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* Cycling and life expectancy 1949-2019Spike
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From: Aero.Sp...@mail.invalid (Spike)
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Subject: Cycling and life expectancy 1949-2019
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2022 11:12:22 +0000
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 by: Spike - Sat, 9 Apr 2022 11:12 UTC

TL;DR

1949-2019

Cycling down by 80%

Life expectancy up by 20%

Details:

1949...Cycle traffic.....15 billion miles

<https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/741953/road-traffic-estimates-in-great-britain-2017.pdf>

1951...Life expectancy...66.4 men...71.5 women

<https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/lifeexpectancies/articles/howhaslifeexpectancychangedovertime/2015-09-09>

2019...Cycle traffic...3.5 billion miles

<https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/916749/road-traffic-estimates-in-great-britain-2019.pdf>

2019...Life expectancy...79.4 men...83.1...women

<https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/lifeexpectancies/bulletins/nationallifetablesunitedkingdom/2017to2019#life-expectancy-at-birth-in-the-uk>

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From: muzhm...@centrum.sk (Peter Keller)
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Subject: Re: Cycling and life expectancy 1949-2019
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2022 20:43:24 +1200
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 by: Peter Keller - Sun, 10 Apr 2022 08:43 UTC

On 9/04/22 23:12, Spike wrote:
> TL;DR
>
> 1949-2019
>
> Cycling down by 80%
>
> Life expectancy up by 20%
>
>
> Details:
>
> 1949...Cycle traffic.....15 billion miles
>
> <https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/741953/road-traffic-estimates-in-great-britain-2017.pdf>
>
> 1951...Life expectancy...66.4 men...71.5 women
>
> <https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/lifeexpectancies/articles/howhaslifeexpectancychangedovertime/2015-09-09>
>
> 2019...Cycle traffic...3.5 billion miles
>
> <https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/916749/road-traffic-estimates-in-great-britain-2019.pdf>
>
> 2019...Life expectancy...79.4 men...83.1...women
>
> <https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/lifeexpectancies/bulletins/nationallifetablesunitedkingdom/2017to2019#life-expectancy-at-birth-in-the-uk>
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Post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy.

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From: Aero.Sp...@mail.invalid (Spike)
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Subject: Re: Cycling and life expectancy 1949-2019
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 by: Spike - Sun, 10 Apr 2022 09:27 UTC

On 10/04/2022 08:43, Peter Keller wrote:
> On 9/04/22 23:12, Spike wrote:

>> TL;DR

>> 1949-2019

>> Cycling down by 80%

>> Life expectancy up by 20%

>> Details:

>> 1949...Cycle traffic.....15 billion miles

>> <https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/741953/road-traffic-estimates-in-great-britain-2017.pdf>

>> 1951...Life expectancy...66.4 men...71.5 women

>> <https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/lifeexpectancies/articles/howhaslifeexpectancychangedovertime/2015-09-09>

>> 2019...Cycle traffic...3.5 billion miles

>> <https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/916749/road-traffic-estimates-in-great-britain-2019.pdf>

>> 2019...Life expectancy...79.4 men...83.1...women

>> <https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/lifeexpectancies/bulletins/nationallifetablesunitedkingdom/2017to2019#life-expectancy-at-birth-in-the-uk>

> Post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy.

Rubbish. The data run - if I can use the phrase in a cycling group - in
tandem.

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Spike

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From: muzhm...@centrum.sk (Peter Keller)
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Subject: Re: Cycling and life expectancy 1949-2019
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2022 21:58:49 +1200
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 by: Peter Keller - Mon, 11 Apr 2022 09:58 UTC

On 10/04/22 21:27, Spike wrote:
> On 10/04/2022 08:43, Peter Keller wrote:
>> On 9/04/22 23:12, Spike wrote:
>
>>> TL;DR
>
>>> 1949-2019
>
>>> Cycling down by 80%
>
>>> Life expectancy up by 20%
>
>>> Details:
>
>>> 1949...Cycle traffic.....15 billion miles
>
>>> <https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/741953/road-traffic-estimates-in-great-britain-2017.pdf>
>
>>> 1951...Life expectancy...66.4 men...71.5 women
>
>>> <https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/lifeexpectancies/articles/howhaslifeexpectancychangedovertime/2015-09-09>
>
>>> 2019...Cycle traffic...3.5 billion miles
>
>>> <https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/916749/road-traffic-estimates-in-great-britain-2019.pdf>
>
>>> 2019...Life expectancy...79.4 men...83.1...women
>
>>> <https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/lifeexpectancies/bulletins/nationallifetablesunitedkingdom/2017to2019#life-expectancy-at-birth-in-the-uk>
>
>> Post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy.
>
> Rubbish. The data run - if I can use the phrase in a cycling group - in
> tandem.
>
>
Still no proof one caused the other.

