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* Wall fixings behind a flue - how?Chris Green
+- Re: Wall fixings behind a flue - how?alan_m
+- Re: Wall fixings behind a flue - how?nothanks
+- Re: Wall fixings behind a flue - how?Tim+
`- Re: Wall fixings behind a flue - how?Roger Mills

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Subject: Wall fixings behind a flue - how?
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 by: Chris Green - Fri, 11 Nov 2022 13:02 UTC

I'm still puzzling over my flue fixing problem.

Nearly all of the ready made flue brackets I can find assume that you
are mounting them before the flue is installed. I need a "retrofit"
bracket! :-)

Alternatively I need a way to get a sound (as in wall plug type)
fixing in the wall in line with the flue. There's about 17cm
clearance from the flue to one wall and about 15cm clearance to the
other wall. That's nowhere near enough space to get a drill between
the flue and the wall.

I don't want anything too ugly as this is in our living room, but I
would like something reasonably robust to give the pipe some support.

I was originally thinking about a support to the ceiling (my first
posting about this) but I don't think the ceiling is particularly
robust where the flue goes through. There's a (presumably) fireproof
panel that the installers have mounted on the ceiling but it's just
stuck onto the plasterboard as far as I can see and there are no
joists nearby.

The best idea I can come up with at the moment is a block of wood
screwed to the wall right in the corner (which would be fairly easy to
drill holes for) and a bracket moounted on that to support the flue
but the bracket is then a rather one-off special.

Does anyone have any bright ideas to help me on my way in this?

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Chris Green
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From: jun...@admac.myzen.co.uk (alan_m)
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 by: alan_m - Fri, 11 Nov 2022 13:20 UTC

On 11/11/2022 13:02, Chris Green wrote:
> I'm still puzzling over my flue fixing problem.
>
> Nearly all of the ready made flue brackets I can find assume that you
> are mounting them before the flue is installed. I need a "retrofit"
> bracket! :-)
>
> Alternatively I need a way to get a sound (as in wall plug type)
> fixing in the wall in line with the flue. There's about 17cm
> clearance from the flue to one wall and about 15cm clearance to the
> other wall. That's nowhere near enough space to get a drill between
> the flue and the wall.
>
> I don't want anything too ugly as this is in our living room, but I
> would like something reasonably robust to give the pipe some support.
>
> I was originally thinking about a support to the ceiling (my first
> posting about this) but I don't think the ceiling is particularly
> robust where the flue goes through. There's a (presumably) fireproof
> panel that the installers have mounted on the ceiling but it's just
> stuck onto the plasterboard as far as I can see and there are no
> joists nearby.
>
> The best idea I can come up with at the moment is a block of wood
> screwed to the wall right in the corner (which would be fairly easy to
> drill holes for) and a bracket moounted on that to support the flue
> but the bracket is then a rather one-off special.
>
> Does anyone have any bright ideas to help me on my way in this?
>

What about not using the single screw rod at the back of the bracket and
instead make two fixing points using the holes that join the two halves
of the bracket together. You will some long threaded rod.

https://www.toolstation.com/search?q=threaded%20rod

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 by: notha...@aolbin.com - Fri, 11 Nov 2022 15:44 UTC

On 11/11/2022 13:02, Chris Green wrote:
> I'm still puzzling over my flue fixing problem.
>
> Nearly all of the ready made flue brackets I can find assume that you
> are mounting them before the flue is installed. I need a "retrofit"
> bracket! :-)
>
> Alternatively I need a way to get a sound (as in wall plug type)
> fixing in the wall in line with the flue. There's about 17cm
> clearance from the flue to one wall and about 15cm clearance to the
> other wall. That's nowhere near enough space to get a drill between
> the flue and the wall.
>
> I don't want anything too ugly as this is in our living room, but I
> would like something reasonably robust to give the pipe some support.
>
> I was originally thinking about a support to the ceiling (my first
> posting about this) but I don't think the ceiling is particularly
> robust where the flue goes through. There's a (presumably) fireproof
> panel that the installers have mounted on the ceiling but it's just
> stuck onto the plasterboard as far as I can see and there are no
> joists nearby.
>
> The best idea I can come up with at the moment is a block of wood
> screwed to the wall right in the corner (which would be fairly easy to
> drill holes for) and a bracket moounted on that to support the flue
> but the bracket is then a rather one-off special.
>
> Does anyone have any bright ideas to help me on my way in this?
>
I can't quite visualise the situation, but could you make a thin
truncated pyramid that you fix to the wall on either side of the pipe
(and plug the holes in the pyramid) and attach the pipe to the pyramid ...

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 by: Tim+ - Fri, 11 Nov 2022 16:51 UTC

Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
> I'm still puzzling over my flue fixing problem.
>
> Nearly all of the ready made flue brackets I can find assume that you
> are mounting them before the flue is installed. I need a "retrofit"
> bracket! :-)
>
> Alternatively I need a way to get a sound (as in wall plug type)
> fixing in the wall in line with the flue. There's about 17cm
> clearance from the flue to one wall and about 15cm clearance to the
> other wall. That's nowhere near enough space to get a drill between
> the flue and the wall.
>
> I don't want anything too ugly as this is in our living room, but I
> would like something reasonably robust to give the pipe some support.
>
> I was originally thinking about a support to the ceiling (my first
> posting about this) but I don't think the ceiling is particularly
> robust where the flue goes through. There's a (presumably) fireproof
> panel that the installers have mounted on the ceiling but it's just
> stuck onto the plasterboard as far as I can see and there are no
> joists nearby.
>
> The best idea I can come up with at the moment is a block of wood
> screwed to the wall right in the corner (which would be fairly easy to
> drill holes for) and a bracket moounted on that to support the flue
> but the bracket is then a rather one-off special.
>
> Does anyone have any bright ideas to help me on my way in this?
>

Hmm, does it *need* extra support? If so, why weren’t brackets fitted
during installation?

You say you want your brackets in the line of the flue behind it. Curious
as to why (or is it just for appearance)?

Would this kind of thing provide the necessary mechanical support (if not
the desired aesthetics)?
https://www.glowing-embers.co.uk/ChimneyAndFlues/TwinWallInsulatedFlueSystems/ShieldmasterTwinWallFluePipe/8200mmShieldmasterTwinWallFluePipe/8200mm130-210mmAdjustableWallBracketSupport-ForTwinWallFluePipe

Tim

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From: mills37....@gmail.com (Roger Mills)
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 by: Roger Mills - Fri, 11 Nov 2022 20:17 UTC

On 11/11/2022 13:02, Chris Green wrote:
> I'm still puzzling over my flue fixing problem.
>
> Nearly all of the ready made flue brackets I can find assume that you
> are mounting them before the flue is installed. I need a "retrofit"
> bracket! :-)
>
> Alternatively I need a way to get a sound (as in wall plug type)
> fixing in the wall in line with the flue. There's about 17cm
> clearance from the flue to one wall and about 15cm clearance to the
> other wall. That's nowhere near enough space to get a drill between
> the flue and the wall.
>

A right-angle drill - or even an adapter such as
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334292170726?var=0&mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=710-53481-19255-0&campid=5338268676&toolid=10044&customid=Cj0KCQiAgribBhDkARIsAASA5btrqF4hvdNOFTOaa9wIKLv1HAxcfyQ17NwjqZW-Jn_9AsJsrqqmbbUaAjQREALw_wcB
should enable you to drill holes behind the flue.

--
Cheers,
Roger

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