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* parliament rape trialMax
+- Re: parliament rape trialRod Speed
`* Re: parliament rape trialPete
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   `* Re: parliament rape trialPhil Allison
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 by: Max - Wed, 19 Oct 2022 06:45 UTC

Is if fair on the male accused that the jury who will be making the
decision consists of 8 women and 4 men?

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 19 Oct 2022 08:13 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote

> Is if fair on the male accused that the jury who will be making the
> decision consists of 8 women and 4 men?

Wota pathetic excuse for a troll you have always been, child.

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 by: Pete - Wed, 19 Oct 2022 21:06 UTC

> Is if fair on the male accused that the jury who will be making the
> decision consists of 8 women and 4 men?

Do you understand how juries are empanelled?

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 by: Max - Wed, 19 Oct 2022 21:41 UTC

On 20/10/2022 8:06 am, Pete wrote:
>> Is if fair on the male accused that the jury who will be making the
>> decision consists of 8 women and 4 men?
>
> Do you understand how juries are empanelled?
>

Not really, but even if there is a process, I still think it will be
biased to have double the number of women.

I know if I was on trial for the rape of a woman, I wouldn't be happy
about having so many women on the jury.

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 by: Pete - Wed, 19 Oct 2022 22:06 UTC

>> Do you understand how juries are empanelled?

> Not really

Yet you offer your opinion on whether a jury is fair?

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 by: Phil Allison - Wed, 19 Oct 2022 23:25 UTC

Pete wrote:
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> >> Do you understand how juries are empanelled?
>

** Do you ?

> > Not really ....

** Potential jurors are called to attend court from the local electoral rolls.
They do not answer questions nor are any details about them supplied - not even their names.
Each side can reject a few, based only on how they look- age, gender, clothes & demeanor.

Nothing like the American system you see in movies.

> Yet you offer your opinion on whether a jury is fair?

** Juries are never fair, most jurors will decide based on their collective prejudices.
Importantly, if the Judge considers the prosecution case is inadequate for a safe conviction the trial must be dismissed.
Sometimes in a "high profile" case, like this one, the judge is not game to do that because of possible repercussions.

........ Phil

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 by: Pete - Wed, 19 Oct 2022 23:40 UTC

On 20/10/2022 10:25 am, Phil Allison wrote:

>>> Do you understand how juries are empanelled?

> ** Do you ?

Yes.

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 by: Phil Allison - Thu, 20 Oct 2022 00:17 UTC

Pete wrote:
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> >>> Do you understand how juries are empanelled?
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> > ** Do you ?
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> Yes.

** Obvious, stupid lie.

..... Phil


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