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* Is the word "retard' a derogatory termSusan Cohen
+- Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termJohnN
+* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termTony Cooper
|`* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termSusan Cohen
| `* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termRichard Heathfield
|  `* Re: A REAL Senile Troll-feeding ASSHOLE! LOLSusan Cohen
|   `* Re: A REAL Senile Troll-feeding ASSHOLE! LOLMack A. Damia
|    `* Re: A REAL Senile Troll-feeding ASSHOLE! LOLMack A. Damia
|     +* Re: Mack A. Dumb Alert! LOLMack A. Damia
|     |+* Re: Mack A. Dumb Alert! LOLCursitor Doom
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|     || `* Re: And yet another Mack A. Dumb Alert! LOLMack A. Damia
|     ||  `* Re: And yet another Mack A. Dumb Alert! LOLCursitor Doom
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|     `* Re: Peeler is A REAL Senile Troll ASSHOLE! LOLSusan Cohen
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+* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termRichard Heathfield
|`* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termThe Natural Philosopher
| +* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termJeff Gaines
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| `* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termRichard Heathfield
|  `* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termThe Natural Philosopher
|   `- Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termchop
+* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termCursitor Doom
|+* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termMack A. Damia
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|||||||`* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termMack A. Damia
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||||||| |`- Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termMack A. Damia
||||||| `* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termVir Campestris
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|||||||  `- Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termThe Natural Philosopher
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|||| `* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termMack A. Damia
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||||   `- Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termMack A. Damia
|||`- Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termThe Natural Philosopher
||`* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termThe Natural Philosopher
|| `* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termMack A. Damia
||  `* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termThe Natural Philosopher
||   `* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termMack A. Damia
||    `* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termThe Natural Philosopher
||     `- Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termMack A. Damia
|+* Re: Troll-feeding Senile ASSHOLE Alert! LOLSusan Cohen
||`* Re: Troll-feeding Senile ASSHOLE Alert! LOLThe Natural Philosopher
|| +- Re: Troll-feeding Senile ASSHOLE Alert! LOLKen Blake
|| +* Re: Troll-feeding Senile NATURAL IDIOT Alert!Susan Cohen
|| |+- Re: Troll-feeding Senile NATURAL IDIOT Alert!Richard Heathfield
|| |`- Re: Troll-feeding Senile NATURAL IDIOT Alert!Ken Blake
|| `- Re: Troll-feeding Senile ASSHOLE Alert! LOLBob Martin
|`* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termDan Green
| `* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termMax Demian
|  +* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termSusan Cohen
|  |`- Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termjim.gm4dhj
|  `- Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termCursitor Doom
+* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termJim Stewart ...
|+- Re: Troll-feeding Senile ASSHOLE Alert!Jim Stewart ...
|`* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termCursitor Doom
| +* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termThe Natural Philosopher
| |`- Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termFredxx
| `* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termCustos Custodum
|  `* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termCursitor Doom
|   +- Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termThe Natural Philosopher
|   `* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termCustos Custodum
|    +* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termMax Demian
|    |+* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termRod Speed
|    ||`* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termMax Demian
|    || `* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termRod Speed
|    ||  `* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termMax Demian
|    ||   `* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termRod Speed
|    ||    `* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termMax Demian
|    |`* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termCursitor Doom
|    +- Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termThe Natural Philosopher
|    `* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termCursitor Doom
+- Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termThe Natural Philosopher
+- Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termJohn J
+- Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termScott
+- Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termFredxx
+* Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termBrian Gaff
+- Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termJNugent
+- Re: Is the word "retard' a derogatory termR D S
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 by: Susan Cohen - Wed, 14 Dec 2022 21:08 UTC

I very recently referred to another person posting in this group as
being "retarded'. I wasn't implying that he made strange noises as he
was drooling uncontrollably. The point I was making was that this
person was being an idiot. Is 'retarded on that now PC list of words
you can no longer say in polite company, like 'Oriental' and 'midget'?

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 by: JohnN - Wed, 14 Dec 2022 21:13 UTC

On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 16:08:28 -0500, Susan Cohen <thickirish@cunt.com>
wrote:

>I very recently referred to another person posting in this group as
>being "retarded'. I wasn't implying that he made strange noises as he
>was drooling uncontrollably. The point I was making was that this
>person was being an idiot. Is 'retarded on that now PC list of words
>you can no longer say in polite company, like 'Oriental' and 'midget'?

