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Re: Rishi?s Rescue

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From: G6J...@255soft.uk (J. P. Gilliver (John))
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 by: J. P. Gilliver (John - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 11:13 UTC

On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 at 09:34:45, Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com> wrote
(my responses usually FOLLOW):
>On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 08:03:18 +0200, Sjouke Burry
><burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> scrawled in the dust...
[]
>>Why are you spoiling honest beverages with oodles of milk?
>>When visiting London and a few other places, in the end they forced me
>>to order black coffee and tea, just because nobody knew the meaning of
>>what a "little bit of milk" meant.........
>>I still dont use any milk to spoil my drinks.
>
>I rarely buy hot drinks when out and about but when I still took milk in
>them, found asking for a teaspoon of milk usually did the trick. Of course
>the beverage itself was often over-brewed - which is why I rarely buy hot
>drinks when out and about.

Aren't we all different! I like something warm, sweet, and milky - to
the extent that I've sometimes wondered whether I should leave out the
tea or coffee. (But I like it to look brown. I do buy the cheapest
coffee I can find though. [I think I've mentioned here before that I
_prefer_ instant coffee, and in fact almost consider instant and other
coffee to be two different substances.]) But I know what you mean - my
Grandma always wanted a minimal amount of milk, usually none in the
second cup as the remainder from the first sufficed. My blind friend
Julia also wants very little milk.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"The right to be heard does not include the right to be taken seriously."
- Hubert H. Humphrey

Re: Rishi?s Rescue

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From: spa...@labyrinth.freeuk.com (Penny)
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Subject: Re: Rishi?s Rescue
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 by: Penny - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 12:22 UTC

On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 09:24:38 +0100, Chris J Dixon <chris@cdixon.me.uk>
scrawled in the dust...

>Our stove-top experiment ceased abruptly when we left it on the
>cooker to keep warm, after the liquid had boiled through the
>grounds. We returned to it to find it sitting at a jaunty angle
>as the alloy had melted and flowed through the heating element.
>:-(

You could probably have sold that as 'art' :)
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959

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 by: Chris J Dixon - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 13:45 UTC

Penny wrote:

>On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 09:24:38 +0100, Chris J Dixon <chris@cdixon.me.uk>
>scrawled in the dust...
>
>>Our stove-top experiment ceased abruptly when we left it on the
>>cooker to keep warm, after the liquid had boiled through the
>>grounds. We returned to it to find it sitting at a jaunty angle
>>as the alloy had melted and flowed through the heating element.
>>:-(
>
>You could probably have sold that as 'art' :)

Mixed media?

I've certainly seen less impressive exhibits.

Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham
'48/33 M B+ G++ A L(-) I S-- CH0(--)(p) Ar- T+ H0 ?Q
chris@cdixon.me.uk @ChrisJDixon1
Plant amazing Acers.

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 by: Vicky - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 15:54 UTC

On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 12:13:23 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
<G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:

>On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 at 09:34:45, Penny <spam@labyrinth.freeuk.com> wrote
>(my responses usually FOLLOW):
>>On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 08:03:18 +0200, Sjouke Burry
>><burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> scrawled in the dust...
>[]
>>>Why are you spoiling honest beverages with oodles of milk?
>>>When visiting London and a few other places, in the end they forced me
>>>to order black coffee and tea, just because nobody knew the meaning of
>>>what a "little bit of milk" meant.........
>>>I still dont use any milk to spoil my drinks.
>>
>>I rarely buy hot drinks when out and about but when I still took milk in
>>them, found asking for a teaspoon of milk usually did the trick. Of course
>>the beverage itself was often over-brewed - which is why I rarely buy hot
>>drinks when out and about.
>
>Aren't we all different! I like something warm, sweet, and milky - to
>the extent that I've sometimes wondered whether I should leave out the
>tea or coffee. (But I like it to look brown. I do buy the cheapest
>coffee I can find though. [I think I've mentioned here before that I
>_prefer_ instant coffee, and in fact almost consider instant and other
>coffee to be two different substances.]) But I know what you mean - my
>Grandma always wanted a minimal amount of milk, usually none in the
>second cup as the remainder from the first sufficed. My blind friend
>Julia also wants very little milk.

