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From: notgo...@happen.com (Clocky)
Newsgroups: aus.computers
Subject: Re: Petrol cars ban
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2021 15:55:03 +0800
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 by: Clocky - Mon, 26 Apr 2021 07:55 UTC

On 10/04/2021 9:20 am, News 2021 wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Apr 2021 00:52:07 +1000, Yosemite Sam scribed:
>
>> Xeno wrote:
>>> On 9/4/21 5:00 pm, News 2021 wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 09 Apr 2021 16:04:18 +1000, Yosemite Sam scribed:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> yes they did. what about that clown on the public teat who said
>>>>> oceans would rise and coastal areas would be 10ft underwater?
>>>>
>>>> 10 feet hey!
>>>> Credibility = nil.
>>>> 10 inches is likely.
>>>>
>>> Indeed, there has been a lot of exaggeration.
>>>
>>>
>> Tim Flannery that's who I was thinking of
>>
>> https://www.theage.com.au/national/climates-last-chance-20061028-
> ge3fvb.html
>
> Skimming that, he quoted a NASA source for a possible 25 metres, which is
> far greater.
>
> "James Hanson, director of NASA's Goddard Institute, is arguably the
> world authority on climate change. He predicts that we have just a decade
> to avert a 25-metre rise of the sea. Picture an eight-storey building by
> a beach, then imagine waves lapping its roof. That's what a 25-metre rise
> in sea level looks like."
>
> Personally, I'd take that with a grain of salt, it could go either way,
> as even now, they still don't know how he landmasses underlying these
> "ice sheets" will react and they are continually refining their "ice melt
> models". Mostly by "Shit,it is faster than we though" because unexpected
> melting is being found in places they can not easily observe.
>
> What is missing is timescale and that is what we really need to know.
> Given that change is normal.
>

The current rate of change isn't normal.

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From: rod.spee...@gmail.com (Rod Speed)
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Subject: Re: Petrol cars ban
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 by: Rod Speed - Mon, 26 Apr 2021 08:47 UTC

"Clocky" <notgonna@happen.com> wrote in message
news:s65rkn$oeo$1@dont-email.me...
> On 10/04/2021 9:20 am, News 2021 wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 Apr 2021 00:52:07 +1000, Yosemite Sam scribed:
>>
>>> Xeno wrote:
>>>> On 9/4/21 5:00 pm, News 2021 wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 09 Apr 2021 16:04:18 +1000, Yosemite Sam scribed:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> yes they did. what about that clown on the public teat who said
>>>>>> oceans would rise and coastal areas would be 10ft underwater?
>>>>>
>>>>> 10 feet hey!
>>>>> Credibility = nil.
>>>>> 10 inches is likely.
>>>>>
>>>> Indeed, there has been a lot of exaggeration.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Tim Flannery that's who I was thinking of
>>>
>>> https://www.theage.com.au/national/climates-last-chance-20061028-
>> ge3fvb.html
>>
>> Skimming that, he quoted a NASA source for a possible 25 metres, which is
>> far greater.
>>
>> "James Hanson, director of NASA's Goddard Institute, is arguably the
>> world authority on climate change. He predicts that we have just a decade
>> to avert a 25-metre rise of the sea. Picture an eight-storey building by
>> a beach, then imagine waves lapping its roof. That's what a 25-metre rise
>> in sea level looks like."
>>
>> Personally, I'd take that with a grain of salt, it could go either way,
>> as even now, they still don't know how he landmasses underlying these
>> "ice sheets" will react and they are continually refining their "ice melt
>> models". Mostly by "Shit,it is faster than we though" because unexpected
>> melting is being found in places they can not easily observe.
>>
>> What is missing is timescale and that is what we really need to know.
>> Given that change is normal.
>>
>
> The current rate of change isn't normal.

Bullshit.

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