Could be

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 by: Tony Cooper - Wed, 14 Dec 2022 21:38 UTC

On Wed, 14 Dec 22 21:08:30 UTC, Susan Cohen <thickirish@cunt.com>
wrote:

>I very recently referred to another person posting in this group as
>being "retarded'. I wasn't implying that he made strange noises as he
>was drooling uncontrollably. The point I was making was that this
>person was being an idiot. Is 'retarded on that now PC list of words
>you can no longer say in polite company, like 'Oriental' and 'midget'?

Normally, "retarded" is very deprecated word. You really should not
use it when replying to someone when you strongly disagree with that
person's position or statement.

However, I suspect you are referring to "boso de niro". "boso de
niro" is a troll who posts with the deliberate intent of provoking
people.

The better course is to simply ignore boso de niro's posts and not
respond at all. Ignoring him deprives him of the attention he seeks.
Replying to him is playing into his hands.

If you follow alt.usage.english (the newsgroup that I see your post
in) you'll notice that "regulars" in this group ignore his posts. I
notice that you are cross-posting in two other groups. I don't know
what is done in those groups.

--

Tony Cooper - Orlando Florida

I read and post to this group as a form of entertainment.

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 by: Richard Heathfield - Wed, 14 Dec 2022 21:40 UTC

On 14/12/2022 9:08 pm, Susan Cohen wrote:
> I very recently referred to another person posting in this group as
> being "retarded'. I wasn't implying that he made strange noises as he
> was drooling uncontrollably. The point I was making was that this
> person was being an idiot. Is 'retarded on that now PC list of words
> you can no longer say in polite company, like 'Oriental' and 'midget'?

Why abdicate your freedom of speech? Let other people decide what
words they use, and decide for yourself what words you use.

As for 'retarded', I use the word purely in the sense of
deceleration --- a reduction in physical speed. It has never been
a word I would choose to use to describe a human (except, just
possibly, if they're in the act of braking).

But you do you. Don't let arrogant bullies constrain your language.

--
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

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 by: Cursitor Doom - Wed, 14 Dec 2022 22:26 UTC

On Wed, 14 Dec 22 21:08:30 UTC, Susan Cohen <thickirish@cunt.com>
wrote:

>I very recently referred to another person posting in this group as
>being "retarded'. I wasn't implying that he made strange noises as he
>was drooling uncontrollably. The point I was making was that this
>person was being an idiot. Is 'retarded on that now PC list of words
>you can no longer say in polite company, like 'Oriental' and 'midget'?

There are no proscribed words in the English language. There *are*
words, however, which Lefties have tried to proscribe and "retard" is
one of them. The word sprung into mass usage during the Premiership of
Labour's Gordon Brown - for very good reasons. My father fought
against Hitler on principles such as free speech and I'm not about to
have his sacrifice nullified by a bunch of gutless Commies who would
run a mile if confronted by a genuine Nazi. Free speech! Yay!

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 by: Mack A. Damia - Wed, 14 Dec 2022 22:41 UTC

On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 22:26:40 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 14 Dec 22 21:08:30 UTC, Susan Cohen <thickirish@cunt.com>
>wrote:
>
>>I very recently referred to another person posting in this group as
>>being "retarded'. I wasn't implying that he made strange noises as he
>>was drooling uncontrollably. The point I was making was that this
>>person was being an idiot. Is 'retarded on that now PC list of words
>>you can no longer say in polite company, like 'Oriental' and 'midget'?
>
>There are no proscribed words in the English language. There *are*
>words, however, which Lefties have tried to proscribe and "retard" is
>one of them. The word sprung into mass usage during the Premiership of
>Labour's Gordon Brown - for very good reasons. My father fought
>against Hitler on principles such as free speech and I'm not about to
>have his sacrifice nullified by a bunch of gutless Commies who would
>run a mile if confronted by a genuine Nazi. Free speech! Yay!

Interesting comment. Why?

Because it reveals that you are so full of shit, your brain has been
displaced to your ass.

You know absolutely nothing about "communism" and, probably, "Nazism".

They are just hot-button words that imbeciles such as you like to
throw around to try to scare people.

