Mail attachment. FFOX HTML doc. 357kB pdf

Printer refuses to print complaining about insufficient memory.

On previous similar occasions, printing from a saved version has worked.
Not this time. W7 pro

Any suggestions. I suppose I could ask them to post in a different
format.
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Tim Lamb

Tim Lamb <tim@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Mail attachment. FFOX HTML doc. 357kB pdf
>
> Printer refuses to print complaining about insufficient memory.
>
> On previous similar occasions, printing from a saved version has worked.
> Not this time. W7 pro
>
> Any suggestions. I suppose I could ask them to post in a different
> format.

Save the HTML and print from another browser?

When faced with an 'awkward' PDF, one thing that sometimes works is to
roundtrip it PDF -> Postscript -> PDF, as it shakes out a lot of the PDF
weird stuff (encryption, forms, etc). I use Ghostscript to do that:

pdf2ps input.pdf middle.ps
ps2pdf middle.ps output.pdf

Theo

On 09/12/2022 15:17, Tim Lamb wrote:
> Mail attachment. FFOX HTML doc. 357kB pdf
>
> Printer refuses to print complaining about insufficient memory.

What does it look like in a PDF editor? Try opening it in PDF exchange
or even Word and then resave as another name.
>
> On previous similar occasions, printing from a saved version has worked.
> Not this time. W7 pro
>
> Any suggestions. I suppose I could ask them to post in a different format.

Chances are an insanely large vector, JPG or bitmap image is embedded in
the PDF so that it literally causes the printer to run out of memory.

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Martin Brown

On 09/12/2022 15:17, Tim Lamb wrote:
> Mail attachment. FFOX HTML doc. 357kB pdf
>
> Printer refuses to print complaining about insufficient memory.
>
> On previous similar occasions, printing from a saved version has worked.
> Not this time. W7 pro
>
> Any suggestions. I suppose I could ask them to post in a different format.

Is it multi-page or just big images?

If multi page, print ranges, if big images open in e.g. gimp and resize them

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higher education positively fortifies it."

- Stephen Vizinczey

In message <tmvkce$1v60$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Martin Brown
<'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> writes
>On 09/12/2022 15:17, Tim Lamb wrote:
>> Mail attachment. FFOX HTML doc. 357kB pdf
>> Printer refuses to print complaining about insufficient memory.
>
>What does it look like in a PDF editor? Try opening it in PDF exchange
>or even Word and then resave as another name.
>> On previous similar occasions, printing from a saved version has
>>worked. Not this time. W7 pro
>> Any suggestions. I suppose I could ask them to post in a different
>>format.
>
>Chances are an insanely large vector, JPG or bitmap image is embedded
>in the PDF so that it literally causes the printer to run out of memory.

Hmm. It includes their company logo on each page and there is a copy of
a photo I sent them.
>

--
Tim Lamb

In message <tmvkc4$16jqg$1@dont-email.me>, The Natural Philosopher
<tnp@invalid.invalid> writes
>On 09/12/2022 15:17, Tim Lamb wrote:
>> Mail attachment. FFOX HTML doc. 357kB pdf
>> Printer refuses to print complaining about insufficient memory.
>> On previous similar occasions, printing from a saved version has
>>worked. Not this time. W7 pro
>> Any suggestions. I suppose I could ask them to post in a different
>>format.
>
>Is it multi-page or just big images?

Just 5 pages of print.
>
>If multi page, print ranges, if big images open in e.g. gimp and resize them
>

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In message <VYq*Uun5y@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, Theo
<theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes
>Tim Lamb <tim@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> Mail attachment. FFOX HTML doc. 357kB pdf
>>
>> Printer refuses to print complaining about insufficient memory.
>>
>> On previous similar occasions, printing from a saved version has worked.
>> Not this time. W7 pro
>>
>> Any suggestions. I suppose I could ask them to post in a different
>> format.
>
>Save the HTML and print from another browser?
>
>When faced with an 'awkward' PDF, one thing that sometimes works is to
>roundtrip it PDF -> Postscript -> PDF, as it shakes out a lot of the PDF
>weird stuff (encryption, forms, etc). I use Ghostscript to do that:
>
>pdf2ps input.pdf middle.ps
>ps2pdf middle.ps output.pdf

I knew this would get tricky! I'll try a different browser. Chrome must
be useful for something.