I rarely buy hot drinks when out as the cost incoffee places is so
high. I do meet a gf for coffee every now and then but people who buy
one or two coffees daily seem to be wasting money.

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 by: Serena Blanchflower - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 16:12 UTC

On 26/04/2022 13:03, Kate B wrote:
> On 25/04/2022 22:15, Vicky wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 19:34:13 +0100, BrritSki
>> <rtilburyTAKEAWAY@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 25/04/2022 17:14, Vicky wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 13:06:44 +0100, BrritSki
>>>> <rtilburyTAKEAWAY@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 25/04/2022 11:31, Nick Odell wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 11:06:38 +0100, Vicky <vicky.ayech@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 10:52:32 +0100, Jenny M Benson
>>>>>>> <NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can't be doing with black coffee, but I have a Tassimo machine
>>>>>>>> (*) and
>>>>>>>> LOVE the coffee it makes.  I usually set my machine for "large
>>>>>>>> cup" and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Someone left us their Nespresso when they died and I did like that
>>>>>>> coffee but felt guilty about the pods so stopped using it.We've
>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>> got it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Whether your issues are with the waste elements or with the brand,
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> might be able to solve them by buying some reusable pods and filling
>>>>>> them with a coffee of your choice. Amazon do SEALPOD: other brands
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> available.
>>>>>
>>>>> We have a LaVazza machine, the cheapest available (free if you
>>>>> commit to
>>>>> a pod subscription) that makes fantastic espresso coffee. No bells and
>>>>> whistles, so if you like cappuccino you'll have to find another way to
>>>>> froth your milk [not going there].
>>>>> It claims that the pods are compostable, but they don;t break down on
>>>>> our compost heap. :(
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hmmmmm  we have no compost heap. I don't make cappuccino, I make 1/3
>>>> hot milk flat white.
>>>
>>> This is what you want then - special offer on Amazon.
>>> Assuming you can heat milk in a pan or microwave.
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lavazza-Jolie-Espresso-Coffee-Machine/dp/B086WY959G/ref=asc_df_B086WY959G/?tag=&linkCode=df0&hvadid=430764000643&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8490710449956684550&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006506&hvtargid=pla-914895045486&th=1&ref=&adgrpid=103002100507
>>>
>>>
>>> Put the pods in the recycling.
>>
>>
>> The cafetierre is fine.
>
> I distrust cafetieres. They have vomited boiling grounds at me too
> often. I use a coffee pot and make it rather like tea - warm the pot,
> add the freshly ground coffee (quite fine, I don't mind a bit of sludge
> in the last cup), pour some just-boiled water on, wait a little (as the
> toast toasts) stir and fill up. Is hot and strong and delicious, and I
> can do it in my sleep...
>
> PS Lidl's Colombian and Italian beans mixed and ground fine make a very
> good and reliable cup of coffee.
>

I've largely abandoned my cafetiere, although I'd dig it out if I needed
to make more than a couple of mugs of coffee. Partly because it's too
prone to vomiting and partly because it's fiddly to wash the filter. I
now use a drip-filter, over the mug, which works very well and both
filter and the coffee it contains go in the wormery.

--
Best wishes, Serena
Q. What happened to the hyena that swallowed an Oxo cube?
A. He made a laughing stock of himself.

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 by: steve hague - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 16:57 UTC

>
> Aren't we all different! I like something warm, sweet, and milky - to
> the extent that I've sometimes wondered whether I should leave out the
> tea or coffee. (But I like it to look brown. I do buy the cheapest
> coffee I can find though. [I think I've mentioned here before that I
> _prefer_ instant coffee, and in fact almost consider instant and other
> coffee to be two different substances.]) But I know what you mean - my
> Grandma always wanted a minimal amount of milk, usually none in the
> second cup as the remainder from the first sufficed. My blind friend
> Julia also wants very little milk.

Some of us long for the days of Camp Coffee Essence. Not me, I thought
it to be foul stuff.
Steve

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 by: Sid Nuncius - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 17:40 UTC

On 27/04/2022 17:57, steve hague wrote:

> Some of us long for the days of Camp Coffee Essence. Not me, I thought
> it to be foul stuff.

