocols

Just because some fool journos claim something...


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