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Tim Lamb

In message <EZFq2W5H71kjFwnL@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk>, Tim Lamb
<tim@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> writes
>In message <VYq*Uun5y@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, Theo
><theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes
>>Tim Lamb <tim@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Mail attachment. FFOX HTML doc. 357kB pdf
>>>
>>> Printer refuses to print complaining about insufficient memory.
>>>
>>> On previous similar occasions, printing from a saved version has worked.
>>> Not this time. W7 pro
>>>
>>> Any suggestions. I suppose I could ask them to post in a different
>>> format.
>>
>>Save the HTML and print from another browser?
>>
>>When faced with an 'awkward' PDF, one thing that sometimes works is to
>>roundtrip it PDF -> Postscript -> PDF, as it shakes out a lot of the PDF
>>weird stuff (encryption, forms, etc). I use Ghostscript to do that:
>>
>>pdf2ps input.pdf middle.ps
>>ps2pdf middle.ps output.pdf
>
>I knew this would get tricky! I'll try a different browser. Chrome must
>be useful for something.

Well, there you go. Prints ok in Chrome!!

Thanks all.
>

--
Tim Lamb

On 09/12/2022 15:17, Tim Lamb wrote:
> Mail attachment. FFOX HTML doc. 357kB pdf
>
> Printer refuses to print complaining about insufficient memory.
>
> On previous similar occasions, printing from a saved version has worked.
> Not this time. W7 pro
>
> Any suggestions. I suppose I could ask them to post in a different format.

Try opening the saved version in a different PDF reader

Try Sumatra PDF - Free

https://www.sumatrapdfreader.org/free-pdf-reader

It's got me out of a few problems that Adobe has made a meal of.

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In message <jvh799Ft93nU1@mid.individual.net>, alan_m
<junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> writes
>On 09/12/2022 15:17, Tim Lamb wrote:
>> Mail attachment. FFOX HTML doc. 357kB pdf
>> Printer refuses to print complaining about insufficient memory.
>> On previous similar occasions, printing from a saved version has
>>worked. Not this time. W7 pro
>> Any suggestions. I suppose I could ask them to post in a different
>>format.
>
>
>Try opening the saved version in a different PDF reader
>
>Try Sumatra PDF - Free
>
>https://www.sumatrapdfreader.org/free-pdf-reader
>
>It's got me out of a few problems that Adobe has made a meal of.

Printed ok in Chrome. I've pinned your link for future problems. Ta.
>

--
Tim Lamb

On 09/12/2022 16:25, Tim Lamb wrote:
> In message <EZFq2W5H71kjFwnL@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk>, Tim Lamb
> <tim@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> writes
>> In message <VYq*Uun5y@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, Theo
>> <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes
>>> Tim Lamb <tim@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> Mail attachment. FFOX HTML doc. 357kB pdf
>>>>
>>>> Printer refuses to print complaining about insufficient memory.
>>>>
>>>> On previous similar occasions, printing from a saved version has
>>>> worked.
>>>> Not this time. W7 pro
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions. I suppose I could ask them to post in a different
>>>> format.
>>>
>>> Save the HTML and print from another browser?
>>>
>>> When faced with an 'awkward' PDF, one thing that sometimes works is to
>>> roundtrip it PDF -> Postscript -> PDF, as it shakes out a lot of the PDF
>>> weird stuff (encryption, forms, etc).  I use Ghostscript to do that:
>>>
>>> pdf2ps input.pdf middle.ps
>>> ps2pdf middle.ps output.pdf
>>
>> I knew this would get tricky! I'll try a different browser. Chrome
>> must be useful for something.
>
> Well, there you go. Prints ok in Chrome!!
>
> Thanks all.
>>
>

There is also Edge (allegedly also a variant of Chrome)

On 09/12/2022 16:25, Tim Lamb wrote:
> In message <EZFq2W5H71kjFwnL@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk>, Tim Lamb
> <tim@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> writes
>> In message <VYq*Uun5y@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, Theo
>> <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes
>>> Tim Lamb <tim@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> Mail attachment. FFOX HTML doc. 357kB pdf
>>>>
>>>> Printer refuses to print complaining about insufficient memory.
>>>>
>>>> On previous similar occasions, printing from a saved version has
>>>> worked.
>>>> Not this time. W7 pro
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions. I suppose I could ask them to post in a different
>>>> format.
>>>
>>> Save the HTML and print from another browser?
>>>
>>> When faced with an 'awkward' PDF, one thing that sometimes works is to
>>> roundtrip it PDF -> Postscript -> PDF, as it shakes out a lot of the PDF
>>> weird stuff (encryption, forms, etc).  I use Ghostscript to do that:
>>>
>>> pdf2ps input.pdf middle.ps
>>> ps2pdf middle.ps output.pdf
>>
>> I knew this would get tricky! I'll try a different browser. Chrome
>> must be useful for something.
>
> Well, there you go. Prints ok in Chrome!!

