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* Personal hotspot hopelessChris
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 +* Re: Personal hotspot hopelessJaimie Vandenbergh
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 by: Chris - Tue, 5 Apr 2022 13:58 UTC

My MBP and iphone XR are literally sitting next to each other so why is it
every time I want to use my phone's hotspot I need to toggle the wifi on
the laptop 2-3 times before it registers the hotspot's existence? Then, why
does it still refuse to connect for another couple of attempts?

This should be seamless and immediate. It shouldn't randomly prioritise the
crappy hotel wifi which I've several times told it that it's not a
"preferred network". Grrr.

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 by: nospam - Tue, 5 Apr 2022 14:29 UTC

In article <t2hhui$cn7$1@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
wrote:

> My MBP and iphone XR are literally sitting next to each other so why is it
> every time I want to use my phone's hotspot I need to toggle the wifi on
> the laptop 2-3 times before it registers the hotspot's existence? Then, why
> does it still refuse to connect for another couple of attempts?
>
> This should be seamless and immediate. It shouldn't randomly prioritise the
> crappy hotel wifi which I've several times told it that it's not a
> "preferred network". Grrr.

is bluetooth enabled on both?

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 by: Jaimie Vandenbergh - Tue, 5 Apr 2022 14:53 UTC

On 5 Apr 2022 at 15:29:41 BST, "nospam" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <t2hhui$cn7$1@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> My MBP and iphone XR are literally sitting next to each other so why is it
>> every time I want to use my phone's hotspot I need to toggle the wifi on
>> the laptop 2-3 times before it registers the hotspot's existence? Then, why
>> does it still refuse to connect for another couple of attempts?
>>
>> This should be seamless and immediate. It shouldn't randomly prioritise the
>> crappy hotel wifi which I've several times told it that it's not a
>> "preferred network". Grrr.
>
> is bluetooth enabled on both?

Also both with the same Apple ID (not essential but helpful), and
neither on VPN?

Cheers - Jaimie

--
"Even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all"
-- Hypatia of Alexandria

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 by: Bob Campbell - Tue, 5 Apr 2022 15:24 UTC

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
> is bluetooth enabled on both?
>

Would that make a difference? I always do hotspot via the phone wi-fi. I
only have bluetooth on for headphones or speakers, etc.

BTW, I have no problems using the iPhone hotspot.

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 by: Jaimie Vandenbergh - Tue, 5 Apr 2022 15:36 UTC

On 5 Apr 2022 at 16:24:28 BST, "Bob Campbell" <nunya@none.none> wrote:

> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> is bluetooth enabled on both?
>>
>
> Would that make a difference? I always do hotspot via the phone wi-fi. I
> only have bluetooth on for headphones or speakers, etc.

Handoff negotiations are handled by a mix of different wireless methods,
bluetooth is often the way the Apple devices initiate something. If
you're expecting things to Just Work, enable bluetooth on everything you
want to be involved in that.

Cheers - Jaimie
--
The Daily Mail should be forced to print the words
'The Paper That Supported Hitler' on its masthead,
just so that there is something that's true on the
front page every day. -- Mark Thomas

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 by: nospam - Tue, 5 Apr 2022 15:38 UTC

In article <y-ydnXofZ--xwtH_nZ2dnUU7-RnNnZ2d@supernews.com>, Bob
Campbell <nunya@none.none> wrote:

> > is bluetooth enabled on both?
> >
>
> Would that make a difference?

yes.

> I always do hotspot via the phone wi-fi. I
> only have bluetooth on for headphones or speakers, etc.

the hotspot is via wifi.

bluetooth is used for configuration and other ancillary tasks.

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 by: Bob Campbell - Tue, 5 Apr 2022 15:40 UTC

Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
> On 5 Apr 2022 at 16:24:28 BST, "Bob Campbell" <nunya@none.none> wrote:
>
>> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> is bluetooth enabled on both?
>>>
>>
>> Would that make a difference? I always do hotspot via the phone wi-fi. I
>> only have bluetooth on for headphones or speakers, etc.
>
> Handoff negotiations are handled by a mix of different wireless methods,
> bluetooth is often the way the Apple devices initiate something. If
> you're expecting things to Just Work, enable bluetooth on everything you
> want to be involved in that.

