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Re: Illegal parking outside Scunthorpe school is 'accident waiting to happen

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 by: Mike Collins - Mon, 28 Mar 2022 09:42 UTC

On Monday, 28 March 2022 at 09:15:45 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> On 27/03/2022 16:26, Mike Collins wrote:
> > On Sunday, 27 March 2022 at 16:58:51 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Sunday, March 27, 2022 at 1:30:48 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:
>
> >>> So you are too old to drive.
>
> >> Who is that? I didn't know we had any very old posters in urc.
> >> Have they had to hand in their licence or something?
>
> > Spike said he was at school 70 years ago. At a minimum he needs to be re-tested.
> Like a cyclist, you mean?
>
>
> --
> Spike

No, cyclists like pedestrians and equestrians use the roads as a matter of right rather than under licence. Motorists are guests on roads paid for by others.

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 by: Spike - Mon, 28 Mar 2022 15:41 UTC

On 28/03/2022 09:42, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Monday, 28 March 2022 at 09:15:45 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>> On 27/03/2022 16:26, Mike Collins wrote:
>>> On Sunday, 27 March 2022 at 16:58:51 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, March 27, 2022 at 1:30:48 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

>>>>> So you are too old to drive.

>>>> Who is that? I didn't know we had any very old posters in urc.
>>>> Have they had to hand in their licence or something?

>>> Spike said he was at school 70 years ago. At a minimum he needs to be re-tested.

>> Like a cyclist, you mean?

> No, cyclists like pedestrians and equestrians use the roads as a matter of right rather than under licence. Motorists are guests on roads paid for by others.

Roads existed for millennia before the bicycle was invented. It's what
makes a mockery of the cyclists aim to 'reclaim the roads' - they can't
reclaim what they never had, it's a fairy-story.

Oh, BTW, when was this upper age limit for a diving licence brought in?
Or is it yet another fairy-story invention by the cyclists?

--
Spike

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 by: JNugent - Mon, 28 Mar 2022 17:14 UTC

On 28/03/2022 04:41 pm, Spike wrote:

> On 28/03/2022 09:42, Mike Collins wrote:
>> On Monday, 28 March 2022 at 09:15:45 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>> On 27/03/2022 16:26, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, 27 March 2022 at 16:58:51 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, March 27, 2022 at 1:30:48 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:
>
>>>>>> So you are too old to drive.
>
>>>>> Who is that? I didn't know we had any very old posters in urc.
>>>>> Have they had to hand in their licence or something?
>
>>>> Spike said he was at school 70 years ago. At a minimum he needs to be re-tested.
>
>>> Like a cyclist, you mean?
>
>> No, cyclists like pedestrians and equestrians use the roads as a matter of right rather than under licence. Motorists are guests on roads paid for by others.
>
> Roads existed for millennia before the bicycle was invented. It's what
> makes a mockery of the cyclists aim to 'reclaim the roads' - they can't
> reclaim what they never had, it's a fairy-story.

A fairy-cycle story.
>
> Oh, BTW, when was this upper age limit for a diving licence brought in?
> Or is it yet another fairy-story invention by the cyclists?

:-)

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 by: Mike Collins - Mon, 28 Mar 2022 18:27 UTC

On Monday, 28 March 2022 at 16:41:03 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> On 28/03/2022 09:42, Mike Collins wrote:
> > On Monday, 28 March 2022 at 09:15:45 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >> On 27/03/2022 16:26, Mike Collins wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, 27 March 2022 at 16:58:51 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> On Sunday, March 27, 2022 at 1:30:48 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:
>
> >>>>> So you are too old to drive.
>
> >>>> Who is that? I didn't know we had any very old posters in urc.
> >>>> Have they had to hand in their licence or something?
>
> >>> Spike said he was at school 70 years ago. At a minimum he needs to be re-tested.
>
> >> Like a cyclist, you mean?
> > No, cyclists like pedestrians and equestrians use the roads as a matter of right rather than under licence. Motorists are guests on roads paid for by others.
> Roads existed for millennia before the bicycle was invented. It's what
> makes a mockery of the cyclists aim to 'reclaim the roads' - they can't
> reclaim what they never had, it's a fairy-story.
>
> Oh, BTW, when was this upper age limit for a diving licence brought in?
> Or is it yet another fairy-story invention by the cyclists?
>
>
> --
> Spike

I don't know when it was brought in but UK driving licences expire on your 70th birthday.