The embedded PDF readers in browsers are somewhat less sophisticated
than the stand alone ones - so just saving and opening in Adobe reader
or Foxit reader etc will often fix it.

You can also try printing it to a PDF printer driver (older version of
foxit reader for Win 7), then try that PDF on a real printer.

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John.

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On 12/9/2022 11:25 AM, Tim Lamb wrote:
> In message <EZFq2W5H71kjFwnL@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk>, Tim Lamb <tim@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> writes
>> In message <VYq*Uun5y@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes
>>> Tim Lamb <tim@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> Mail attachment. FFOX HTML doc. 357kB pdf
>>>>
>>>> Printer refuses to print complaining about insufficient memory.
>>>>
>>>> On previous similar occasions, printing from a saved version has worked.
>>>> Not this time. W7 pro
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions. I suppose I could ask them to post in a different
>>>> format.
>>>
>>> Save the HTML and print from another browser?
>>>
>>> When faced with an 'awkward' PDF, one thing that sometimes works is to
>>> roundtrip it PDF -> Postscript -> PDF, as it shakes out a lot of the PDF
>>> weird stuff (encryption, forms, etc).  I use Ghostscript to do that:
>>>
>>> pdf2ps input.pdf middle.ps
>>> ps2pdf middle.ps output.pdf
>>
>> I knew this would get tricky! I'll try a different browser. Chrome must be useful for something.
>
> Well, there you go. Prints ok in Chrome!!
>
> Thanks all.
>>
>

Maybe your printer needs more memory :-)

If the printer has a Test Page, some of the
Test Page outputs include a summary of the memory present
in the printer. You may have a Test Page that was
printed some time ago, so you don't have to waste
another sheet to check.

Printers generally have one SIMM or DIMM socket,
with maybe a lock latch or two (to release the device).

So when you do a capacity upgrade, you get to keep the original
piece of memory in the antistatic bag the new one
comes in. Printers don't usually have a multitude of
memory slots for this sort of upgrade.

Just "pull the 32MB one and insert a 64MB one", as
an example of an upgrade. You do that with the power
off on the printer (so no power in memory socket).
The memory is keyed, so it only "seats" in the socket
one way, and jams the other way. Make sure you work
in good lighting, so you can see the details during
removal.

Generally, the memory devices have tiny capacity. If a person
ever upgrades one of these silly printers, they just
stuff the "max value" the printer takes. Done.
It will be as much time and trouble to find a 256MB
one as a 64MB one, because the memory type is likely ancient.

Not all printer types work this way, but some do.
And printing the Test Page (printer controls), is a start.
I don't think my inkjet for example, has any user replaceable
electronic parts in it. But then, the inkjet also does not
complain about running out of memory, "so we're even".

Printing on the two printer types, works differently.
The inkjet can stop if it needs to, and buffer up more
data if it likes. Other printer types "cannot stop".
Thus they emit these geriatric complaints about memory.

I used to put up with this stuff at work, many years ago.
That out of memory thing.

Paul

Have you saved it and loaded into word. I use an oldish version of word,
and then save it as a .doc.
Brian

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"Tim Lamb" <tim@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:AaPbW82vF1kjFwna@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk...
> Mail attachment. FFOX HTML doc. 357kB pdf
>
> Printer refuses to print complaining about insufficient memory.
>
> On previous similar occasions, printing from a saved version has worked.
> Not this time. W7 pro
>
> Any suggestions. I suppose I could ask them to post in a different format.
> --
> Tim Lamb