Frightful! I could never understand why it called itself coffee at all. :o)

(And let's not go into the label...)

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(Make sure Matron is away when you reply)

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 by: Vicky - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 17:55 UTC

On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 18:40:17 +0100, Sid Nuncius
<nuncius@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>On 27/04/2022 17:57, steve hague wrote:
>
>> Some of us long for the days of Camp Coffee Essence. Not me, I thought
>> it to be foul stuff.
>
>Frightful! I could never understand why it called itself coffee at all. :o)
>
>(And let's not go into the label...)

Yes unpleasant tasting stuff. I had coffee first when visiting
Austria as a 10 yar old, staying with aunt and uncle. We had it for
breakfast and I was proud to have the same as adults, as kids were not
coffee drinkers then. It was milky as I was a child. I suppose that
wasmy first memory of how coffee should taste.

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 by: Sam Plusnet - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 18:22 UTC

On 26-Apr-22 23:23, Nick Odell wrote:

> I just push the plunger down very, very slowly.
>

But the smoke goes up the chimney just the same?

(Perhaps I just need a lie down.)

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 by: Sam Plusnet - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 18:33 UTC

On 26-Apr-22 23:51, Nick Odell wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 21:15:52 +0100, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:

> I have a DeLonghi machine[1] but I think it just has a number, not a
> name. It has one-shot and two-shot filters and a special unit for
> using ESE coffee pods. I've never used ESE coffee pods or the special
> unit - except for the one time I mistook it for the one-shot filter
> and made espresso with it. I didn't notice any difference and didn't
> realise that I had done it until afterwards.
>
>> The one snag is that getting a decent coffee grinder, capable of
>> producing proper grounds for espresso, would cost quite a bit more than
>> the coffee machine - so I am limited to pre-ground coffee.
>
> Hmmm... I mainly use ground coffee but have a fairly cheap Andrew
> James(R.I.P) grinder for whole beans[2]. It's probably not the way to
> treat it but I find that after the machine has made a fairly coarse
> cut, I can persuade it to grind finer and finer by jiggling the
> machine up and down while it is working in order that the bigger lumps
> of coffee find their way to the blades.
>
>
> Nick
> [1]I also have a couple of differently-sized Moka Express stove top
> coffee makers (made somewhat redundant by the DeLonghi), a French
> press, mentioned elsewhere, a standard filter coffee brewer and a
> willy-warmer on a stick which is very handy for hotel bedrooms.
> [2]The Andrew James replaced what I thought would have been a really
> nice hand grinder which I bought in a very upmarket coffee shop on the
> corner of the Victoria Market in Melbourne, last time I was there.
> (Hello Tony - I bet you know the shop I mean)

With the exception of the coffee grinder[1], you appear to be me (or
vice versa).
The Andrew James grinder is still available, but that type of blade
grinder is supposed to produce a very variable sized grind, & espresso
machines are supposed to need a very consistent (small) particle size.

[1] And the visit to Melbourne[2].

[2] Unless the one in Derbyshire counts.

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On 27-Apr-22 18:55, Vicky wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 18:40:17 +0100, Sid Nuncius
> <nuncius@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 27/04/2022 17:57, steve hague wrote:
>>
>>> Some of us long for the days of Camp Coffee Essence. Not me, I thought
>>> it to be foul stuff.
>>
>> Frightful! I could never understand why it called itself coffee at all. :o)
>>
>> (And let's not go into the label...)
>
> Yes unpleasant tasting stuff. I had coffee first when visiting
> Austria as a 10 yar old, staying with aunt and uncle. We had it for
> breakfast and I was proud to have the same as adults, as kids were not
> coffee drinkers then. It was milky as I was a child. I suppose that
> wasmy first memory of how coffee should taste.

I quite liked it WIWAL - but you need to think of it as something quite
unlike 'coffee'.
Our bottle of Camp was mostly used as a cake ingredient.

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 by: Sam Plusnet - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 18:39 UTC

On 27-Apr-22 9:24, Chris J Dixon wrote:
> Nick Odell wrote:
>
>> [1]I also have a couple of differently-sized Moka Express stove top
>> coffee makers
>
> Way back when my then household drank coffee, we tried various
> brewing methods.
>
> Our stove-top experiment ceased abruptly when we left it on the
> cooker to keep warm, after the liquid had boiled through the
> grounds. We returned to it to find it sitting at a jaunty angle
> as the alloy had melted and flowed through the heating element.
> :-(

I suspect my two stainless steel moka pots are safe.

