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* OT: Covid Vaccine Still Killing PeopleCursitor Doom
+- Re: OT: Covid Vaccine Still Killing PeopleColin Bignell
+* Re: OT: Covid Vaccine Still Killing PeoplePaul
|+* Re: OT: Covid Vaccine Still Killing Peoplealan_m
||`- Re: OT: Covid Vaccine Still Killing PeopleTim Streater
|`- Re: OT: Covid Vaccine Still Killing PeopleJohn Rumm
`- Re: Covid Vaccine Still Killing PeopleBrian Gaff

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Subject: OT: Covid Vaccine Still Killing People
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 by: Cursitor Doom - Wed, 14 Dec 2022 15:03 UTC

The truth continues to emerge.....

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1709123/tory-mp-covid-vaccine-inflaming-heart-arteries-commons-debate-update

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 by: Colin Bignell - Wed, 14 Dec 2022 15:49 UTC

On 14/12/2022 15:03, Cursitor Doom wrote:
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> The truth continues to emerge.....
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> https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1709123/tory-mp-covid-vaccine-inflaming-heart-arteries-commons-debate-update

An assertion made under Parliamentary Privilege by a man facing possible
suspension from the Commons for breaking the rules on lobbying and about
whom a Court has found that he "lied under oath and behaved in an
abusive, arrogant and aggressive manner", was "an unreliable and
combative witness who tried to conceal his own misconduct", and "gave
evasive and argumentative answers and tangential speeches that avoided
answering the questions". I don't think any claims he makes can be
considered credible without any supporting evidence.

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Colin Bignell

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 by: Paul - Thu, 15 Dec 2022 08:52 UTC

On 12/14/2022 10:03 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
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> The truth continues to emerge.....
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> https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1709123/tory-mp-covid-vaccine-inflaming-heart-arteries-commons-debate-update
>
It was covered in the news some time ago.
A date listed below (public airing), is April 2021.

I would not exactly call that a coverup,
if it hits the news.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/myocarditis.html

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/clinical-considerations/myocarditis.html

"Summary

In April 2021, increased cases of myocarditis and pericarditis were reported
in the United States after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination (Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna).

Data from multiple studies show a rare risk for myocarditis and/or pericarditis
following receipt of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines. These rare cases of myocarditis or
pericarditis have occurred most frequently in adolescent and young adult males,
ages 16 years and older, within 7 days after receiving the second dose of an
mRNA COVID-19 vaccine (Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna)."

It's possible the first reports came from Europe. The attention to it in
the States, was not there originally. But they did look through the
raw reporting system, for the signal.

This one gives a rate. This is the rate of "cases", where the
cases can range from mild to severe. "Deaths" is not listed.
In the first report of cases, there might have been 30 cases
and 1 death (continue with your Googles and you might find
the first report). Treatment for the people involved has improved
considerably, simply because it's been added to the flow
chart for the condition ("did individual have recent MRNA vaccine").

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/risk-of-heart-inflammation-higher-with-moderna-vaccine-study-1.6153060

"Researchers then calculated the rate of heart inflammation, and found there
were 35.6 cases per million for Moderna and 12.6 per million for Pfizer –
a nearly threefold difference."

When I got my booster this fall, I was thinking about this report while
standing in the line. But being an old fart, my risk is lower.

And this is the quote you should be paying attention to.

"A recent study found that the risk of developing myocarditis
is seven times higher with a COVID-19 infection than a vaccine dose."
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

It's like Epstein Barre, vaccines are checked for it during vaccine design,
but the condition also arises on its own in the general population.
And then the "additional signal" has to be distinguished from
the normal background levels in the population. Even before COVID,
there were people down in the nuclear medicine bunkers being
scanned for myocarditis and pericarditis.

Paul

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Subject: Re: Covid Vaccine Still Killing People
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 by: Brian Gaff - Thu, 15 Dec 2022 14:15 UTC

Everything is a risk these days. I mean the number of people it has killed
will be minute against the number it has saved. The reaction could be the
simple result of an allergic reaction.
Brian

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> The truth continues to emerge.....
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> https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1709123/tory-mp-covid-vaccine-inflaming-heart-arteries-commons-debate-update

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 by: alan_m - Thu, 15 Dec 2022 15:46 UTC

On 15/12/2022 08:52, Paul wrote:
> On 12/14/2022 10:03 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>>
>> The truth continues to emerge.....
>>
>> https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1709123/tory-mp-covid-vaccine-inflaming-heart-arteries-commons-debate-update
>>
> It was covered in the news some time ago.
> A date listed below (public airing), is April 2021.
>

And also covered in this group the last time this information was posted.

The conspiracy theorists tweeted that Florida Surgeon General's Covid
Vaccine Warning had been censored and that he had recommended against
the mrna covid 19 vaccines.

A tiny bit of searching revealed that the Florida Surgeon General
information hadn't been censored and he had stated that the benefits of
having this vaccine far outweighed the risks but people with an existing
heart condition possibly should consider a different type of covid vaccine.

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 by: Tim Streater - Thu, 15 Dec 2022 16:41 UTC

On 15 Dec 2022 at 15:46:28 GMT, "alan_m" <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

> On 15/12/2022 08:52, Paul wrote:
>> On 12/14/2022 10:03 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>>>
>>> The truth continues to emerge.....
>>>
>>> https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1709123/tory-mp-covid-vaccine-inflaming-heart-arteries-commons-debate-update
>>>
>> It was covered in the news some time ago.
>> A date listed below (public airing), is April 2021.
>>
>
> And also covered in this group the last time this information was posted.
>
> The conspiracy theorists tweeted that Florida Surgeon General's Covid
> Vaccine Warning had been censored and that he had recommended against
> the mrna covid 19 vaccines.
>
> A tiny bit of searching revealed that the Florida Surgeon General
> information hadn't been censored and he had stated that the benefits of
> having this vaccine far outweighed the risks but people with an existing
> heart condition possibly should consider a different type of covid vaccine.

So, more of Mr. Doom's vaccine bollocks.

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 by: John Rumm - Sun, 18 Dec 2022 13:48 UTC

On 15/12/2022 08:52, Paul wrote:

> And this is the quote you should be paying attention to.
>
>    "A recent study found that the risk of developing myocarditis
>     is seven times higher with a COVID-19 infection than a vaccine dose."
>       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Much like the observation regarding AZ and blood clots... you are 1000
times more likely to die of a blood clot from COVID itself than you are
from the vaccine.

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