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From: max...@val.morgan (Max)
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Subject: Re: No win no fee?
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2022 14:34:15 +1000
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 by: Max - Wed, 31 Aug 2022 04:34 UTC

On 31/08/2022 1:27 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
> Max the MORON wrote:
> =================
>>
>> Probably is correct that getting a lawyer will increase your payout,
>> otherwise why would all those types of lawyers be in business?
>>
>
> ** More IDIOT false logic from the resident FUCKWIT
>

If you want to be stupid when you have an accident or injury, and get a
lower payout, then be my guest.

It means there's more money for me.

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From: rod.spee...@gmail.com (Rod Speed)
Newsgroups: aus.legal
Subject: Re: No win no fee?
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2022 16:28:42 +1000
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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 31 Aug 2022 06:28 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What percentage of the payout do lawyers keep in lieu of fees?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nothing is fixed. The worst of them take the lot.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, that's outrageous.
>>>>>>>> Yep, only the stupid have anything to do with those parasites.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have heard that if you are in a workers compensation type
>>>>>>> situation or other insurance payout situation - like personal
>>>>>>> injury from a car accident, then if you don't get a lawyer you
>>>>>>> will get a low-ball payout offer by the insurer.
>>>>
>>>>>> That's what you get when you listen to ignorant fools.
>>>>
>>>>> The person who said that was a lawyer on Whirlpool.
>>>> Just because some fool of a lawyer claims something...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Probably is correct that getting a lawyer will increase your payout,
>>> otherwise why would all those types of lawyers be in business?
>> Because fools like you are as stupid as you.
>> You are too stupid to work out why he runs that line.

> I believe the guy who said that.

Yes, you actually are that stupid.

> I watched his posts for a while, and I don't think he would be making it
> up.

Yes, you actually are that stupid.

>>>>>> And that has nothing to do with no win no fee anyway,
>>>>>> there will always be a win with a valid compo claim.

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 31 Aug 2022 06:29 UTC

On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 14:34:15 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:

> On 31/08/2022 1:27 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
>> Max the MORON wrote:
>> =================
>>>
>>> Probably is correct that getting a lawyer will increase your payout,
>>> otherwise why would all those types of lawyers be in business?
>>>
>> ** More IDIOT false logic from the resident FUCKWIT
>>
>
> If you want to be stupid when you have an accident or injury, and get a
> lower payout, then be my guest.
>
> It means there's more money for me.

Nope, dope.

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 by: Max - Wed, 31 Aug 2022 07:30 UTC

On 31/08/2022 4:29 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 14:34:15 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:
>
>> On 31/08/2022 1:27 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
>>>   Max the MORON wrote:
>>> =================
>>>>
>>>> Probably is correct that getting a lawyer will increase your payout,
>>>> otherwise why would all those types of lawyers be in business?
>>>>
>>>  **  More IDIOT false logic from the resident FUCKWIT
>>>
>>
>> If you want to be stupid when you have an accident or injury, and get
>> a lower payout, then be my guest.
>>
>> It means there's more money for me.
>
> Nope, dope.

Why do the law firms exist then if you can't get a bigger payout by
using them?

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 31 Aug 2022 07:53 UTC

On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 17:30:56 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:

> On 31/08/2022 4:29 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>> On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 14:34:15 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:
>>
>>> On 31/08/2022 1:27 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
>>>> Max the MORON wrote:
>>>> =================
>>>>>
>>>>> Probably is correct that getting a lawyer will increase your payout,
>>>>> otherwise why would all those types of lawyers be in business?
>>>>>
>>>> ** More IDIOT false logic from the resident FUCKWIT
>>>>
>>>
>>> If you want to be stupid when you have an accident or injury, and get
>>> a lower payout, then be my guest.
>>>
>>> It means there's more money for me.
>> Nope, dope.

> Why do the law firms exist then if you can't get a bigger payout by
> using them?