--
Sam Plusnet

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 by: Nick Odell - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 21:15 UTC

On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 17:57:55 +0100, steve hague
<stevehague82@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>>
>> Aren't we all different! I like something warm, sweet, and milky - to
>> the extent that I've sometimes wondered whether I should leave out the
>> tea or coffee. (But I like it to look brown. I do buy the cheapest
>> coffee I can find though. [I think I've mentioned here before that I
>> _prefer_ instant coffee, and in fact almost consider instant and other
>> coffee to be two different substances.]) But I know what you mean - my
>> Grandma always wanted a minimal amount of milk, usually none in the
>> second cup as the remainder from the first sufficed. My blind friend
>> Julia also wants very little milk.
>
>Some of us long for the days of Camp Coffee Essence. Not me, I thought
>it to be foul stuff.

It's still available. I know someone who uses it. You can buy it via
t'internet and I think Morrisons supermarket stocks it too.

Nick

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 by: Nick Odell - Wed, 27 Apr 2022 21:17 UTC

On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 19:36:23 +0100, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:

>On 27-Apr-22 18:55, Vicky wrote:
>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 18:40:17 +0100, Sid Nuncius
>> <nuncius@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 27/04/2022 17:57, steve hague wrote:
>>>
>>>> Some of us long for the days of Camp Coffee Essence. Not me, I thought
>>>> it to be foul stuff.
>>>
>>> Frightful! I could never understand why it called itself coffee at all. :o)
>>>
>>> (And let's not go into the label...)
>>
>> Yes unpleasant tasting stuff. I had coffee first when visiting
>> Austria as a 10 yar old, staying with aunt and uncle. We had it for
>> breakfast and I was proud to have the same as adults, as kids were not
>> coffee drinkers then. It was milky as I was a child. I suppose that
>> wasmy first memory of how coffee should taste.
>
>I quite liked it WIWAL - but you need to think of it as something quite
>unlike 'coffee'.
>Our bottle of Camp was mostly used as a cake ingredient.

I use instant coffee for flavouring cakes and developing film - but
not at the same time. Strangely, I never seem to use it for drinking
as coffee,

Nick

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 by: Chris J Dixon - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 07:02 UTC

Nick Odell wrote:

>On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 17:57:55 +0100, steve hague
><stevehague82@gmail.com> wrote:

>>Some of us long for the days of Camp Coffee Essence. Not me, I thought
>>it to be foul stuff.
>
>It's still available. I know someone who uses it. You can buy it via
>t'internet and I think Morrisons supermarket stocks it too.

As I'm sure I have mentioned before, I was amused by the beverage
routine at the glass factory where I spent a few weeks between
leaving school and starting college, coming up for 55 years ago.

From time to time during the shift somebody was sent to the
canteen with a large cardboard box, and a list of requirements
along the lines of "2 pints and 2 halves of tea, 3 pints and 2
halves of coffee".

In the canteen, which was a greasy a dive as ever I have come
across, the order was fulfilled in the following manner:

Bottles, this being a factory producing them, were taken from a
stack, usually squash, or pop designs, depending on what was
being made that day.

Into the first bottle went a green plastic funnel. The brew
machine tap was opened and tea run into an aged 1 pint enamel
mug. Milk and sugar were added as required, and stirred briskly
with a dessert spoon worn triangular by years of use. This was
then tipped into the funnel. Whilst the first bottle filled, the
next brew was prepared.

When it came to coffee, the hot water tap on the brew machine was
used, and the (same) spoon used to measure out a quantity of Camp
Essence (http://www.sybertooth.com/camp/) into the same mug and
thence into the funnel.

The order, when complete, was then taken back to the office in
the cardboard box.

The custom was to swig direct from the bottle, though the
fastidious could use a jam jar, as these were coming off the line
at 2 per second.

It was fine once one was used to it, but initially lifting a
familiar pop bottle to swig a hot brown liquid felt really
strange.

