On 14 Dec 2022 11:26:15 GMT
Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> wrote:

> On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 09:26:24 +0000, charles wrote:
>
> > In article <jvsccbFpdc9U10@mid.individual.net>,
> > Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 14:04:30 -0800, Animal wrote:
> >
> >> > It was getting boiled by the charging system. Lack of firewall
> >> > means the fumes enter the vehicle interior.
> >
> >> My new car has the battery in a compartment in the 'boot' (it's a
> >> hatchback).
> >
> > just like the original Mini
>
> Not quite; at least there the battery was *in* the boot, not
> effectively open to the passenger compartment.
>
> And with the Mini, it was to add weight to the back end; in my case,
> there's no space at the front!
>
>
>

A friend of mine had an early mini, where the starter control was not
in the ignition switch, but was a heavy duty push-button switch in the
floor, directly in the battery cable. he had a new Mini carpet fitted,
but for the later version and it did not have a cutout over the button,
so he placed a draught-piece on the button to raise it a quarter of an
inch, and did not make a hole for it.

Only someone who knew where the old mini starter button was could get
it started. An additional layer of anti-theft protection.

--
Joe

On 14/12/2022 10:21, Bob Eager wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 07:06:56 +0000, alan_m wrote:
>
>> On 12/12/2022 09:02, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>
>>> 50hp/litre is a decent cheap engine that is probably economical. Race
>>> tune it and 100bhp/litre is possible. Strap a turbo on and 100bhp/litre
>>> is a doddle.
>>
>> My petrol 1 litre Ford engine is 125bhp (turbo).
>
> My petrol Ford engine (2 weeks old) is 2.5 litre, 187bhp...
>
>
>
My diesel (Jaguar) engine (14 years old) is 3.0 litre, 270 bhp...

As I said, once you strap a turbo (or two) on, displacement ceases to be
a limiting factor.

--
"I guess a rattlesnake ain't risponsible fer bein' a rattlesnake, but ah
puts mah heel on um jess the same if'n I catches him around mah chillun".

On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 09:26:24 +0000 (GMT)
charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:

> In article <jvsccbFpdc9U10@mid.individual.net>,
> Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> wrote:
> > On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 14:04:30 -0800, Animal wrote:
>
> > > It was getting boiled by the charging system. Lack of firewall
> > > means the fumes enter the vehicle interior.
>
> > My new car has the battery in a compartment in the 'boot' (it's a
> > hatchback).
>
> just like the original Mini
>

You mean a REAL Mini.
--
Davey.

In article <tncdqu$2pnfj$1@dont-email.me>,
Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 09:26:24 +0000 (GMT)
> charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:

> > In article <jvsccbFpdc9U10@mid.individual.net>,
> > Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> wrote:
> > > On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 14:04:30 -0800, Animal wrote:
> >
> > > > It was getting boiled by the charging system. Lack of firewall
> > > > means the fumes enter the vehicle interior.
> >
> > > My new car has the battery in a compartment in the 'boot' (it's a
> > > hatchback).
> >
> > just like the original Mini
> >

> You mean a REAL Mini.

Yes.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England - sent from my RISC OS 4té
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

In article <jvtq6nFpdc9U12@mid.individual.net>,
Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 09:26:24 +0000, charles wrote:

> > In article <jvsccbFpdc9U10@mid.individual.net>,
> > Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 14:04:30 -0800, Animal wrote:
> >
> >> > It was getting boiled by the charging system. Lack of firewall means
> >> > the fumes enter the vehicle interior.
> >
> >> My new car has the battery in a compartment in the 'boot' (it's a
> >> hatchback).
> >
> > just like the original Mini

> Not quite; at least there the battery was *in* the boot, not effectively
> open to the passenger compartment.

It was in the estate car (traveller) variant

> And with the Mini, it was to add weight to the back end; in my case,
> there's no space at the front!