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Subject: Re: Cycling and life expectancy 1949-2019
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2022 15:49:58 +0000
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 by: Spike - Mon, 11 Apr 2022 15:49 UTC

On 11/04/2022 09:58, Peter Keller wrote:
> On 10/04/22 21:27, Spike wrote:
>> On 10/04/2022 08:43, Peter Keller wrote:
>>> On 9/04/22 23:12, Spike wrote:

>>>> TL;DR

>>>> 1949-2019

>>>> Cycling down by 80%

>>>> Life expectancy up by 20%

>>>> Details:

>>>> 1949...Cycle traffic.....15 billion miles

>>>> <https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/741953/road-traffic-estimates-in-great-britain-2017.pdf>

>>>> 1951...Life expectancy...66.4 men...71.5 women

>>>> <https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/lifeexpectancies/articles/howhaslifeexpectancychangedovertime/2015-09-09>

>>>> 2019...Cycle traffic...3.5 billion miles

>>>> <https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/916749/road-traffic-estimates-in-great-britain-2019.pdf>

>>>> 2019...Life expectancy...79.4 men...83.1...women

>>>> <https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/lifeexpectancies/bulletins/nationallifetablesunitedkingdom/2017to2019#life-expectancy-at-birth-in-the-uk>

>>> Post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy.

>> Rubbish. The data run - if I can use the phrase in a cycling group - in
>> tandem.

> Still no proof one caused the other.

I'm sure that in a little while the group's knee-jerker will be along
with what he naively believes is proof that cycling makes you healthy.
It'll be a hoot. Ask him why the one is dependent on the other, rather
than his quoting things he doesn't understand.

All he then needs to do is explain why cycling fell by 80% in the
twenty-year period from 1950 to 1969, and in the subsequent 50+ years
essentially remained at that level despite life expectancy continuing to
be extended by significant amounts to its current unprecedented levels

--
Spike

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From: muzhm...@centrum.sk (Peter Keller)
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Subject: Re: Cycling and life expectancy 1949-2019
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 by: Peter Keller - Tue, 12 Apr 2022 09:37 UTC

On 12/04/22 03:49, Spike wrote:
> On 11/04/2022 09:58, Peter Keller wrote:
>> On 10/04/22 21:27, Spike wrote:
>>> On 10/04/2022 08:43, Peter Keller wrote:
>>>> On 9/04/22 23:12, Spike wrote:
>
>>>>> TL;DR
>
>>>>> 1949-2019
>
>>>>> Cycling down by 80%
>
>>>>> Life expectancy up by 20%
>
>>>>> Details:
>
>>>>> 1949...Cycle traffic.....15 billion miles
>
>>>>> <https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/741953/road-traffic-estimates-in-great-britain-2017.pdf>
>
>>>>> 1951...Life expectancy...66.4 men...71.5 women
>
>>>>> <https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/lifeexpectancies/articles/howhaslifeexpectancychangedovertime/2015-09-09>
>
>>>>> 2019...Cycle traffic...3.5 billion miles
>
>>>>> <https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/916749/road-traffic-estimates-in-great-britain-2019.pdf>
>
>>>>> 2019...Life expectancy...79.4 men...83.1...women
>
>>>>> <https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/lifeexpectancies/bulletins/nationallifetablesunitedkingdom/2017to2019#life-expectancy-at-birth-in-the-uk>
>
>>>> Post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy.
>
>>> Rubbish. The data run - if I can use the phrase in a cycling group - in
>>> tandem.
>
>> Still no proof one caused the other.
>
> I'm sure that in a little while the group's knee-jerker will be along
> with what he naively believes is proof that cycling makes you healthy.
> It'll be a hoot. Ask him why the one is dependent on the other, rather
> than his quoting things he doesn't understand.
>
> All he then needs to do is explain why cycling fell by 80% in the
> twenty-year period from 1950 to 1969, and in the subsequent 50+ years
> essentially remained at that level despite life expectancy continuing to
> be extended by significant amounts to its current unprecedented levels
>
>
You ask him/her.

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