Chris
--
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'48/33 M B+ G++ A L(-) I S-- CH0(--)(p) Ar- T+ H0 ?Q
chris@cdixon.me.uk @ChrisJDixon1
Plant amazing Acers.

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Chris J Dixon <chris@cdixon.me.uk> wrote:
> Nick Odell wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 17:57:55 +0100, steve hague
>> <stevehague82@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Some of us long for the days of Camp Coffee Essence. Not me, I thought
>>> it to be foul stuff.
>>
>> It's still available. I know someone who uses it. You can buy it via
>> t'internet and I think Morrisons supermarket stocks it too.
>
> As I'm sure I have mentioned before, I was amused by the beverage
> routine at the glass factory where I spent a few weeks between
> leaving school and starting college, coming up for 55 years ago.
>
> From time to time during the shift somebody was sent to the
> canteen with a large cardboard box, and a list of requirements
> along the lines of "2 pints and 2 halves of tea, 3 pints and 2
> halves of coffee".
>
> In the canteen, which was a greasy a dive as ever I have come
> across, the order was fulfilled in the following manner:
>
> Bottles, this being a factory producing them, were taken from a
> stack, usually squash, or pop designs, depending on what was
> being made that day.
>
> Into the first bottle went a green plastic funnel. The brew
> machine tap was opened and tea run into an aged 1 pint enamel
> mug. Milk and sugar were added as required, and stirred briskly
> with a dessert spoon worn triangular by years of use. This was
> then tipped into the funnel. Whilst the first bottle filled, the
> next brew was prepared.
>
> When it came to coffee, the hot water tap on the brew machine was
> used, and the (same) spoon used to measure out a quantity of Camp
> Essence (http://www.sybertooth.com/camp/) into the same mug and
> thence into the funnel.
>
> The order, when complete, was then taken back to the office in
> the cardboard box.
>
> The custom was to swig direct from the bottle, though the
> fastidious could use a jam jar, as these were coming off the line
> at 2 per second.
>
> It was fine once one was used to it, but initially lifting a
> familiar pop bottle to swig a hot brown liquid felt really
> strange.
>
> Chris

Boarding School Tea (I went right off tea at this time) was made thus:
Water was boiled in an urn to which had been added tea leaves, sugar and
milk. The ratio of leaves, sugar and milk would vary, depending which cook
was on duty that time - as would the amount of time the contents of the urn
were boiled / kept warm before serving into metal jugs that were then
distributed at tables in the dining room. The result could be any
combination of hot/cool, sweet/not sweet, very dark brown to whitish in
hue. I never drank tea again.

--
Toodle Pip, Mike McMillan

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 by: John Armstrong - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 08:04 UTC

On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 18:40:17 +0100, Sid Nuncius
<nuncius@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>On 27/04/2022 17:57, steve hague wrote:
>
>> Some of us long for the days of Camp Coffee Essence. Not me, I thought
>> it to be foul stuff.
>
>Frightful! I could never understand why it called itself coffee at all. :o)
>
>(And let's not go into the label...)

I think it is - or certainly was - chicory essence.

And yes, the label, and the way it has changed, is interesting.

Google is your friend - OSEAA - "Camp Coffee Label History".

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 by: Kate B - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 08:10 UTC

On 27/04/2022 18:55, Vicky wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 18:40:17 +0100, Sid Nuncius
> <nuncius@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 27/04/2022 17:57, steve hague wrote:
>>
>>> Some of us long for the days of Camp Coffee Essence. Not me, I thought
>>> it to be foul stuff.
>>
>> Frightful! I could never understand why it called itself coffee at all. :o)
>>
>> (And let's not go into the label...)
>
> Yes unpleasant tasting stuff. I had coffee first when visiting
> Austria as a 10 yar old, staying with aunt and uncle. We had it for
> breakfast and I was proud to have the same as adults, as kids were not
> coffee drinkers then. It was milky as I was a child. I suppose that
> wasmy first memory of how coffee should taste.

Good for coffee flavouring in cakes, though. My late mama's coffee and
walnut cake was utter bliss. Grandpa actually drank the stuff, though I
think that was probably because he was Old Raj vintage himself and the
label reminded him of his glory days.