In message <tn128e$1tti$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
writes
>On 12/9/2022 11:25 AM, Tim Lamb wrote:
>> In message <EZFq2W5H71kjFwnL@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk>, Tim Lamb
>><tim@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> writes
>>> In message <VYq*Uun5y@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, Theo
>>><theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes
>>>> Tim Lamb <tim@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> Mail attachment. FFOX HTML doc. 357kB pdf
>>>>>
>>>>> Printer refuses to print complaining about insufficient memory.
>>>>>
>>>>> On previous similar occasions, printing from a saved version has worked.
>>>>> Not this time. W7 pro
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions. I suppose I could ask them to post in a different
>>>>> format.
>>>>
>>>> Save the HTML and print from another browser?
>>>>
>>>> When faced with an 'awkward' PDF, one thing that sometimes works is to
>>>> roundtrip it PDF -> Postscript -> PDF, as it shakes out a lot of the PDF
>>>> weird stuff (encryption, forms, etc).  I use Ghostscript to do that:
>>>>
>>>> pdf2ps input.pdf middle.ps
>>>> ps2pdf middle.ps output.pdf
>>>
>>> I knew this would get tricky! I'll try a different browser. Chrome
>>>must be useful for something.
>> Well, there you go. Prints ok in Chrome!!
>> Thanks all.
>>>
>>
>
>Maybe your printer needs more memory :-)

That reads like a big step for my technical capability. Having finally
found how to print a test page, I can say it doesn't appear to include
any reference to memory. Long list of drivers:-(

Machine is an Epson ET-2650 inkjet. Jet clogging so far has been better
than previous versions.

--
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In message <tn1dci$1k2b1$1@dont-email.me>, Brian Gaff
<brian1gaff@gmail.com> writes
>Have you saved it and loaded into word. I use an oldish version of word,
>and then save it as a .doc.

Not tried that. Don't normally get this attachment format.

--
Tim Lamb

On 12/10/2022 5:08 AM, Tim Lamb wrote:
> In message <tn128e$1tti$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> writes
>> On 12/9/2022 11:25 AM, Tim Lamb wrote:
>>> In message <EZFq2W5H71kjFwnL@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk>, Tim Lamb <tim@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> writes
>>>> In message <VYq*Uun5y@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes
>>>>> Tim Lamb <tim@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> Mail attachment. FFOX HTML doc. 357kB pdf
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Printer refuses to print complaining about insufficient memory.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On previous similar occasions, printing from a saved version has worked.
>>>>>> Not this time. W7 pro
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any suggestions. I suppose I could ask them to post in a different
>>>>>> format.
>>>>>
>>>>> Save the HTML and print from another browser?
>>>>>
>>>>> When faced with an 'awkward' PDF, one thing that sometimes works is to
>>>>> roundtrip it PDF -> Postscript -> PDF, as it shakes out a lot of the PDF
>>>>> weird stuff (encryption, forms, etc).  I use Ghostscript to do that:
>>>>>
>>>>> pdf2ps input.pdf middle.ps
>>>>> ps2pdf middle.ps output.pdf
>>>>
>>>> I knew this would get tricky! I'll try a different browser. Chrome must be useful for something.
>>>  Well, there you go. Prints ok in Chrome!!
>>>  Thanks all.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> Maybe your printer needs more memory :-)
>
> That reads like a big step for my technical capability. Having finally found how to print a test page, I can say it doesn't appear to include any reference to memory. Long list of drivers:-(
>
> Machine is an Epson ET-2650 inkjet. Jet clogging so far has been better than previous versions.
>

One of their lasers has a page about memory messages.

https://files.support.epson.com/htmldocs/cx11nf/cx11nfug/trbep_5.htm

*******

I wouldn't think an inkjet would have such things (a DIMM for example).

https://lancashiremonochrome.com/2018/03/24/epson-printer-problems/

"... oversize .AUD file in the program data. The file name is
EPAUDF01.AUD – Deleting this file fixed the problem immediately."

C:\ProgramData\EPSON\PRINTER

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/2985888

"This is on a Windows 7 64 system with Epson 3880 locally connected
via USB but I think it has wider application.

The problem was that Epson in its wisdom creates a file:

C:\ProgramData\EPSON\PRINTER\EPAUDF01.AUD

Normally it's just a couple of K, however it can grow to
megabytes and results in the above symptoms. To cure it,
I just deleted the file. It was recreated back to 2K and
everything now runs smoothly.

I have no idea what's in the file, it's a binary file I
can't read, and I have no idea what causes it to grow
so large, but that's what happens."

ProgramData is not the same as Program Files. The program
keeps temporary assets in there or state info.

Maybe the .AUD has something to do with spooling ?