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 by: Cursitor Doom - Wed, 14 Dec 2022 22:50 UTC

On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 14:41:19 -0800, Mack A. Damia
<drsteerforth@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 22:26:40 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 14 Dec 22 21:08:30 UTC, Susan Cohen <thickirish@cunt.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>I very recently referred to another person posting in this group as
>>>being "retarded'. I wasn't implying that he made strange noises as he
>>>was drooling uncontrollably. The point I was making was that this
>>>person was being an idiot. Is 'retarded on that now PC list of words
>>>you can no longer say in polite company, like 'Oriental' and 'midget'?
>>
>>There are no proscribed words in the English language. There *are*
>>words, however, which Lefties have tried to proscribe and "retard" is
>>one of them. The word sprung into mass usage during the Premiership of
>>Labour's Gordon Brown - for very good reasons. My father fought
>>against Hitler on principles such as free speech and I'm not about to
>>have his sacrifice nullified by a bunch of gutless Commies who would
>>run a mile if confronted by a genuine Nazi. Free speech! Yay!
>
>Interesting comment. Why?
>
>Because it reveals that you are so full of shit, your brain has been
>displaced to your ass.
>
>You know absolutely nothing about "communism" and, probably, "Nazism".
>
>They are just hot-button words that imbeciles such as you like to
>throw around to try to scare people.

Well, I'm seeing plenty of hot air from you but zero reasoned
response. What is your problem with freedom of speech? Pray tell us...

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 by: Mack A. Damia - Wed, 14 Dec 2022 23:32 UTC

On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 22:50:42 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 14:41:19 -0800, Mack A. Damia
><drsteerforth@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 22:26:40 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 14 Dec 22 21:08:30 UTC, Susan Cohen <thickirish@cunt.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>I very recently referred to another person posting in this group as
>>>>being "retarded'. I wasn't implying that he made strange noises as he
>>>>was drooling uncontrollably. The point I was making was that this
>>>>person was being an idiot. Is 'retarded on that now PC list of words
>>>>you can no longer say in polite company, like 'Oriental' and 'midget'?
>>>
>>>There are no proscribed words in the English language. There *are*
>>>words, however, which Lefties have tried to proscribe and "retard" is
>>>one of them. The word sprung into mass usage during the Premiership of
>>>Labour's Gordon Brown - for very good reasons. My father fought
>>>against Hitler on principles such as free speech and I'm not about to
>>>have his sacrifice nullified by a bunch of gutless Commies who would
>>>run a mile if confronted by a genuine Nazi. Free speech! Yay!
>>
>>Interesting comment. Why?
>>
>>Because it reveals that you are so full of shit, your brain has been
>>displaced to your ass.
>>
>>You know absolutely nothing about "communism" and, probably, "Nazism".
>>
>>They are just hot-button words that imbeciles such as you like to
>>throw around to try to scare people.
>
>Well, I'm seeing plenty of hot air from you but zero reasoned
>response. What is your problem with freedom of speech? Pray tell us...

Along with you, little babies and children enjoy "freedom of speech".
Bu what you don't undertstand and never will is that "freedom"
necessitates "responsibility".

And it always helps if the speaker knows what he is talking about. You
don't.

Like this, fella. One of my publications:

https://eric.ed.gov/?pg=3&q=start+AND+mobility&id=ED348262

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 by: Cursitor Doom - Wed, 14 Dec 2022 23:53 UTC