--
Kate B

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 by: steve hague - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 08:52 UTC

>>
>> Some of us long for the days of Camp Coffee Essence. Not me, I thought
>> it to be foul stuff.
>
> It's still available. I know someone who uses it. You can buy it via
> t'internet and I think Morrisons supermarket stocks it too.
>
> Nick
Indeed Morrisons do, I checked when I did our shopping this morning,
(I'm an early riser), but that means people must be buying it. When
Morrisons first moved into the premises they'd bought or aquired from
Safeway, they had tomato sausages, utterly delicious but never normally
seen outside a ten mile radius of Sheffield city centre. We bought them,
but they'd disappeared from the shelves within a couple of weeks, so
they can't have been popular in this vicinity.
Steve

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 by: Nick Odell - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 10:37 UTC

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 09:52:58 +0100, steve hague
<stevehague82@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>>>
>>> Some of us long for the days of Camp Coffee Essence. Not me, I thought
>>> it to be foul stuff.
>>
>> It's still available. I know someone who uses it. You can buy it via
>> t'internet and I think Morrisons supermarket stocks it too.
>>
>> Nick
>Indeed Morrisons do, I checked when I did our shopping this morning,
>(I'm an early riser), but that means people must be buying it. When
>Morrisons first moved into the premises they'd bought or aquired from
>Safeway, they had tomato sausages, utterly delicious but never normally
>seen outside a ten mile radius of Sheffield city centre. We bought them,
>but they'd disappeared from the shelves within a couple of weeks, so
>they can't have been popular in this vicinity.

Thank you for your dedication and tireless research, Steve. But your
report omits chirality, an essential element of an umra supermarket
report.

I've never purchased Camp Coffee, but our Morrisons (clockwise) is the
only local supermarket that sells blancmange powders. They all seem to
sell "Trifle Kits" but what if you want blancmange on its own?

Nick

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 by: steve hague - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 14:42 UTC

On 28/04/2022 11:37, Nick Odell wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 09:52:58 +0100, steve hague
> <stevehague82@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>>>
>>>> Some of us long for the days of Camp Coffee Essence. Not me, I thought
>>>> it to be foul stuff.
>>>
>>> It's still available. I know someone who uses it. You can buy it via
>>> t'internet and I think Morrisons supermarket stocks it too.
>>>
>>> Nick
>> Indeed Morrisons do, I checked when I did our shopping this morning,
>> (I'm an early riser), but that means people must be buying it. When
>> Morrisons first moved into the premises they'd bought or aquired from
>> Safeway, they had tomato sausages, utterly delicious but never normally
>> seen outside a ten mile radius of Sheffield city centre. We bought them,
>> but they'd disappeared from the shelves within a couple of weeks, so
>> they can't have been popular in this vicinity.
>
> Thank you for your dedication and tireless research, Steve. But your
> report omits chirality, an essential element of an umra supermarket
> report.
>
> I've never purchased Camp Coffee, but our Morrisons (clockwise) is the
> only local supermarket that sells blancmange powders. They all seem to
> sell "Trifle Kits" but what if you want blancmange on its own?
>
> Nick
Sorry for the omission, our Morrisons is counter clockwise. I've never
bought Camp coffee essence either, but I have a vague memory of a
character in TA using it. Was it Martha Woodfull? As for blancmange and
trifle, I don't consider them edible, so wouldn't have looked for them.
Maybe I'm confusing Martha with a TV character of the same period, my
memory probably isn't what it was, but I can't say for sure, I can't
remember what it used to be like.
Steve

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 by: Joe Kerr - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 15:43 UTC