Paul

On Sat, 10 Dec 2022 08:16:52 -0500, Paul wrote:

> One of their lasers has a page about memory messages.
>
> https://files.support.epson.com/htmldocs/cx11nf/cx11nfug/trbep_5.htm
>
> *******
>
> I wouldn't think an inkjet would have such things (a DIMM for example).

I had a rebadged IBM (Olivetti?) that took DIMMs. Definitely inkjet.

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In message <tn20s3$k2p$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
writes
>On 12/10/2022 5:08 AM, Tim Lamb wrote:
>> In message <tn128e$1tti$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Paul
>><nospam@needed.invalid> writes
>>> On 12/9/2022 11:25 AM, Tim Lamb wrote:
>>>> In message <EZFq2W5H71kjFwnL@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk>, Tim Lamb
>>>><tim@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> writes
>>>>> In message <VYq*Uun5y@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, Theo
>>>>><theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes
>>>>>> Tim Lamb <tim@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> Mail attachment. FFOX HTML doc. 357kB pdf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Printer refuses to print complaining about insufficient memory.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On previous similar occasions, printing from a saved version has worked.
>>>>>>> Not this time. W7 pro
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any suggestions. I suppose I could ask them to post in a different
>>>>>>> format.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Save the HTML and print from another browser?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When faced with an 'awkward' PDF, one thing that sometimes works is to
>>>>>> roundtrip it PDF -> Postscript -> PDF, as it shakes out a lot of the PDF
>>>>>> weird stuff (encryption, forms, etc).  I use Ghostscript to do that:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> pdf2ps input.pdf middle.ps
>>>>>> ps2pdf middle.ps output.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>> I knew this would get tricky! I'll try a different browser. Chrome
>>>>>must be useful for something.
>>>>  Well, there you go. Prints ok in Chrome!!
>>>>  Thanks all.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe your printer needs more memory :-)
>> That reads like a big step for my technical capability. Having
>>finally found how to print a test page, I can say it doesn't appear to
>>include any reference to memory. Long list of drivers:-(
>> Machine is an Epson ET-2650 inkjet. Jet clogging so far has been
>>better than previous versions.
>>
>
>One of their lasers has a page about memory messages.

Stretching my capabilities there:-) I could probably manage a reinstall
or just wait for the problem to worsen.
Snip

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On 12/10/2022 9:05 AM, Bob Eager wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Dec 2022 08:16:52 -0500, Paul wrote:
>
>> One of their lasers has a page about memory messages.
>>
>> https://files.support.epson.com/htmldocs/cx11nf/cx11nfug/trbep_5.htm
>>
>> *******
>>
>> I wouldn't think an inkjet would have such things (a DIMM for example).
>
> I had a rebadged IBM (Olivetti?) that took DIMMs. Definitely inkjet.
>

An inkjet can stop the transport if it wants, and
prepare for the next segment of the page.

On lasers, the transport seemed to be smoother. No
audio sounds of stepper motors in it. Once the page
printing process starts, it has to finish.

The first laser we interfaced to at work, it had a video
interface, sync signals, and a 2Mbit/sec video signal. And
that was used to modulate a HeNe laser (and presumably a
rotating mirror inside). The laser printer in that case,
was as dumb as a post. No CPU. No Ethernet either. Like
driving a TV set (almost). It's worst feature was that
the drum was easy to scratch, and replacement glass drums
were very expensive. It used liquid toner (toner particles
suspended in an organic solvent, flammable). We never had
a fire. Shocking :-) You could still smoke in the office
back then.

Paul

On 10/12/2022 10:08, Tim Lamb wrote:
> In message <tn128e$1tti$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
> writes
>> On 12/9/2022 11:25 AM, Tim Lamb wrote:
>>> In message <EZFq2W5H71kjFwnL@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk>, Tim Lamb
>>> <tim@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> writes
>>>> In message <VYq*Uun5y@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, Theo
>>>> <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes
>>>>> Tim Lamb <tim@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> Mail attachment. FFOX HTML doc. 357kB pdf
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Printer refuses to print complaining about insufficient memory.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On previous similar occasions, printing from a saved version has
>>>>>> worked.
>>>>>> Not this time. W7 pro
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any suggestions. I suppose I could ask them to post in a different
>>>>>> format.
>>>>>
>>>>> Save the HTML and print from another browser?
>>>>>
>>>>> When faced with an 'awkward' PDF, one thing that sometimes works is to
>>>>> roundtrip it PDF -> Postscript -> PDF, as it shakes out a lot of
>>>>> the PDF
>>>>> weird stuff (encryption, forms, etc).  I use Ghostscript to do that:
>>>>>
>>>>> pdf2ps input.pdf middle.ps
>>>>> ps2pdf middle.ps output.pdf
>>>>
>>>> I knew this would get tricky! I'll try a different browser. Chrome
>>>> must be useful for something.
>>>  Well, there you go. Prints ok in Chrome!!
>>>  Thanks all.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> Maybe your printer needs more memory :-)
>
> That reads like a big step for my technical capability. Having finally
> found how to print a test page, I can say it doesn't appear to include
> any reference to memory. Long list of drivers:-(
>
> Machine is an Epson ET-2650 inkjet. Jet clogging so far has been better
> than previous versions.