There wasn't any room under the bonney either in a Mini.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England - sent from my RISC OS 4té
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

On 14/12/2022 12:07, charles wrote:
> In article <tncdqu$2pnfj$1@dont-email.me>,
> Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:
>> On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 09:26:24 +0000 (GMT)
>> charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
>
>>> In article <jvsccbFpdc9U10@mid.individual.net>,
>>> Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 14:04:30 -0800, Animal wrote:
>>>
>>>>> It was getting boiled by the charging system. Lack of firewall
>>>>> means the fumes enter the vehicle interior.
>>>
>>>> My new car has the battery in a compartment in the 'boot' (it's a
>>>> hatchback).
>>>
>>> just like the original Mini
>>>
>
>> You mean a REAL Mini.
>
> Yes.

I must get in touch with one of my friends and see where he has got up
to with his Mini - it was produced about 3 months after production
started and was in pretty good nick when I last saw it.

On 08/12/2022 12:52, Tim Lamb wrote:
> Anyone changed a battery on a modern car? Professional mark up looks to
> be about £50.
>
> My VW passat is not liking the current cold weather.
>
> There seem to be several possible gotchas beyond the old lost radio
> code:-(  A U Tube video demonstrated a temporary 12V connection via what
> I took to be the vehicle USB connection.
>
> I was thinking a spare 12V battery temporarily clipped to the battery
> leads...

Halfords claim to do it for £20-£30. I wonder whether they know about
all the complications of codes and resetting?

--
Max Demian

On 15/12/2022 13:09, Max Demian wrote:
> On 08/12/2022 12:52, Tim Lamb wrote:
>> Anyone changed a battery on a modern car? Professional mark up looks
>> to be about £50.
>>
>> My VW passat is not liking the current cold weather.
>>
>> There seem to be several possible gotchas beyond the old lost radio
>> code:-(  A U Tube video demonstrated a temporary 12V connection via
>> what I took to be the vehicle USB connection.
>>
>> I was thinking a spare 12V battery temporarily clipped to the battery
>> leads...
>
> Halfords claim to do it for £20-£30. I wonder whether they know about
> all the complications of codes and resetting?
>
No, but they know how to add a secondary battery before they disconnect
the first :-)

--
Of what good are dead warriors? … Warriors are those who desire battle
more than peace. Those who seek battle despite peace. Those who thump
their spears on the ground and talk of honor. Those who leap high the
battle dance and dream of glory … The good of dead warriors, Mother, is
that they are dead.
Sheri S Tepper: The Awakeners.

In message <tnf6ao$33dkl$1@dont-email.me>, Max Demian
<max_demian@bigfoot.com> writes
>On 08/12/2022 12:52, Tim Lamb wrote:
>> Anyone changed a battery on a modern car? Professional mark up looks
>>to be about £50.
>> My VW passat is not liking the current cold weather.
>> There seem to be several possible gotchas beyond the old lost radio
>>code:-(  A U Tube video demonstrated a temporary 12V connection via
>>what I took to be the vehicle USB connection.
>> I was thinking a spare 12V battery temporarily clipped to the
>>battery leads...
>
>Halfords claim to do it for £20-£30. I wonder whether they know about
>all the complications of codes and resetting?

Job done Max. Like for like battery with clip leads to maintain the
supply. Much upthread discussion about necessity for coding the battery
change.
Clearly a change to a non stop/start type would risk incorrect charging
provision.
I haven't yet checked to see if the car has noticed any change:-)
>

--
Tim Lamb

On 14/12/2022 11:59, Davey wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 09:26:24 +0000 (GMT)
> charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
>
>> In article <jvsccbFpdc9U10@mid.individual.net>,
>> Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 14:04:30 -0800, Animal wrote:
>>
>>>> It was getting boiled by the charging system. Lack of firewall
>>>> means the fumes enter the vehicle interior.
>>
>>> My new car has the battery in a compartment in the 'boot' (it's a
>>> hatchback).
>>
>> just like the original Mini
>>
>
> You mean a REAL Mini.

The ones that killed you in a head-on crash, or threw
you out of the door in a roll-over crash, knocking off
the fuel cap in the process and occasionally turning
it into a giant catherine wheel.

