I am now the proud owner of a refurbed Dell OptiPlex 3040, running W7 by
request, and with 16GB RAM, Word, huge external drive to, and Video
editor and lots of other goodies.

Paid much to much for it, of course, at £450, but it does come with a
year's guarantee (two free call-outs).

It's the same unit as used by the radio station.

All I need now is Open Reach to put in the fibre optics box on the end
of their cable that they laid outside two years ago.

Tone

On 01/03/2022 13:50, Tone wrote:

> All I need now is Open Reach to put in the fibre optics box on the end
> of their cable that they laid outside two years ago.
>
ROTFLMAO.

As if that's ever going to happen...

Last time, it took them three months to plug me into an existing POTS
socket, and even then they connected me to the wrong pair in the
exchange, and took a month to work out who was getting my calls and why
I couldn't dial out.

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John.

Yes well BT are a pain. A guy near the middle of Kingston had Openreach
passing his house, Virgin was at the end of his road. Virgin connected him
up in two weeks He is still waiting for Openreach to set a date. If a
company wants your custom they have to put themselves out a bit.
Brian

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"Tone" <email@address.com> wrote in message
news:svl8bp$806$1@dont-email.me...
>I am now the proud owner of a refurbed Dell OptiPlex 3040, running W7 by
>request, and with 16GB RAM, Word, huge external drive to, and Video editor
>and lots of other goodies.
>
> Paid much to much for it, of course, at �450, but it does come with a
> year's guarantee (two free call-outs).
>
> It's the same unit as used by the radio station.
>
> All I need now is Open Reach to put in the fibre optics box on the end of
> their cable that they laid outside two years ago.
>
> Tone

On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 07:35:49 -0000, "Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)"
<briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>Yes well BT are a pain. A guy near the middle of Kingston had Openreach
>passing his house, Virgin was at the end of his road. Virgin connected him
>up in two weeks He is still waiting for Openreach to set a date. If a
>company wants your custom they have to put themselves out a bit.

Isn't Openreach different in that regard? They don't want your custom:
they already have a monopoly over the custom of all the telecom
companies who need them.

Nick

On 02/03/2022 11:59, Nick Odell wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 07:35:49 -0000, "Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)"
> <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Yes well BT are a pain. A guy near the middle of Kingston had Openreach
>> passing his house, Virgin was at the end of his road. Virgin connected him
>> up in two weeks He is still waiting for Openreach to set a date. If a
>> company wants your custom they have to put themselves out a bit.
>
> Isn't Openreach different in that regard? They don't want your custom:
> they already have a monopoly over the custom of all the telecom
> companies who need them.

In the early days of ye internet I complained to BT (or what it called
itself then) that my line kept dropping so I had to dial-up again and
again. "We don't support the internet." was the terse reply.

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 18:04:23 +0000
RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:

> In the early days of ye internet I complained to BT (or what it called
> itself then) that my line kept dropping so I had to dial-up again and
> again. "We don't support the internet." was the terse reply.

You had to cnl extra and be a ohfvarff to get a line rated for
modem use for quite a while.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

On 02/03/2022 19:48, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 18:04:23 +0000
> RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> In the early days of ye internet I complained to BT (or what it called
>> itself then) that my line kept dropping so I had to dial-up again and
>> again. "We don't support the internet." was the terse reply.
>
> You had to cnl extra and be a ohfvarff to get a line rated for
> modem use for quite a while.

My terser reply to BT (or whatever it called itself then) was: "You're
incompetent fools, then."

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

On Thu, 3 Mar 2022 01:13:08 +0000
RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:

> On 02/03/2022 19:48, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> > On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 18:04:23 +0000
> > RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.girolle.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> In the early days of ye internet I complained to BT (or what it called
> >> itself then) that my line kept dropping so I had to dial-up again and
> >> again. "We don't support the internet." was the terse reply.
> >
> > You had to cnl extra and be a ohfvarff to get a line rated for
> > modem use for quite a while.
>
> My terser reply to BT (or whatever it called itself then) was: "You're
> incompetent fools, then."

Accurate.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

In article <ismu1h1nlsirg9cnki2kuj8g8bfva3aoqh@4ax.com>, Nick Odell
<nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> on Wed, 2 Mar 2022 at 11:59:16 awoke
Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 07:35:49 -0000, "Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)"
><briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Yes well BT are a pain. A guy near the middle of Kingston had Openreach
>>passing his house, Virgin was at the end of his road. Virgin connected him
>>up in two weeks He is still waiting for Openreach to set a date. If a
>>company wants your custom they have to put themselves out a bit.
>
>Isn't Openreach different in that regard? They don't want your custom:
>they already have a monopoly over the custom of all the telecom
>companies who need them.
>
The monopoly is only part of the problem, although there are now other
suppliers digging up our streets (GNetworks have disrupted our streets
here in Souff Lunnon).