On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 15:32:30 -0800, Mack A. Damia
<drsteerforth@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 22:50:42 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 14:41:19 -0800, Mack A. Damia
>><drsteerforth@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 22:26:40 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 14 Dec 22 21:08:30 UTC, Susan Cohen <thickirish@cunt.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I very recently referred to another person posting in this group as
>>>>>being "retarded'. I wasn't implying that he made strange noises as he
>>>>>was drooling uncontrollably. The point I was making was that this
>>>>>person was being an idiot. Is 'retarded on that now PC list of words
>>>>>you can no longer say in polite company, like 'Oriental' and 'midget'?
>>>>
>>>>There are no proscribed words in the English language. There *are*
>>>>words, however, which Lefties have tried to proscribe and "retard" is
>>>>one of them. The word sprung into mass usage during the Premiership of
>>>>Labour's Gordon Brown - for very good reasons. My father fought
>>>>against Hitler on principles such as free speech and I'm not about to
>>>>have his sacrifice nullified by a bunch of gutless Commies who would
>>>>run a mile if confronted by a genuine Nazi. Free speech! Yay!
>>>
>>>Interesting comment. Why?
>>>
>>>Because it reveals that you are so full of shit, your brain has been
>>>displaced to your ass.
>>>
>>>You know absolutely nothing about "communism" and, probably, "Nazism".
>>>
>>>They are just hot-button words that imbeciles such as you like to
>>>throw around to try to scare people.
>>
>>Well, I'm seeing plenty of hot air from you but zero reasoned
>>response. What is your problem with freedom of speech? Pray tell us...
>
>Along with you, little babies and children enjoy "freedom of speech".
>Bu what you don't undertstand and never will is that "freedom"
>necessitates "responsibility".
>
>And it always helps if the speaker knows what he is talking about. You
>don't.
>
>Like this, fella. One of my publications:
>
>https://eric.ed.gov/?pg=3&q=start+AND+mobility&id=ED348262
>

Okay, well if you say I don't know what I'm talking about then the
only proper course of action for me is to withdraw from this debate
and leave it to the readers to make up their own minds as to which of
us is in the right. I trust you will do the same if you are a person
of honour.
Au Revoir!

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 by: Mack A. Damia - Thu, 15 Dec 2022 00:25 UTC

On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 23:53:30 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 15:32:30 -0800, Mack A. Damia
><drsteerforth@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 22:50:42 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 14:41:19 -0800, Mack A. Damia
>>><drsteerforth@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 22:26:40 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 14 Dec 22 21:08:30 UTC, Susan Cohen <thickirish@cunt.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I very recently referred to another person posting in this group as
>>>>>>being "retarded'. I wasn't implying that he made strange noises as he
>>>>>>was drooling uncontrollably. The point I was making was that this
>>>>>>person was being an idiot. Is 'retarded on that now PC list of words
>>>>>>you can no longer say in polite company, like 'Oriental' and 'midget'?
>>>>>
>>>>>There are no proscribed words in the English language. There *are*
>>>>>words, however, which Lefties have tried to proscribe and "retard" is
>>>>>one of them. The word sprung into mass usage during the Premiership of
>>>>>Labour's Gordon Brown - for very good reasons. My father fought
>>>>>against Hitler on principles such as free speech and I'm not about to
>>>>>have his sacrifice nullified by a bunch of gutless Commies who would
>>>>>run a mile if confronted by a genuine Nazi. Free speech! Yay!
>>>>
>>>>Interesting comment. Why?
>>>>
>>>>Because it reveals that you are so full of shit, your brain has been
>>>>displaced to your ass.
>>>>
>>>>You know absolutely nothing about "communism" and, probably, "Nazism".
>>>>
>>>>They are just hot-button words that imbeciles such as you like to
>>>>throw around to try to scare people.
>>>
>>>Well, I'm seeing plenty of hot air from you but zero reasoned
>>>response. What is your problem with freedom of speech? Pray tell us...
>>
>>Along with you, little babies and children enjoy "freedom of speech".
>>Bu what you don't undertstand and never will is that "freedom"
>>necessitates "responsibility".
>>
>>And it always helps if the speaker knows what he is talking about. You
>>don't.
>>
>>Like this, fella. One of my publications:
>>
>>https://eric.ed.gov/?pg=3&q=start+AND+mobility&id=ED348262
>>
>
>Okay, well if you say I don't know what I'm talking about then the
>only proper course of action for me is to withdraw from this debate
>and leave it to the readers to make up their own minds as to which of
>us is in the right. I trust you will do the same if you are a person
>of honour.
>Au Revoir!

Ladies and gentlemen, this little boi who is posting such nonsense is
a good example of the Dunning-Kruger Effect in action.

