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* WARNPASS: IETs grounded across all operators 08/05/21Recliner
`* WARNPASS: IETs grounded across all operators 08/05/21Sam Wilson
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Re: WARNPASS: IETs grounded across all operators 08/05/21

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From: recliner...@gmail.com (Recliner)
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Subject: Re: WARNPASS: IETs grounded across all operators 08/05/21
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 09:17:19 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: Recliner - Thu, 3 Jun 2021 09:17 UTC

Latest crack news:
<https://www.railjournal.com/in_depth/cracks-halt-britains-entire-class-80x-fleet>

Re: WARNPASS: IETs grounded across all operators 08/05/21

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From: ukr...@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk (Sam Wilson)
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Subject: Re: WARNPASS: IETs grounded across all operators 08/05/21
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 by: Sam Wilson - Thu, 3 Jun 2021 09:28 UTC

Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
> Latest crack news:
> <https://www.railjournal.com/in_depth/cracks-halt-britains-entire-class-80x-fleet>
>

Fascinating - thank you.

“... the problem is not consistent with a certain vehicle type, whether it
is five-car or nine-car, or the age of the train.”

“The extent that individual trains are lifted has been investigated but
ruled out as a potential cause as no correlation was found. As was
operation of the trains in coastal areas and their exposure to salt water.
The specific aluminium metallurgy used for the class 80X trains were based
on those used on the class 395 EMUs Hitachi built for Southeastern, which
have been in service since 2009, operating in a similar coastal environment
to the 802s with no similar issues reported. [though the design of both the
yaw dampers and the lifting points has been changed]”

Sam

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Re: WARNPASS: IETs grounded across all operators 08/05/21

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 by: Recliner - Thu, 3 Jun 2021 09:55 UTC

Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> wrote:
> Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Latest crack news:
>> <https://www.railjournal.com/in_depth/cracks-halt-britains-entire-class-80x-fleet>
>>
>
> Fascinating - thank you.
>
> “... the problem is not consistent with a certain vehicle type, whether it
> is five-car or nine-car, or the age of the train.”
>
> “The extent that individual trains are lifted has been investigated but
> ruled out as a potential cause as no correlation was found. As was
> operation of the trains in coastal areas and their exposure to salt water.
> The specific aluminium metallurgy used for the class 80X trains were based
> on those used on the class 395 EMUs Hitachi built for Southeastern, which
> have been in service since 2009, operating in a similar coastal environment
> to the 802s with no similar issues reported. [though the design of both the
> yaw dampers and the lifting points has been changed]”
>

I'd have thought that the significantly greater length and weight of the
class 800 carriages vs the 395s was the most relevant factor. That's
probably why the bracket designs were changed, but the stresses are
probably still greater.

Re: WARNPASS: IETs grounded across all operators 08/05/21

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Subject: Re: WARNPASS: IETs grounded across all operators 08/05/21
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 by: Recliner - Thu, 3 Jun 2021 15:14 UTC

Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> wrote:
> Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Latest crack news:
>> <https://www.railjournal.com/in_depth/cracks-halt-britains-entire-class-80x-fleet>
>>
>
> Fascinating - thank you.
>
> “... the problem is not consistent with a certain vehicle type, whether it
> is five-car or nine-car, or the age of the train.”
>
> “The extent that individual trains are lifted has been investigated but
> ruled out as a potential cause as no correlation was found. As was
> operation of the trains in coastal areas and their exposure to salt water.
> The specific aluminium metallurgy used for the class 80X trains were based
> on those used on the class 395 EMUs Hitachi built for Southeastern, which
> have been in service since 2009, operating in a similar coastal environment
> to the 802s with no similar issues reported. [though the design of both the
> yaw dampers and the lifting points has been changed]”

I see from Rail that the cracking pandemic has spread to the class 88s,
with all but one of Chiltern's small fleet having to be withdrawn.

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