Openreach have a contracts with ISPs not the end user. Openreach are not
interested in the end user experience, and it shows. There are other
examples, the only reason that a number of delivery companies (you know
who you are) are still in business is that same relationship. Their
contracts are with the suppliers of goods not the end user. In many
cases it is more difficult to contact delivery company about deliveries
than it is to contact the successors to the GPO (remember them, another
monopoly supplier).
--
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"Où sont les neiges d'antan?"

On 04/03/2022 09:50, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
> In article <ismu1h1nlsirg9cnki2kuj8g8bfva3aoqh@4ax.com>, Nick Odell
> <nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> on Wed, 2 Mar 2022 at 11:59:16 awoke
> Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>> On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 07:35:49 -0000, "Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)"
>> <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes well BT are a pain. A guy near the middle of Kingston had Openreach
>>> passing his house, Virgin was at the end of his road. Virgin connected him
>>> up in two weeks He is still waiting for Openreach to set a date. If a
>>> company wants your custom they have to put themselves out a bit.
>>
>> Isn't Openreach different in that regard? They don't want your custom:
>> they already have a monopoly over the custom of all the telecom
>> companies who need them.
>>
> The monopoly is only part of the problem, although there are now other
> suppliers digging up our streets (GNetworks have disrupted our streets
> here in Souff Lunnon).
>
> Openreach have a contracts with ISPs not the end user. Openreach are not
> interested in the end user experience, and it shows. There are other
> examples, the only reason that a number of delivery companies (you know
> who you are) are still in business is that same relationship. Their
> contracts are with the suppliers of goods not the end user. In many
> cases it is more difficult to contact delivery company about deliveries
> than it is to contact the successors to the GPO (remember them, another
> monopoly supplier).

You *can't* be referring to Herpes, psurely?

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

In article <svsv4a$gv1$2@dont-email.me>, RustyHinge <rusty.hinge@foobar.
girolle.co.uk> on Fri, 4 Mar 2022 at 12:02:18 awoke Nicholas from his
slumbers and wrote
>On 04/03/2022 09:50, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
>> In article <ismu1h1nlsirg9cnki2kuj8g8bfva3aoqh@4ax.com>, Nick Odell
>> <nick@themusicworkshop.plus.com> on Wed, 2 Mar 2022 at 11:59:16 awoke
>> Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>>> On Wed, 2 Mar 2022 07:35:49 -0000, "Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)"
>>> <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes well BT are a pain. A guy near the middle of Kingston had Openreach
>>>> passing his house, Virgin was at the end of his road. Virgin connected him
>>>> up in two weeks He is still waiting for Openreach to set a date. If a
>>>> company wants your custom they have to put themselves out a bit.
>>>
>>> Isn't Openreach different in that regard? They don't want your custom:
>>> they already have a monopoly over the custom of all the telecom
>>> companies who need them.
>>>
>> The monopoly is only part of the problem, although there are now other
>> suppliers digging up our streets (GNetworks have disrupted our streets
>> here in Souff Lunnon).
>>
>> Openreach have a contracts with ISPs not the end user. Openreach are not
>> interested in the end user experience, and it shows. There are other
>> examples, the only reason that a number of delivery companies (you know
>> who you are) are still in business is that same relationship. Their
>> contracts are with the suppliers of goods not the end user. In many
>> cases it is more difficult to contact delivery company about deliveries
>> than it is to contact the successors to the GPO (remember them, another
>> monopoly supplier).
>
>You *can't* be referring to Herpes, psurely?
>
Shirley not, well shirley not exclusively.
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"Où sont les neiges d'antan?"

On 04/03/2022 09:50, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
>
> Openreach have a contracts with ISPs not the end user. Openreach are not
> interested in the end user experience, and it shows.

Perhaps not at the corporate level, but the engineer who recently came
out to us because there was some erraticness in our broadband was very
thorough, and arranged to come back at a later date to avoid too much
disruption to stepson who was working on "NHS" test & trace at the time.
We were getting somewhere near the speed we should have been but he
noticed an imbalance somewhere and wanted to put it right.