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 by: Susan Cohen - Thu, 15 Dec 2022 04:13 UTC

On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 16:38:15 -0500, Tony Cooper
<tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 14 Dec 22 21:08:30 UTC, Susan Cohen <thickirish@cunt.com>
>wrote:
>
>>I very recently referred to another person posting in this group as
>>being "retarded'. I wasn't implying that he made strange noises as he
>>was drooling uncontrollably. The point I was making was that this
>>person was being an idiot. Is 'retarded on that now PC list of words
>>you can no longer say in polite company, like 'Oriental' and 'midget'?
>
>
>Normally, "retarded" is very deprecated word. You really should not
>use it when replying to someone when you strongly disagree with that
>person's position or statement.
>
>However, I suspect you are referring to "boso de niro". "boso de
>niro" is a troll who posts with the deliberate intent of provoking
>people.
>
>The better course is to simply ignore boso de niro's posts and not
>respond at all. Ignoring him deprives him of the attention he seeks.
>Replying to him is playing into his hands.
>
>If you follow alt.usage.english (the newsgroup that I see your post
>in) you'll notice that "regulars" in this group ignore his posts. I
>notice that you are cross-posting in two other groups. I don't know
>what is done in those groups.

He and his sidekick "Peeler' have infested both groups with their vile
lies and hatreds. This is why I mostly just read, not post.

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 by: Richard Heathfield - Thu, 15 Dec 2022 05:35 UTC

On 15/12/2022 4:13 am, Susan Cohen wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 16:38:15 -0500, Tony Cooper
> <tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 14 Dec 22 21:08:30 UTC, Susan Cohen <thickirish@cunt.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I very recently referred to another person posting in this group as
>>> being "retarded'. I wasn't implying that he made strange noises as he
>>> was drooling uncontrollably. The point I was making was that this
>>> person was being an idiot. Is 'retarded on that now PC list of words
>>> you can no longer say in polite company, like 'Oriental' and 'midget'?
>>
>>
>> Normally, "retarded" is very deprecated word. You really should not
>> use it when replying to someone when you strongly disagree with that
>> person's position or statement.
>>
>> However, I suspect you are referring to "boso de niro". "boso de
>> niro" is a troll who posts with the deliberate intent of provoking
>> people.
>>
>> The better course is to simply ignore boso de niro's posts and not
>> respond at all. Ignoring him deprives him of the attention he seeks.
>> Replying to him is playing into his hands.
>>
>> If you follow alt.usage.english (the newsgroup that I see your post
>> in) you'll notice that "regulars" in this group ignore his posts. I
>> notice that you are cross-posting in two other groups. I don't know
>> what is done in those groups.
>
>
> He and his sidekick "Peeler' have infested both groups with their vile
> lies and hatreds. This is why I mostly just read, not post.

Just killfile the idiots, and they need never trouble you again.

--
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

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 by: Jim Stewart ... - Thu, 15 Dec 2022 07:17 UTC

On 14/12/2022 21:08, Susan Cohen wrote:
> I very recently referred to another person posting in this group as
> being "retarded'. I wasn't implying that he made strange noises as he
> was drooling uncontrollably. The point I was making was that this
> person was being an idiot. Is 'retarded on that now PC list of words
> you can no longer say in polite company, like 'Oriental' and 'midget'?
>
black coffee chinky darky

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 by: soup - Thu, 15 Dec 2022 07:59 UTC

On 15/12/2022 00:25, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 23:53:30 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
> wrote:

>> Okay, well if you say I don't know what I'm talking about then the
>> only proper course of action for me is to withdraw from this debate
>> and leave it to the readers to make up their own minds as to which of
>> us is in the right. I trust you will do the same if you are a person
>> of honour.
>> Au Revoir!
>
> Ladies and gentlemen, this little boi who is posting such nonsense is
> a good example of the Dunning-Kruger Effect in action.

I know neither you nor Cursitor, but I noticed you needed to get the
last word in.

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 by: Richard Heathfield - Thu, 15 Dec 2022 08:29 UTC

On 15/12/2022 7:59 am, soup wrote:
> On 15/12/2022 00:25, Mack A. Damia wrote:
>> On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 23:53:30 +0000, Cursitor Doom
>> <cd@notformail.com>
>> wrote:
>
>>> Okay, well if you say I don't know what I'm talking about then
>>> the
>>> only proper course of action for me is to withdraw from this
>>> debate
>>> and leave it to the readers to make up their own minds as to
>>> which of
>>> us is in the right. I trust you will do the same if you are a
>>> person
>>> of honour.
>>> Au Revoir!
>>
>> Ladies and gentlemen, this little boi who is posting such
>> nonsense is
>> a good example of the Dunning-Kruger Effect in action.
>
> I know neither you nor Cursitor, but I noticed you needed to get
> the last word in.