In article <tnfub0$2b4$2@gioia.aioe.org>,
Andrew <Andrew97d-junk@mybtinternet.com> wrote:
> On 14/12/2022 11:59, Davey wrote:
> > On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 09:26:24 +0000 (GMT)
> > charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> In article <jvsccbFpdc9U10@mid.individual.net>,
> >> Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 14:04:30 -0800, Animal wrote:
> >>
> >>>> It was getting boiled by the charging system. Lack of firewall
> >>>> means the fumes enter the vehicle interior.
> >>
> >>> My new car has the battery in a compartment in the 'boot' (it's a
> >>> hatchback).
> >>
> >> just like the original Mini
> >>
> >
> > You mean a REAL Mini.

> The ones that killed you in a head-on crash, or threw
> you out of the door in a roll-over crash, knocking off
> the fuel cap in the process and occasionally turning
> it into a giant catherine wheel.

and won the Monte Carlo Rally

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England - sent from my RISC OS 4té
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

On 15/12/2022 20:53, charles wrote:
> In article <tnfub0$2b4$2@gioia.aioe.org>,
> Andrew <Andrew97d-junk@mybtinternet.com> wrote:
>> On 14/12/2022 11:59, Davey wrote:
>>> On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 09:26:24 +0000 (GMT)
>>> charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <jvsccbFpdc9U10@mid.individual.net>,
>>>> Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 14:04:30 -0800, Animal wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> It was getting boiled by the charging system. Lack of firewall
>>>>>> means the fumes enter the vehicle interior.
>>>>
>>>>> My new car has the battery in a compartment in the 'boot' (it's a
>>>>> hatchback).
>>>>
>>>> just like the original Mini
>>>>
>>>
>>> You mean a REAL Mini.
>
>> The ones that killed you in a head-on crash, or threw
>> you out of the door in a roll-over crash, knocking off
>> the fuel cap in the process and occasionally turning
>> it into a giant catherine wheel.
>
> and won the Monte Carlo Rally
>
With a roll-over cage, wider wheels and tyres and driven
by professional drivers too.

On Thursday, 15 December 2022 at 19:59:31 UTC, Andrew wrote:
> On 14/12/2022 11:59, Davey wrote:
> > On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 09:26:24 +0000 (GMT)
> > charles <cha...@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> In article <jvsccbF...@mid.individual.net>,
> >> Bob Eager <news...@eager.cx> wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 14:04:30 -0800, Animal wrote:
> >>
> >>>> It was getting boiled by the charging system. Lack of firewall
> >>>> means the fumes enter the vehicle interior.
> >>
> >>> My new car has the battery in a compartment in the 'boot' (it's a
> >>> hatchback).
> >>
> >> just like the original Mini
> >>
> >
> > You mean a REAL Mini.
> The ones that killed you in a head-on crash, or threw
> you out of the door in a roll-over crash, knocking off
> the fuel cap in the process and occasionally turning
> it into a giant catherine wheel.

It was from the 1950s, what do you expect. The crash footage of a belair vs a modern chevy was shocking. Not a question of whether the driver survived, but whether the rear seat occupants survived. Front seaters had no chance.

On 15/12/2022 20:53, charles wrote:
> In article <tnfub0$2b4$2@gioia.aioe.org>,
> Andrew <Andrew97d-junk@mybtinternet.com> wrote:
>> On 14/12/2022 11:59, Davey wrote:
>>> On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 09:26:24 +0000 (GMT)
>>> charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <jvsccbFpdc9U10@mid.individual.net>,
>>>> Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 14:04:30 -0800, Animal wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> It was getting boiled by the charging system. Lack of firewall
>>>>>> means the fumes enter the vehicle interior.
>>>>
>>>>> My new car has the battery in a compartment in the 'boot' (it's a
>>>>> hatchback).
>>>>
>>>> just like the original Mini
>>>>
>>>
>>> You mean a REAL Mini.
>
>> The ones that killed you in a head-on crash, or threw
>> you out of the door in a roll-over crash, knocking off
>> the fuel cap in the process and occasionally turning
>> it into a giant catherine wheel.
>
> and won the Monte Carlo Rally
>

I remember seeing one drive into a concrete wall at Kyalami race track.
At around 100mph. Ok there were a couple of tyres in the way. It leapt
about 8 feet in the air, settled down with a crash, and everything went
quiet. Then the driver got out and threw his gloves at it in disgust.
Full roll cage and race harness....

--
Any fool can believe in principles - and most of them do!

> Fark. good reason to avoid frog cars.

One of many