Inkjets probably use the computer to render the print job anyway, so it
is computer memory that is used rather than printer memory.

(The test page that would tell you is not the windows one - that just
tests printing and shows what drivers windows is using - you would need
the printers own test page. You may be able to get it from the printers
menu if it has a display.

(used to be easier when you just turned it off, held down the "on line"
button and turned it back on!)

--
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John.

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In message <tna756$2hr52$2@dont-email.me>, John Rumm
<see.my.signature@nowhere.null> writes
>On 10/12/2022 10:08, Tim Lamb wrote:
>> In message <tn128e$1tti$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Paul
>><nospam@needed.invalid> writes
>>> On 12/9/2022 11:25 AM, Tim Lamb wrote:
>>> Maybe your printer needs more memory :-)
>> That reads like a big step for my technical capability. Having
>>finally found how to print a test page, I can say it doesn't appear
>>to include any reference to memory. Long list of drivers:-(
>> Machine is an Epson ET-2650 inkjet. Jet clogging so far has been
>>better than previous versions.
>
>Inkjets probably use the computer to render the print job anyway, so it
>is computer memory that is used rather than printer memory.
>
>(The test page that would tell you is not the windows one - that just
>tests printing and shows what drivers windows is using - you would need
>the printers own test page. You may be able to get it from the printers
>menu if it has a display.
>
>(used to be easier when you just turned it off, held down the "on line"
>button and turned it back on!)

Technology is getting a bit beyond itself:-(

Using a browser other than Firefox works and may be a clue to the
problem. There is also an issue over sending format. Jpeg has never been
a problem. These attachments arrived as .pdf but saved as Firefox HTML
(all Greek anyway)

--
Tim Lamb

On 13/12/2022 16:35, Tim Lamb wrote:
> In message <tna756$2hr52$2@dont-email.me>, John Rumm
> <see.my.signature@nowhere.null> writes
>> On 10/12/2022 10:08, Tim Lamb wrote:
>>> In message <tn128e$1tti$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Paul
>>> <nospam@needed.invalid>  writes
>>>> On 12/9/2022 11:25 AM, Tim Lamb wrote:
>>>> Maybe your printer needs more memory :-)
>>>  That reads like a big step for my technical capability. Having
>>> finally  found how to print a test page, I can say it doesn't appear
>>> to include  any reference to memory. Long list of drivers:-(
>>>  Machine is an Epson ET-2650 inkjet. Jet clogging so far has been
>>> better  than previous versions.
>>
>> Inkjets probably use the computer to render the print job anyway, so
>> it is computer memory that is used rather than printer memory.
>>
>> (The test page that would tell you is not the windows one - that just
>> tests printing and shows what drivers windows is using - you would
>> need the printers own test page. You may be able to get it from the
>> printers menu if it has a display.
>>
>> (used to be easier when you just turned it off, held down the "on
>> line" button and turned it back on!)
>
> Technology is getting a bit beyond itself:-(
>
> Using a browser other than Firefox works and may be a clue to the
> problem. There is also an issue over sending format. Jpeg has never been
> a problem. These attachments arrived as .pdf but saved as Firefox HTML
> (all Greek anyway)

It used to be that to view a PDF you needed to install PDF software like
Adobe reader or Acrobat Reader as it was. Lately web browsers of all
flavours have started shipping with PDF rendering capability built in,
and the likes of Edge seem quite aggressive at setting themselves as the
default PDF reader app on the system. They do tend to differ in
performance somewhat. Not always giving exactly the same capabilities,
and some using more system resources than others.

I tend to find when it comes to printing etc, the browser based options
tend to be somewhat less capable than the dedicated PDF applications.

--
Cheers,

John.

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