Interesting. That never occurred to me. Thanks.

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 by: Chris - Wed, 6 Apr 2022 05:57 UTC

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <t2hhui$cn7$1@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> My MBP and iphone XR are literally sitting next to each other so why is it
>> every time I want to use my phone's hotspot I need to toggle the wifi on
>> the laptop 2-3 times before it registers the hotspot's existence? Then, why
>> does it still refuse to connect for another couple of attempts?
>>
>> This should be seamless and immediate. It shouldn't randomly prioritise the
>> crappy hotel wifi which I've several times told it that it's not a
>> "preferred network". Grrr.
>
> is bluetooth enabled on both?

yep

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 by: Chris - Wed, 6 Apr 2022 05:57 UTC

Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
> On 5 Apr 2022 at 15:29:41 BST, "nospam" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> In article <t2hhui$cn7$1@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> My MBP and iphone XR are literally sitting next to each other so why is it
>>> every time I want to use my phone's hotspot I need to toggle the wifi on
>>> the laptop 2-3 times before it registers the hotspot's existence? Then, why
>>> does it still refuse to connect for another couple of attempts?
>>>
>>> This should be seamless and immediate. It shouldn't randomly prioritise the
>>> crappy hotel wifi which I've several times told it that it's not a
>>> "preferred network". Grrr.
>>
>> is bluetooth enabled on both?
>
> Also both with the same Apple ID (not essential but helpful), and
> neither on VPN?

Not same ID but no VPN.

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 by: Ray - Wed, 6 Apr 2022 07:26 UTC

On 6 Apr 2022 at 06:57:33 BST, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> In article <t2hhui$cn7$1@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> My MBP and iphone XR are literally sitting next to each other so why is it
>>> every time I want to use my phone's hotspot I need to toggle the wifi on
>>> the laptop 2-3 times before it registers the hotspot's existence? Then, why
>>> does it still refuse to connect for another couple of attempts?
>>>
>>> This should be seamless and immediate. It shouldn't randomly prioritise the
>>> crappy hotel wifi which I've several times told it that it's not a
>>> "preferred network". Grrr.
>>
>> is bluetooth enabled on both?
>
> yep

Where is the iPhone in the list of preferred wifi networks, and is auto join
checked?

--
We walk in the footsteps of time

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 by: David Brooks - Wed, 6 Apr 2022 11:33 UTC

On 06/04/2022 08:26, Ray wrote:
> On 6 Apr 2022 at 06:57:33 BST, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> In article <t2hhui$cn7$1@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My MBP and iphone XR are literally sitting next to each other so why is it
>>>> every time I want to use my phone's hotspot I need to toggle the wifi on
>>>> the laptop 2-3 times before it registers the hotspot's existence? Then, why
>>>> does it still refuse to connect for another couple of attempts?
>>>>
>>>> This should be seamless and immediate. It shouldn't randomly prioritise the
>>>> crappy hotel wifi which I've several times told it that it's not a
>>>> "preferred network". Grrr.
>>>
>>> is bluetooth enabled on both?
>>
>> yep
>
> Where is the iPhone in the list of preferred wifi networks, and is auto join
> checked?

Try Settings > Personal Hotspot

HTH

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 by: Chris - Wed, 6 Apr 2022 13:27 UTC

Ray <amos-jones@outlook.com> wrote:
> On 6 Apr 2022 at 06:57:33 BST, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> In article <t2hhui$cn7$1@dont-email.me>, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My MBP and iphone XR are literally sitting next to each other so why is it
>>>> every time I want to use my phone's hotspot I need to toggle the wifi on
>>>> the laptop 2-3 times before it registers the hotspot's existence? Then, why
>>>> does it still refuse to connect for another couple of attempts?
>>>>
>>>> This should be seamless and immediate. It shouldn't randomly prioritise the
>>>> crappy hotel wifi which I've several times told it that it's not a
>>>> "preferred network". Grrr.
>>>
>>> is bluetooth enabled on both?
>>
>> yep
>
> Where is the iPhone in the list of preferred wifi networks, and is auto join
> checked?

It's perhaps a little way down, but none of the options are available and
autojoin is checked.

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