This is Usenet. The last word might be decades away.

--
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

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 by: The Natural Philosop - Thu, 15 Dec 2022 09:50 UTC

On 14/12/2022 21:08, Susan Cohen wrote:
> I very recently referred to another person posting in this group as
> being "retarded'. I wasn't implying that he made strange noises as he
> was drooling uncontrollably. The point I was making was that this
> person was being an idiot. Is 'retarded on that now PC list of words
> you can no longer say in polite company, like 'Oriental' and 'midget'?
>
Alle is verboten.

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 by: The Natural Philosop - Thu, 15 Dec 2022 09:51 UTC

On 14/12/2022 21:40, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> On 14/12/2022 9:08 pm, Susan Cohen wrote:
>> I very recently referred to another person posting in this group as
>> being "retarded'. I wasn't implying that he made strange noises as he
>> was drooling uncontrollably. The point I was making was that this
>> person was being an idiot. Is 'retarded on that now PC list of words
>> you can no longer say in polite company, like 'Oriental' and 'midget'?
>
> Why abdicate your freedom of speech? Let other people decide what words
> they use, and decide for yourself what words you use.
>
> As for 'retarded', I use the word purely in the sense of deceleration
> --- a reduction in physical speed. It has never been a word I would
> choose to use to describe a human (except, just possibly, if they're in
> the act of braking).
>
> But you do you. Don't let arrogant bullies constrain your language.
>
'mentally retarded' was originally the 'polite' term for a moron.

Now its impolite. Sigh.

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 by: The Natural Philosop - Thu, 15 Dec 2022 09:54 UTC

On 14/12/2022 22:41, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> You know absolutely nothing about "communism" and, probably, "Nazism".
>
> They are just hot-button words that imbeciles such as you like to
> throw around to try to scare people.

I suspect the person who knows nothing about either is in fact you.
Both movements featured extreme repression of opposing views and the
outlawing of certain things, including descriptive words., and the
ostracism of those holding different views, which is precisely what your
post seeks to do.

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 by: The Natural Philosop - Thu, 15 Dec 2022 09:56 UTC

On 14/12/2022 22:50, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>> You know absolutely nothing about "communism" and, probably, "Nazism".
>>
>> They are just hot-button words that imbeciles such as you like to
>> throw around to try to scare people.
> Well, I'm seeing plenty of hot air from you but zero reasoned
> response. What is your problem with freedom of speech? Pray tell us...

That he cannot find a reasoned argument to support his position, so
resorts to argument by statement and ad hominem.

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 by: The Natural Philosop - Thu, 15 Dec 2022 09:57 UTC

On 14/12/2022 23:32, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 22:50:42 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 14:41:19 -0800, Mack A. Damia
>> <drsteerforth@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 22:26:40 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 14 Dec 22 21:08:30 UTC, Susan Cohen <thickirish@cunt.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I very recently referred to another person posting in this group as
>>>>> being "retarded'. I wasn't implying that he made strange noises as he
>>>>> was drooling uncontrollably. The point I was making was that this
>>>>> person was being an idiot. Is 'retarded on that now PC list of words
>>>>> you can no longer say in polite company, like 'Oriental' and 'midget'?
>>>>
>>>> There are no proscribed words in the English language. There *are*
>>>> words, however, which Lefties have tried to proscribe and "retard" is
>>>> one of them. The word sprung into mass usage during the Premiership of
>>>> Labour's Gordon Brown - for very good reasons. My father fought
>>>> against Hitler on principles such as free speech and I'm not about to
>>>> have his sacrifice nullified by a bunch of gutless Commies who would
>>>> run a mile if confronted by a genuine Nazi. Free speech! Yay!
>>>
>>> Interesting comment. Why?
>>>
>>> Because it reveals that you are so full of shit, your brain has been
>>> displaced to your ass.
>>>
>>> You know absolutely nothing about "communism" and, probably, "Nazism".
>>>
>>> They are just hot-button words that imbeciles such as you like to
>>> throw around to try to scare people.
>>
>> Well, I'm seeing plenty of hot air from you but zero reasoned
>> response. What is your problem with freedom of speech? Pray tell us...
>
> Along with you, little babies and children enjoy "freedom of speech".
> Bu what you don't undertstand and never will is that "freedom"
> necessitates "responsibility".
>
> And it always helps if the speaker knows what he is talking about. You
> don't.
>
> Like this, fella. One of my publications:
>
> https://eric.ed.gov/?pg=3&q=start+AND+mobility&id=ED348262
>
>
ROFLMAO ! A marxist academic in full denial