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 by: JNugent - Mon, 28 Mar 2022 18:41 UTC

On 28/03/2022 07:27 pm, Mike Collins wrote:

> On Monday, 28 March 2022 at 16:41:03 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>> On 28/03/2022 09:42, Mike Collins wrote:
>>> On Monday, 28 March 2022 at 09:15:45 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>> On 27/03/2022 16:26, Mike Collins wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, 27 March 2022 at 16:58:51 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Sunday, March 27, 2022 at 1:30:48 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:
>
>>>>>>> So you are too old to drive.
>
>>>>>> Who is that? I didn't know we had any very old posters in urc.
>>>>>> Have they had to hand in their licence or something?
>
>>>>> Spike said he was at school 70 years ago. At a minimum he needs to be re-tested.
>
>>>> Like a cyclist, you mean?

>>> No, cyclists like pedestrians and equestrians use the roads as a matter of right rather than under licence. Motorists are guests on roads paid for by others.

>> Roads existed for millennia before the bicycle was invented. It's what
>> makes a mockery of the cyclists aim to 'reclaim the roads' - they can't
>> reclaim what they never had, it's a fairy-story.
>
>> Oh, BTW, when was this upper age limit for a diving licence brought in?
>> Or is it yet another fairy-story invention by the cyclists?

> I don't know when it was brought in but UK driving licences expire on your 70th birthday.

That was back in the 1970s, when the green paper DVLC licence was
introduced as a replacement for the red county or county borough licence.

The extension to 70th birthday was an advantage. Previously, a (red)
full licence lasted only three years, irrespective of the holder's age.

Today, a licence renewed at 70 or older still lasts three years.

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 by: Spike - Tue, 29 Mar 2022 07:54 UTC

On 28/03/2022 18:27, Mike Collins wrote:

>> Oh, BTW, when was this upper age limit for a diving licence brought in?
>> Or is it yet another fairy-story invention by the cyclists?

> I don't know when it was brought in but UK driving licences expire on your 70th birthday.

So there are no licensed drivers over 70?

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 by: Mike Collins - Tue, 29 Mar 2022 08:56 UTC

On Tuesday, 29 March 2022 at 08:54:03 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> On 28/03/2022 18:27, Mike Collins wrote:
>
> >> Oh, BTW, when was this upper age limit for a diving licence brought in?
> >> Or is it yet another fairy-story invention by the cyclists?
> > I don't know when it was brought in but UK driving licences expire on your 70th birthday.
> So there are no licensed drivers over 70?
>
> --
> Spike

Did I say that?

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 by: Spike - Tue, 29 Mar 2022 09:05 UTC

On 29/03/2022 08:56, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Tuesday, 29 March 2022 at 08:54:03 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>> On 28/03/2022 18:27, Mike Collins wrote:

>>>> Oh, BTW, when was this upper age limit for a diving licence brought in?
>>>> Or is it yet another fairy-story invention by the cyclists?

>>> I don't know when it was brought in but UK driving licences expire on your 70th birthday.

>> So there are no licensed drivers over 70?

> Did I say that?

It was your reply to the question "when was this upper age limit for a
diving licence brought in?"; but I suspect you responded to a different
and unasked question.

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 by: Spike - Tue, 29 Mar 2022 09:24 UTC

On 29/03/2022 09:07, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, March 28, 2022 at 7:27:19 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

>> I don't know when it was brought in but UK driving licences expire on your 70th birthday.

> Or if a medical official tells you not to drive.

That's not an expiry, and it is always dependent of the 'medical
official' (whatever one of those is) being confirmed by a consultant.