Because they have conned stupids like you into believing that self
interested claim;

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 by: Max - Wed, 31 Aug 2022 09:41 UTC

On 31/08/2022 5:53 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 17:30:56 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:
>
>> On 31/08/2022 4:29 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>> On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 14:34:15 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 31/08/2022 1:27 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
>>>>>   Max the MORON wrote:
>>>>> =================
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Probably is correct that getting a lawyer will increase your payout,
>>>>>> otherwise why would all those types of lawyers be in business?
>>>>>>
>>>>>  **  More IDIOT false logic from the resident FUCKWIT
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you want to be stupid when you have an accident or injury, and
>>>> get a lower payout, then be my guest.
>>>>
>>>> It means there's more money for me.
>>>  Nope, dope.
>
>> Why do the law firms exist then if you can't get a bigger payout by
>> using them?
>
> Because they have conned stupids like you into believing that self
> interested claim;

Wouldn't you want a worker's comp on your side to submit the claim as
best you can to get the best payout.

And also to prevent the workers comp insurance company from playing any
funny tricks to lower the payout.

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 by: Max - Wed, 31 Aug 2022 09:43 UTC

On 31/08/2022 4:28 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What percentage of the payout do lawyers keep in lieu of fees?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Nothing is fixed. The worst of them take the lot.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Well, that's outrageous.
>>>>>>>>>  Yep, only the stupid have anything to do with those parasites.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have heard that if you are in a workers compensation type
>>>>>>>> situation or other insurance payout situation - like personal
>>>>>>>> injury from a car accident, then if you don't get a lawyer you
>>>>>>>> will get a low-ball payout offer by the insurer.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>  That's what you get when you listen to ignorant fools.
>>>>>
>>>>>> The person who said that was a lawyer on Whirlpool.
>>>>>  Just because some fool of a lawyer claims something...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Probably is correct that getting a lawyer will increase your payout,
>>>> otherwise why would all those types of lawyers be in business?
>>>  Because fools like you are as stupid as you.
>>>  You are too stupid to work out why he runs that line.
>
>> I believe the guy who said that.
>
> Yes, you actually are that stupid.
>
>> I watched his posts for a while, and I don't think he would be making
>> it up.
>
> Yes, you actually are that stupid.
>

This is what he wrote:

"Usually insurers low-ball you with their first quote. Given the amounts
we're talking about, it might be worth getting proper legal advice."
https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/2489775#r49294509

I also know that he is a lawyer. If you read the post and thread you
will see it makes no sense for him to say that if it weren't a true
statement and reflective of reality.

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 by: Max - Wed, 31 Aug 2022 09:45 UTC

On 31/08/2022 7:41 pm, Max wrote:
> On 31/08/2022 5:53 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>> On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 17:30:56 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:
>>
>>> On 31/08/2022 4:29 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 14:34:15 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 31/08/2022 1:27 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
>>>>>>   Max the MORON wrote:
>>>>>> =================
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Probably is correct that getting a lawyer will increase your payout,
>>>>>>> otherwise why would all those types of lawyers be in business?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>  **  More IDIOT false logic from the resident FUCKWIT
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you want to be stupid when you have an accident or injury, and
>>>>> get a lower payout, then be my guest.
>>>>>
>>>>> It means there's more money for me.
>>>>  Nope, dope.
>>
>>> Why do the law firms exist then if you can't get a bigger payout by
>>> using them?
>>
>> Because they have conned stupids like you into believing that self
>> interested claim;
>
> Wouldn't you want a worker's comp on your side to submit the claim as
> best you can to get the best payout.
>
> And also to prevent the workers comp insurance company from playing any
> funny tricks to lower the payout.

Wouldn't you want a worker's comp lawyer on your side to submit the
claim as best you can to get the best payout.

And also to prevent the workers comp insurance company from playing any
funny tricks to lower the payout.

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 31 Aug 2022 09:45 UTC

On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 19:41:25 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:

> On 31/08/2022 5:53 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>> On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 17:30:56 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:
>>
>>> On 31/08/2022 4:29 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 14:34:15 +1000, Max <max@val.morgan> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 31/08/2022 1:27 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
>>>>>> Max the MORON wrote:
>>>>>> =================
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Probably is correct that getting a lawyer will increase your
>>>>>>> payout,
>>>>>>> otherwise why would all those types of lawyers be in business?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** More IDIOT false logic from the resident FUCKWIT
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you want to be stupid when you have an accident or injury, and
>>>>> get a lower payout, then be my guest.
>>>>>
>>>>> It means there's more money for me.
>>>> Nope, dope.
>>
>>> Why do the law firms exist then if you can't get a bigger payout by
>>> using them?
>> Because they have conned stupids like you into believing that self
>> interested claim;

> Wouldn't you want a worker's comp on your side to submit the claim as
> best you can to get the best payout.