On 28/04/2022 08:02, Chris J Dixon wrote:
> Nick Odell wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 17:57:55 +0100, steve hague
>> <stevehague82@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Some of us long for the days of Camp Coffee Essence. Not me, I thought
>>> it to be foul stuff.
>>
>> It's still available. I know someone who uses it. You can buy it via
>> t'internet and I think Morrisons supermarket stocks it too.
>
> As I'm sure I have mentioned before, I was amused by the beverage
> routine at the glass factory where I spent a few weeks between
> leaving school and starting college, coming up for 55 years ago.
>
> From time to time during the shift somebody was sent to the
> canteen with a large cardboard box, and a list of requirements
> along the lines of "2 pints and 2 halves of tea, 3 pints and 2
> halves of coffee".
>
> In the canteen, which was a greasy a dive as ever I have come
> across, the order was fulfilled in the following manner:
>
> Bottles, this being a factory producing them, were taken from a
> stack, usually squash, or pop designs, depending on what was
> being made that day.
>
> Into the first bottle went a green plastic funnel. The brew
> machine tap was opened and tea run into an aged 1 pint enamel
> mug. Milk and sugar were added as required, and stirred briskly
> with a dessert spoon worn triangular by years of use. This was
> then tipped into the funnel. Whilst the first bottle filled, the
> next brew was prepared.
>
> When it came to coffee, the hot water tap on the brew machine was
> used, and the (same) spoon used to measure out a quantity of Camp
> Essence (http://www.sybertooth.com/camp/) into the same mug and
> thence into the funnel.
>
> The order, when complete, was then taken back to the office in
> the cardboard box.
>
> The custom was to swig direct from the bottle, though the
> fastidious could use a jam jar, as these were coming off the line
> at 2 per second.
>
> It was fine once one was used to it, but initially lifting a
> familiar pop bottle to swig a hot brown liquid felt really
> strange.
>
> Chris

My mother worked in a lab and they got to make their own drinks[1]. She
told of the day that the new trainee was told to make drinks for
everyone. Said trainee went round the team and collected everybody's
order then pulled out a bunsen burner and a large beaker, added the
required quantity of coffee along with the required quantities of milk,
sugar, tea and water and boiled it up. Everybody was then served a
steaming mug of slightly sweet, slightly milky coffee/tea blend.
Education ensued.

[1] Hot only. No fermentation or distillation involved, as far as I'm aware.

--
Ric

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 by: Sam Plusnet - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 18:52 UTC

On 28-Apr-22 15:42, steve hague wrote:
> I've never bought Camp coffee essence either, but I have a vague memory
> of a character in TA using it. Was it Martha Woodfull?

Woodford IIRC.
Would TA commit the sin of advertising?
If not, how would they craft the episode to get the information across
without crossing that line?
That would be a challenge some of the scriptwriters might go for.

--
Sam Plusnet

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 by: Chris J Dixon - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 18:53 UTC

Joe Kerr wrote:

>My mother worked in a lab and they got to make their own drinks[1]. She
>told of the day that the new trainee was told to make drinks for
>everyone. Said trainee went round the team and collected everybody's
>order then pulled out a bunsen burner and a large beaker, added the
>required quantity of coffee along with the required quantities of milk,
>sugar, tea and water and boiled it up. Everybody was then served a
>steaming mug of slightly sweet, slightly milky coffee/tea blend.
>Education ensued.
>
>[1] Hot only. No fermentation or distillation involved, as far as I'm aware.

Is that some sort allegory for the problem with Proportional
Representation?

Chris
--
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 by: J. P. Gilliver (John - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 20:39 UTC

On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 at 19:53:43, Chris J Dixon <chris@cdixon.me.uk>
wrote (my responses usually FOLLOW):
>Joe Kerr wrote:
>
>>My mother worked in a lab and they got to make their own drinks[1]. She
>>told of the day that the new trainee was told to make drinks for
>>everyone. Said trainee went round the team and collected everybody's
>>order then pulled out a bunsen burner and a large beaker, added the
>>required quantity of coffee along with the required quantities of milk,
>>sugar, tea and water and boiled it up. Everybody was then served a
>>steaming mug of slightly sweet, slightly milky coffee/tea blend.
>>Education ensued.
>>
>>[1] Hot only. No fermentation or distillation involved, as far as I'm aware.
>
>Is that some sort allegory for the problem with Proportional
>Representation?
>
>Chris

Whereas under FPTP(TINP!), everybody'd have got (say) coffee, even if
49% hate coffee, with two sugars even if only 30% wanted that, and ...
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Of course, this show - like every other cop show on earth - massively
overstates the prevalence of violent crime: last year, in the whole of the UK,
police fired their weapons just three times. And there were precisely zero
fatalities. - Vincent Graff in RT, 2014/11/8-14

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