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 by: Mike Collins - Tue, 29 Mar 2022 09:52 UTC

On Tuesday, 29 March 2022 at 10:05:45 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> On 29/03/2022 08:56, Mike Collins wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 29 March 2022 at 08:54:03 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
> >> On 28/03/2022 18:27, Mike Collins wrote:
>
> >>>> Oh, BTW, when was this upper age limit for a diving licence brought in?
> >>>> Or is it yet another fairy-story invention by the cyclists?
>
> >>> I don't know when it was brought in but UK driving licences expire on your 70th birthday.
>
> >> So there are no licensed drivers over 70?
> > Did I say that?
>
> It was your reply to the question "when was this upper age limit for a
> diving licence brought in?"; but I suspect you responded to a different
> and unasked question.
>
>
> --
> Spike

And I replied I did not know when the 70yo limit was brought in. Nevertheless it was brought in.

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 by: Spike - Tue, 29 Mar 2022 10:55 UTC

On 29/03/2022 09:49, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, March 25, 2022 at 4:51:48 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote:

>> As I have said before my council charges me for garden waste collection on the grounds that not everyone has a garden so why should they have to pay for those that do.

> Our council does not collect garden waste during the winter, but our tax does not go down.

That's because your Council Tax is set for a year, not by the job. HTH.

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 by: Spike - Tue, 29 Mar 2022 10:57 UTC

On 29/03/2022 09:52, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Tuesday, 29 March 2022 at 10:05:45 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>> On 29/03/2022 08:56, Mike Collins wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, 29 March 2022 at 08:54:03 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>> On 28/03/2022 18:27, Mike Collins wrote:

>>>>>> Oh, BTW, when was this upper age limit for a diving licence brought in?
>>>>>> Or is it yet another fairy-story invention by the cyclists?

>>>>> I don't know when it was brought in but UK driving licences expire on your 70th birthday.

>>>> So there are no licensed drivers over 70?

>>> Did I say that?

>> It was your reply to the question "when was this upper age limit for a
>> diving licence brought in?"; but I suspect you responded to a different
>> and unasked question.

> And I replied I did not know when the 70yo limit was brought in. Nevertheless it was brought in.

Which wasn't what was being asked. HTH.

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 by: JNugent - Tue, 29 Mar 2022 11:16 UTC

On 29/03/2022 10:52 am, Mike Collins wrote:

> On Tuesday, 29 March 2022 at 10:05:45 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>> On 29/03/2022 08:56, Mike Collins wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, 29 March 2022 at 08:54:03 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>>>> On 28/03/2022 18:27, Mike Collins wrote:
>>
>>>>>> Oh, BTW, when was this upper age limit for a diving licence brought in?
>>>>>> Or is it yet another fairy-story invention by the cyclists?
>>
>>>>> I don't know when it was brought in but UK driving licences expire on your 70th birthday.
>>
>>>> So there are no licensed drivers over 70?
>>> Did I say that?
>>
>> It was your reply to the question "when was this upper age limit for a
>> diving licence brought in?"; but I suspect you responded to a different
>> and unasked question.
>>
>
> And I replied I did not know when the 70yo limit was brought in. Nevertheless it was brought in.

What you call "70yo limit" was a liberalisation and certainly not a
restriction.

It was brought in when the DVLC (Swansea) and the green paper licence
were established (c.1975).

Before that, licences lasted three years only.

Under the new rules, a licence could, for a person who passed their test
at seventeen - last for nearly fifty three years. Or even a full
fifty-three years for someone who managed to book and pass a driving
test on their seventeenth birthday.

Under the old scheme, someone who passed a test at (say) 17 in 1975
would so far have to have had new (renewal) licences in 1978, 1981,
1984, 1987, 1990, 1993, 1996, 1999, 2002, 2005, 2008, 2011, 2014, 2017
and 2020 - with that process being extended for as long as they wished,
and were able, to continue driving.

Under the scheme as it was introduced, their first licence, issued to
them at 17 in 1975, would still have six years to run as at today's date.

But you call it a "limit". It is nothing of the sort.

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 by: TMS320 - Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:45 UTC

On 27/03/2022 13:30, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Sunday, 27 March 2022 at 13:24:58 UTC+1, Spike wrote:
>> On 27/03/2022 11:22, swldx...@gmail.com wrote
>>> 19 hrs ago
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>>> Parents need to be stop being lazy and walk their kids to school.
>>
>>> SPOT ON.
>> Nearly 70 years ago
>
> So you are too old to drive.

Might explain why he is a miserable old git.


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