Only fools like you believe that legal parasite's claim
that they will get the best payout for you. n

> And also to prevent the workers comp insurance company from playing any
> funny tricks to lower the payout.

No evidence that any legal parasite can do that either.

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 31 Aug 2022 09:48 UTC

Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>> Max <max@val.morgan> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What percentage of the payout do lawyers keep in lieu of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fees?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nothing is fixed. The worst of them take the lot.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, that's outrageous.
>>>>>>>>>> Yep, only the stupid have anything to do with those parasites.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have heard that if you are in a workers compensation type
>>>>>>>>> situation or other insurance payout situation - like personal
>>>>>>>>> injury from a car accident, then if you don't get a lawyer you
>>>>>>>>> will get a low-ball payout offer by the insurer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's what you get when you listen to ignorant fools.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The person who said that was a lawyer on Whirlpool.
>>>>>> Just because some fool of a lawyer claims something...
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Probably is correct that getting a lawyer will increase your payout,
>>>>> otherwise why would all those types of lawyers be in business?
>>>> Because fools like you are as stupid as you.
>>>> You are too stupid to work out why he runs that line.
>>
>>> I believe the guy who said that.
>> Yes, you actually are that stupid.
>>
>>> I watched his posts for a while, and I don't think he would be making
>>> it up.
>> Yes, you actually are that stupid.
>>
>
> This is what he wrote:
>
> "Usually insurers low-ball you with their first quote. Given the amounts
> we're talking about, it might be worth getting proper legal advice."
> https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/2489775#r49294509

No reason why you can't allow for that without legal advice.

> I also know that he is a lawyer. If you read the post and thread you
> will see it makes no sense for him to say that if it weren't a true
> statement and reflective of reality.

Even sillier and more stupid than you usually manage and that's saying
something.

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 by: Max - Fri, 11 Nov 2022 11:55 UTC

On 17/08/2022 9:38 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
> pet...@gmail.com wrote:
> ===================
>>
>> No-win no fee is your choice to go ahead with or not.
>> Remember if a no-win-no-fee is willing to take the case you better
>> check with other GOOD lawyers for a price as you have a case that you
>> will very probably win.
>> However a no-win-no-fee may still be the better deal.
>>
>
> ** Almost bound to be, the NWNF guy or gal will try his or her damnest to get the biggest payout possible.
> To the other kind, it makes no difference.
> That one simple fact, common to the majority of legal cases, makes a joke of the legal profession.
> YOU may win or lose - they always win.
> YOU may even go to jail due to their incompetence - they never do.
>

No-win no-fee lawyers are inclined to settle the case as soon as
possible, because they don't get paid until they 'win' the case.

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 by: Petzl - Sat, 12 Nov 2022 23:36 UTC

On Fri, 11 Nov 2022 22:55:29 +1100, Max <max@invalid.address> wrote:

>On 17/08/2022 9:38 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
>> pet...@gmail.com wrote:
>> ===================
>>>
>>> No-win no fee is your choice to go ahead with or not.
>>> Remember if a no-win-no-fee is willing to take the case you better
>>> check with other GOOD lawyers for a price as you have a case that you
>>> will very probably win.
>>> However a no-win-no-fee may still be the better deal.
>>>
>>
>> ** Almost bound to be, the NWNF guy or gal will try his or her damnest to get the biggest payout possible.
>> To the other kind, it makes no difference.
>> That one simple fact, common to the majority of legal cases, makes a joke of the legal profession.
>> YOU may win or lose - they always win.
>> YOU may even go to jail due to their incompetence - they never do.
>>
>
>No-win no-fee lawyers are inclined to settle the case as soon as
>possible, because they don't get paid until they 'win' the case.
>
If "No-win no-fee lawyers" take on a case they do so because they
believe they will win it.
Not heard they will settle for less than what they are going for.
--
Petzl
Good lawyers know the law
Great lawyers know the judge


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