--
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....than to have answers that cannot be questioned

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 by: The Natural Philosop - Thu, 15 Dec 2022 09:57 UTC

On 15/12/2022 00:25, Mack A. Damia wrote:
> Ladies and gentlemen, this little boi who is posting such nonsense is
> a good example of the Dunning-Kruger Effect in action.
Ladies and gentlemen, this little boi who is posting such nonsense is
a good example of the Dunning-Kruger Effect in action.
--
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....than to have answers that cannot be questioned

Richard Feynman

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 by: Jeff Gaines - Thu, 15 Dec 2022 10:52 UTC

On 15/12/2022 in message <tneqnn$32eg3$2@dont-email.me> The Natural
Philosopher wrote:

>>Why abdicate your freedom of speech? Let other people decide what words
>>they use, and decide for yourself what words you use.
>>
>>As for 'retarded', I use the word purely in the sense of deceleration ---
>>a reduction in physical speed. It has never been a word I would choose to
>>use to describe a human (except, just possibly, if they're in the act of
>>braking).
>>
>>But you do you. Don't let arrogant bullies constrain your language.
>>
>'mentally retarded' was originally the 'polite' term for a moron.
>
>Now its impolite. Sigh.

I think "mong" was an alternative. The modern terminology seems to be a
person with learning difficulties.

For the sake of correctness "person" includes all or any genders currently
known or unknown.

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
The true meaning of life is to plant trees under whose shade you do not
expect to sit.

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 by: Jim Stewart ... - Thu, 15 Dec 2022 11:13 UTC

On 15/12/2022 08:16, Peeler wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Dec 2022 07:17:31 +0000, Dim Stewfart ... , the dim troll-feeding
> senile idiot, blathered:
>
>
>> black coffee chinky darky
>
> Well, farted again, you exceptionally retarded prize idiot! <BG>
shocking use of the word retarded...

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 by: Richard Heathfield - Thu, 15 Dec 2022 11:59 UTC

On 15/12/2022 9:51 am, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 14/12/2022 21:40, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>> On 14/12/2022 9:08 pm, Susan Cohen wrote:
>>> I very recently referred to another person posting in this
>>> group as
>>> being "retarded'. I wasn't implying that he made strange
>>> noises as he
>>> was drooling uncontrollably. The point I was making was that this
>>> person was being an idiot. Is 'retarded on that now PC list of
>>> words
>>> you can no longer say in polite company, like 'Oriental' and
>>> 'midget'?
>>
>> Why abdicate your freedom of speech? Let other people decide
>> what words they use, and decide for yourself what words you use.
>>
>> As for 'retarded', I use the word purely in the sense of
>> deceleration --- a reduction in physical speed. It has never
>> been a word I would choose to use to describe a human (except,
>> just possibly, if they're in the act of braking).
>>
>> But you do you. Don't let arrogant bullies constrain your
>> language.
>>
> 'mentally retarded' was originally the 'polite' term for a moron.
>
> Now its impolite. Sigh.

It's called the "euphemism treadmill". Euphemisms have a limited
lifespan before themselves becoming taboo and needing to be
euphemised.

--
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

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 by: John J - Thu, 15 Dec 2022 12:32 UTC

On Wednesday, 14 December 2022 at 21:13:17 UTC, Susan Cohen wrote:
> I very recently referred to another person posting in this group as
> being "retarded'. I wasn't implying that he made strange noises as he
> was drooling uncontrollably. The point I was making was that this
> person was being an idiot. Is 'retarded on that now PC list of words
> you can no longer say in polite company, like 'Oriental' and 'midget'?

I prefer variations on the theme. Dullard and Greentard fit well to some of my requirements.


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